Palm TX Dissection Photo Gallery

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His behaviour is truly shocking (no doubt later he'll blame it on him being under "stress") and Kirvin has revealed himself to be a true nutcase. I doubt there will be ANY Palmapologists left that are willing to defend Kirvin's latest psychotic break...

TVoR

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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
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The Palm eCONomy = Communism™

The Great Palm Swindle: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=7864#108038

NetFrontLinux - the next major cellphone OS?: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=8060#111823

I thought it was identical to the LD and that they both had the same quality (color saturation, etc. or whatever the correct buzzwords are) as the TE2.

NetFrontLinux - the next major cellphone OS?: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=8060#111823

One word: Haloperidol.

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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
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The Palm eCONomy = Communism™

The Great Palm Swindle: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=7864#108038

NetFrontLinux - the next major cellphone OS?: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=8060#111823

Today, 12:14 PM #47
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I fall in to the catagory of people that really did not like the way Kirvin does podcasts. He contradicts himself week to week and acts like a child when people disagree with him. His rants went from cute in the beginning to stomach turning over the last few months. I for one am happy Alan is taking over.

I just had to take a break from the Kirvin butt kissing to tell the truth many people probably are thinking but wont post. A break even for a month will be great. I might actually get through a few podcasts now.
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Most folks would consider being sick of slanderous attacks as a good reason to get out of something.

You two are pathetic.

"Many men stumble across the truth, but most manage to pick themselves up
and continue as if nothing had happened."
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Surur

Voice of Dumbness: the link you posted doesn't work. Not only are you a nasty little whiney person, but you're also incompetant. :)

I'd feel bad for poor Mr. Kirving if he really has lost his job. Not because I've ever listened to a podcast -- I've got better things to do with my time than listen to tech pundits on a frickin' *ipod*.

Rather, I'd feel bad because if he pisses you off, he's probably a pretty cool guy. :)

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"People who like M$ products tend to be insecure crowd-following newbies lacking in experience and imagination."

> "...You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:..."

Voice of Dumbness: the link you posted doesn't work. Not only are you a nasty little whiney person, but you're also incompetant. :)

Hey, Dr. Dumbass,

the link does work; you have to log in to view the forums, dip****. Oh, and by the way, when labelling someone as incompetent, it helps to spell "incompetent" correctly...

Kirvin is a creep, and the karmic circle closed right on his little head. I won't lose any sleep over it.

Don't waste my time posting links to resources I'm going to have to *register* to look at. Cripes-on-a-bike! For the 99.999% of humanity that don't have a password for joe-random-palm-site the link doesn't work. Deal with it. :)

> "...it helps to spell "incompetent" correctly..."

Not important with Voice of Dumbness. :)

(1) He's pretty slow, and doesn't notice my horrific spelling and grammar,

(2) I'm sure as hell not going to waste another second of my life on him by going back and double checking. :)

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"People who like M$ products tend to be insecure crowd-following newbies lacking in experience and imagination."

Kirvin is a creep, and the karmic circle closed right on his little head. I won't lose any sleep over it.

Odds are Kirvin just got fired and is having difficulties dealing with it, ergo the oh-so-public psychotic break.

He should simply have gone quietly into the night. Instead, Kirvin's silly ego mandated that he grandstand for a few days, threatening that he would take his ball and go home. No doubt he was hoping to hear a few fanboys tell him how "wonderful" they think he is and then BEG him to stay. Now Dr Opinion/Jeff Kirvin shows up here and takes a few cowardly shots at me. How sad.

Get help, Jeff. Please. For your sake.

TVoR

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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
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The Palm eCONomy = Communism™

The Great Palm Swindle: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=7864#108038

NetFrontLinux - the next major cellphone OS?: http://www.palminfocenter.com/comment_view.asp?ID=8060#111823

The vibrating alarm seems much more useful. How many times do you take your Palm out of your pocked only to see that you missed a meeting?

Palm OS needs a 300+MHz processor because it's mostly emulating the code for the old 20MHz processor. But there's not much software to make use of the new ARM CPUs since we're still stuck on Garnet. It's just a useless "feature". If only Palm had let developers just re-compile the same programs to run on the new CPUs, we'd be making some use of all those MHz by now. The approach worked for Apple twice (68000 to PowerPC, now PowerPC to Intel).

BTW, in the UK, Alf Garnett was a 1970s sitcom character. A rude, racist, grouchy old man. In the watered-down US version he's called Archie Bunker. So just think of Palm OS Garnet as Palm OS Archie Bunker.

HOWEVER - 20 years ago I had a pager that came with a vibrating alarm (nice strong one!). Palm belatedly put one into the Palm V about 7 (?) years ago. That model had vibration but no mp3 functionality, but they still sold a few of them. They were pitched toward Enterprise and yuppies, and you can bet the vibrating alarms weren't put in there just for cheap jollies.

For people who actually use PDAs for business and/or have some respect for the people sitting next to them on the bus or in the theatre, a vibrating alarm is as essential to a PDA as a viewing screen. My point was - where is Palm's head when they create "PDAs" that can't properly function as a basic PDA, but seem to be targeted only to grab away business from SONY's PSP. Hint to Palm: ain't gonna happen.

