Treo Communicator Now Available... Sort Of
Handspring is now taking orders for the Treo Communicator on its U.S. webstore. Despite a message that appears on the site that says the devices are "Now Shipping", further on is a message that says orders placed with Cingular Wireless service plans or without service activation are expected to be delivered within one or two weeks. Orders placed with VoiceStream service plans are expected to begin shipping on February 25. The Treo is $400 with a new service plan or $550 without.
Prices for service depend on the provider and the plan. Handspring has a trade-up offer, good only until March 3, that that will allow current VisorPhone users to buy a Treo for $400 and switch their service plan to the new device.
Both versions of the Treo, with the built-in keyboard and without, are the same price.
Three weeks ago, Handspring CEO Donna Dubinsky revealed that production of the Treo had run into a glitch and the company was going to delay its roll-out in the U.S. At the time, she said the wireless smartphone would be available online in limited quantities in February and in U.S. retail stores in March. A bit over a week ago, Ms. Dubinsky said that the parts shortage that was causing the delay was being cleared up and she believed the Treo would meet that revised schedule. The company has yet to say which vendor caused the problem or what part it is short of.
The Treo uses the GSM standard, which has almost 100% coverage in Europe and is widely used in Asia. The U.S., on the other hand, has a hodge-podge of wireless standards and GSM is available in only a few areas. Handspring is working on a CDMA version of the Treo for the U.S. but it is not yet available and the company will only say it will be out before the end of this year.
Thanks to SaxonMan for the tip. -Ed
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RE: SaxonMan got it from VisorCentral.com
RE: SaxonMan got it from VisorCentral.com
RE: SaxonMan got it from VisorCentral.com
RE: SaxonMan got it from VisorCentral.com
RE: SaxonMan got it from VisorCentral.com
Get a life.
RE: SaxonMan got it from VisorCentral.com
then i clicked on "contribute news" and gave it to ed? anything wrong with that?
btw... i dont visit visorcentral.com. but even if i would- who would care?
regards,
SaxonMan
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RE: SaxonMan got it from VisorCentral.com
service plans
USDollars Cingular
voice 29.99
email 4.95 + .15 per message
SMS 2.99 for first 100 + .10 thereafter per message
At a base rate that's $38 per month.
Why can't they have an unlimited plan for data?!! like Palm.net
It would be wary for datacentric heavy email users.
I guess the carriers have to make $ somehow.
RE: service plans
RE: service plans
> USDollars Cingular
> voice 29.99
> email 4.95 + .15 per message
> SMS 2.99 for first 100 + .10 thereafter per message
> At a base rate that's $38 per month.
True... Plus 0.15 per data minute.
The alternate? Base rate of $35 per month JUST for voice and then you pay Palm (or Omnisky or whomever) another $30 to $40 per month for your data. Looks like the Treo model saves you a lot of $$...
PDA/phonce combo = loser
If you watch the cell phone market right now, the phones are getting smaller and smaller becouse that's what the consumer wants.
still, despite its small size, the Treo is too big by current cell-phone standards. If it gets smaller, it's not practical as a PDA anymore. As it is right now, it will become annoying after the "honeymoon" period of a cool gadget, cause people like to carry their cell phones literaly all-the time as opposed to the PDA (only most of the time) and it's bulky.-(Of course, this doesnt apply to the people posting here :).
Pure human ergonomics.
RE: PDA/phonce combo = loser
I do agree that the Treo is a bit on the large size, for a phone. However, it is smaller than my Visor Deluxe + cable + phone combination!
RE: PDA/phonce combo = loser
I just got a feeling that Treo will get it's ass kicked so badly by nokia and sony/ericsson so badly that it's not even funny.
RE: PDA/phonce combo = Best for now.
The Treo is as good of a compromise as possible as far as size goes. I find it odd that you would complain about it being too big for a phone if you are already carrying a larger Palm. If you are going to own both, why not carry just one small device and save overall space?
I'd love to have the Treo, but I do wish they allowed for enough space for memory-expansion. Looks like I'm not giving up my VisorPhone just yet.
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RE: PDA/phonce combo = loser
RE: PDA/phonce combo = loser
RE: PDA/phonce combo = loser
A MAJORITY (as in, 51% or higher) of people carry their cell phones, and not their PDAs around. Haven't you ever been to an airport (I was in 4 different ones last week) or a mall? Or even McDonald's?
