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Palm Officially Introduces the Foleo

FoleoPalm has officially announced the Foleo, its first smartphone companion product. The Foleo has a large screen and full-size keyboard with which to view and edit email and office documents residing on a smartphone. Edits made on Foleo automatically are reflected on its paired smartphone and vice versa. The device stays in sync via a bluetooth connection and it also includes a built-in Wi-Fi radio for general Internet connectivity.

The Foleo mobile companion turns on and off instantly and features fast navigation, a compact and elegant design, and a battery that lasts up to 5 hours of use. Its applications include email, full-screen web browser, and editors or viewers for common business documents such as Word, Excel, PowerPoint and PDF files.

Foleo and its paired smartphone stay synchronized throughout the day or at the touch of a button. This powerful combination is for productivity-minded business people who want a more complete mobile solution for email, attachments and access to the web.

Although designed primarily as a companion to a mobile phone, Foleo is a powerful computer on its own. Its Linux-based operating system and built-in Wi-Fi radio make it easy for developers to create new applications that can be installed with a single click in the browser. The Foleo has a USB port, video-out port, headphone jack, and slots for SD and compact flash cards for memory expansion. This combination of capabilities in a low-cost design is new in the industry. Palm has opened its design and is actively supporting third-party software developers.

Palm Foleo Palm Foleo

"Foleo is the most exciting product I have ever worked on," said Jeff Hawkins, founder of Palm, Inc. and the visionary behind the Foleo's concept and definition. "Smartphones will be the most prevalent personal computers on the planet, ultimately able to do everything that desktop computers can do. However, there are times when people need a large screen and full-size keyboard. As smartphones get smaller, this need increases. The Foleo completes the picture, creating a mobile-computing system that sets a new standard in simplicity."

Primary Capabilities and Attributes of the Foleo Mobile Companion:

  • One-button access to full-screen email
  • Instant on, instant off
  • Rapid access to various applications
  • 10-inch screen and full-size keyboard (1024 x 600 pixels)
  • Web search and browsing via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi
  • Editors for Word, Excel and PowerPoint, plus a PDF viewer
  • Compact, stylish design that fits on an airline tray table
  • Lightweight at 2.5 pounds
  • Fast, simple and intuitive navigation
  • 5-hour battery life
  • Linux OS for easy application development

The Foleo mobile companion's hardware design features elegantly clean lines and forgoes excessive latches and connectors. An innovative scroll wheel, clever forward and back buttons, and a convenient track point enable easy navigation without requiring the user's hands leave the full-size keyboard.

Palm FoleoBy building the Foleo on an open Linux-based software platform, Palm hopes to replicate earlier success with developers by drawing a large community to create new applications that will extend the mobile companion's capabilities. Palm already has partnered with DataViz and Opera Software, demonstrating the ease with which exciting technology and applications can be ported to the Foleo mobile companion. Palm also will produce tools to allow smartphone manufacturers to make devices compatible with the Foleo mobile companion.

Email
Drawing on Palm's world-class usability and responsiveness, the Foleo mobile companion gives Palm OS and Windows Mobile based smartphone customers more power and flexibility while retaining the most-loved features of the Treo smartphone. For example, customers open the Foleo, press a button, and it turns on instantly. There is never a delay or boot-up time. A dedicated button provides access to email. All work is saved, so there is no need to close applications or take actions in order to save files. When the Foleo is turned on again, it resumes where the user left off.

Web Browsing
It is easy to view the web through built-in Bluetooth and Wi-Fi radios, using the Opera browser. Using Bluetooth, a Treo smartphone acts as a wireless modem for the Foleo. Alternatively, customers can use the Foleo mobile companion's built-in Wi-Fi.

Office Documents
The Foleo mobile companion also supports the most popular types of attachments. As on the Treo smartphone, the mobile companion uses a version of Documents To Go customized by DataViz. People can create and edit Word, Excel and PowerPoint compatible documents. The Foleo also includes a Palm-developed PDF reader.

Foleo mobile companions work with Palm's Treo smartphones (Palm OS and Windows Mobile versions). However, Palm believes that most smartphones based on Windows Mobile should work with little or no modification. Smartphones based on operating systems from Research in Motion, Apple, and Symbian likely can be supported with a modest software effort. The Foleo's synchronization architecture is open, and Palm expects to work with third-party developers to support as many smartphones as possible.

