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There will be two versions of this device, monochrome and 16-bit color. The monochrome version won't weigh more than 3.25 ounces, about an ounce less than the current Palm V series. The color version will weigh between 3.9 and 4.3 ounces and use flexible lithium-polymer batteries. It is 1 mm thicker than the current Palm V.
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RE: French Palm Prices
Therefore, the Vc is a little more than 2.5% more expensive than the Vx (as it is above), however one must take into account that the Vx comes with a case that is already added into that given price.
I'll follow up if I get anything else.
Eric
RE: French Palm Prices
Using that as a thumb-rule, I'd say that the color version will debut in the U.S. at about $500 and the monochrome at about $400. This is pretty much what I expected and good news for me. I think I'm going to spring for the color version but not at over $600.
To give this some perspective, the current Vx is $400. The Visor Prism costs $450.
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RE: French Palm Prices
just my 2 francs
RE: French Palm Prices
Vx is waaay overpriced.
RE: French Palm Prices
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RE: French Palm Prices
I just did this morning and am waiting for estimated ship next week.
Good Luck.....
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Palm Vc/m505
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The enhancements of these units are many. The alarm system will now have a flashing
power button and a vibrator for a silent alarm. The will be a much smaller expansion
pack on the back of the unit in which many things will fit, ranging for a digital camera
to a 256k back memory card to a number of Sega gaming cards. These cards will be
about ¼ the size of the ones used on the Handspring. The left had rail will be smaller
than that of the V and Vx. Palm has also built a feature to dial phone numbers out of
the address book and beam the command to you cellular phone. After a "hard reset"
you will have the option to restart the palm in a number of languages. The Battery
power claims to be longer and the weight lighter. On the m505 the screen will be
65k color just like its competitor the Prism, and on the m505 it will be a regular
plasma screen. The price on the m505 is $449us and $399us on the m500,
Also for any one interested in exactly two weeks palm will release the m105. This unit
is just like the palm m100 yet comes with a bundled cradle and 8mg of memory, that
is basically the only change. The price on this unit is $199us
Feel free to ask or inquire upon this statement. I will reply.
RE: Palm Vc/m505
How reliable is your source for the pricing. Thanks.
RE: Palm Vc/m505
Trust me on the pricing, I can't reveal the source of my knowledge, sorry
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RE: Palm Vc/m505
informer**
will be able to run this cradle is 4.0.1. Also, I am unsure what you mean by m100s fitting
into a III and VII cradle, this does not work without tape; so in regard to the question on
standerdizing the cradles I honestly doubt that any unit will work in the m500 series cradles
except for of course the m500 and m505.
As far as the release date, I am unsure. I don't even think that Palm corprate is sure yet.
They would like it to be around the end of March but I don't know if they are going to make
it. I WILL let you guys know when I know. Regarding the quanity, lets hope that they have
it under control. Corprate is not planing any "limited addition palm frenzy" I am sure they
are doing there best to cover their bases. They have said that they plan a "worldwide
release date" as in comercials, web banners and emials sent out all in the same hour of one
day...... I have no idea how well this is going to work, mainly because of people like me.
Checking Messages Daily,
Your Informer**
Informer**
question. I will find out tonight for you. I know that all accs. will now be attached through
the top of the unit as you know; so I am unsure if much anything will attach there. Anyway
give me 12 hours to figure that out for you.
RE: Palm Vc/m505
informer**
RE: Palm Vc/m505
i've used one.
its memory is also non flash upgradable
RE: Informer**
So thanks a ton for all the info you gave us. I really appreciate it and I'm sure everyone else does, too.
If there is ever want to contact me directly with pictures or other stuff you might learn, my e-mail address is ed@palminfocenter.com.
Thanks again.
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RE: Palm Vc/m505
Additional function in the Graffiti area ?
RE: Additional function in the Graffiti area ?
RE: Additional function in the Graffiti area ?
Informer**
You guys should know that.
~Your Informer**
RE: Additional function in the Graffiti area ?
Matt.
informer**
The m505 will also need a funtion to change the brightness of the screen. It
may have a clock function on it, but the palm OS always has a clock on the
applications screen. I have not had any "hands on" with these units YET but
when I have I will let you know, I think I should know alot more in about 24hrs.
I will let you Matt if I find out.
RE: Additional function in the Graffiti area ?