How about the supermarket? Do you see people walking around with their PDAs at the supermarket? Or are they calling their spouses to reaffirm that they were supposed to buy the LARGE-curd cottage cheese?
Even the KIDS are running around with their cell phones on the playground.
When I go to lunch with my friends (I work in an office of 2,000+ people), we certainly don't carry our PDAs around, but *ALL* of us have our cell phones quietly sleeping in our pockets.
If you want to play the game of "unscientific sampling", well.....we can play that game all day.
OPEN YOUR EYES!
RE: PDA/phonce combo = loser
Yeah right, with almost no memory and no way to expand it. Not quite a proper pda imho.
RE: PDA/phonce combo = loser
> quite a proper pda imho.
Are you talking about the Treo or the Nokia here? Oh OK, I guess the Treo probably has more memory.
''One size fits one''
Some people prefer an integrated device, and don't want to carry both their phone and PDA (or, forced to choose between the two, stick with the phone.) Some people want a small phone to carry around always and integration with their PDA sometimes. Others want a Blackberry-like always-on-data PDA.
The beauty of Palm OS is that we are not expected to wait for the uber-device that does all of these things! We can just get the one that fits our lifestyle (and, unlike other vendors' PDA vs. vaporphone offerings, third party application software is compatible across all of them.)
I for one am excited for the Treo, mainly because I know that the minds at Handspring know how to provide a great user experience. I think they did a great job with the UI of the phone part, making it easy to use and providing access to the powerful features that almost all wireless phones have (conference calling, hold, two-way test messaging, etc.) but that are usually too cumbersome to use!
RE: PDA/phonce combo = loser
RE: PDA/phonce combo = loser
"I work for one of Handspring's partners"
"..have every intention of ditching it for the Treo"
"..Handspring hit the sweet spot"
"..I'll shell out my own $$."
"..Go Treo go!"
you are pathetic!
don't be desperate, Treo will be a big hit saving
Handspring from a grim future (present) and you wont get the pink slip
RE: PDA/phonce combo = loser
GPRS
RE: GPRS
I do agree that Handspring needs to get that upgrade out the door ASAP. GPRS is going to be in full swing in Europe way before it is in the U.S. of A. The upgrade makes this a great device. Without it the Treo is just so-so.
RE: GPRS
RE: GPRS
Where does a Treo 180 fit in ? I have no need for such a PDA phone...
RE: GPRS
RE: GPRS
The mail server I am accessing ((city.magnet.at) is NOT the one of my ISP (mail.i-one.at). I am using their mail server only as SMTP for outgoing mail.
RE: GPRS
Let me know when it's $150...
RE: Let me know when it's $150...
RE: Let me know when it's $150...
RE: Let me know when it's $150...
It is? Define "well", because I don't know anyone that has one, or anyone who would probably pay more than $100 for a mobile phone. Especially when you're talking about another $50+ a month in service charges.
You do understand that there are other phones that do similar, or the same things for considerably less don't you? Sure they don't run Palm OS, but even some sub-$100 phones have some of this functionality. From the viewpoint of most people anyhow, the Kyocera looks like a wireless PDA, while the Treo doesn't look that different than the $50 flip phone a freind of mine just got. Sure she'd probably rather have the Treo, but she wouldn't $500 more want the Treo since she'll probably lose it or break it (or it'll be obsolete) in the next year anyhow.
RE: Let me know when it's $150...
Handspring's stock is up 18% today.
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RE: Let me know when it's $150...
It is? Define "well", because I don't know anyone that has one, or anyone who would
probably pay more than $100 for a mobile phone. Especially when you're talking about
another $50+ a month in service charges.
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Well, I don't know about $50/month in service charges, but I paid $170 for my
Nokia 8290 phone about a year ago. I decided if the whole point of a mobile phone
was to carry it around everywhere, I needed one I could fit in my pocket. The other
phones that were close to its size had antennas sticking out. Plus, the 8290 can act
as an wireless IR modem for Palms and laptops, with my current ISP. It was expensive,
but the convenience was worth it.
GSM Coverage in the US
I'd really like to get a Treo, but I'm going to have to switch from Sprint (who I've had mixed results with). I spend almost all of my time in or near cities or on large highways between close cities, so I'm hoping their coverage will be good enough for me. Anyone have any feedback on the two companies' service and coverage?
Thanks.
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