Rumor: Pictures of the Palm m125

Joel from PDA Geek has been sent pictures of the m125 and has now posted them online.

As was revealed here first, last week, the m125 will have a 33 MHz Dragonball VZ processor and 8 MB of RAM and non-upgradeable ROM. It will have an SD expansion slot and use Palm's Universal Connector. The m125 will cost $250 and should be available near August 24.

It will be 4.7 by 3.1 by .7 inches and weigh 6.1 oz. It comes with a USB cradle and runs off AAA batteries.

Update: Steve-O, the original source for the leaked m125 info, has confirmed that this is definitely a picture of the m125.

Thanks to Joel from PDA Geek who pointed this out. -Ed

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Looks Cool

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 6:18:02 PM #
I like the design, I also like the 33mhz processor but the screen is still too small.

Its a piece

randomguy1900 @ 8/14/2001 6:21:34 PM #
The sony is a much beter unit..then this piece

RE: Its a piece
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 9:05:27 PM #
Clie 320 offers the same and more for only $199. Now any "sane" person would get the Sony.

RE: Its a piece
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 10:24:05 PM #
Except Mac users. Can't use the Sony but it is better.

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 10:28:52 PM #
There is an option for Mac users from Mark/Sapce. But any business user who is still on Windows NT is high and dry.

RE: Its a piece
rldunn @ 8/15/2001 12:48:06 PM #
Not if you get the serial cradle.

This is a Palm III with SD, 8MB, and a smaller screen.

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 6:22:02 PM #
So this is where all of the R&D money is going???

RE: This is a Palm III with SD, 8MB, and a smaller screen.
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 6:39:42 PM #
I agree with you, you would think that at least they can add a virtual soft graffiti area like the handera.

RE: This is a Palm III with SD, 8MB, and a smaller screen.
AriB @ 8/14/2001 10:59:43 PM #
no it's going into PalmOS 5

Just saw S320 last weekend...

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 6:35:12 PM #
pretty amazed by the design, the screen and the weight. At $199, I think we already got a winner!!!

doctored photo

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 6:41:43 PM #
It's the same m125 picture shown three times. Pictures 2 and 3 just have pictures of the expansion card spliced in... spliced in BACKWARDS I might add.

RE: doctored photo
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 7:40:32 PM #
Actually, the expansion card is not backwards. That's the way it is supposed to be. The m50x is backwards.

Look at the SD spec (or WinCE machines, or the HandEra 330): the 50x is backwards, the 125 appears to be correct.

RE: doctored photo
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 11:22:18 PM #
Yeah, your right. Also, the Palm "m125" dosen't cast a shadow. The cards do. In a real photo, they both would cast a shadow.

Apparently you can't fool all of the people all of the time. But you can fool some of the people, again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again... and again...

RE: doctored photo
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 11:29:54 PM #
I think it has been doctored by Palm's marketing goons. They are going to need lots of pictures of the M125 for ads etc and this looks like what they'd make.

I think Palm InfoCenter is wrong and the M125 will be out on Monday.

RE: doctored photo
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 11:38:12 PM #
The m125 had better come out soon if they want back-to-school sales. They've already missed out on some.

this photo is soooooooooooo fake
uvdude @ 8/15/2001 4:49:54 AM #
just look at it

this is such an amateur job on faking a "new" palm

look closely at it and you'll see what im talking about

and another thing: if this palm keeps the design of the m100 series like it looks then the SD has no way of fitting in that position

RE: doctored photo
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/15/2001 10:38:54 AM #
I've heard that the M125 won't be out for about another month or so.

The card *is* backward, duh
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/15/2001 10:59:47 AM #
When you put a card in in the back of a Palm, the front of the card faces you. Here the front of the card is facing you when you are looking from the front. So it is backward in the picture. If anyone tries to put a card in this way it will get jammed and might even destroy the latching mechanism inside when you pry it back out again.

Thus I don't think it's a marketing photo from Palm. Probably a fan boy pasting cards into a photo they already had. At least I *hope* it's not direct from Palm, because if this is how they instruct people to use it they'll just have another lawsuit on their hands because of a bunch of broken expansion slots and cards.

Is there a back picture available on this unit?

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 6:44:53 PM #
How in the world is the universal connector going to fit. The bottom of this new model is rounder than the m500 series.

RE: Is there a back picture available on this unit?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 7:15:55 PM #
If this in fact the M125 (because the Photoshop job on the cards takes away some credence), it could still fit in the cradle. (1) We don't know what the back looks like. (2) Remember that the M50x does not fit flush in the cradle either. The Universal Connector itself holds the device in place, not the cradle.

RE: cradle
Cheetah @ 8/14/2001 9:40:28 PM #
The new cradle has always bothered me. Seems like the unit should be flush with the cradle. The first time I got my 505 I tried to force it down before I realized it was already in the cradle correctly.
RE: Is there a back picture available on this unit?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/15/2001 10:05:47 AM #
my 125 fits in my 505's cradle with no problem. they are actually shipping a 505 cradle with the 125 and simply not including the power adaptor.

RE: ipaq
twizza @ 8/14/2001 7:05:12 PM #
that is what i thought when i first looked at it. and personally that aint a bad thing in palm's case. that pic has also confirmed that this nay be my second pda. simply on the basis od sd/mmc. mem stick is nice. but i deal with mmc more than anything.

RE: ipaq
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 7:35:56 PM #
I like the dual color look. I think it looks better than all the other m10x models before. Still a little too pricey at 250 bucks..seeing how this cant be flashed upgraded and OS 5.0 comming out with in the next year or so..(who knows). Still the fact knowing that this will be a disposable unit once a newer upgrade to the OS comes out. Maybe at 150 bucks may be better and in the Student range. The SD slot is a nice touch on the side as well. Screen still feels too small too.

