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Palm Announces New Heads of Developer Relations

Ben and DionYou could knock us over with a feather: Palm has announced two new high-level hires, and they're not Apple Inc alumni! Via the Developer Network Blog, SVP of Marketing Katie Mitic has named Dion Almaer and Ben Galbraith of Mozilla Bespin and Ajaxian fame as the new showrunners for Developer Relations. Both men have written separately about the news on their personal blogs, with an obvious enthusiasm for web technologies and openness that should prove refreshing to developers on that other smartphone platform.

Read on for some fun quotes...

Palm SVP of Marketing, Katie Mitic:

Now that our exciting Web-based platform, Palm webOS, is ready for developers, the time was right to ramp up our Developer Relations team, to ensure the best possible developer experience. When we sat down to think about the type of person that needed to lead this team, two things were clear: we needed real developers at the helm, and they needed to be developers with a deep understanding of the Web environment.
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When I first met them, I instantly appreciated the passion that they had for the Web, and their desire to do great things to engage and excite developers. I expect them to think big and work diligently to make Palm webOS a platform you love to be a part of, and also one that helps you grow your business.

Ben Galbraith:

At the same time the Web has been expanding, we've all been blown away as desktop computers have somehow shrunk down to pocket size. Clearly a revolution in hardware is taking place and it doesn't take a prophet to work out that the future of computing lies along this new trajectory.

However, my enthusiasm for this amazing new world is tempered by some unfortunate decisions made by some of the players in this space. It seems that some view this revolution as a chance to seize power in downright Orwellian ways by constraining what we as developers can say, dictating what kinds of apps we can create, controlling how we distribute our apps, and placing all kinds of limits on what can do to our computing devices.

Dion Almaer:

There is a massive opportunity with Palm webOS to give Web developers the ability to deploy outside of the browser, and onto the device.

I have long been frustrated with the status quo with certain platforms, and as I thought about what makes me happy as a developer, it is freedom, choice, and information flow. I feel passionately about bringing these values to mobile, and carry my Web DNA with me. When Palm came to Ben and I, we were curious to see how much they understood what it really meant to have a "webOS". The management team impressed us, and persuaded us that they understand how important the principles of the Web are, as well as the crucial role of developers. By giving us the honor of this responsibility, they signal their intent.

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Goodbye native app developers!

CFreymarc @ 9/28/2009 9:35:46 AM #
These two hires show that not only are they not commenting on requests to do third party native code on the new platform, they are flipping off the command line junkies as they exit the station.

Your call guys! But whom you leave behind will go elsewhere. Become very welcomed and will remember this slight for decades to come. The whole world cannot be run on script languages.

Removable hard drive

e_tellurian @ 9/28/2009 3:30:16 PM #
Look into PDAs with removable hard drives. Good for content security too.

Peace,

E-T


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RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 9/28/2009 5:30:55 PM #

nope. cloud.

RE: Removable hard drive
DarthRepublican @ 9/28/2009 6:52:35 PM #
Right now I'm posting using a netbook which weighs less than three pounds.

In my jacket pocket is an even smaller UMPC which weighs a little more than half a pound and is about twice as thick as my Palm TX. It can connect through wifi or tether off my Pre through Bluetooth. It boots up in ten seconds and resumes from sleep in three. The day is rapidly approaching when your PDA will be a tiny Windows or Linux PC with a solid state drive. Maybe next year, maybe sooner....
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RE: Removable hard drive
e_tellurian @ 9/29/2009 2:23:10 PM #
Solid state that plugs in for removal with a special key. Watch makes have had success with eco drives what about eco drives for PDAs?

Eco drivers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-Drive

e-tellurian

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RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 9/29/2009 2:53:45 PM #

this is 2009, not 1999. this is the age of the cloud.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing

no removable hard drives are needed since all of your data is now on the cloud. if you lose or break your device, you just get a new one. and you can still access your data from any other connected device - ie PC, smartphone etc. and since your data isn't on the actual device, it's very secure if you lose it - you simply change your cloud password. and a credit card number is all you need to make transactions.


RE: Removable hard drive
dserodio @ 9/29/2009 3:01:28 PM #
Gekko wrote:

this is 2009, not 1999. this is the age of the cloud.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing

no removable hard drives are needed since all of your data is now on the cloud. if you lose or break your device, you just get a new one. and you can still access your data from any other connected device - ie PC, smartphone etc. and since your data isn't on the actual device, it's very secure if you lose it - you simply change your cloud password. and a credit card number is all you need to make transactions.


