Comments on: m505 Still 404 for Many

Wednesday of this week, the first shipments of m505s appeared at Office Depot stores and almost instantly were snapped up. While this has made many people happy new m505 owners, a majority of seekers are still hoping for the next shipment.

Judy Bruner, Palm's Chief Financial Officer, said that current shipments of the m505 are not enough to meet demand and higher volume shipments aren't expected until the end of this month or the beginning of next.

Read the Full Article Text Here

Article Comments

(149 comments)

The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. PalmInfocenter is not responsible for them in any way.
Please Login or register here to add your comments.

Comments Closed
This article is no longer accepting new comments.

404

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 10:56:38 AM #

I hadn't heard that before "still 404" - cute.

RE: 404

Ed @ 5/4/2001 11:00:49 AM #

Thanks. I promise I made it up myself and I'm quite proud of it.

---
Plenipotentiary
Palm Infocenter

RE: 404

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 1:49:52 PM #

"Still 404" is cute- but what does it mean?

RE: 404

Admin @ 5/4/2001 1:56:32 PM #

404 as in the http error for a "page not found",
it's the message you see when you click on a bad link.

------
Ryan
PalmInfocenter webmaster
webmaster@palminfocenter.com

RE: 404

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 10:15:38 PM #

Hey guys.

Got my Palm m505 yesterday in Toronto, Canada. The screen looks GREAT, better then the Palm Vx that I have. It look amazing. Trust me guys.

505 for sale @ my cost

Chromosome @ 5/4/2001 11:03:17 PM #

I'm disappointed that I can't store huge DBs on the SD/MMC. I'm not willing to wait for fixes to trickle in. Like it, but I'll keep my trusty Vx just the same. I paid 475 (w/tax) and 65 for a 32MB MMC. Shipping should cost about 25. I'll send it all to you for 565. I'm not trying to gouge fellow palm enthusiasts, I'm just offering it if nobody can find one. If nobody wants it I'll return it. You can store copyrighted material on MMC by removing the copyright with Z'Cat (already done it). I'll leave Z'Cat and my copy of the infamous HaCkMe on the unit. (See the infocenter story on HaCkMe-which was so cool it was pulled off PalmGear after several hours) By the way, I contributed that story--first time I ever got a letter published (I'm so proud). send inquires to tuckermaclain@yahoo.com

Chromosome

RE: 404

Chromosome @ 5/4/2001 11:50:54 PM #

Just sold it.

Chromosome

404

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 11:02:54 AM #

Even 404 is still better than:

500 Internal Error
501 Not Implemented
415 Unsuported Media Type (not SD or what?)
416 Requested Range Not Satisfiable

Anyway is 402 Payment Required, and it's not 403 Forbidden.

And let's hope is not 417 - Expectation Failed

Cheers,
Dan.

RE: 404

jayhawk88 @ 5/4/2001 12:09:47 PM #

Heh. Love that geek humor :)

RE: 404

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 12:14:38 PM #

Hillarious!

RE: 404

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 6:56:58 PM #

I understand WAY to much of this humor, I gotta get a life! :)

Check out Fry's

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 11:19:59 AM #

Was at a Fry's yesterday (wilsonville, or) and they had at least 20 505's on the shelf.

RE: Check out Fry's

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 3:20:35 PM #

Same for the Fry's in Sacramento. I was there last night. They has one on display and SEVERAL available.

RE: Check out Fry's

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 4:33:00 PM #

Just bought one today in the Fountain Valley (Orange Co.) Fry's store. I guess it was
the last one. I just called them and they held it for me.

I'm a Visor Deluxe owner, but I'm am gonna keep this M505. Visor goes to the spouse.
Yes the screens not as bright as a IIIc, but I found it very usable under
office lighting, and I don't think I need to use Glowhack. Turning the frontlight on does
give a nice even glow. Walking in the outside sun, screen is great.

So they're out there, just call around.

Got in in Canada (Quebec city)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 11:29:16 AM #

Available at "Bureau en gros" in Quebec City (STAPLES)

No one else as them, not even the major distributor like INGRAM, MERISSEL...

I guess I’m lucky

By the way it is great!

I sold my Vx 3 weeks ago hand I’m beginning to get my life back with my new 505

RE: Got in in Canada (Quebec city)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 7:54:22 PM #

Got mine in Montreal- Bureau en Gros (Staples). It's in the charger right now. How come it takes two hours to recharge ????? Wayyyyyy too long of a wait...

And where are the Serial Cradles??

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 11:42:37 AM #

I was lucky enough to pick one of the few 505's up at OD, but cannot find a Serial Cradle anywhere in stock, at OD or Palm.com either. Anyone heard any info on when the Serial Cradles might be shipping?

RE: And where are the Serial Cradles??

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 11:47:51 AM #

RCS in NYC had 'em and ran out.

RE: And where are the Serial Cradles??

Ed @ 5/4/2001 11:48:23 AM #

I ordered one from Sparco yesterday. I just checked and I have a UPS tracking number so it is legit.

http://www.sparco.com/cgi-bin/wfind2?spn=A412018

---
Plenipotentiary
Palm Infocenter

RE: Serial Cradles

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 4:47:26 PM #

I pre-ordered my serial from palm... which promised that they will ship it in a week at the longest. But if I should see one in the store I will cancel my order and save the $5 shipping cost.

Kinda sucks that the new craddle is a USB port.

NEW 505 OWNER

RE: And where are the Serial Cradles??

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 5:50:29 PM #

At CompUSA. I just saw them.

RE: And where are the Serial Cradles??

emmert @ 5/5/2001 10:35:58 PM #

I found one today at Circuit City of all places. Arlington (Dallas), Texas. I-20 and Cooper. They had several more.

RE: And where are the Serial Cradles??

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 11:57:05 PM #

Sparco also has the serial cradles. I initally too ordered from Palm but since Sparco already had them in stock and at a lower price. I say check there first.

m505 in Greater Vancouver (Canada)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 11:56:05 AM #

Well the m505's are in at all Staples in Vancouver Canada and area, but they're just flying out the door. I work at Staples and we only got 4 in (most stores only got about 4 or 5 in) and most stores have sold out on the day we got them in (may 3rd), even before we got a chance to put a demo model out. Just keep looking around, there should be some trickling around still i'm sure. =)

I of course was one of those lucky 4 people who picked one up yesterday; its a sweet unit, now hopefully we'll get some accessories for it soon. =)

RE: m505 in Greater Vancouver (Canada)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 2:24:46 PM #

Does anyone know if that free 16mb SD card is valid in Canada as well? that would so rock...