U.S. availability for the Palm Foleo mobile companion will begin this summer. The price of the Foleo mobile companion is expected to be $499 after an introductory $100 rebate. Palm has a email signup page to be notified about Foleo availability.

New: For more details, head over and read our notes from the Foleo webcast presentation today.

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Hmmmmm....

rcartwright @ 5/30/2007 1:54:03 PM # Q
At first blush I am pretty underwhelmed. The price will tell the tale for me, but so far it looks way too big.

"Many men stumble across the truth, but most manage to pick themselves up
and continue as if nothing had happened."
- Winston Churchill
RE: Hmmmmm....
potter @ 5/30/2007 2:04:14 PM # Q
rcartwright @ 5/30/2007 1:54:03 PM wrote
The price will tell the tale for me, but so far it looks way too big.

From previous article:
U.S. availability for Foleo begins this summer with pricing expected to be $499 after an introductory $100 rebate.


RE: Hmmmmm....
nybble @ 5/30/2007 3:08:23 PM # Q
Underwhelmed is not the word. This is crazy talk from Palm and Hawkins. What thing is even remotely revolutionary here? Seriously.

This reminds me a bit of the first wave of WinCE based laptops in the late 90's that touted instant on and fast access to applications. Or it reminds me, you know, of laptops.

http://comments.deasil.com/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-meh/

RE: Hmmmmm....
rcartwright @ 5/30/2007 4:34:47 PM # Q
$450.00 price-by itself not a deal breaker (BTW, thanks for the pointer I was in a hurry when I first scanned the artice)

No touch screen/tablet feature-all I can say to this is WTF!

Size- as a 40 something attorney I have stayed away from the Treo till a few weeks ago because of small screen size, no WiFi and dislike for the thumb board. Right now I use a TX/Treo 680 in somewhat the same way as Palm sees the Foleo/smartphone pairing. Sync is a kludge and seamless sync has some appeal for me. I would submit that for the segment of the population that can't really see the small screen of a smartphone, this has some merit. Of course, the people who say I already have a laptop, I would respond as some others have that if its as light as advertised and as fast as advertised and if it has some built in flash drive, then there might be a market for it.

Alas, I may well not be part of that market.

"Many men stumble across the truth, but most manage to pick themselves up
and continue as if nothing had happened."
- Winston Churchill

RE: Hmmmmm....
fishtastic @ 5/30/2007 5:14:29 PM # Q
Hurray, Palm is saved.

This will sell in the literally tens of millions. Time for the Palm board to order more ivory back scratchers.

Er No...

Oh dear. I can't believe this was what Palm had up their sleeve. I can't help being reminded of the OLPC and that doesn't cost $4XX. Very poor show, Palm. You never listen, you never learn.

Bye Palm

Fish

RE: Hmmmmm....
scstraus2 @ 5/30/2007 9:33:21 PM # Q
You know what, if it had an e-ink display and really good battery life measured in days, I'd go for it. I need something to replace my paper notebook and magazines that I carry everywhere.

But as it is, I just think it's too small of a niche. I already must carry my laptop for work, the functionality in this doesn't come close to replacing it, so why would I waste space on it? It really doesn't make sense. I suppose some extremely casual users could have some use for it, but I think they've carved a very small niche with this product.

Palm: Do this with e-ink and a touch screen a-la the Irex Iliad (but with the battery life of the Sony Reader), and you've got a customer. Otherwise you are going down a well trodden path of stripped down laptops, internet only devices, email only devices, web-tv, etc. I suppose people think that they are going to get a million grandmas online with these devices, but that never seems to happen. They just don't fit the need for the rest of us.

RE: Hmmmmm....
painted_dog @ 5/30/2007 10:41:13 PM # Q
scstraus2 wrote:
"You know what, if it had an e-ink display and really good battery life measured in days, I'd go for it. I need something to replace my paper notebook and magazines that I carry everywhere.

But as it is, I just think it's too small of a niche. I already must carry my laptop for work, the functionality in this doesn't come close to replacing it, so why would I waste space on it? It really doesn't make sense. I suppose some extremely casual users could have some use for it, but I think they've carved a very small niche with this product."