And what happens if your Internet link is down? If you're in a rural area with no decent 'net coverage? What if your cloud password is compromised? What if ...
RE: Removable hard drive
e_tellurian @ 9/29/2009 3:19:06 PM #
In my opinion it is good to have content stored in more than one place. Redundancy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundancy_(engineering) is important for efficiency of Murphy's law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law

Peace,

E-T
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RE: Removable hard drive
e_tellurian @ 9/29/2009 3:23:47 PM #
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy's_law

Peace,

E-T
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RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 9/29/2009 3:59:36 PM #

move out of the sticks, gentlemen.

RE: Removable hard drive
DarthRepublican @ 9/29/2009 6:45:48 PM #
dserodio wrote:
And what happens if your Internet link is down? If you're in a rural area with no decent 'net coverage? What if your cloud password is compromised? What if ...

In the future, there will be a persistent, global interplanetary Internet with information carried by manipulating the natural neutrino flux put out by the sun. Your information will be anywhere you need it and will be downloaded directly into your brain through a cyber implant. And passwords will be unnecessary because by then we will have all been assimilated into a single collective mind which will work for the betterment of all species. Resistance will be futile.
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RE: Removable hard drive
Tim Carroll @ 9/29/2009 6:49:28 PM # M
YOUR BIOLOGICAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL DISTINCTIVENESS WILL BE ADDED TO OUR OWN.
RE: Removable hard drive
e_tellurian @ 9/30/2009 11:23:07 AM #
Choices are part of a free society. Some will want to choose two or more devices some may want to choose just one. The choice will be based on how much we can afford not what is the "best" choice. Is that a real choice?

Regardless of how content is delivered it still belongs to the individual, based on circumstances, choose to be part of a collective whole or may choose not to if one choice is the goal.

May have to go it alone with people that want more than one solution. One is not a choice a minimum of two is needed to have a choice ... just some thoughts.

Peace,

E-T
e-tellurian

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RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 9/30/2009 2:55:29 PM #

you can only choose from what's available. i may "choose" to watch new movies in VHS over DVD - but that don't mean it's going to happen.

this is 2009. welcome to the future.

RE: Removable hard drive
e_tellurian @ 9/30/2009 4:30:07 PM #
The future of choices or consequences?

There is no reason why people can not choose a PDA with a removable hard drive. If a customer chooses to upgrade their device via courier all they need to do is remove their content (hard drive) and send the unit back. Recycling is good for the environment. The new device just has to be able to read the hard drive. The consequence of not having this choice is delayed productivity and risk of lost data.

Eco-drives can power next generation PDAs offering good back up to e-motion. This will assure productivity does not suffer as a consequence of lost power.

Peace,

E-T
e-tellurian

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RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 9/30/2009 5:46:23 PM #

In the world I see - you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rockefeller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Tower. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying strips of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighway.

RE: Removable hard drive
twrock @ 9/30/2009 7:42:12 PM #
Wow. Great start Gekko. It's almost poetic. I think you can turn that into a best-selling futuristic novel. Brought a tear to my eye.....

Hey Palm! Where's my PDA with Wifi and phone capabilities?
RE: Removable hard drive
SeldomVisitor @ 10/1/2009 3:24:33 AM #
I (unfortunately?) am not a poster-worshipper so do not know the history of any said entity, but aren't hard drives sorta last century?

RE: Removable hard drive
e_tellurian @ 10/1/2009 8:02:38 AM #
If you have ever transferred content from one PDA or smart phone to another you may see the logic in a removable hard drive. A removable hard drive would take a fraction of the time.

Perhaps there was no purpose in the past for removable hard drives? Perhaps people put more content on PDAs and smart phones than in the past?

Change is a consequence of people's choices nothing more.

Peace,

E-T
e-tellurian

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RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 10/1/2009 10:30:53 AM #

e-t - you're a decade or two too late. this is the age of the Cloud. get with the program.
RE: Removable hard drive
SeldomVisitor @ 10/1/2009 10:37:22 AM #
> ...this is the age of the Cloud...

Did you see Ellison's diatribe against "The Cloud"?

http://seekingalpha.com/article/164309-oracle-s-larry-ellison-rips-into-cloud-computing-nonsense?source=yahoo

Perfect.

And spot on.

RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 10/1/2009 10:44:52 AM #

fireashes said:

He does not hate cloud computing. He just hates the use of the word cloud. He makes money by selling his softwares to the people who sell services termed as cloud computing.

If he hates cloud computing then he would be out of business.

RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 10/1/2009 10:51:33 AM #

Paranoid schizophrenics are notoriously difficult, if not impossible, to analyze. Many analysts would say that they are simply "unanalyzable" - that the psyche of a paranoid schizophrenic is utterly impenetrable. For example, Freud says that because with paranoid schizophrenics the transference is essentially negative, "there ceases to be any possibility of influence or cure".
RE: Removable hard drive
e_tellurian @ 10/1/2009 11:29:06 AM #
What does that have to do with innovation or removable hard drives?

Ones illness is not an issue here. We are sharing some thoughts that not all understand that does not make a person ill. To be understood is not a right it is a choice. If people choose to understand they will. i have no right to judge the intellect of another even if they do not understand me.

There will always be a place in the world where people can be understood. The Internet would not exist if it were not for innovative people.

If fear were a sickness ... the cure would be trust.

Back to innovation.

The removable hard drive has a purpose. Only has to be enough people that see value in a removable hard drive for it to be of value. Not everyone must choose a removable hard drive.

Peace,

E-T
e-tellurian

Completing the e-com circle with a people driven we-com solution
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RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 10/1/2009 11:38:14 AM #

please record a video of your spoken thoughts and post it on youtube and post a link here.
RE: Removable hard drive
e_tellurian @ 10/1/2009 12:58:37 PM #
Why do you want a video? How much will this cost of my time? Much time has already been invested. Who will pay for this time?

My thoughts should be enough they are not free either. One can not purchase much without money seems better to focus on understanding then videos.

i have chosen not to put my face on the Internet for privacy reasons ... that is still my right. You are one person with your own thoughts. I do not need/want to know what you look like your thoughts are enough. Can't build much with a picture. Need the thoughts more than the picture as the thoughts are what we build with not a face.


Back to innovation:

Why do you not want a removable hard drive?

Peace,

E-T
e-tellurian

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RE: Removable hard drive
DarthRepublican @ 10/1/2009 2:16:23 PM #
SeldomVisitor wrote:
> ...this is the age of the Cloud...

Did you see Ellison's diatribe against "The Cloud"?

http://seekingalpha.com/article/164309-oracle-s-larry-ellison-rips-into-cloud-computing-nonsense?source=yahoo

Perfect.

And spot on.

Wasn't this the guy who in the 90s tried to convince us all to give up our PCs for thin client computers (made by his company of course) which ran under a network operating system which sounded a whole lot like a deeply centralized, corporate version of today's cloud?

Watches video....

Yep, he's just pissed because he's not getting credit for an idea that he "thought of" first. Of course given the prominence of Oracle in back end database software, he's probably making a ton of money off the "water vapor" that is cloud computing -- just not as much as he wants to make.
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Screw convergence
Palm III->Visor Deluxe->Visor Platinum->Visor Prism->Tungsten E->Palm LifeDrive->Palm TX->Palm Pre
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RE: Removable hard drive
e_tellurian @ 10/1/2009 2:30:52 PM #
Do some people see value in having a removable hard drive in something like a we-com virtual wallet? This data has been stolen in the past and present so it seems a good thought to think of ways to minimize identity theft. Do some people see value in PDAs with removable hard drives that interact with such sensitive and critical data?

Any thoughts?

Peace,

E-T
e-tellurian

Completing the e-com circle with a people driven we-com solution
WiFi & BT? No strings attached
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RE: Removable hard drive
SeldomVisitor @ 10/1/2009 2:53:44 PM #
Yes, he DID stress thin computing - that was the whole point of his diatribe - The Cloud is literally nothing more than networked computers renamed with a cool name.


RE: Removable hard drive
DarthRepublican @ 10/1/2009 7:50:54 PM #
e_tellurian wrote:
Do some people see value in having a removable hard drive in something like a we-com virtual wallet? This data has been stolen in the past and present so it seems a good thought to think of ways to minimize identity theft. Do some people see value in PDAs with removable hard drives that interact with such sensitive and critical data?

Any thoughts?