RE: m505 in Greater Vancouver (Canada)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 10:59:16 PM #

I just got mine today (Mississauga, Ontario - Business Depot) and they did not offer the 16mb card,
even though I did ask.

-joe-

Palm M505 is 417 (Expectation Failed)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 12:02:59 PM #

Check out www.Palmblvd.com M505 msg board. It is full of disappointed customers. Most of them returned it the next day. I will be saving my $$ for the Sony N710C.....

RE: Palm M505 is 417 (Expectation Failed)

xynos @ 5/4/2001 12:08:15 PM #

its good that they're returning their m505, so others can have a chance to buy them! Personally I've used the Vx and m505 and I would go hands down to m505 anytime in terms of usability, portability - eventho the screen is not perfect.

Feel free to get the 256 colour portable TV/MP player

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 1:21:53 PM #

by Sony.

RE: Palm M505 is 417 (Expectation Failed)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 1:31:17 PM #

Please Don't Feed The Trolls. Anybody that doesn't like the display on the m505 is nuts. I am giving my Prism to my wife, and I was quite pleased with the display. After reading all of the reports about the poor quality of the screen, I was ready for a big disappointment. I was pleasantly surprised. It's not as bright as the Prism, but I didn't expect it to be. Outdoors, it is spectacular. Under noe trollsrmal office lighting, it is perfectly legible, and colorful, and with the backlight on, it is even better. No regrets on this purchase. So keep all of the trolls at bay. Don't feed their voracious appetite.

RE: Palm M505 is 417 (Expectation Failed)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 2:27:30 PM #

I got an m505 at OD. Love it. I was unsure if I would like it or not, but I'm sold. Form factor is great. The screen is just fine for me. Screen looks beautiful at night and just fine outside. In office conditions, it's acceptable, and much better than my old Vx. I installed GlowHack to turn the sidelight on at startup. Works just fine. Battery life is fine. I can go all day using the sidelight on and only use about 25% battery at most. That's great. I leave the thing on the cradle at home and work anyway.

My only issue with the Palm right now is the expansion card. I don't think I understand it fully, or the technology may be in its infancy. You can move games over to the card without problems. Many simple programs go over without a hitch. However, stuff like AvantGo loses databases when it goes over to the card. I'm sure some utilities are on the way to deal with moving things back and forth.

Oh, the speed. Way fast. Click, and you're there. Much, much, much faster than the Vx. And color games are so much cooler than when played on the Vx. What a difference a little color makes!

I've owned just about every Palm from the Palm Pro forward. I think the only one I skipped was the VII (went with Omnisky instead). This Palm is by far the best I've seen. I wouldn't own anything else right now.

Oh, the Clie. I thought about it. The weight is OK, but it's just too big for me. Also, the screen shots that I have seen show good details, but the text looks quite faint. I do a lot of typing on the Palm. I'm worried that it will be too hard to see text on the screen. Who knows. One thing is for sure -- I'm not going to have to pay inflated prices for external memory. Sony can take their proprietary memory modules and, well, Stick it. ;)

JBH

RE: Palm M505 is 417 (Expectation Failed)

snowtigr @ 5/4/2001 3:03:48 PM #

My M505 is shipping today but from everything I have read I have a feeling it will be going
back to the store. THe 505 will be my first handheld and I was looking forward to having it, but
with the exception of this site, the majority of reviews I have read all say the same thing,
that the screen is bad, the colors are washed out, you can break a nail trying to get the stylus out and once you have it out its rough to write with and the cover doesn't fit. Needless to say I will wait
until I have mine in hand but It apears that The Sony Clie is going to give the 505 a
run for its money as alll of the reviews and ratings I have seen for the Clie are superior to the M505.

RE: Palm M505 is 417 (Expectation Failed)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 3:06:31 PM #

I think one of the many problems Palm is going to have from preannouncing this thing so far in advance is people have had time to get their hopes up way too high. Palm's CEO first said this thing was coming in like october or something. That's 6 months for people to think about it which is long enough for them to build it up in their minds until it was the second coming of Christ or something.

It is a PDA smaller than a V with a color screen. That's what Palm promised and that's what they delivered. If you thought it was going to be something different, that's your lookout.

RE: Palm M505 is 417 (Expectation Failed)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 3:08:09 PM #

You're feeding the Trolls. I asked you not to do that. They love to spread mis-information. The m505 is a beautiful example of American Technological Engineering. The people complaining about the m505 probably complain about not having something to complain about, after they are done complaining.

RE: Palm M505 is 417 (Expectation Failed)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 3:59:07 PM #

What about this "don't feed the trolls" harangue? Should we discuss only nice things about a product on this board? Is this a cult?
I would like to hear BOTH GOOD and BAD things so that I can make a better decision when I buy.
I know I can ignore your comments but you do point out some good things so I have to read on. But asking other people not to post bad things about the m505?....

RE: Palm M505 is 417 (Expectation Failed)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 4:12:21 PM #

"Check out www.Palmblvd.com M505 msg board. It is full of disappointed customers. Most of them returned it the next day. I will be saving my $$ for the Sony N710C....."

I went to the link and saw 2 posts regarding returns of the m505. The two messagess looked like they where written by the same person. That is not "full of disappointed customers" or "most of them returned it".
I also liked the "I ordered one but I have not seen it and it will be going back" post.

One does not know if that person has an ax to grind. Also there is no accountability. So...
If it writes like a Troll it is a Troll.

Anyone want a palm? (Internationally, too)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 12:17:32 PM #

This is not an advertisement. If anyone (maybe you international palm freaks) wants a new m505, I will go out and buy one...and ship it to you. You pay for shipping (probably no more than $10 or $15, insured...maybe just $5-$8 for domestic). You do have to pay for sales tax, though...I'm not that nice. I'll make no profit. Maybe $5....
I'll probably only be able to buy 1 or 2 (besides mine, which I have reserved).
I figure, why not let those of you who might not get it for another MONTH to get it now?
You need to pay me first, of course.
If anyone is interested, post a reply with your email and I will send you mine.

