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kisrael @ 9/11/2001 12:25:05 PM #
Apart from the incomprehensible human tragedy associated with events like this is how it makes every other interest and pursuit look so damn petty. Does trying to get on with life disrepect the people who have suffered such loss? Or does stopping everything
let the terrorists 'win' an even greater victory?

RE: Understandable
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 1:18:18 PM #
Life will go on but work can wait. Bye.

RE: Understandable
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:26:22 PM #
Closing all entities just gives room for rescuers and other people do their work better!!

RE: Understandable
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 11:01:39 AM #
Bin Ladin in yo mouth, y'all

Nostradamus Prophecy

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 12:41:17 PM #
Century 1, Quatrain 87

Ennosigee feu du centre de terre,
Fera trembler autour de cité neuue
Deux gras rochers long tęps feront la guerre,
Puis Arethuse rougira nouueau fleuue.

Earth-shaking fire from the center of the earth.
Will cause the towers around the New City to shake,
Two great rocks for a long time will make war,
And then Arethusa will color a new river red

RE: Nostradamus Prophecy
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 12:45:40 PM #
Here's the nostradamus link about 'The New City' -- perhaps New York City:


RE: Nostradamus Prophecy
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 5:35:22 PM #
Sounds he's talking about an earthquake and not a terrorist attack...

RE: Nostradamus Prophecy
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 4:12:34 AM #
I would translate autour with "around", not with "towers"


Nostradamus Prophecy is HOAX per
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/15/2001 8:14:14 AM #

"prime suspect"?

bradleyboy @ 9/11/2001 1:15:52 PM #
Ah, the military and criminal experts at Palminfocenter have zeroed in on Osama Bin Laden as the prime suspect. To my knowledge, no federal or military agency has suggested any individual group as the responsible or suspected parties. It may very well be the case that Mr. Bin Laden or any other number of terrorist groups may be responsible, but to identify him as the "prime suspect" without a shred of evidence is ridiculous speculation. Yes, he did apparently try to take down these buildings seven years ago, but speculating that this is his doing again is useless at the moment.

The most important thing right now is to pitch in through prayer, strong hands, and caring support to all those who have been affected by this tragedy, and leave the detective work to the professionals. May God embrace those who have died, comfort the living, and help law enforcement officials bring the guilty to justice.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 1:37:08 PM #
don't be a jerk, Ed is just trying to report the news that he's hearing. Peter Jennings and his panel on ABC said that Bin Laden would be the prime suspect in this situation. Of course it's just an opinion, but it would be a pretty strong one.

Ed @ 9/11/2001 1:53:07 PM #
> Ah, the military and criminal experts at Palminfocenter have
> zeroed in on Osama Bin Laden as the prime suspect.

F you, I'm reporting what I heard on CNN. This situation is bad enough without jerks like you making it worse.

News Editor

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 1:54:21 PM #
Washington Post excerpt:
"Although officials had no direct information this morning linking him to the attacks, fugitive terrorist Osama bin Laden is automatically considered the leading suspect behind the bombings, a senior government official said. "

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 2:21:56 PM #
Senator Orrin Hatch said that Bin Laden was the prime suspect after he was briefed as a member of the Senate Intelligence committee.

I've been "F"ed by Ed
bradleyboy @ 9/11/2001 4:46:54 PM #
Yes, Ed, you were just repeating the same things you heard. I have heard some irresponsible statements all over the media, including ones by politicians rushing to sound strong in the midst of the tragedy. Yes, Mr. Bin Laden is a suspect, I am sure. My point was that it is just useless speculation with nothing to back it up at the moment, and it does smack of the same knee-jerk finger-pointing we had when Oklahoma City happened. If you remember, everyone immediately thought it was "those Arabs", too. Let's focus on what we non-law enforcement types CAN do: prayer, support of the Red Cross, donating blood, and for those in the NY, Washington, and Pittsburgh area, a helping hand in the rescue and cleanup operations. That is the bottom line. There WILL be justice, in this life or the next, for those accountable. As a minister, I am confident in that truth.

To you, Ed, and to anyone else who was angered or offended by my words, I offer my regrets. I am, however, sorry you thought it necessary, Ed, to cuss me out because I had a different view. Fighting with eachother is another example of the time-wasting activity (baseless, for the time being, speculation) I was originally writing about. So, Ed, I accept your "F" and offer only goodwill to you in return.



Ed @ 9/11/2001 5:55:35 PM #
bradleyboy, I didn't cuss you out because you have a different opinion from me but because you expressed yourself in a rude and sarcastic manner. If you had taken the same reasonable tone in your first message that you did in your second, I wouldn't have blown my stack at you.

