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    Rumor: New Color Palm Picture?Posted By: Ed on Thursday, January 25, 2001 6:38:53 PM
It is labeled the "m505", which fits in with Palm's new naming scheme. It has separate up and down scroll buttons, not a rocker switch like the current V models but the m100 has separate ones, too. The screen shot shows an app called Card Info, which is presumably for the SD card port. An interesting question whether this device, if real, will be able to use peripherals designed for the V series, like the Stowaway keyboard. It seems to have approximately the same form factor. Palm's CEO Carl Yankowski announced back in September that a smaller, lighter Palm V, with color and black and white versions and an SD slot was on the drawing board. In October, Palm's European head, Markus Bregler, said the new device will be shown off at CeBit, held in Hanover in late March. It will ship at the same time. Special thanks to Raishe for bringing the PalmStation story to our attention.
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 RE: Seems Pretty Convincing
I'm a proud owner of the old but proven Palm V and I love it to death. Slap some more megs in, a removable storage/expansion slot and some color, and I'd be happy to replace my own.
As for the picture, it looks convicning to me as well. Let's just hope! Eric RE: Seems Pretty ConvincingI.M. Anonymous @ 1/25/2001 9:40:22 PM #
Unfortunately, I do this for a living on TV commercials and features. The shadow along the top edge of the screen is too perfect and does not blend the way it should. I would love it if this was real as I have a large investment in Palm V accesories, but I' pretty sure this is not a real picture. The buttons look real and might very well be from the real thing, but I believe that the screen is not.
JWR RE: Seems Pretty Convincing
I agree this picture is almost certainly a mockup with the screenshot pasted in. However, the question is, was it created by Palm or by some bored Palm fan?
Just because the image isn't an actual picture, doesn't mean it isn't a real representation of an upcoming model. For example, if you look on Palm's site, you'll see that most of the pictures of Palm models are mockups. These let marketing types show an idealized view of the product. Still, I'm not saying it is and I'm not saying it isn't. I'm solidly non-committal. At the very least, it is probably close to what it will look like. RE: Seems Pretty Convincing
it could either have come from a very artistic palm enthusiast or from Palm itself. It must be trying to see how the public would react to this color palm v.
well, here's my reaction: i'm willing to buy it the day it reaches the shops. i'm very happy with my palm vx and i believe this m505 is more than worthy of being my next most significant investment. i hope they release it soon. :) RE: Seems Pretty Convincing
This has a feel of authenticity, but there is one thing that bothers me, the numbering scheme. It would seem to me that this would make more sense called the c505 rahter than the m505, whereas 'c' is for the color models and 'm' is for the monochrome models.... What does everyone else think?
By the way, the recessed buttons look like they take into consideration the accidental activation of the Palm V design that way too many of us are familiar with. We can only hope it's true (and may the screen will use OLED technology (http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/specialProducts/OEL/overview.shtml)!! RE: Seems Pretty Convincing
Oh... one other thing I just noticed... the graffiti area is the same color scheme (inverted white logos and boxes on slate grey) as on the Palm IIIc, a color device. Somebody was really paying attention to detail in mocking this up or this is the real thing....
What about this stuffs?I.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2001 4:59:28 AM #
Please tell me will it work with the m505?
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/article/20010111/sd01.jpg and http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/pc/docs/article/20010111/sd02.jpg RE: Seems Pretty Convincing
One more thing. Did you notice that the fourth button is now default to Note Pad, which I believe is different from Memo Pad. By the looks of the icon, I think it supports sketches.
Reading all these makes me all the more excited. Can anybody from Palm please say something?!? Another thing. I saw the SD add-ons. Wow! RE: Seems Pretty Convincing
Speaking of the SD add-ons, take another look at the clear empty case that Palm displayed at the CES earlier this month: http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/sd2_lg.jpg
I can't tell if the shape is exactly the same as the leaked m505 image. It seems a bit off but it is hard to tell because they are at such different angles. To answer a previous question, yes, this device is supposed to work with that full array of SD add-ons. RE: Seems Pretty Convincing
On the OLED statement by Rusty . . . doesn't Palm have an agreement with Kodak?
RE: Seems Pretty ConvincingI.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2001 10:45:10 AM #
Nobody has this much time to waste making a mockup just for fun. JBH
RE: Seems Pretty Convincing
The Register seems pretty convinced, too:
If it is a fake, we reckon it's simply a mix between a new, monochrome m505 and another new colour PDA - in short the screen and shell pics are genuine, they just don't go together. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/16387.html --- Plenipotentiary Palm Infocenter RE: Seems Pretty ConvincingI.M. Anonymous @ 1/28/2001 3:36:35 PM #
If this picture is real, then Xmas has come early this year! The great thing about Palm is that these guys don't rest on their laurels for long. A slim color palm would be a dream come true for many of us. I just hope it comes with a change of shorts!