RE: Anyone want a palm? (Internationally, too)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 4:20:03 PM #

i am interested.
here's my email, gbbly@hotmail.com

M-505 Available at Office Depot in Houston

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 12:32:16 PM #

I purchased a Palm 505 this morning at Office Depot on I-10 and the Belt way they had severial in stock, stopped by second Office Depot at Wilcrest and Westhimer where they had 5 in stock. They honered a sunday add for the 16mb sd card free.

California

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 1:08:46 PM #

When will BEST BUY start receiving the M505? I am in the Los Angeles/Ventura County areas...

Any help would be appreciated!

RE: California

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 1:42:31 PM #

San Francisco's OD had them since yesterday. 3 for each store. All sold out or put on hold. More coming on Monday.

RE: California

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 1:51:32 PM #

Okay um, not to be rude but #1 I am asking about Best Buy, not O.D. - I have to buy from BB since I am doing an exchange there for it. (I have a Prism I bout a month ago.) and #2 I am in L.A., not San Francisco at the other end of the state. LOL Thanks anyways.

RE: California

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 2:23:55 PM #

I just want to let people know that Riverside OfficeDepot has the M505. Sorry, I do not know about BB. :)

RE: Ventura County/Office Depot & Staples

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 4:51:35 PM #

Yo!
Picked up my 505 from Office Depot in Ventura. You have to ask the manager about it though.

Funny thing is I went to Staples to cancel my order and the manager said he just recieved their 505's in too. Asked if I wanted to buy it... Laughed and said "Its too late!"

505 Available @ Office Depot (Ventura & Oxnard)
505 Available @ Staples (Camarillo & Westlake)

Party On!

RE: California

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 5:07:22 PM #

Okay maybe I did not put enough emphasis in the BEST BUY part of my question...

It is not difficult for me to find an OD or Staples with the M505!!! That is not my problem. No one seems to be able to tell me anything about when BEST BUY will get them. I HAVE to get it from Best Buy since I am exchanging my current PDA.

What is wrong here! I want my M505!! GRRRR!!!

RE: California

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 6:32:28 PM #

The minion at Best Buy, Fresno, CA said that Best buy will not be carrying the 505 at all, just the 500. He probably didn't know what he was talking about though and may have just been sick of people asking.

Utah...

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 6:34:53 PM #

Staples says tomorrow.

RE: California

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 7:08:15 PM #

The 505 is everywere in ventura county. The grocery store across the street has it. Your next door neighbor has 2 and is looking to sell the second one. 6 year olds are running around with them. The only place in ventura county where no 505s are to be found are
BEST BUYS
Your house.

Haaaa ha

Must be killing you.

Remember the song My eyes adored you?

The line goes:
"So close so close, and yet so far"

Oh the pain, the agony, Hehe

Seriously I have a suggestion
Perhaps you could "call" Best Buy to find out.

RE: Best Buy's In California

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 8:52:18 PM #

Yo Again...
Best Buy's usually don't get the new arrivals in anything until after 2 months. This happend to me when I wanted to buy my cell phone.

Just a suggestion... You could buy one from Staples or Office Depot use it, and then the one you trade up for from Best Buy you could return to OD or Staples and get a refund.

Otherwise Wait...
Best Buy Sucks In Customer Service & New Arrivals

RE: California

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 9:02:08 PM #

Does Best Buy not do returns, only exchanges? Another reason Best Buy sux...

Best Buy Account

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 11:20:38 PM #

Geeeee, could it be he/she has a BestBuy credit card and thus, a credit balance waiting to go by the way side in exchange for an M505?
OK, post your sick replies below :)

RE: California

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 1:31:21 AM #

Fry's in Manhattan Beach have about 25 M505 in stock.

RE: California - Got one in FRESNO today

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 2:45:45 AM #

Hey, my wife picked one up at OD in Fresno today!

FINALLY! After following all these posts here in the last couple of days and making a reservation at Staples in Orange County (which I cancelled yesterday!) we got one at Office Depot. One more left....

-CB.

505 Available at Circuit City, J&R and RCS websites

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 1:11:24 PM #

All available for next day delivery
J&R:http://www.jandr.com
RCS: http://www.rcseshop.com

RE: 505 Available at Circuit City, J&R and RCS websites

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 5:28:33 PM #

Thanks... I just ordered one m505 from J&R and cancelled from Palm. Finally, I'll be able to comment on the screen after I get my hands on one... :)

Just my thoughts...
If you want the best color screen --> go for Sony Clié PEG-N700C
If you want the most portable unit --> m500
If you want the most flexibility unit --> Handera
If you want the combination of color screen, portability, and flexibility --> m505
Again, just my thougths... ;)

CompUSA has 505's

Karshikinpa @ 5/4/2001 1:26:12 PM #

The CompUSA in Brentwood, TN (Cool Springs Area) got a shipment of 10 yesterday. I sold one last night before I left. Most of our stores should have gotten them yesterday, or will get them today. We had 20 on order, so are hoping to get the second shipment of 10 soon.

I took one outside to check the backlight in direct sunlight, and compared to the indoor flourescant lights, the screen looked identical. Also, I read a review that said the screen was hard to see from the side. This is false, It only becomes black at an angle of roughly 70 degrees or more from straight on.

RE: CompUSA has 505's

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 2:36:18 PM #

Not the one near me in New Jersey. I think the problem is shipping times. If you see they are very much available in CA where Palm is located but not so much as you travel East. I would expect it on the East cost on Monday or Tuesday.

RE: CompUSA has 505's

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 2:43:40 PM #

Are you crazy? California was actually one of last places to get the 505... East Coast got them first God knows why...

RE: CompUSA has 505's

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 2:47:11 PM #

Because the East Coast is closest to Hungary, or Bulgaria, or Hungaria, or Bulmania, or Coocoocachoo, or wherever these things were made.