...i absolutely agree.

-painted dog

Palm FOOLeo®: Fool me twice, shame on me. I won't get FOOLeoed...
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 6/1/2007 5:37:36 AM # Q
March 30, 2007 will be remembered as The Day Palm Died.

When I first saw one of these, I thought it was actually just a sick joke. An elaborate in-house April Fool's joke. TreoMan assured me it was real. That was the day I finally gave up on Palm. The FOOLeo® is a product that needlessly diverted attention and resources from Palm's core products, resulting in fatal stagnation of both the Treo and Palm's traditional PDA lineups. Palm is too small to spread its (severely limited) talent around, especially on redundant designs. This company is so clueless that there is no way they will ever recover from the burden of being run by utterly IDIOTIC LEECHES that only care about plundering and parasitizing the company until the very end. Most parasites are smart enough to ensure that don't kill their hosts. Not Palm's management. These bloodsuckers have bled the company dry as they've continued to collect paychecks and cash in massive stock options.

The FOOLeo® is an answer to a question no one is asking. Let's see: Almost as big and almost as expensive as a Real Windows device, yet unable to run Real Windows apps? Break me off a piece of that! I'll take twenty! Any device much larger than the Nokia N800 that lacks Real Windows is pointless in this day of ever-improving Windows UMPC, Real Windows micro laptops and smartphones. The FOOLeo® niche simply does not exist. And organisms without a niche invariable die quickly.

Eventually it will be leaked that long ago Palm knew this product was doomed. The problem was that so much time + resources had already been wasted on it that by the time someone finally stepped in and said, "W T F is going on here? This is utter crap that will never sell." no one had the cojones to pull the plug on the project in 2005 when they should have. So now we have the latest equivalent of the Palm i705/DUNGSTEN T5/LifeDrive/Cobalt. As with Cobalt (PalmOS 6), failure to quickly amputate a gangrenous limb (product) will be remembered as the coup de grace that (mercifully?) ended Palm's existence.

What Palm should have released was a simple clamshell "PalmTop®" design along the lines of a CLIE UX50. With a 4 inch screen. Preferrably OLED. In 2005. With a COMPLETE software suite, including email, VPN, NetFront browser, PDF viewer, Word/Excel/Powerpoint-compatible suite. Keep It Simple, Stupid. The FOOLeo® with its current specs may have been a viable product category 4 or 5 years ago when I had urged Palm's product managers to consider a small PalmOS laptop with the simplicity of the AlphaSmart Dana. The key would have been to adhere to the KISS principle and not try to add features that the company's engineers were too clueless to easily implement. Palm is too talentless a company to be trying to reinvent the wheel itself. The FOOLeo® is the hardware equivalent of Cobalt: an unfinished, fundamentally flawed idea that is arriving 2 year too late to matter and will result in the death of the company. Maybe Palm should offer the FOOLeo® in a Special Edition Cobalt color?

The only questions that now remain are these: Now that it has finally been revealed that Emperor Hawkins Has No Clothes and that the Secret Third Business (STB) was a sham all along, who will buy Palm? What value does Palm offer a potential suitor? What assets do Palm have in their portfolio that a company big enough to purchase Palm couldn't purchase cheaper elsewhere or easily copy/develop for themselves?

Palm's "assets":
- A dead PDA lineup that hasn't seen significant improvements (or even a slightly refreshed new model) in years.
- A rapidly-aging set of bulky, shoddily-built smartphones that haven't seen significant improvements made to a 4 year old design. (There isn't much in the latest Treos that wouldn't have been in the 2003 Handspring Treo 600 had Handspring not been living hand-to-mouth + on the verge of bankruptcy when the Treo 600 was originally released.
- A laughable FOOLeo® product that - BY DEFINITION - has no target market that exists outside of Hawkins' dreams. (It's sad to see Hawkins embarassing himself trying to pimp the FOOLeo®. Remember the rhetoric we previously were subjected to re: the i705/DUNGsten T5/LifeDrive/Cobalt? It's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack.)
- The phone numbers of HTC, Solectron and Inventec.
- Rights to rickety old FrankenPalmOS and the freedom to continue adding more bugs/maggots to the OS until the PalmOS corpse finally putrefies.
- Several hundred million $$$ in cash.
- The Palm and Treo names


"Who's gonna bid it at a billion dollar bill? Five, will you beat it on a billion and five, bid it on a billion and five, a billion and five. Who's gonna bid it at a billion and five dollar bill?"