 Palm M505 is seen at Taiwan...
This a guy at Taiwain says:
"Just saw some people took strange strange Palm V buy case, was very careful does not want to let the person see, meow one, possibly was Palm gives the development merchant the test machine. Sees has the expansion trough, possibly is the sd expansion trough, the outlook a little likes m 100 with palmv combie, about the key 100 same with m, is not too attractive, above also same, is the circular arc, is not even, the transmission attachment has plastic protector, possibly may compatible palmv, side two equally have inserts the pen the slot, the thickness approximately in 12 mm, but resembles is not the metal outer covering, resembles is plastic tests the paint, not too determines, bought palmv case, was allowed to use, was not palm vc, the screen is black and white, behind fell the part was quite deep. Above the opinion, purely is carelessly sees. But is real!" RE: Palm M505 is seen at Taiwan...I.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2001 9:43:54 AM #
another RUMOR:
the M500 is the grayscale model with SD slot m505 is the color one BUT without SD support RE: Palm M505 is seen at Taiwan...I.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2001 10:29:49 AM #
if sd is one of main features of the next generation of palms, then it would make no sense why they would not include it on every model. it's like handspring making a model without a springboard slot.
Anyone remember the leaked pic of the Prism?I.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2001 10:50:37 AM #
We all had this conversation in late September or early October when a pic of the Prism was leaked. Everyone thought it was a fake and it turned out to be the real thing.
I am sure that the screen is a mockup. The device is in all likelyhood the read deal. We will know soon enough. Palm usually introduces new models in February. RE: Anyone remember the leaked pic of the Prism?
Happens every year and it's always fun. Like Christmas in Feburary. And I just talked myself into trading up my Vx for a Prism. Now I have to wonder though...
RE: Anyone remember the leaked pic of the Prism?I.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2001 11:55:06 AM #
I have a Prism and it's great. From what I've read about the new color Palm, there aren't too many improvememnts over what the Prism offers right now. And some of the improvements that OS4 promises won't be ready when the new unit is launched.
I have no doubt that it will be a huge seller. They just won't be getting my $500 anytime soon. I've already sunk enough money into HS peripherials to stick with it for the time being.
Well La Dee Freakin' Daa!
Wow, it's stunning. Its design is suave and sophisticated. It has a groovy drop-shadow.
It's a shame it's going to be mind-blowingly expensive. What do you think- five, maybe six hard-earned U.S. Ben Franklins? Probably. Maybe you'll catch one on sale for $479.99. But I doubt it. You've got a better chance of stumbling upon the elusive iPaq H3650 at Walmart. If it's anything like the Palm V,Vx, IIIc (though almost affordable now), and the oh-so-pricey Visor Prism. No thanks. Functionally overpriced-- the addtional price of color is not worth the base set of functionality. Nor is the slightly slimmed down design of the V series. Don't get me wrong-- I'd love to have one-- if it was US$300 or less. Especially if you're going to have to add the SD add-ons-- what will they cost? If the pricing model is anything like SpringBoard modules, well, we are going to start to see some significant loss of marketshare of PalmOS to the PocketPC. Having to spend and extra wad of cash for an MP3 add-on-- why do it if it's already built in? And who is the marketing genious behind some of the finer Palm add-ons-- a MIDI player that plugs into the Palm? There's a frustrating waste of silicon. IIIxe, TRGPro, and for the entry-level kiddies, the m100- those are still the best deals going for PalmOS- a ton of bang for the buck-- and will be for some time until the color units become more reasonably priced. RE: Well La Dee Freakin' Daa!I.M. Anonymous @ 6/13/2001 3:28:27 PM #
Hey --- Functionality overpriced?? No.
32Mb, where can you find a palm with over 8? And hey, eBay has factory sealed ones selling at ~$400 - with PCMCIA Capabilities. And with a Sony TFT color screen, one of the best, you cant go wrong. A built in mic, stereo out, (Surprisingly loud), ambient light sensor, a great 5 way joystick, and real 3D gaming, how could you possibly buy a 4-color palm with beeps as it's highest potential? -Dan ( x@maine.rr.com )
heres my question.
mind you, im just going by what this little picture looks like, but what is it going to do that my palm iii wont do? mp3 add-ons via the SD slot? i can buy a standalone mp3 player for the amount theyd probably charge. sure it probably has more memory and a color screen, but wheres the INNOVATION that put palm where they are today?
RE: heres my question.I.M. Anonymous @ 2/14/2001 4:57:41 PM #
HI!
You find it (INNOVATION!!) in HS platforms...