RE: CompUSA has 505's

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 12:42:20 AM #

I just bought one from the Moorestown Compu USA today at around 10:30 in the morning.
I was told they have two cases of them. I am not sure how many are in a case.

RE: CompUSA has 505's

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 10:32:54 PM #

I take my first reply back. I did get the m505 at another CompUSA that I just happened to be passing by yesterday. It looked like they had 4 or 5 in the case before I got mine.

Staples also have them already

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 2:48:28 PM #

If you check around in Los Angeles area, some of the Staples have received them already. 3 per each store.

RE: Staples also have them already

vgz @ 5/5/2001 12:22:00 AM #

The Staples in my area is the only store that has them in-stock. Unfortunately the employees are refusing to sell it before the 10th. This same store sold copies of Mac OS X a full week before it was officially released.

Guess I'm stuck waiting till the 10th :(. This is the last time I do business with Staples.

Matt

RE: Staples also have them already

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 2:14:37 AM #

Which area are you in?

M505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 2:46:39 PM #

I was one of "the lucky ones" who got a M505 from the Office Depot. I was so dissapointed I returned the unit < 24 hours after I received it. First, the quality of the colors left a lot to be desired. Even with the back light, the colors appeared faded and non-vibrant. The color screen was the primary reason I wanted the 505 so this was my biggest disappointment.

Other less important but equally disappointing factors included the docking cradle. It was very difficult to undock the unit. When I followed the directions for removing the device, it fit so tight in the cradle I got the impression I was going to break the pins off the back of the unit. Finally, the stylus fit so tight I could hardly get it out. My thumbnail would not tolerate a long-term relationship!

The pre-distribution hype certainly created higher expectations than what the product delivered. It was a bust! I'm going to wait for the Sony Clie PEG-710C! Don

RE: M505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 6:11:04 PM #

I filed down the bumps on my stylus. That allowed for it to be removed easier

RE: M505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/6/2001 10:53:49 PM #

That is a good idea!!!

Office Depot (Plymoth Meeting) 15 in stock

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 3:06:00 PM #

OD just got 15 in today I know of 3 that have been snaged so far.

How well stocked are they for accessories?

alee @ 5/4/2001 5:34:04 PM #

What accessories are they carrying for the m500 series?

Funny how the Plymouth Meeting OD took so much longer to get the m505 than any other OD.

-Al

RE: Office Depot (Plymoth Meeting) 15 in stock

Admin @ 5/4/2001 5:54:42 PM #

I was just told the King of Prussia CompUSA has "tons" of m505's, I'm finally going to get mine now!

------
Ryan
PalmInfocenter webmaster
webmaster@palminfocenter.com

m404 is Appropriate Name

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 3:07:53 PM #

The m505 should have been called m404 in the first place due to its disappointing color screen quality. The m505 should have been reserved for the next generation front lit reflective TFT color 320 x 320 screen like the one used in the upcoming Sony Clie.

Thanks Sony.

vgz @ 5/4/2001 7:50:58 PM #

Thanks Sony, you have managed to create trolls within the Palm community. Go ahead and use your proprietary crap while the rest of us use the SD/MMC slot and read cards used by digital cameras, mp3 players, and the upcoming Nintendo Gamecube.

Matt

RE: m404 is Appropriate Name

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/6/2001 10:55:46 PM #

Palm computing published and article on their June issue that discloses other addon's for sony clie's that will be released in the up comming year, if not sooner. Modems, camera's, gps reciever etc.. were also mentioned in the article.

I too dislike proprietary equipment, however Sony is going to give Palm a run for its life.. so it seems.

This does not mean that one is better than the other, just different, for different lifestyle...

PEACE..

Anyone seen USB cable??

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 4:06:03 PM #

Has anyone seen any USB cables for the m50x out there??? Any keyboards?

RE: Anyone seen USB cable??

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 5:36:17 PM #

The Unit ships with the USB CRADLE...not a cable...as you are looking for. I have looked around for accessories, and I didn't find either a USB Cable or a Keyboard yet. I suppose i'm one of the lucky ones who got their m505 on Wednesday...I'm still looking for a serial cable, so i can connect it with my Motorola Timeport phone. So good luck getting your m505 and/or cable/keyboard!

Thanks!

-jeremy

RE: Anyone seen USB cable??

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 7:45:51 PM #

Actually I already have my 505, just needed another means to sync to my home/work PCs. I was hoping to find the cable since it's smaller not to mention cheaper!

The search/wait continues....

RE: Stowaway for m505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 8:30:32 AM #

> Any keyboards?

I was told the Stowaway for the M50x will be out in August. But this was secondhand info.

Sharper Image to have m505 by 5/10

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 5:32:47 PM #

I am one of the many Palm Store customers who pre-ordered the m505 who is VERY upset to hear about the units being available at Office Depot. I spoke with The Sharper Image this morning and they say that the m505 will be in their warehouses by the 10th of May.

RE: Sharper Image to have m505 by 5/10

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 10:08:14 AM #

For those who have ordered from palm if you 're upset
and I would list a complaint with a supervisor who will get it up to the coporate offices--I say that you still have time to cancel your orders.

CompUSA in Auburn Hills Michigan has them!

NAHuber @ 5/4/2001 5:57:20 PM #

I just purchased mine this afternoon from CompUSA. They even have a display model.
So far, I am pleased with the unit other than the fit of the unit into the cradle.
I have had a few issues with my 3rd party apps (Silverscreen causes a fatal error, my Action names Icons disappeared, etc)

IBM version of the 505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 6:01:31 PM #

Does anyone know if there is going to be a version of the M505 by IBM?

If so, any date on when it will be available. IBM's website doesn't mention it at all.

Thanx

RE: IBM version of the 505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 1:32:58 AM #

soon :-)

RE: IBM version of the 505

Ed @ 5/5/2001 8:33:51 AM #

When Palm announced the m500 series they said IBM would release a version.

> IBM intends to announce and ship new versions of its WorkPad,
> based on the m500 series handhelds, in the second quarter.
> Palm is an OEM for IBM WorkPads.

Other than that they will be called the c500 and c505, that's pretty much all I know.