If PalmSource and Chrysler (twice!) can get sold, Palm has a chance. It all boils down to how greedy the company's board is. Kinda hard to bluff when everyone at the table knows the cards you're holding are utter crap, isn't it, Eric?

TVoR
Copyright, 2007
TVoR, Inc.

RE: Hmmmmm....
SeldomVisitor @ 6/5/2007 8:36:01 AM # Q
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Third business.

averageguy @ 5/30/2007 1:56:29 PM # Q
palm is making laptops?

m125-zire 71-zire 72
"Never pay full price for late pizza" Michelangelo
RE: Third business.
SeldomVisitor @ 5/30/2007 2:06:15 PM # Q
I wonder if there's any competition in that sector?

RE: Third business.
cervezas @ 5/30/2007 2:22:04 PM # Q
I see where they are going with this. With a decent enough third-party developer ecosystem it could even work. The smartphone is supposed to become the "soul pad" of the new personal computer: the central repository for all your critical data around which everything else is just input/output devices. And I do think that's where personal computing will go.

But out of the box... I don't know. Is the lead solution on this thing--email--really going to be enough to make someone who doesn't carry a laptop around say "I need this thing"?

The software looks beautiful and simple. And the instant-on, instant-off aspect is more important than I think many people give it credit. I was really hoping we'd have a touchscreen. I can see developing some great business software that syncs between this and a smartphone. But I need Palm to get people to buy these first, and I'm not seeing the market driver here.

This is going to look to shareholders like Palm is trying to go head-to-head with Microsoft. And it's going to look that way because that's exactly what Palm is doing!

Wow.


David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com/blog

RE: Third business.
PenguinPowered @ 5/30/2007 2:27:16 PM # Q
There's no there, there. There's probably more processing power in the foleo than in the smartphone, even if foleo is only using the same chip, and it has room for a bigger battery. Throw in an evdo card and you don't need the phone.

On the other hand, people who want bigger keyboards and displays than their smartphones supply will want more of everything and will go for laptop once they're stuck carrying the extra baggage anyway.

UMPCs will blow this thing away, or the market for it simply doesn't exist.



May You Live in Interesting Times

RE: Third business.
SeldomVisitor @ 5/30/2007 2:38:20 PM # Q
I think LifeDrive II more than adequately describes this.

RE: Third business.
mikecane @ 5/30/2007 2:41:52 PM # Q
>>>UMPCs will blow this thing away, or the market for it simply doesn't exist.

2008 will bring:
http://tinyurl.com/2mq6fl

Foleo. Flopio is more like it!

Hey, you Nokia N800 users. This gonna make you switch? Thought not!

Why would I want to shell out $500-$600 bucks for something that looks like it was ripped off from HPs old sub-subnotebook (I can't recall the model now; someone will dig it up somewhere) and has far less capability than a notebook that costs maybe 1.5-2x as much and can do, minimally, A HUNDRED TIMES MORE?

My Reaction To Palm’s New Foleo Device
http://tinyurl.com/2wxw4s

Next!

BTW: Anyone else notice Mobile Companion has replace Mobile Manager (LifeDrive) in the Palm site sidebar?

RE: Third business.
dukat @ 5/30/2007 4:53:30 PM # Q
Sorry, even if I'm repeating myself, this product just cries out for more accurate names: Flopio / Flopeo as you already mentioned, but more: Forgetteo, Fooleo, Noleo, or even No-Treo.

Thanks Palm, at least we have something to giggle at your funeral ;-)

IIIe -> m505 -> T3 -> Treo650 -> Treo680

RE: Third business.
mikecane @ 5/30/2007 5:42:36 PM # Q
You can Fooleo Somemeo Peopleo Somemeo Time.

But can't Fooleo Me!

RE: Third business.
cervezas @ 5/30/2007 5:55:46 PM # Q
You can Fooleo Somemeo Peopleo Somemeo Time.