I LIVE IN ISRAEL AND I WAS IN PALM PRESENTION IN THE LAST MOTNTH, I KNOW ALL ABOUT THE NEW M505 COUSE I WORKED WITH HIM THERE !
THE LITTLE CIRCLE WILL BE A SIMPLE ALARM PROGRAM THAT WILL BE IN-BOARD THE PALM M505.
Watch out Palm!
RE: Watch out Palm!
RE: Watch out Palm!
RE: Watch out Palm!
This doesn't refer to all PPC users, most of whom are fine people. I'm referring to pinheads like this guy, who feel so insecure that they need to convince other people to believe the same things that they do. If the situation was a cut-and-dried as they think it is (PPC rules, Palm drools!) then more people would agree with them without their sophomoric comments.
Oh well, I guess every society needs a village idiot.
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RE: Watch out Palm!
I develop on both platforms - and everything being said in here is true: that the PPC SUCKS memory and that the Palms handle memory extraordinarily efficiently.
SO?
Both platforms will attract their own style of user - if we all stick to open architectures both may actually survive a long time - but traditionally only one wins... which is why we develop on both platforms (!)
It's way too early to foresee any side giving in to the other - CE is gaining ground from business users, Palm's maintain a leadership role in the general community - killer apps, there aren't any... so: live and let live...
...............a PPC owner isn't your enemy, he's someone to be sympathized with and nurtured from the dark side until Microsoft see the error of their ways and try, at least attempt, to reduce the bloatware they can't help but to produce.
My 2Francs worth!
Niggle
RE: Watch out Palm!
Informer**
The price of the m500 will be $399us
The price of the m105 will be $199us
RE: Watch out Palm!
i've seen them for $449 at numerous retailers.
of course you shouldn't spend $600
It's time to strike back!
RE: It's time to strike back!
Palm still gets money for the devices that are sold under another company with PalmOS. Yes, it must be significantly less than actually selling the device themselves, but think of it this way: Palm did not spend money on R&D for that device, nor did they have to spend money to actually make it, nor did they have to spend money on marketing it, etc.
And besides, I've never seen Palm actively market their products against those of their licensee competitors.
Eric
RE: It's time to strike back!
Palm is the tool to get it done (with the necessary storage space to allow these scenarios to come to life).
Taken from story at http://www.palmloyal.com/article.php?sid=48&mode=thread&order=0
RE: It's time to strike back!
The point is, the PPC NEEDS more RAM, because it's windows stuff, which is all bloated and buggy. :P an 8 or 16 meg PPC is like a 2 meg palm. It can be used efficiently, but you're dying for more RAM to install apps that you DON'T use all the time (games, tools, other fun stuff). You're comparing apples to oranges, and anyone who says Palm's need more RAM to compete with 16 and 32meg PPC devices just doesn't understand the real differences.
Yes, I have a Palm (V, only 2megs) and an HP Jornada (32 megs and a CF slot), so don't tell me I don't have any experience to back it up.
RE: It's time to strike back!
Another point is having several competing vendors increases consumer confidence in the future of the platform and the number of software vendors. Competition tends to keep the manufacturers on their toes.
RE: It's time to strike back!
The fact is that Palm are way behind with their included apps. Palm has no Text editor, PPC has Word. palm has no SpreadSheet, PPC has Excel, Palm has no Ebook reader, PPC has MSReader, Palm has no Modem email app, PPC has Inbox. Palm has no Finance software (Expence doesn't count coz it crap and no one uses it), PPC has MSMoney.
So go and spend over 100$ on MegaDoc,, QuickSheet, MultiMailPro, PocketQuicken, stick them on a 2meg Palm, THEN compare free space between it and a PPC which will still have an empty RAM. And don't start talking about the amount of apps available for the Palm, coz it's not that different to the PPC when you look at worthwhile apps. PalmGear is full of ebooks, templates for DB apps, cheap PDAToolbox generated stuff that anyone could knock up in an hour. I will admit that there is still more descent software available for the Palm, just not as much as everyone thinks there is. I am both a Palm and a PPC user, I just think that the Palms stability, simplicity and software selection is well over estimated.
The End.
Ste S
RE: It's time to strike back!
Yeah, but PPC's PIM functions suck, and that is the main use for a device such as this. No fancy feature can compensate for the PPC's memory hogging, poor interface, poor reliability, and limited synchronization options.
"Palm has no Modem email app, PPC has Inbox."