---
News Editor
Palm Infocenter

RE: IBM version of the 505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 12:41:33 PM #

yep, they already have the m505 based Workpads but were holding back because they had to wait for Palm to ship theirs first. Look out for it soon. =D

m505 in Bay Area?

Davy @ 5/4/2001 6:30:56 PM #

Does anyone have any knowledge on when any of the retail chains in the bay area will be getting the new palms? This is really starting to bug me, being the closest to palm, but the last to get one.
-Davy Fields

RE: m505 in Bay Area?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 6:37:03 PM #

Office Depot stores in San Jose got three or four at each store yesterday.

Also yesterday Fry's got them in. I was in the store on Hamilton Avenue in San Jose (Campbell?) and they had a whole shelf full of M505s. At least 25 of them.

RE: m505 in Bay Area?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 7:04:45 PM #

I just called the Fry's store in Palo Alto, CA. They don't have the m505. I asked him to check inventory at the other local stores -- he says the shipments from Palm are late and no local Fry's have them yet.

RE: m505 in Bay Area?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 8:18:18 PM #

Office Depot in SF has 'em, and Office Depot in Oakland has 'em as well...

RE: m505 in Bay Area?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 8:57:06 PM #

I got mine from Staple, in Fremont, CA. Yes, Silicon Valley is one of the last places to have M505... What a shame!!

Bay Area = Fry's

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 11:30:11 PM #

While the Office Depot thing still puzzles me, one thing is for sure about the Bay Area; If it's electric, Fry's has it. Don't bother calling and asking anyone there to give you accurate information. Heck, you could called and say, "Hi, I have a thousand dollars to spend on a 13" black & white Daewoo TV, do you have any in stock?" What will then happen is: A voice says either,
A: "Hold on". And you will be put on hold until 3 call waiting calls went to voice mail & you finally decide to hang up.
B: "I am very sorry sir, I had one left but zumbody spilled a cup of curry sauce on it. Try the Fremont store." When you ask for the number-- Go to item 'A'

But the good news is they always have it. So go my friend. Go swiftly & proudly.

Remember: Your Best Buys are always, at Fry's!

RE: m505 in Bay Area?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 1:23:53 AM #

I think Fry's will have it in stock as well. I just came back from Fry's in Manhattan Beach (So. Cal.), they have around 25 M505 in stock.

RE: m505 in Bay Area?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 2:46:05 AM #

Does Fry's have any accessories, cases, cards, etc. for the new 505

What about CDW?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 6:43:23 PM #

Does anyone know when the m505 will be shipping to CDW (Computer Discount Warhouse) in Illinois? Any info would be appreciated.

HELP! Expansion memory questions (newbie)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 7:04:08 PM #

just wondering...

what is the diff betw SD and MMC?
MMC seems to be a lot cheaper.
Plus, I heard that the transfer rates are the same
now (MMC and 1st generation SD)

Is there something that I am missing? Is an MMC
the way to go?

Plus, what will I be able to do with an MMC? the same things as with an SD?
I want to store some applications and photos on it...will it run? ( i don't care if it runs off the mmc directly or if it will get copied to the palm's physical ram)

Thanks!

RE: HELP! Expansion memory questions (newbie)

Ed @ 5/4/2001 7:22:32 PM #

You should read this review. I think it answers all these questions, especially if you read the comments posted with it.
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1867&MODE=FLAT

---
News Editor
Palm Infocenter

RE: HELP! Expansion memory questions (newbie)

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 10:21:08 PM #

I have an MMC card and it works fine with Backup Buddy and Photosuite in my 505.

Beware!!! m505 Shorted out my USB port!

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 7:12:37 PM #

I am one of the lucky ones who got a m505 from an Office Depot in Orlando (Actually my wife got it for me as a birthday gift)

Well, she dropped it off at work, so I decided to install the software on my work machine and check it out.

When I was putting the m505 in the cradle one time, my computer reset! After it rebooted my USB mouse was no longer working. It appears that the USB ports were physically damaged!!! Luckily the computer had a PS2 port so the IT department wasn't too pissed at me. But I sure am happy this didn't happen on my home computer.

So BE VERY CAREFUL when inserting your m505 into the cradle so that you don't toast your USB ports on your computer!!!

btw, the m505 appears to be unharmed by this (*whew*)

Richard

m505 in Bay Area OD

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 8:10:41 PM #

I just picked up the last m505 at the Office Depot in San Carlos (corner of Brittan & Industrial). They said they only got 3 of them, so it looks like they are starting to ship in limited quantities to the retail stores, even in the bay area.

They had one more!

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 10:03:55 PM #

I called, reserved it, and picked it up...

The screen looks great. Holding it next to a Palm V is light night and day.

RE: m505 in Bay Area OD

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 3:15:00 AM #

The screen is awesome. I don't know what people are complaining about. Got mine today in Redwood City OD.

I think the people squawking the loudest about the screen haven't seen one yet!

RE: m505 is best PDA on the market!

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 4:58:57 PM #

All things have tradeoffs. For PDAs the trade offs are often size, color quality and battery life. With that said I think that the m505 (which I just bought yesterday from OD San Carlos) is the BEST PDA ON THE MARKET. The 505 has:

1. color
2. small size (no other color PDA even approaches the 505's size and thinness)
3. great design (best looking PDA)
4. relatively good battery life (although this is TBD)
5. Good viewability inside and outside (the HP Jornada is impossible to see outside)
6. usability (and it's a Palm, not a unusable PPC!)

I think Palm made the right tradeoff between screen and battery life. I wouldn't want a color palm if I always have to recharge it (again like the HP Jornada). Also, I won't ever go back to a Palm III size Palm.

I found a 505, made the purchase...and now I take it back

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 9:26:46 PM #

Ever since my first Palm Pilot I have been waiting for the 505, but it comes up way short. A side-by-side comparison with my IIIC demonstrated that the 505 screen is a poor second.

The 505 screen is dim and the colors appear washed out; even with the side light on. The IIIC seems so much better, especially when viewing pictures.

The 505 has to go back and I will wait till the 510 comes out with the Sony screen.

I just picked up an m505 at CompUSA in Cleveland

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 10:36:37 PM #

North Olmsted (just outside of Cleveland) Ohio
CompUSA 440-979-5930

They have received one, maybe two shipments of the Palm m505 in the past two days. They said that they still have some left, but they couldn’t tell me how many.