If people want a PSP they can probably find SOME place that carries them. A PDA should be FIRST a PDA, THEN you can start adding candy to widen your audience. Start removing Vibrating Alarms, Hardware Buttons, Memory, etc. and REPLACE it with the whiz-bang stuff and you are lost...
Putting in WiFi/Bluetooth and removing vibrating alarms in a PDA is like filling up on dessert and then realizing you have no room for dinner. If vibrating alarms are "the kitchen sink" to you, then you probably should be buying a PSP instead of a PDA.

1 - How and why Palm was able to fit a vibrating alarm into the m505 four years ago but is unable to fit it into the physically larger Tx.

2 - How and why a basic, US$55 mobile phone comes with a vibrating alarm (a new Nokia 1100 contract free) yet the much larger and sophisticated $299 Tx is unable to offer such a feature.

Yes, you can set an alarm on the Nokia 1100 and it will vibrate at a given time or for a given reminder at a particular time - just like most PDAs with the exception of the Tx.

So again, why does a $55 phone have a vibrating alert for appointments but the $299 PDA doesn't?

"What counts is not necessarily the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog" - Dwight D. Eisenhower

Also, someone gave me a novelty voice memo recording keychain as a gag gift last year. It couldn't have cost more than $10 from Wal-Mart etc. It held at least a few minutes' worth of scratchy audio memos that didn't sound too terribly much worse than my T3 used to.

Why does Palm continue to skimp on the crucial features mentioned above?

Answer: G*R*E*E*D & A*R*R*O*G*A*N*C*E
(with a dash of l*a*z*i*n*e*s*s* and c*h*e*a*p*n*e*s*s thrown in for good measure)

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX

I think it's Zen thing: if you really needed to be vibrated the appointment probably wasn't worth going to anyway.

Ya know, if they hadn't got rid of the screen whine you guys all complained about you might feel the vibration from that when your TX came out of sleep mode for an alarm. Didn't think about that, did you?

David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com
Software Everywhere blog
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-Improved CDMA Bluetooth DUN support (since many execs use Verizon & Sprint phones)
-Charging LED (Palm V & m500s had this)
-Slightly better battery life (a Palm V & m500 hallmark)
-A voice recorder (m500 series had this)
-Metal case (Palm V & m500 series had this)
They'd sell SCORES of units and have the first PDA since the N760C Sony with compelling specs in a decently slim formfactor.

Basically, the PDA equivalent of the RAZR. With build quality up to par, people would actually consider paying a PREMIUM for a device liks this--yes, even today with the subnotebook/smartphone/iPod competition. A solid basic design could last 2+ years with tweaks to case color and internal improvements to the screen, CPU, OS etc.

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX

Wull heck, if you don't care about the color screen don't stop there... make it a Visor Edge with those specs! You could pop in a Sprint DigitalLink for those times when you aren't around a WiFi hotspot. Even place a call, in a pinch.

David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com
Software Everywhere blog
www.pikesoft.com/blog

And the Palm is still THE paradigm of a sleek, thin, ultra-pocketable executive "status" PDA. Palm's slowly eroding marketshare is certainly somehow tied to their increasingly unstylish, bland, and chunky PDAs

The ONLY reason the RAZR has been the hottest cell phone for over a year now is because of its SIZE, looks, build quality and (to a far lesser degree) good RF performance.

Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX

Thanks for proving yourself wrong and showing everyone here just how out of touch you are.

The Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet costs £105K (that's about $185K ) and comes with "a retractable cup holder with space for two drinks containers" (Thank you, Porsche UK).

So again, why does a $55 phone have vibrating alarm whilst a $299 PDA doesn't? There's definitely space for it there when you look at the dissection.

To borrow your car theme, it's like getting reverse gear on the $15K Chevy Chase but no reverse gear on the $70K Porsche.

Sounds like you've been taken for a ride Rome if you dropped $70K on a Porsche yet didn't get the cupholder you were entitled to. Now that would make Porsche look mean!

That's how Palm looks when it asks $300 for a PDA but doesn't bother to put a vibrating alert into it.

"What counts is not necessarily the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog" - Dwight D. Eisenhower

The thing is when you're at a board meeting/cinema/theatre/funeral/interview/studio not everyone around you wants or needs to hear those infamous Palm "bleeps" reminding you abouting needing to be somewhere else in a couple of hour's time.

If you need to switch off sound because you're in a sound sensitive area and your PDA doesn't have vibrating alert, then how do you know when to go to your meeting?

No doubt at this rate, David would endorse Palm getting rid of the Calendar/Date Book app altogether in order to improve the "Zen of Palm".

He'd argue: "You'd remember all the important appointments, all the other ones probably won't be worth going to anyway, so what's the point of having a Calendar app and button on the Palm?"

"What counts is not necessarily the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog" - Dwight D. Eisenhower

Well if it did then Palm must've forgotten to build it into my m505 when I bought it in 2001. To add insult to injury the Palm Desktop installer added the Voice Memo app onto my Desktop!

"What counts is not necessarily the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog" - Dwight D. Eisenhower