Palm does have email app, and PPC's Inbox only works with MS Outlook (not Outlook Express), which many people don't need or like.
"So go and spend over 100$ on MegaDoc,, QuickSheet, MultiMailPro, PocketQuicken, stick them on a 2meg Palm, THEN compare free space between it and a PPC which will still have an empty RAM."
Hahahahaha!!!!!!!! I've never worried about memory with a Palm, but my PPC has NEVER had memory to spare! It's a slow, buggy, resource hog that doesn't even have enough memory to handle half the apps included in the box. Worse yet, while you can add storage via an expensive memory card, you can never increase the amount of operating RAM, which as I already stated, is too little for the PPC.
"And don't start talking about the amount of apps available for the Palm, coz it's not that different to the PPC when you look at worthwhile apps."
Most of PPC's apps are only nice on paper, but are worthless in real world use. Just try to use a spreadsheet in that tiny window with that slow OS! Just try to use Pcoetk Streets, and realize that it is so crippled due to licensing restrictions that it is virtually useless. Just try to put an hours worth of MP3s in a memory card and still have room for data and apps. Just try to make any practical use of PPC using that horrible interface that lacks close buttons on apps and even lacks a task switcher!
RE: It's time to strike back!
professional Handheld NEC 780 and A Palm, I just one to stress one single point, try sincronizin with another application other than OUTLOOK, for the Addressbook, (which I do not use or like) and then syncronize with activesync and see what happens?!!!
All your applications stop syncrozicing forcing you to only use MS applications for MS products.
With Palm operating system you can syncronize with whatever you want to, including WordPerfect!!!
That and portability have my Handheld on the box ready to be sold.
I first bought the Sony Clie then the m505. This decision was made after playing with all the pocket pc's in stores, yes they are impresive at first sight, but when they come to functionability it just does not compensate.
As it was said before, all devices have its people. Palm just happens to be for me, small to fit in my purse, simple and fast!!!
Maddie!!
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OMG, I can't F'ing WAIT!!!!!
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French Palm Prices
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X 399
where $399 is the price for the current Vx, and X is the projected price of the new one, then the new m505 should roughly cost $493US or more likely than not, $500 for the color. Hope this makes sense and I'm not just an arrogant retard. Good day all
RE: French Palm Prices
Take any US dollar price of any desirable electrical/computer gadget and it will be the dollar amount in pounds in the UK, which would not equate to the dollar-pound exchange rate.
Like DVD region codes the manufacturers have pricing regions and charge whatever the market in a given region can stand.
If they don't squeal when you give them the price you ain't charged enough!
Glad I got my Prism
RE: Glad I got my Prism
RE: Glad I got my Prism
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1549&MODE=FLAT
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Syncplicity. Redefining Simple. www.cognitiveroot.com
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Double the Flash RAM
Did anyone stop to notice that Palm are up'ing their Flash RAM? Wouldn't this be a good place to store the "text" editor, Spreadsheet, email, internet stuff etc. Then we wouldnt have to pay for extra and use up our RAM, the fuctionalty would be straight out of the box.
Phil
RE: Double the Flash RAM
RE: Double the Flash RAM
they are) because they expect OS 4.x/5.x to be much
bigger but that's a shame. I have a 2MB Palm V. If I
was given a choice of another an extra 6MB of Flash
or 6MB or RAM, I'd go for the Flash! I've never found
an app that doesn't run out of Flash and a lot of my
data is read-only (enovels, maps, dictionaries). Flash
is ideal for this stuff and it survives a hard reset.
I think it's a big shame that Palm isn't much more
aggressive with it's Flash sizes.
RE: Double the Flash RAM
Kyle
Go to http://www.palm.com/products/palmm505 for details
Palm wish-list
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Sure, the Palm could use a nicer, higher-resolution screen and perhaps some more versatility. But at least it's dependable, easy to use, and it excels at its primary function as a PIM (personal information manager.)
The PocketPC sucks dogs. Its PIM is a nightmare to use(for example, contacts only sorted by last name, not company!) It is buggy, slow, a memory hog, and only syncs with Microsoft Outlook (not even w/Outlook Express.) If anyone want a detailed list of everything I hate about PocketPC, just email (palminfocenter@jetaerospace.com) me and I'll send you a list..
RE: Palm wish-list
Compiled Data Sheet for m505
http://www.JFM3.com">JFM3.com
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Palm m505 color pricing
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Perhaps I can get an exact date for you soon.