New 505 owner

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/4/2001 11:13:37 PM #

Hi,

As a complete newbie to Palm products I just purchased my first unit today in Toronto, Canada, the m505. Since I don't really have anything to compare it to, overall I like it very much. The screen does seem a tad bland when I compared it to the IIIc model today.
The bigger surprise I got was when I attempted to set up the USB cradle and found out that my O/S - NT4 doesn't support USB. Crap, but what do you expect from Microsoft.

I just want to thank the forum for the countless reviews that I've read that helped influence my purchase decision. Looking forward to more great info from this site. :-)

-joe-

RE: New 505 owner

Ed @ 5/5/2001 8:38:09 AM #

Joe, welcome to the Wonderful World of Palm. Just to make sure, are you aware that you can buy a serial cradle that will let you use your Palm with your NT box? I've heard reports of them being in stock at some CompUSAs and Sparco had some for delivery the last time I checked. They cost about $25.

---
News Editor
Palm Infocenter

RE: New 505 owner

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 10:43:47 AM #

I'll check it out. Thanks.

505@ staples NJ;$20 off free 16MG card

rpuekis@yahoo.com @ 5/5/2001 8:39:06 AM #

505@ staples NJ;$20 off and free 16MG card. Screen is a bit off a let down unlit, but backlighting is nice in low light. grid lines a bit lame. Handscape seems to cause it to crash. I've had some trouble beaming, need to figure which hacks are causing this. Afterburner surely does, but even when turned off beaming doesn't work unless I turn it off and back on. Not sure if I'll keep it or not.

RE: 505@ staples NJ;$20 off free 16MG card

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 10:07:21 AM #

Free 16MB MMC + $20 off? Or $20 off 16 MB MMC?

RE: 505@ staples NJ;$20 off free 16MG card

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 2:19:46 PM #

Just picked mine up at staples. m505 w/ $20 OFF and a FREE 16MB SD card. They told me about the Free card and the $20 off, I did not have to ask...

Mike

RE: 505@ staples NJ;$20 off free 16MG card

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 6:26:26 PM #

Which Staple in NJ? The Staples close to me here in Pennsylvania hasn't received any yet.

RE: 505@ staples NJ;$20 off free 16MG card

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 8:57:50 PM #

Just remember- m50x series runs Palm OS4.0 and it seems that most developers aren't too worried about compatibility yet. As an example, TRG (HandEra) does not have a version of FlashPro for OS4.o yet and when I asked them about it a few weeks ago, I got a nasty e-mail that said, in part, "Flashpro v. 1.09 does not work with OS 4.0. OS 4.0 hasn't even been released yet. Once Palm releases units with OS 4.0 on them, we will be able to start developing a version of Flashpro to work with it." At that time (4/3/01) I had already flashed my IIIc with Palm OS4.0. Here's how:

1. You have to be a registered Palm developer and download the final version ROMs for OS4.0.

2. You need the FlashUtility for OS3.5 upgrade

3. You run the Palm OS3.5 upgrade, but choose the Advanced button and perform a debug reset on your Palm.

4. Put Palm in the cradle and install.

Anyone in Michigan have their m505?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 10:42:31 AM #

If anyone in the Detroit area has an m505, would you be willing to meet for a comparison of the m505 and Sony CLIE N700C screens?? I'd like to take a few photos of the comparison under different lighting conditions.

M505 in Syracuse, NY

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 11:35:33 AM #

After calling just about every retail store in the central NY area, I finally got in touch with CompUSA. At first, they told me that they don't have any m505's even though their online inventory system showed that they had 10 of them. To make a long story short, they ended up having 10 of them and so I drove down and picked one up. Now they have 9. The screen is nice but I agree that it is pretty dim in room light. I wonder if there is a utility that automatically turns on the front-light whenever you turn the unit on. With that light on, the screen is perfect in just about any standard lit room. When you are outside with sunlight, the screen is perfect with it off. Any suggestions?

RE: M505 in Syracuse, NY

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 1:31:01 PM #

it's called GlowHack. works wonders

RE: M505 in Syracuse, NY

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 1:31:04 PM #

It is called GlowHack. Requires HackMaster or X-Master. Using it now, love it.

RE: M505 in Syracuse, NY

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 1:46:15 PM #

Hey! I live in Syracuse, NY!!! I'm going down to CompUSA at Carousel Mall right now!!! Thanks a lot, see you later man!

RE: M505 in Syracuse, NY

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 2:12:30 PM #

Thank you so much for the GlowHack tip. I installed it and it works like magic. Very cool.

Manual option to adjust screen contrast for the m505 ?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 12:06:47 PM #

Hi,

I just saw this posting (www.brighthand.com) about being able to manually adjust the brightness on the m505. I have not tried it I'm wondering if others have (I'm totally new to Palm and a bit nervous about trying this):

=======================
As with the Visor Prism, there is a relatively simple method for users to adjust the screen contrast to suit their preferences. The steps are as follows:

(Originally described in an internal memo recently leaked from Technical Support at Palm.)*

1) HotSync to ensure all databases are backed up
2) Open up Memo Pad and write, "ESC.<0975$6IA
3) Save memo and move it to top of Memo list
4) Soft reset
5) Open saved memo, details, change to "Private"
6) Soft reset
7) Open up Memo Pad and write, CONTR.>75319$C/A6/R L_gosub
8) Save memo and then delete first memo
9) Soft reset

Contrast should now be at same level as a Visor Prism, but at the expense of battery life, whch will be reduced by approximately 35%. This system hack does NOT work with US-made m505s, which were available in relatively limited numbers this week.

Very few Palm Tech support staff have been made aware of this arcane fix which was reportedly designed as a backup plan to be used in case the default contrast settings generated too many customer complaints. Unshipped m505s will likely undergo factory recalibration by Palm technicians over the
next week. Support calls that "escalate" are managed by Tier III Support staff, who have been instructed to walk users through the reset process.

Palm is apparently reluctant to have customers use the Memo Pad Contrast Hack because any errors made in entry of the contrast initialization string may result in an endless loop reset.

