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The ads, which will appear on TV, radio, magazines, newspapers and the Internet, will showcase the Palm OS and the many applications it can run. They will feature shots of Palm apps in front of people and landscapes without any Palm hardware appearing at all. "We're repositioning ourselves as the leading mobile platform provider," said Satjiv Chahil, Palm's chief marketing officer.
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Put money into development, not advertising
Where are the exciting new products? From what I've been reading, the biggest innovations from Palm and its licensees won't take place for another two years! What's going on here?
RE: Put money into development, not advertising
Now, two years later, I'm looking for something with more. I want multimedia support. I want to record voice memos. I want color. And I want enough ram to actually do something.
Where can I find that now? In a Compaq iPaq. And it seems inevitable that I will get one. Why? Because it has terrific application support? No. Because it is rock stable? No. Because it is faster with more features? Yes. I love my Palm, and if there was any way around it, I would buy another. But, I'll probably have to wait two or three years to get the features that are NOW available in a PPC.
I'm tired of Palm and Handspring nickle and dimeing us with 'oooo! 8 Megs of ram!', or 'oooo! 16 bit color!'. They need some real advances, or they're going to give up their market.
RE: Put money into development, not advertising
Handspring really isn't much better. All they have done is offer a Palm clone with a proprietary expansion format that uses modules that cost more than the base unit itself. The MP3 players cost nearly $300. Yatch!
As for the iPAQ/Pocket PC...I'll wait for the prices to come down a little bit before I would consider getting one. But I don't see how I will be able to resist getting one if we don't see anything radically new from Palm or its partners next year.
RE: Put money into development, not advertising
aren't electronics enthusiasts) think is important. Thus a PDA with all the latest bells and whistles
that costs $400-$500 is going to seem like a colossal waste of money to a businessperson who just
wants something to replace their paper scheduler. If you want to play MP3s and watch movies on
your PDA, go buy an iPAQ and quit whining about Palm's lack of support for those activities. But no-one
who just needs an organizer (90% of Pam's target market sector) is going be able to justify buying a
PDA that costs more than your average stereo system or DVD player. By the time the price of the
color screens and fast mobile processors drops enough to make them attractive to the average consumer,
I think you'll discover that Palm has caught up with the PocketPC crowd in terms of power and multimedia
features.
I gave a Palm IIIx to my mother for her birthday last year, and she doesn't care that it has a B/W display
and only 4 Mb of RAM or a processor that's not state-of-the-art. She's just delighted not to have to carry
a paper address book and organizer around whereever she goes. The Palm weighs less, is smaller and has
enough memory to store her addresses, appointments and the entire NKJV version of the Bible with plenty
of space left over. She'll probably be using it for the next 4 years or so, if it lasts that long and never
even consider using it to play MP3s or watch video.
Criticizing a Palm for it's lack of multimedia features is like comparing a car to a plane and criticizing the car
because it can't fly. Cars aren't designed for the enthusiast but for the consumer, so they're mass-produced
and incorporate only those features that the vast majoity of people will need in order to keep the cost down,
while airlplanes are much more expensive and more difficult to use safely, but offer features unavailable in a
more economical mode of transportation.
RE: Put money into development, not advertising
I could list all of the failed technology products that I really enjoyed using which failed because they weren't marketed correctly, but I won't because it would probably fill the server up.
So here's a few:
Amiga, OS/2, GeoWorks for PC, DR-DOS, DesQview, 3DO, and once at near-death, Macintosh.
Today, I sit on a Windows PC because Commodore, IBM, and GeoWorks didn't put enough effort into marketing their superior technology. So the average, uninformed consumer (those would be people who don't read websites like this one, for example), used Windows because they thought it was the only thing or the best thing out there.
It's sad but true: people only buy the stuff that's most heavily promoted, regardless of whether or not it's the best product available. (another example: do you _really_ think people listen to Britney Spears or the Backstreet Boys because they're great musicians?) No one researches technology purchases unless you're in the technology field, and it's naive to expect that people are going to start now. Think _broad market_: Palms should be as ubiquitous as wallets are, and the only way they'll get there is with great marketing.
I really enjoy using my Palm; it's the first computer since Amiga that I actually enjoy using. I'd hate to see it disappear for the same reason that Amiga, OS/2, and GeoWorks did: poor marketing.
I don't think they could spend enough money on marketing, in fact. Marketing gets people to use your product, and having lots of people use your product gives you money. It's pretty hard to go out of business or run out of development funds when a zillion people use your stuff.
So, kudos to Palm for having the foresight to increase the longitivity of the platform with a solid marketing plan that will increase revenue so Palm can keep developing new products or develop them faster. It's great to see them avoid the mistake that has killed 'technologically superior' platforms like Amiga, OS/2, and GeoWorks in the past.
RE: Put money into development, not advertising
Think about it. You have a big pile of money. and a smaller pile of money is given to you every month. If you spend money on development, then sure, you end up with a better product but your BIG pile has become much smaller and the small piles coming in every month aren't enough to keep the BIG pile from getting smaller!
INSTEAD, spend money from the BIG pile to market and attract MANY more consumers. The monthly small piles become larger piles to the point where you can now spend money on development but your original BIG pile isn't getting smaller!
GEEZ! it's common business logic. get it? Sorry to all for the 'simple' example but some people obviously haven't studied anything more complex than running a sidewalk lemon-aid stand.
Micorsoft is HUGE! Let's get Palm up there before we start criticizing Palm for not producing or behaving like Microsoft (which i'm SURE glad they aren't....i'm a stockholder too.)
As a Palm owner and a stockholder...