Anyone wanting the exact date may post their e-mail address / ICQ UIN. If you are cautious about doing so on forums, I will not be able to contact you w/o that info as I am hesitant about posting it to large groups.
RE: Palm m505 color pricing
Where to get Secure Digital cards!!!!????
RE: Where to get Secure Digital cards
http://www.prodcat.panasonic.com/shop/listmodels.asp?categoryid=1516
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Palm M505 pricing
you shouldn't forget the TAX, which is in europe normally included in the listprice a little bit different to US where you have to pay local tax.
The german local TAX is 16% .
Palm M505 & NWireless
Ed Hudley
Dechert
ehudley@dechert.com
Palm Vc\m505
I have a Palm IIIc which works perfectly well. As far as I can see this new gadget doesn't do anything extra.
Are we talking "Emperor's New Clothes" here?
Martin
RE: Palm Vc\m505
+ 16 bit (65K ) vs 8bit (256) color
+ new battery
+ metal case
+ SD slot
+ 4MB flash vs 2MB flash
+ OS 4 vs OS 3.5
Some rumored additions are a vibrating alarm and reflective TFT (instead of the transmissive TFT).
Palm M505 Sound Question for the INFORMER
Will the NEW Palm M505 have a better loudspeaker like the Pocket PCs? If it is supposed to be able to have movie playback, multimedia and MP3 capabilities then surely a new imporved loud speaker is called for.
The current palms have a terribly hopeless speaker and even the alarm is not loud enough!
Thanks.
I own one because I work at palm and developed it
RE: I own one because I work at palm and developed it
Reflective TFT screen - can it be viewed outside.
This is the one thing keeping me from a color model since I work outside most of the time.
RE: Reflective TFT screen - can it be viewed outside.
The bad news is it looks bad inside under normal light conditions unless a sidelight is on.
Readability of my iPAQ w/o sidelight is worst than a Palm V on the inside.
My concern is the M505 will not have a sidelight or will come with a sidelight but with
very poor battery life. If the M505 does come with a sidelight, the purpose of the light will probably
be for near darkness and not for regular inside conditions. If this is so, people will be very
disappointed because a reflective screen w/o sidelight is not bright and the colors are drab.
In other words, it will not have near the brightness or vibrant colors that the IIIc and Prism have
inside. This is all assuming the M505 screen will be like the iPAQ screen.
Ram
M505 (almost) at G4store.com
Neil, thank you for your message from The G4 Store!
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Thanks again, and look forward to seeing you soon at The G4 Store!
Scott Carr
The G4 Store
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New Louder quality SPEAKER ??
Wil the new Palm m505 have a new louder quality loudspeaker like the Pocket PC's?
Its about time they did so that we can hear the sound from movies or even the alarm!
If it doesn't im going straight to Pocket PC... stuff this Palm junk..
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M505 Lithium Polymer Battery
m505 beaming
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Just a thought....
Palm 505 rom image download
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RE: Palm 505 rom image download
you might try asking someone who owns a palm 505 if the can send it to you.
-R4JC
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Re: IIIc vs 505
i want extensive memory for all my programs, compactabilaty, color, and to know that within a year my pda will not be obsolete.
(sad story)a long long long time ago, in a electronic store far far away i bought the palm pilot pro. i was told that this would meet all my needs and i would be able to add memory if need to be. well, within 3 weeks the model was discontinued and all its accessories were gone. so what did i do, buy a pen and paper calender... until i saw the IIIc (WOW)! well i forked out the $449 bucks and hoped that it would help me out. but i've ran into memory problems, and carrying it around worrying it being damaged.
now the 505... hopefully it is compact enough the carry, has enough memory, and will be around for along time.
anyone know when they will be at frys electronics or staples?
~e
I GOT ONE
Setting it up now. Very sexy up close. A little heavier than my palm vx but fit the hand the same.
screen is great but the "squishy" feel of it will take some getting used to. not to great in the dark. frontlighting leaves something to be desired initially.
will update more later.
joey
SNAKE
game via IR, I have seen many a Snake style game and know that the palm can
use the IR port for virtually anything, so why can someone not make the two player
game so that we can play against a nokia user at Snake with out palms
Jim
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French Palm Prices
Trouble is, the French Palm site (http://www.palm.com/europe/fr_french/index.html) doesn't list prices. Can anyone please tell me what any new Palm costs in France?
Thanks.
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