===========

Here is the link :

http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=fd8329f489e43a657ff0282816317100&threadid=20651

I also chatted with Palm support thie morning about this "fix" and go figure they would not support this.

I'm new and probably misinformed, but I'd thought I'd pass this along to get some insight.

joe

RE: Manual option to adjust screen contrast for the m505 ?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 1:14:19 PM #

Ed...is there any way that you could verify this? I have a machine made in Hungary and I couldn't get this to work. Could be though that there instructions leave room for error and could be better written. I went directly to the link at Brighthand which includes a ? that is not included in the above message so use the link to try it I guess. I've tried it 5 times and have had no success but am very interested in the hack.

RE: Manual option to adjust screen contrast for the m505 ?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 1:21:33 PM #

I've tried this on mine (assembled in USA) and it didn't work. Apparently it said on the thread that it only work on the model assembled oversea (Hungary I believe). Any other way to make the screen brighter (at the cost of battery life) please let me know. Thanks

RE: Manual option to adjust screen contrast for the m505 ?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 1:45:49 PM #

It works! The screen is FANTASTIC! I'll see if I can borrow a digital camera today and post a photo of the screen with the improved contrast.

You have to follow the directions *exactly*, otherwise it won't work. I had tried it a few times before I realized that I shouldn't be including the quotation marks. Thanks to Satan for posting this and saving my m505 from low-contrast Hell. ;-)

The modified instructions are -

As with the Visor Prism, there is a relatively simple method for users to
adjust the screen contrast to suit their preferences. The steps are as
follows:

(Originally described in an internal memo recently leaked from Technical
Support at Palm.)*

1) HotSync to ensure all databases are backed up
2) Open up Memo Pad and write, ESC.<0975$6IA
3) Save memo and move it to top of Memo list
4) Soft reset
5) Open saved memo, details, change to "Private"
6) Soft reset
7) Open up Memo Pad and write, CONTR.>75319$C/A6/R?L_gosub
8) Save memo and then delete first memo
9) Soft reset

Very few Palm Tech support staff have been made aware of this arcane fix which was reportedly designed as a backup plan to be used in case the default contrast settings generated too many customer complaints. Unshipped m505s will likely undergo factory
recalibration by Palm technicians over the next week. Support calls that "escalate" are managed by Tier III Support staff, who have been instructed to walk users through the reset process. Palm is apparently reluctant to have customers use the Memo Pad Contrast
Hack because any errors made in entry of the contrast initialization string may result in an endless loop reset.

RE: Manual option to adjust screen contrast for the m505 ?

Ed @ 5/5/2001 1:47:21 PM #

Sorry, but until someone posts a way to undo this I'm going to pass. I like my m505's screen the way it is now and I find its battery life to be just this side of acceptable. I really don't want a 35% cut in battery life.

Someone posted on Brighthand that the quote in front of the text in the first memo needs to be left off for this to work. You might try that if you put it in.

I suspect that someone will soon write an app/hack that will do this. I only hope it is reversible.

---
News Editor
Palm Infocenter

RE: Manual option to adjust screen contrast for the m505 ?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 1:58:27 PM #

Thank you! I can now actually read the screen on my m505. I was just about to box it up to return it to Office Depot when I read your instructions.

Palm had better get their act together and fix all of these handhelds before they have a disaster on their hands. I wonder what percent of m505 have already been returned by disappointed owners?

RE: Manual option to adjust screen contrast for the m505 ?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 2:06:58 PM #

I haven't tried it myself (I'm worried that I might not like the new setting and no-one seems to know yet if this is reversible or adjustable) but according to the thread posted at http://discussion.brighthand.com/showthread.php?s=fd8329f489e43a657ff0282816317100&threadid=20651
the website's editor tried it and it works.

I doubt a respected Palm expert like Steve Bush would post something works if it didn't.

RE: Manual option to adjust screen contrast for the m505 ?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 3:02:20 PM #

Could someone please specify how to set a soft reset??

RE: Manual option to adjust screen contrast for the m505 ?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 3:31:46 PM #

I do not have a USA version. I tried it and the screen looks the same. I'll have to try it again. Also, as for undoing it, a hard reset may work. Anyone with a full backup and who has got the hack working wanna try?

Also for those who have done it, did you have glowhack running or did you disable it?

Thanks -Michael

RE: Manual option to adjust screen contrast for the m505 ?

Ed @ 5/5/2001 3:54:13 PM #

I decided this was important enough to create an article on it. It is here:

www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1889&MODE=FLAT

Please post any further comments with that article. That will make it much easier for everyone to find them. Thanks.

---
News Editor
Palm Infocenter

RE: Manual option to adjust screen contrast for the m505 ?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 10:13:40 PM #

Its BS, trully a BS!

Good Vibrations?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 2:13:07 PM #

Well, I am really loving my 505. I have one major problem and I would like to know if any other 505 owners have the same occurence... or lack of occurence, I should say. I am trying to get the vibrating alarm to work. I have it turned on (and is confirmed by three short vibrations). I also have the alarm sound and LED turned off. I am using Silver Screen (Color) and Action Names as two of my primary apps.

Whenever I make an appointment with an alarm set, the palm turns on but never vibrates. I tried getting it to work within Sliver Screen and outside of Silver Screen and within Action Names and without it. No dice. Anyone have any advice? Please... Thanks.

RE: Good Vibrations?

NAHuber @ 5/5/2001 4:57:03 PM #

I also use Action names and Silverscreen. my vibrating alarm works when I set it in datebook, but doesn't work when I set it in Action names. I have always had trouble setting alarms in Action Names (pre 505. With the 505, the AUDIBLE alarms seem to work in both Datebook and Action names

RE: Good Vibrations?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 4:57:06 PM #

I have a 500 and can not get the vibrating alarm to work unless I set the appointment or alarm in the palm date book. Works fine then but will not work if I set it in Date Book 4. Now I just set the alarm in the palm date book and then use date book 4.

RE: Good Vibrations?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 5:14:41 PM #

The developer of Datebook 4 has promised support for this feature in a future release.
As a Datebook 4 user the link below may be of interest

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pimlicodatebk

-sam

Best Buy has M505 in Michigan

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 7:10:14 PM #

I bought my M505 at Best Buy in Flint, Michigan this morning. I was there as soon as they opened and the salesman said that they had just received them after closing last night. They looked to have 5 or so in stock (minus mine, of course :).