Peace,

E-T

Most of us already have a "removable hard drive" in the form of the nearly ubiquitous SD and microSD cards which fit into our devices. The iPhone and the Pre are something of an anomaly in that they don't have a removable media slot. Future webOS devices are likely to add one as Palm struggles to differentiate its offerings and get them out of the iPhone's shadow. This would leave Apple as the lone hold out from the removable media bandwagon. It will be a huge outlier as it is likely to remain wildly popular. But for the most part most mobile devices already have a "removable hard drive" and will continue to do so for a long time.
Palm Apologist
Shouting down the PIC Faithful Since 2009
Screw convergence
Palm III->Visor Deluxe->Visor Platinum->Visor Prism->Tungsten E->Palm LifeDrive->Palm TX->Palm Pre
Visor Pro+VisorPhone->Treo 180g->Treo 270->Treo 600->Treo 680->T-Mobile G1->Palm Pre
http://mind-grapes.blogspot.com/

RE: Removable hard drive
abosco @ 10/1/2009 8:11:24 PM # M
ET, you've been wishing people peace for the last 8 years. I challenge you to a duel.

This is not a joke. This is not an invitation to talk about virtual wallets that nobody wants. I don't care about choice. I challenge you to a duel. With guns.

No matter the outcome, I don't care. I won't have to listen to your nonsense ever again.

RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 10/2/2009 4:48:18 AM #

f**k a duel. i say you have a drinking contest. we can watch via web cam live stream. shot for shot of tequila. loser pukes or quits.
RE: Removable hard drive
abosco @ 10/2/2009 5:59:12 AM # M
First one to the worm wins? I'm game.

Can we get Mike Con in on this?

RE: Removable hard drive
Tim Carroll @ 10/2/2009 6:51:20 AM #
Cane is always drunk, so far as I can tell.

I'd be in on this. The last drinking game I played was "Slippery Sixty", although you seppos probably know it by some other different weird name. You drink a shot of beer every sixty seconds for one hour. I apparently was so drunk afterward I tried to pee on the host's lounge room wall. I don't actually remember it so as far as I'm concerned it never happened

On another tangent, tequila is evil. My worst hangovers ever were the result of tequila. It's second only to red wine for headaches, IMO.

RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 10/2/2009 7:29:05 AM #

>On another tangent, tequila is evil. My worst hangovers ever were the result of tequila. It's second only to red wine for headaches, IMO.

agreed. every few years or so i forget this fact and drink it but then wake up the next AFTERNOON with a brutal incapacitating hangover and with my bathroom toilet area looking like a crime scene. of course it's rude to say no when someone puts a shot in front of you. give me ketel one vodka.

RE: Removable hard drive
abosco @ 10/2/2009 8:13:52 AM # M
Tim, it's called Power Hour over here. A buddy of mine opened a drawer full of his own clothes and took a leak after a session. First time I've ever seen that.

ET doesn't appear to me as a Ketel One drinker. He sounds more like one of those frat boys who orders a dirty girl scout and thinks he's ironic.

What is in a we-com shot? Natural Light, choice, splash of nobody cares, splash of coke, and shame? Sounds like 20 years of progress to me.

RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 10/2/2009 8:32:06 AM #

i've been pretty drunk in my day - but never that drunk and stupid where i pissed somewhere that i shouldn't have. i've known guys who've done it - and there's just no excuse for it. disgusting.

my guess is E-T isn't a big drinker because it doesn't mix well will his medications ie lithium. however, when he does imbibe, because he is a true die hard canadian, it's either crown royal or canadian club. and as far as beer goes, my guess is molson or labbatt blue. all of which i can't stand. give me Guinness or Corona.

RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 10/2/2009 8:33:31 AM #

true die hard PROUD canadian
RE: Removable hard drive
abosco @ 10/2/2009 10:09:26 AM # M
Corona. So you like that bottled urine taste? I thought you were just talking about the shame in misplaced drunk pissing.

Give me a Sam Adams. No beer can hold a candle to that. Stella and Yuengling are pretty good too. Not Guiness -- beer should not be pitch black, or require a spoon to consume.

RE: Removable hard drive
Gekko @ 10/2/2009 10:14:58 AM #

someday when you grow hair on your balls you'll appreciate a good pint of Guinness.

"When things go wrong and will not come right, Though you do the best you can, When life looks black as the hour of night / A pint of plain is your only man. When money's tight and hard to get And your horse has also ran, When all you have is a heap of debt / A pint of plain is your only man."

- "The Workman's Friend," an ode to the pint of Guinness from Flann O'Brien's novel "At Swim-Two-Birds,"

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