Serial PortI.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2001 4:15:14 PM #
The question is, will Palm once again screw us and change the serial port so that we have to
buy all new accessories!?!!? I'd probably fork over the cash if it was compatable with my OmniSky Minstrel, and had a faster CPU. The other question is, how long before the SD accessories appear? The Spingboards didn't RE: Serial Killer
Palm announced recently that all future Palms would have a standard shaped serial connector so they could share some peripherals. However, they didn't say it would be the connector used by any current model so the upcoming one may be the first out with it.
Having to buy all new peripherals every time we upgrade is ridiculous but the nightmare may be drawing to a close. And not too soon for me. I hope someone makes an adapter so I can use my III series stuff on the new model. RE: Universal Base Connector
Oh dear, someone just reminded me that while Palm announced at PalmSource that they would begin using a uniform base connector so all future models will be able to use the same cradles, cables, and external hardware modules., they also mentioned that there would be one more model coming out that doesn't use it. The m500/505 could be it.
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Its OfficialRaishe_werk @ 1/26/2001 5:36:31 PM #
ok ppl,
its the real deal. just for those non-believers check this ( http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2679114,00.html ) anyway just saw this on ZD net. alot more details are coming to the surface. expansion slots? ohyeah baby. i am a believer again werd up. thanks to Ed and Hal-J for breaking and posting the story. ok maybe zdnet is not the most reliable, but it is more reliable than "I.M Anonymous" or otherwise sources
RE: Its OfficialI.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2001 6:26:07 PM #
According to the article, at $635 list, the M505 is at a higher price point than the elusive iPAQ AND the Jornada! There has to be some value-add somewhere.
RE: Its Official
m505
8 meg RAM, 4 megs ROM, 33 mhz CPU, and Secure Digital expansion slot ans usb conectivity. RE: Its OfficialI.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2001 6:41:10 PM #
The price that ZDNet listed is in Francs! It comes out to about $90 USD. I wish that was actually the price though :) We'll just have to wait and see!
RE: Its OfficialI.M. Anonymous @ 1/27/2001 4:19:06 PM #
(DoliMan here, just created account but cannot login from Netscape (am i becoming instinct?))
Anyways, I just wanted to quote from ZDNet's news: "According to sources close to the company, ".. Sources close to the company.. that can be anyone I guess..
Palm VC/m505 PriceI.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2001 5:43:08 PM #
For what its worth, I just got back from Staple and they told me the new Palm Color is going to be 549.00 But it was not in the system yet so it could not be pre ordered
RE: Palm VC/m505 PriceI.M. Anonymous @ 3/16/2001 4:19:37 AM #
I'd love to know how this Staples employee could get a price on an item that is not yet in their system. I too work for Staples and have not heard a word on the new Palm. Believe me, I have been looking! If it's not in our system, then he was only guessing. There is no way he could know what the price will be.
Holy Hell! WOOHOOI.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2001 6:51:02 PM #
As much as i doubt myself, i believe this picture is real, just look at it, the thought that went into it. Would somehting trying to fake one take so much effort into it? I mean, if the person faking it has incorperated all these "real" elements, then i think he should be working for palm rite now. As for me, i'm going to the store to line up rite now! BYE!
btw: This pic is my background right now! *drool* RE: Holy Hell! WOOHOOI.M. Anonymous @ 2/14/2001 5:08:14 PM #
I've tried and it toke me three (3) minutes. Well that's life! Kuky RE: Holy Hell! WOOHOOI.M. Anonymous @ 3/21/2001 10:42:41 PM #
Everyone who dismissed this picture as a fake and an obvious forgery, I hope you have a bit more faith in the Palm Rumor Mill now. :-)
The elusive M505I.M. Anonymous @ 1/26/2001 10:05:25 PM #
When you weigh price against functionality it just doesn’t seem worth it. I owned a palm V, the longer I used it the more I kept trying to force it to do things that the pocket PC does out of the box. Several months later I started getting tired of having to fork out additional $$$ for add on software that would increase it's functionality. I picked up a Compaq i paq last week and love I love it! It has everything you need right out of the box! Palm Pilots are nothing more than an overpriced organizer.
RE: The elusive M505I.M. Anonymous @ 1/27/2001 5:28:56 AM #
I have a Palm V, Handspring Prism, and Compaq iPaq 3650
The iPaq is headed for ebay this weekend and I will keep the money from its sale until they release the Palm M505. I have been waiting forever for this. I finally could not resist temptation and bought the Prism from Amazon on 12-31-00 the last day of the $50 off code. I had another $15 code so the Prism only cost me $384. I'll pay $549 for a M505 in a heartbeat. The pic looks pretty legit. Please release it sooner than later. All you excellent detectives out there keep the info flowing.
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I've already decided that my next Palm is going to be the color V replacement, whether this is a picture of it or not. My IIIx is getting a bit long in the tooth.
Just as a side note, I'd be willing to bet that the m500 is going to be the grayscale version of this.
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