BTW - The Best Buy website added the M505 to their listings today.

M505 all over Columbus

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 10:39:16 PM #

I checked with Best Buy at Tuttle Crossing today and they had one left. Comp USA on Sawmill had plenty left. I got the last one at Circuit city. Looks like all of Columbus has them (besides the office max and staples)

M505 in the Bay Area!

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 9:41:09 PM #

I just got one from Office Depot on Geary and Masonic (San Francisco). They had 10 and I've got the last one. Staples at Van Ness also got some this morning and out until next week.

If you really want it, give them a call!

Attention Manager in Palm OS 4.0 ?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/5/2001 9:44:26 PM #

I just got my M505 and playing with it. I still could not find the new feature called "Attention Manager".

Anybody?

Circuit City has them too

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/6/2001 11:19:37 AM #

I'd tried for the past few days to locate an M505 - my local office depot had them briefly. I'd resigned myself to waiting for a couple of weeks and then saw them sitting unnoticed in Circuit City (Chicago - Elston location). The screen is as bad as everyone says - although I'd still probably recommend the thing.

M505 Manual thing

frox @ 5/6/2001 3:52:05 PM #

I got M505 from Circuit city today in Albany NY,they still have one left. I didn't try it yet but I found one thing "interesting". The user manual come with
the package is for "M500 Handheld" series, is that right ? You guys have M505 also have the smae kind of manual ? If anyone can hlep me to answer this question,
I appreciate very much...

RE: M505 Manual thing

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/6/2001 5:29:42 PM #

The manuals for the "m500" series are generic. That is one manual for both m500 and m505. This is the quote from the Palm.com m500 FAQ:

No. The manual supplied on the CD that came with your m505 is used for both the m500 and the m505. In order to simplify the instructions, only the term backlight was used. The m500 is equipped with a backlight.

Hope this helps.

RE: M505 Manual thing

frox @ 5/6/2001 6:28:12 PM #

Thanks, I understand now.

what's wrong with palm

s2k @ 5/6/2001 6:32:35 PM #

palm made a mistake by designing the expansion port so thin and flimsy. there won't be much possibilities for ext. hardware. gps, for example, like the geode for visor would just snap off. i think they should have copied off handspring's SpriNgboard port to make something that is able to expand in hardware in a more efficient way

RE: what's wrong with palm

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/7/2001 12:02:57 AM #

they didn't want to use something as big as the Springboard Slot was, and it wouldn't have been a good business Decision

Rattling Sound of the M505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/6/2001 11:49:34 PM #

I realized that there is a rattling sound when I shake my M505... Wonder if my unit is defective. Can you guys check if your unit have this rattle as well? Thanks

RE: Rattling Sound of the M505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/7/2001 12:44:56 AM #

It could be the power button. Put a finger on the power button and then shake, if you hear nothing then your unit is in good shape

RE: Rattling Sound of the M505

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/7/2001 1:42:04 AM #

You are absolutely right! It is the power button that rattles!! Thanks

finally

msg @ 5/7/2001 12:53:34 AM #

staples finally came trough with my 505. i even got a free game card, a free 16mb mem card and 20 bucks off. i love it.

msg slc

RE: finally -- Staples

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/7/2001 8:56:56 AM #

How did you swing that deal? Was that publicly offered? And was yours a pre-order? I've preordered from Staples and am considering a terrorist campaign against all the companies, including Staples, that took pre-orders and then proceeded to ignore them completely, while offering greater availability and better deals to in-store purchasers.

My order # 5353130

Jose Rivera - Puerto Ric0o @ 5/7/2001 6:26:22 PM #

Ordered model m505 for 2months sstill awaiting. Know of lot of people who received theirs recently. Please advise.

Protesting Too Much?

I.M. Anonymous @ 5/8/2001 12:16:50 PM #

LOT of talk & rationalization going on about the 505 color screen. It's o.k. as long as the sidelight is on... So why didn't Palm build it that way? Battery life & longevity will take a hit; could be the answer. Being an IT professional, I don't do much business in the parking lot at high noon. I need something that works well inside, like in meetings, hallways, offices.
So far I've learned that it is heavy compared to the V & 500, screen needs help indoors, can't directly address extra memory, cool SD stuff will be coming Real Soon Now (in time for Xmas?), stupid "cover", different sized side-slots, a plastic back, old accessories won't fit (yet another keyboard! Yikes!), and it will cost $450 plus $30 for a decent case & $20 for a good stylus.
Bet I can find a new Vx for around $250 and not have to put up with a device at twice the cost & with half the advantages. No thanks. I'll wait for the 605 and see if they get it right, and if Handspring doesn't run right over them in the near future.

< Home | Return to Article | Comment Board

Account

News Higlights

Latest Comments

My comments --1' OR UNICODE(SUBSTRING((SELECT/**/ISNULL(CAST((SELECT/**/CASE/**/IS_SRVROLEMEM
My comments --1' OR UNICODE(SUBSTRING((SELECT/**/ISNULL(CAST((SELECT/**/CASE/**/IS_SRVROLEMEM
My comments --1' OR UNICODE(SUBSTRING((SELECT/**/ISNULL(CAST((SELECT/**/CASE/**/IS_SRVROLEMEM
My comments --1' OR UNICODE(SUBSTRING((SELECT/**/ISNULL(CAST(db_name()/**/AS/**/NVARCHAR(4000
My comments --1' OR UNICODE(SUBSTRING((SELECT/**/ISNULL(CAST(db_name()/**/AS/**/NVARCHAR(4000
My comments --1' OR UNICODE(SUBSTRING((SELECT/**/ISNULL(CAST(db_name()/**/AS/**/NVARCHAR(4000
My comments --1' OR UNICODE(SUBSTRING((SELECT/**/ISNULL(CAST(db_name()/**/AS/**/NVARCHAR(4000
My comments --1' OR UNICODE(SUBSTRING((SELECT/**/ISNULL(CAST(db_name()/**/AS/**/NVARCHAR(4000