RE: ipaq
Cheetah @ 8/14/2001 9:42:12 PM #
Looks like an iPaq alittle, except for the fact that it's only half the size and weight, and INCLUDES an expansion slot built in.

Comments on the m125...

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 8:12:36 PM #
Thumbs up...
- nice design, it looks great!
- small and compact, looks durable.
- expandability is a plus

Thumbs down...
- these introductory palms should be priced between $150-$200. To pricy for these lower end model. I could buy Vx for less...
- please do not make anymore monochrome without high resolution screen...

Palm Developers, if you're listening, please all screens should be high resolutions. I refuse to by anymore PDA's without high resolutions, color or monochrome. I own m505 and I am satisfied with the screen, but I am envious of Clie's screen. IMHO!

Sam ;)

RE: Comments on the m125...
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 8:23:12 PM #
Oops... "buy" instead of "by"... ;)

i dont find it cool.

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 8:19:40 PM #

it seems to have the same design like m100 and
has 2 colors like silver and black. i think it
s better to have only one color. silver would
be better. coz its trend over the world for
electronical gadget to have silver color.

2 colors makes me think of m125 as only for
a jogger or something, not for people with
former suite. it doesnt really match well.

Seong-uk Kim

Where's the backlash?

I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 8:47:36 PM #
OK, you people baffle me...

When Handera came out with the 330, in SILVER, with a MONOCHROME screen, people all over this site slammed them mercilessly.

This unit is primarily SILVER, has a MONOCHROME screen (and a smaller one at that), and doesn't offer nearly the enhancements that the 330 does. It may be smaller, but it's also heavier.

It's a piece of junk. Why hasn't anyone else said so?

RE: Where's the backlash?
JeepBastard @ 8/14/2001 9:16:29 PM #
its a step backward....

drab screen. small screen. waste of space for home buttons (this is precious screen real estate)

No wireless. No proof of SD usage. (which i perfer to the memory stick, but how will people have a standard? SD? mem stick? Springboard?)

It's not a pretty site. Palm goes under.


RE: Where's the backlash?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 9:29:41 PM #
The backlash against the HandEra was based on two things.

First, it was supposed to be a flagship product, so monochrome, big, non-rechargable batteries, etc. are not acceptable. The m125 is a midrange product.

Second, The m125 is a nice looking design. The nicest thing that can be said for the HandEra is that it is unique. To be more honest, the HandEra is the ugliest PDA that I have ever seen. A lot of designs look better as they become more familiar. The HandEra looks worse every time that I see it.

RE: Where's the backlash?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/15/2001 1:39:38 AM #
The answer is simple...

Most of the Palm enthusiast became so numb wth the disappointment of the m500 and m505, that this lastest Palm offering could not stimulate any response.

Kinda mean, and it's kinda sad, but just look at the amount of excitement and anticapation this latest Palm model offering generated as compared to the excitement of past models.

RE: Where's the backlash?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/15/2001 9:08:33 AM #
Will all you Sony goons finally be quiet after sales numbers for June or July come out and Palm is still the best seller? Sony makes a good PDA but they haven't marketeted it will, if at all. I asked about the CLIE at my local Circuit City and they showed me the 300 they still had on their shelves. I thought those had all been sent back. No one had heard of the 710 or 610. They had several m505s and said they were selling good.

Sony fans?
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/15/2001 9:45:35 AM #
Well said. Sony fans, have you looked at your advertisements? They are really ugly! The one with the music playing feature emphasised make the screen look like it has 4 colors! The only other add says that you should buy a Clie to watch movies on airplane flights...... Right...... Even the m505 wouldn't sell as well as it has with those ads. Sorry Clie users, even with the innovative features, nobody's buying them except for the 10 or so cult users we have here starting flame wars. Until you have better sales, it's hard to bash the m125, (which will outsell the Clie S320 at least 5 to 1, if not more).

Palm will announce very poor quarterly sales in a few weeks
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/16/2001 12:14:21 AM #
You obviously don't have access to the latest PDA sales figures. When the numbers are formally released in a few weeks, the bell will toll for Palm.

Sony's new PDAs are flying off the shelves and show no signs of slowing down. Palm, on the other hand has released a series of poorly-regarded models that simply rehash old designs and sell for bloated prices.

RE: Where's the backlash? DREAM ON
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/16/2001 12:17:55 AM #
There will be little backlash for a few reasons:

- The m125 is actually a fairly nicely styled PDA. Those of us who have used it feel it will do well. It could have become a massive hit if the Clie S320 wasn't around. Palm needs to drop the price to match the Clie.

- The Handera 330 has an ugly case. You might like it, but most people don't. And most people don't want to carry a PDA that they think looks ugly - "coolness" is still a major factor in the choice of handhelds. (Makes me wonder why Handera didn't just stick with a conservative black case. Shouldn't have listered to Jimmy, the intern's suggestion that they "jazz up" their image.)

- The m125 is a lower-end model. Expectations aren't unrealistic.

- The Handera 330 is targeted mainly at professionals and power users, who tend to dislike gaudy designs.


tritan @ 8/14/2001 9:21:02 PM #
Will there be face plates to change with this unit?

RE: M125
I.M. Anonymous @ 8/15/2001 1:45:07 AM #
i think it can use the M100's faceplates. just a guess.


I.M. Anonymous @ 8/14/2001 10:18:07 PM #
Ed or Ryan, what happened? Are you there?

RE: Ed?
phs @ 8/14/2001 10:33:38 PM #
gosh darn police line you better not cross

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