More ACCESS Linux Platform Photos from 3GSM

I don't think so, those screenshots don't appear to be anything special.

Bingo - Palm's 3rd business is to develop radical new form-factors - like this new ultra-unportable unit (they may be calling it a development unit - but kids, we know better - it's Palm's new Treo form-factor!)

All that chunkiness and not a thumb-board in sight!

K*

I wish I was there, too: it's warm in Barcelona. However, I'm in New York this week, for Linux Foundation meetings, where it's about 26 degrees and sleeting...

Well, I knew the job was dangerous when I took it...

Well, ultimately the keypad's there on the development board because Marvell puts it there.

I think there may be a facility on that board to support a secondary display...

It can be a roaring success without us *ever* seeing it.

I think there are quite a few here who would object to you confusing "us" with U.S.

But ignoring that for the moment, there are so many ways that the mobile market could develop in the U.S. that it's hard to discount the prospect of ALP devices showing up here except in the shortest term (I doubt you and I are going to be the first to see one, Mike).

David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com/blog

Those are features of that particular theme. All of this can be customized...

...and some of it is already being customized in Garnet with programs like PalmRevolt.


Thinking about Vista? Think again: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt

David raises a valid point: it's a large world out there, and while the US cell phone market may be the only one which matters to you, Mike, it's neither the largest nor (and how this pains me!) the most advanced cell phone market around. We're a global company, and we have a global business.

I share what information I can, and I try to be responsive when possible. I'm not going to be sharing licensee or other customer plans, nor am I going to be ammouncing device release date, specific licensees or customers, or other such information--that's not my department, and it's up to the licensee whether they're willing to have that done by usat all--so please don't bother asking. As they say in Japan, "Chotto muzukashii desu...": "That might be a little difficult..."

And, as I've pointed out in the past, my occasional participation is one hundred percent contingent on the ability of other participants to act as though they're adults discussing technology and business issues. The instant things devolve into the fifth grade, and the pointless name-calling, personal attacks, sexual harassment, etc., start up, I'm outa here like a shot.

stone: SHOVE your PC, man. I'm sick of you twats looking at things the wrong way.

I CLEARLY said:

>>>It can be a roaring success without us *ever* seeing it.

I made the same point you just did, you holier-than-thou eejit.

Chill out, Mike. I wasn't arguing with you and I wasn't trying to be "PC." Just giving a polite nod to folks in the room like twrock, freakout, ChiA, Kultivator, Surer, rsc1000, toyspring, joe77, grimpeur as well as the anonymous lurkers that don't live in the U.S.

Looks like most of the people participating in this conversation aren't from the US, which is just an idle observation, but sort of interesting nonetheless. I wonder why that is?

David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com/blog

Yeah, I hop around, but the vast majority of the time (90%?) I'm not in the US.


Thinking about Vista? Think again: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.txt
Want an alternative? Try this: http://www.ubuntu.com/

BTW, thanks for that Vista link. I used it on my blog. It also tells me I'd better stick with XP for some time...

> Other than that, visually, it looks like same old Palm OS, albeit with a much needed UI update.

Yeah - kinda spooky seeing some of the stock Palm OS dialog boxes / pop-ups on a new device - although I realise that is just a cosmetic thing, most likely aimed at giving old Palm OS die-hards like us some feeling of continuity?

I just wonder what a device with such a large screen and large thumb-board would actually look like? And how usable the new mouse pointer functionality will be in real life.

Interesting stuff all the same - but lacks some of the wow-factor that the iPhone exudes with it's (battery draining????) transitions and other eye-candy!

KultiVator

Anyone complaining about, for instance, the TX battery life?

If it was a phone, I imagine they would.

>>>If it was a phone, I imagine they would.

It might be.

I assume that in the video, it is not showing a reference handset - it looks tethered. So i'm thinking it is just screen + controls and all of the actual processing is happening on either a desktop sim or one of these dev board. I don't know how the dev boards work - but if this is an x68 based sim we are seeing then that fully accounts for that rather Windows-ish mouse. Note that it also seems that the actual navigation and UI usages is happening via the mouse - not the controls of the device. We never see the touchscreen used either.
Not that this means anything other then that was the convenient way for them to demo; if it runs on the dev board then it can run on actual hardware.

That curser isnt moving like a mouse driven curser.
The person holding the phone is cotroling it with the 4way controler.
If they are going to build in that sort of functionality for non touch screen phones it would be great to have a nipple like the old laptops.
Far more intuitive than a 4way that only givs you straight up/down and left/right.

on a long enough timeline the survival rate of everyone drops to zero

That device looks like a Quanta made handset. They commonly distribute via O2 Asia.

Surur

They said I only argued for the sake of arguing, but after an hour I convinced them they were wrong...
Hey!! I made associate writer at PDA247. Come see my nattering over there!!
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Strange question - Win Mob has the majority of the PDA market, and is doing pretty well in the smartphone market.

If you are referring to Quanta making ALP smartphones also, in addition to Win Mob smartphones, then the fact is that Quanta is mostly an ODM, and they will make smartphones with anyone's OS on it, even GarnetOS ;) They are pretty successful with WM devices, making pretty high priced, high end devices.

Surur

They said I only argued for the sake of arguing, but after an hour I convinced them they were wrong...
Hey!! I made associate writer at PDA247. Come see my nattering over there!!
www.clieuk.co.uk/wm.shtml