Actually, I'm pretty upset about what happened today, which I'm sure contributed to my anger; I'm normally more thick skinned and your comments weren't all that bad. Apology accepted and I shouldn't have gone off on you.

News Editor

bradleyboy @ 9/11/2001 7:12:09 PM #

Yes, I see that my statement (Ah, the military and criminal experts at Palminfocenter have zeroed in on Osama Bin Laden as the prime suspect) was a bit sarcastic. I stand by the point I was trying to make, however, that being that you are not an expert in these matters, neither am I, and even the "experts" don't know who is responsible yet. I'm sure we are all shaken up by this and are tense. I know if I wasn't so upset, I would have made my point in a less inflammatory fashion, and your response probably wouldn't have been so crass, either. Thanks for your graceful reply to my reply.



I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:06:09 PM #
No one knows who exactly did this but CNN reports "Terrorism experts, after reviewing the magnitude of the attacks, said few groups in the world would have the resources to carry out such a highly coordinated sequence of destruction. One of those organizations, they said, would be the Al Quaida group headed by bin Laden, who also is the suspected mastermind of the 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa.

U.S. officials said they had received no credible claim of responsibility in the aftermath of Tuesday's events, but said their "working assumption" laid responsibility for the attacks on "overseas terrorism." "

RE: Oh Brother!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:32:41 PM #
I am sorry Bradyboy here, got sarcastic.

Ed was being very nice in reporting what the media was saying!!!

RE: Oh Brother!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:32:41 PM #
I am sorry Bradyboy here, got sarcastic.

Ed was being very nice in reporting what the media was saying!!!

"MEDIA WAS SAYING" Beign the key word

Some people would not have known becuase they do not have tv's at work. This was (IS) very important, and he thought he should of informed it to us that read the Palm Info Center

I say, thank you ED for the information. And everyone watch the news for further information. ( I think that was the main purpose!)Stop taking it personal. I did not see anyone in this post pointing their fingers at any ethnical groups!!

That said, Please Drop it!!!


wilco @ 9/11/2001 1:27:09 PM #
Right now, we can only stay calm and PRAY. PRAY for the affected people. The people in the Twin Towers, in the Pentagon, and everyone whose lives will forever be changed by this tragedy. As bradleyboy had said, there's not much we can do, unless we are near the disater area. So Let's just sent our prayers. With God help, we can overcome this tragedy. We will come out stronger.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 2:04:41 PM #
I'm afraid your "god" is the root cause of this tragedy. It's the irrational zealots (on both sides) fighting over a dump of worthless sand in the Middle East that has lead to this. Most great world tragedies can be traced back to some sort of religious conflict... when mankind finally grows up and thinks for itself instead of relying on all the supernatural mumbo-jumbo (christianity, muslim, hindu, jewish), maybe we won't be so inclined to kill each other.

I'll bet that when the investigation is over, it'll be some self-delussional cleric in a tent in some obscure corner of the Middle East (be it bin-ladin or some other loser) that will have heard from his "god" that it was time to kill his fellow man.

Praying won't help... it never does other than to shift the blame off yourself onto some fictional diety. Dropping your irrational superstitions and using logic for a change is what we really need. That and some support for the families of American heroes who died trying to help the victims today.

AriB @ 9/11/2001 2:26:47 PM #
I.M Fuc- you. Thousands of people died and yet you're so stuck up in your nihilistic ideology that you take potshots at people who want to pray for the victims of this tragedy? What a sicko

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 3:01:54 PM #
You are dead wrong - the 20th centuary was filled with more blood shed than all others combined, most in the name of nihilistic and atheistic philosophies. Does one forget the millions destroyed under the atheistic regimes of Stalin and Mao (est 15 million in Russia alone). Does one forget the work of the Nazi's following out Nietzchian philosophies? Bottom line, all types of people have been guilty of evil and atrocities...God help us. I agree, we need to pray.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 6:20:21 PM #
Exactly. There are secularistic terrorists too.

CarlBrooks @ 9/11/2001 6:59:12 PM #
I would like to respond to the inaccuracies in the post submitted by someone who believes so strongly in their belief that they chose to be "Anonymous".

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 2:04:41 PM wrote: "I'm afraid your "god" is the root cause of this tragedy. It's the irrational zealots (on both sides) fighting over a dump of worthless sand in the Middle East that has lead to this."

When you stated "I'm afraid your "god" is the root cause of this tragedy.", you are in fact both right and wrong. You are right in the fact that god (with a lower case "g") is responsible. Satan is the lower-case god of this earth. He obtained dominion over the earth when Adam and Eve chose to defy God's commandments. Satan, in fact, still uses people today (that are weak) to carry out his acts of destruction. Because you reject God, you also reject the tools that are available to prevent these acts - like prayer and the spreading of the gospel (which is the good word). The people responsible for these acts were fed lies that allowed them to be used for these horrific actions. The hijackers that flew these planes into the structures were mere puppets of the men that manipulated them. These puppeteers too are foolishly manipulated and controlled by this lower-case god.