But can't Fooleo Me!

Who could do that better than yourself, Mike?

David Beers
Pikesoft Mobile Computing
www.pikesoft.com/blog

RE: Third business.
painted_dog @ 5/30/2007 10:44:07 PM # Q
mikecane wrote:
"BTW: Anyone else notice Mobile Companion has replace Mobile Manager (LifeDrive) in the Palm site sidebar?"

..separately, i would've expected the Foleo to be listed under Accessories ;-)

-painted dog

RE: Third business.
rpa @ 5/30/2007 11:10:59 PM # Q
a new version of HP's old Omnibook??

rpa
RE: Third business.
rmhurdman @ 5/31/2007 7:45:29 AM # Q
The fact that Mobile Companion has replace Mobile Manager as a category adds more fuel to the speculation that the LifeDrive really was Hawkins' third business. Until it flopped.
I wonder how many flops Palm can sustain?

RE: Third business.
SeldomVisitor @ 5/31/2007 8:02:44 AM # Q
Yup yup yup.

RE: Third business.
mikecane @ 5/31/2007 3:10:20 PM # Q
>>>Who could do that better than yourself, Mike?

Go suck on your Nokia. And swallow. And hopefully choke.

RE: Third business.
Haber @ 5/31/2007 4:44:07 PM # Q
EPOC and Palm-size PC. Oh, wait, EPOC died when almost everyone could afford to go out and buy laptops, and Palm-size PC bombed. I'm sure a third go at a non-standard system and OS with extremely limited capabilities and an absurdly high price point (for $499, you can buy a real laptop) will magically work this time around. After all, it says "Palm" on it.

RE: Third business.
Haber @ 5/31/2007 4:45:50 PM # Q
EPOC > Psion

RE: Third business.
Haber @ 5/31/2007 4:52:03 PM # Q
The advertising on the Palm website is shilling the Foleo as something to use with your Treo. I am not going to buy a Treo and a Foleo, and I don't think anyone but the most rabid Palm fan would. People are going to use their laptops, not a Foleo. The original Palms succeeded because they integrated so well with existing PCs. The market is not so radically different now that Palm can get away with selling Treos that are effectively mobile internet access devices, and sell a Foleo that serves as an in between Treo conduit, when you have your PC that is far far more capable than being a simple Treo add-on.

RE: Third business.
Stan Wayne @ 5/31/2007 10:18:29 PM # Q
mikecane @ 5/30/2007 2:41:52 PM #

>>>UMPCs will blow this thing away, or the market for it simply doesn't exist.

2008 will bring:
http://tinyurl.com/2mq6fl

Foleo. Flopio is more like it!

Hey, you Nokia N800 users. This gonna make you switch? Thought not!

Why would I want to shell out $500-$600 bucks for something that looks like it was ripped off from HPs old sub-subnotebook (I can't recall the model now; someone will dig it up somewhere) and has far less capability than a notebook that costs maybe 1.5-2x as much and can do, minimally, A HUNDRED TIMES MORE?

My Reaction To Palm’s New Foleo Device
http://tinyurl.com/2wxw4s

Next!

BTW: Anyone else notice Mobile Companion has replace Mobile Manager (LifeDrive) in the Palm site sidebar?


Did you notice the lifdrive is no longer for sale on Palm's web site? Any idea's what it means?

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Budget play?

DrewT3 @ 5/30/2007 2:05:00 PM # Q
It looks like this is a low cost laptop. It reportedly weights 2 lbs, so my p1610 with Windows XP is just as portable. So what advantage does the Folio have over my p1610?

- Instant on vs. my 10 second resume from hibernation. Not a big deal when you have to set it up on a surface to type anyway.

- Sync with the Treo's documents and email. My email is always on the server anyway, I just access it via IMAP. So I see no advantage there. It would allow me to keep master copies of documents on the Treo if I want to.

- Price. Folio costs $500, my p1610 cost $1600. That is a big difference.

So the only real advantage is a lower price. For that lower price you lose Windows application compatibility and the ability to use only one computer (assuming you will still keep a desktop somewhere).

I hope Palm is working hard on getting a Remote Desktop client running on this or it will have very limited appeal. I can imagine a remote desktop client running on this tied to something like Amazon's virtual computing services being very cool.

