Comments on: Palm Fares Poorly in Latest Smartphone Poll

The Nielsen Company's latest survey results are in and it is not a pretty sight for the Palm and HP faithful. According to the latest numbers revealed by Nielsen on Tuesday, only 1% US consumers surveyed claimed that they were planning on buying a WebOS smartphone. This represents a drop from the 2% responding in Q3 of 2010 when the "Plus" devices were still relatively new to the market and the Pre 2 was waiting in the wings.

In March of 2011, only 2% of those surveyed indicated that they had purchased a WebOS device, in no small part due to the platform's almost non-existence on domestic carriers. As of this writing, new WebOS smartphones are currently only available from Verizon (Pre 2) and AT&T (Pre Plus & Pixi Plus) in the USA, with neither carrier giving much of a promotional push to the devices.

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1% actually sounds a LOT higher than it probably is.

Fake Jeff Hawkins @ 4/29/2011 8:21:28 PM # Q
Think for a minute: how many webOS phones have you seen "in the wild" over the past 2 years? One? Two?

And in that same time how many iPhones have you seen? 1000? 2000?

HP better start putting Veers in every box of Lucky Charms cereal if they don't want webOS to become the new OS/2 or AmigaOS.


RE: 1% actually sounds a LOT higher than it probably is.
LiveFaith @ 4/29/2011 9:07:22 PM # Q
HP's apparent WebOS phone strategy:

#1 Hold gun firmly in right hand

#2 Point gun straight down

#3 Put foot directly under path of barrell

#4 Pull trigger
Pat Horne

RE: 1% actually sounds a LOT higher than it probably is.
rpa @ 4/30/2011 8:31:10 AM # Q
I'm surprised anyone but the hand full of occasional bloggers on this site even remember what Palm is/was.
RE: 1% actually sounds a LOT higher than it probably is.
Fake Jeff Hawkins @ 4/30/2011 9:11:20 AM # Q
Palm Pilots are still well remembered by the public but now are considered an antique among younger (aged under 30) people.

I've started breaking out my old devices (original Pilot, Professional, Palm IIIx, TRGpro, etc. and setting them up around the office and at home as calculators, telephone message pads, etc. While I'm not using 1/10,000th of these device's abilities it's cool to still be able to use 10-15 year old PDAs in normal day to day activities. I predict these devices will eventually experience a "retro" resurgence if they ever get featured in the media.


RE: 1% actually sounds a LOT higher than it probably is.
Fake Jeff Hawkins @ 4/30/2011 9:28:42 AM # Q
Right now the only thing that could sage webOS is the fact that HP is such a massive company that they can get webOS out and EVERYWHERE in a very short period of time. Putting it on every HP desktop = instant mindshare. The next step is subsidizing webOS phones (Veer has to be free with contract) and tablets (TouchPad has to be MUCH cheaper than iPad). And the OS has to be as stable as iOS from Day 1.

I think HP should buy RIM and settle on a platform that integrates the QNX AND webOS bases. That would give their phone lineup instant credibility and would provide the marketshare HP needs to sustain a new OS strategy.

Fixed it for you, brah...
Fake Jeff Hawkins @ 4/30/2011 9:34:13 AM # Q
HP's apparent WebOS phone strategy:

#1 Hold gun firmly in right hand

#2 Point gun straight into mouth

#3 Put head directly under path of barrell

#4 Pull trigger

Pat Horne & special guest star,FJH

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ATTN Kris Keilhack: Keep up the good work posting to PIC!

Fake Jeff Hawkins @ 4/29/2011 8:25:42 PM # Q
Looks like you're the last one left keeping Palminfocenter on life support! Thanks for your tireless work over the years posting so many great articles to PIC.

Don't give up!


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A niche for HP

Tuckermaclain @ 5/1/2011 9:32:50 PM # Q
Now would be a perfect time to launch a phone that will neither save information nor spy on the user in any way. I'm sure it could be done by HP with just a small tweak. Helluva good advertising idea, IMO. Right now with people fed up of being sick and tired of being lied to by corps and governments it would be the new "cool" phone. A hip, easy way to protest. What do you guys think?
RE: A niche for HP
Gekko @ 5/2/2011 5:56:13 AM # Q

nobody cares. in fact, these kids today are all purposely "checking in" and tweeting/facebooking/foursquaring/lattituding their locations and visits 24/7.

"People say they want privacy but then sign up for such an intrusive service as this. This is a tool to further the POLICE STATE. What a bunch of morons." forteaneye

"The sheep won't even need a chip implanted--they'll carry it around like status symbol." JAFOAgain

RE: A niche for HP
HyperScheduler @ 5/2/2011 8:23:43 AM # Q
I do believe that the launch of a phone from a company that openly bragged that their phone will neither save information or spy on the user would be HUGE draw. Unfortunately, I do not believe that any company has the courage to do so.
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Time Is Running Out

SFO_TXUSR @ 5/2/2011 9:04:09 AM # Q
HP just needs to deliver SOMETHING NOW! They had this big announcement earlier this year and at the moment, there are still no firm dates on when this stuff will be in the hands of consumers. Everyone else have announced new product, stated when they will be available and started delivering (admittedly with some delays). HP has only announced. The consumer is moving on already.
RE: Time Is Running Out
HyperScheduler @ 5/2/2011 10:42:09 AM # Q
I used to agree that HP just needed to present *anything* already. . .

. . . until the Motorola Xoom and, even worse, the RIM Playbook.

Even though I cannot--repeat, cannot--understand HP's reason for delay, I do support the delay in order to avoid what is happening with the other rushed tablets.

RE: Time Is Running Out
hkklife @ 5/2/2011 11:53:47 AM # Q
Has this been the year of half-baked devices or what?

Actually, we had all of the half-baked WebOS devices in 2009-2010, then we had all of these new Android devices still running 2.1 and brand-new, not-yet-released flagship handsets shipping with 2.2. Add to that the buggy, nearly-beta state of Honeycomb on the Xoom and the horrible Playbook and you have a landscape where the only things that look truly polished are iOS, Mac OS devices and Windows 7 devices. Sad, sad, sad.

Unless AT&T pulls out some kind of magnificent plan for the Veer (free tethering + unlimited voice/data for $70/month or some such), it's gonna be DOA. In many respects, it's a big step backwards from the Pixi (smaller screen, same resolution, less battery capacity, no removable battery, no 3.5mm jack, no microUSB port). So other than the camera, OS and CPU boost, I don't see any reason to get one of these at all, certainly not under a 2yr contract. If this puppy was a $150 Virgin Mobile special, maybe.
Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p->Verizon Moto Droid + Verizon Palm Centro-> Verizon Moto Droid X + Palm TX

RE: Time Is Running Out
Gekko @ 5/2/2011 11:58:08 AM # Q

time ran out long ago.

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