Nice
What a joke
RE: What a joke
A: The whole reason Palm is awesome is because it gives people like you and me the ability to deveelop and share sortware - and it provides the OS. If they had a team of lets say 20 developers, would that limit the software output? Instad there are tens of thousands of people who have access to all the tools and software they need.
B: They need advertising. They need people to know that the Palm isn't an exspensive caculator & address book.
-Seething Hebrew, NYC
RE: What a joke
A: The whole reason Palm is awesome is because it gives people like you and me the ability to deveelop and share software - and it provides the OS. If they had a team of lets say 20 developers, wouldn't that limit the software output? Instead there are tens of thousands of people who have access to all the tools and software they need to develop and customize their Palms.
B: They need advertising. They need people to know that the Palm isn't an exspensive caculator & address book.
-Seething Hebrew, NYC
Now that's pretty funny...
Great news. Now your sister will understand too...
The many Palm developers will be thrilled with this: after all, Palm has not done much to acknowledge that the Palm is more than a "connected organizer" up to now. The "Visor is ..." campaign from Handspring is in this same vein--stressing the flexibility of the system in addition to the solid foundation of ease-of-use.
Now, if Handango and PalmGear could get their software search and sort systems figured out so that looking for a reasonable app didn't induce eerie recollections of lycos searches from 4 years ago...
I think creation of a consumer brand is exactly what is needed next. The word of mouth has already carried Palm deep into the culture (Dilbert, Letterman, etc.) so that the populace is primed to receive a message relaying the "brand promise" of Palm. Based on Palm's 2 billion dollar annual sales run rate expected inthis quarter, 100 million is a reasonable figure, too. There is still plenty of money to spend on Palm@Palm research, development tools improvement, and platform support services like the new Developer's Nation program.
I look forward to the future.
Whatever...
Palm IIIr - a palm with a reflective color LCD like the game boy color.
Palm Vc - palm vx with a IIIc's screen.
Palm VIIc - a vii with a color screen
Palm X - a Palm with MP3 audio, voice recording, a 320x240 color 16-bit screen, a headphone jack, wireless internet capabilities, and a compact-flash slot like the PPC.
When will Palm realize that Microsoft's PPC threat to their economy is large? Time to step away from obscurity, Palm. You need to be able to have your OS support the budget-minded users as well as the power users. I had an HP Jornada 548 and got rid of it for this Vx because Palm was on the rise. Maybe Microsoft's PPC is the evil empire to Palm, but it is eye candy compared to what's up now. Try new hardware, Palm. Not your OS.
RE: Whatever...
Palm Device - these guys make hardware and LICENSE the OS from Palm Platform (below)
Palm Platform - these guys own the OS and the software and LICENSE it to multiple LICENSEES such as Palm Device, Handspring, Sony, Nokia, Motorola, Symbol etc
Palm.net - these guys own the Palm.net service, and everything that revolves around it
So the advertising is specifically the Palm Platform guys getting some limelight - 'bout time too. People need to realise that Palm are more than just hardware - and that it's the software that actually makes it all tick!
Good move guys - I applaud it, as both a Palm device owner (multiple licensees), and as a Palm stock holder.
IdeaAdvisor.com's Opinion
http://biz.yahoo.com/oo/001101/43228.html
Basically, the writer thinks Palm is a bit premature with this move, considering that licensing accounts for only 10% of their revenue.
I disagree but the editorial is interesting.
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Plenipotentiary
Palm Infocenter
Nope, wrong move.
RE: Nope, wrong move.
palm now-pocket pc later
Money is not the issue
Don't forget that Palm has a huge war chest from it's IPO -- 900+ million dollars!
This ad campaign will barely dent it. More ads means more sales, more sales means more developers, more developers means more applications, more applications means more sales...you get the idea...
RE: Money is not the issue
That Chahill guy drove apple into the ground and left right before they made a comeback, coincidence, I think not. He was director of marketing and made MORONIC commercials that made most people go: what the hell would I want a mac for? They emphasized ZERO of the reasons why anyone would want to buy a mac and he'll do the same dynamic job for the palm platform.
I'd say the number one reason that palm is making any money right now is that the devices are so fragile that people go through them quickly and have to buy another. Most people I know buy 1 palm a year as opposed to a computer which is more like 1 every 2 or 3 years because palm screens break so easily.
If there's any money to be made by advertising, it would be by Compaq who makes such an amazing iPaq handheld that makes even a color palm look silly. Of course the demand for the ipaq is so high right now that ads would only make the backorders longer...
Palm needs LESS ads and MORE development. If they're going to bet the company on the os, they're going to LOSE eventually unless they do something real soon.
RE: Money is not the issue
That Chahill guy drove apple into the ground and left right before they made a comeback, coincidence, I think not. He was director of marketing and made MORONIC commercials that made most people go: what the hell would I want a mac for? They emphasized ZERO of the reasons why anyone would want to buy a mac and he'll do the same dynamic job for the palm platform.
I'd say the number one reason that palm is making any money right now is that the devices are so fragile that people go through them quickly and have to buy another. Most people I know buy 1 palm a year as opposed to a computer which is more like 1 every 2 or 3 years because palm screens break so easily.
If there's any money to be made by advertising, it would be by Compaq who makes such an amazing iPaq handheld that makes even a color palm look silly. Of course the demand for the ipaq is so high right now that ads would only make the backorders longer...
Palm needs LESS ads and MORE development. If they're going to bet the company on the os, they're going to LOSE eventually unless they do something real soon.
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on the right track...
Anyway... rant mode off...
This is what I figured Palm would end up doing anyway, what with all the licensing they are doing with the OS.
-Greg