RE: Budget play?
EricsProjects @ 5/30/2007 2:12:31 PM # Q
Considering all the implementations of VNC on Linux, it shouldn't be difficult to find a remote desktop solution.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+vnc&btnG=Google+Search

RE: Budget play?
SeldomVisitor @ 5/30/2007 2:16:25 PM # Q
Nor to program a regular laptop to interact with the same software that's running on all those F-compatible smartphones...

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So How Much Storage

jdc7601 @ 5/30/2007 2:07:02 PM # Q
Does anyone else see that they said that it can take SD or CF cards but they neglected how much storage it contained

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So much for 'pocketable'

rmhurdman @ 5/30/2007 2:08:20 PM # Q
And I wonder if that's a 2.5 mono jack (like my T|C) and if they'll EOL it within the year.
Email over Wi-Fi to come? No hard drive?
So far, this is a device that, by itself, does nothing.

I know they say that they are "actively supporting third-party software developers", but this is one developer who learns from the past. Palm needs a scapegoat to blame for their poor implementation and third party applications have been blamed in the past.

I predict an underwhelming migration of developers and even worse adoption by the non-geeky public. How many people want to drop over $1,000 to get two devices and be tethered to a wireless carrier?

RE: So much for 'pocketable'
painted_dog @ 5/30/2007 10:37:37 PM # Q
...& another great thing is that even though it fits on an airplane tray table, you can't sync it w/ the treo (or other smartphone) as you aren't allowed to use any RF transmissions. (i don't remember seeing IR as an option for Foleo. ... Deo!... er i mean Doh!)

-painted dog

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music and memory?

dustbunny44 @ 5/30/2007 2:08:57 PM # Q
2 questions:
1. will it support/enhance a phone for music playing? The ipod's been successful long enough that they must know music is a big part of people's mobile experience. I don't see anything in the initial release info about music support. Good support for music (how this would work on this device remains to be seen) would help support for the iphone. Jeff indicates they want to support lots of phones, and the initial iphone looks like it might benefit from keyboard support.

2. memory capacity, and can it be upgraded. Kinda goes with #1.

3. throw in a third: 3rd party program support.

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Ya know what's interesting?

SeldomVisitor @ 5/30/2007 2:08:58 PM # Q
At my doctor's office (bunch of doctors in one office, etc) they use devices essentially like this (same size) wirelessly throughout the office space as they and the nursing staff are walking around seeing patients, etc.

Been doing so for years, too.

Damn! What a great idea!

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Third part applications?

naio21 @ 5/30/2007 2:11:27 PM # Q
Linux OS for easy application development

Veeeery easy. LOL!

Ivan

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The Multimedia

snakechung @ 5/30/2007 2:14:04 PM # Q
Can't see any multimedia for this device? It is important for the buyer to choose a new mobile device now.

RE: The Multimedia
hkklife @ 5/30/2007 2:27:21 PM # Q
Oh it comes with a VGA adapter....presumably that means one more proprietary dongle to have to tote around & potentially get lost.

SD & CF slots? Come on, that's redundant. Sure there are plenty of CF peripherals out there but they all require drivers which will never be written for this thing. I'd like to see the CF slot jettisoned, an SDHC slot instead of regular SD (why does everyone but the camera companies refuse to move forward with SDHC?), and 2gb+ of internal flash. And, of course, a $399 or less pricetag without any of those silly mail-in rebates.



Pilot 1000-->Pilot 5000-->PalmPilot Pro-->IIIe-->Vx-->m505-->T|T-->T|T2-->T|C-->T|T3-->T|T5-->TX-->Treo 700P

RE: The Multimedia
averageguy @ 5/30/2007 2:29:16 PM # Q
i work for the lirr and everyone who has a laptop coming home from work is watching movies and listening to music with there laptops. its seems to be pretty important to umwind from work. you need good multimedia in a device.

m125-zire 71-zire 72
"Never pay full price for late pizza" Michelangelo
RE: The Multimedia
AdamaDBrown @ 5/30/2007 6:16:20 PM # Q
hkk, a CF slot supports storage up to 16 GB right now, 32 GB soon, and no known limitations. Still want to toss it? :)

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