Just as you are blinded from the truth, and inadvertently wrote the truth above, you are false in your intended communication that God is some how involved with this. the reason that many people fall for the counterfeit god is that the lies are tightly intertwined with truth. Any thing that is a counterfeit has enough of the real stuff in it to fool people. You are correct when you say that, "Most great world tragedies can be traced back to some sort of religious conflict... ". The bible says that "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places] - Eph 6:12". Therefore the battles that are fought on this earth are spiritual conflicts (or a "religious conflict" as you called it).

You wrote "when mankind finally grows up and thinks for itself instead of relying on all the supernatural mumbo-jumbo (Christianity, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish), maybe we won't be so inclined to kill each other."

"Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. - Prov.. 3:5-6"

It is when man tries to rationalize and determine that he is smart enough alone to fix the problem is when these situation arise. When he ,as you put it, "...grows up and thinks for itself instead of relying on all the supernatural mumbo-jumbo" is when he does not have a chance for the right outcome.

You wrote: "I'll bet that when the investigation is over, it'll be some self-delusional cleric in a tent in some obscure corner of the Middle East (be it bin-ladin or some other loser) that will have heard from his "god" that it was time to kill his fellow man."

Gods says: "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding - Prov. 9:10". What is fear of the Lord? "The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth - Prov. 8:13"

Clearly one who allows himself to carry out these types of acts are not one who fears God. They clearly have not acted with wisdom or knowledge of the truth.

You wrote: "Praying won't help... it never does other than to shift the blame off yourself onto some fictional deity. Dropping your irrational superstitions and using logic for a change is what we really need."

Read Proverbs chapter 10, and you'll see the distinct differences in people. There are of two types: one that accepts the truth and is wise, and one rejects truth and is foolish. The heart of the wicked is of little worth, they die in search of wisdom. It is as sport to a fool to do mischief. The tongue of the just is as choice silver, and their lips feed many and the desire if the righteous shall be granted - Prov. 10:20-24.

Prayer is the key. We must resist the devil and turn to God. Pray for those involved and affected by this mess. Admit that we don't know everything and that everything is not in control in the hands of man alone. God uses men to do good in the earth. We must chose to accept the responsibilities that we have - one of which is to pray.

You wrote that we need to focus on" for the families of American heroes who died trying to help the victims today."

There is good into you and you are seeking the truth that is why you wrote what you did. God has heard you and responded.

God says "I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone-- for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men--the testimony given in its proper time. And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles. I want men everywhere to lift up holy hands in prayer, without anger or disputing. - 1 Timothy 2:1-8"

Father, in the name of Jesus, We pray for those in authority. That they make the proper decisions concerning the swift capture and punishment of the misguided persons involved. We pray that people resist the fear that man might to implant in them to try and thwart the investigation. That they fear You and come forth with information that they know. We ask that your ministering spirits go forth and guide your people. To have your people boldly speak the truth - even more bolder than those willing to spread lies. We thank you for your angels that you have assigned to the issues of this day. You have given your angels charge over those affected by these events, to keep them about the actions that are in line with your ways. We reverence you and acknowledge you as our Lord and Savior. Thank you for the angel of the LORD who encamps all around your children and delivers them from perilous situations. We bless the families of the lost, the rescue workers, the nation's security experts, and all those mentioned above, that they may be powerful in the land, and fulfill their divine destiny. Amen.

God loyal before Palm loyal,

Carl Brooks
Palmloyal Author
911 - America pauses to absorb the impact of the terror

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:02:24 PM #
Sweet merciful crap! I can't believe you people!

The first estimate says that 10,000 people are dead (not injured, wounded, etc. but DEAD) and here you are quoting useless bible verses, debating over the existance of god or God or gOD or whatever! UN-FSCKING-BELIEVEABLE!

Drop the high and mighty tone and theological debates and just FEEL for the people and families affected by this mess.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:11:00 PM #
I can't believe this is going on in a Palm fourm but with the comment "Satan, in fact, still uses people today (that are weak) to carry out his acts of destruction", you yourself are shifting blame away from some very sick, delusional people who have no one else to blame but themsleves. This 'devil made me do it' stuff makes me sick.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:42:01 PM #
So not only are we Techies, your also religious freaks.

Again, Donate Blood for those in need!

No one can resolve right now the "GOD" vs "Devil" thing.

Do something to help, if not Shut UP. Praying just calms the soul of the person who is praying.

If God is so MIGHTY, what makes anyone think That WE Humans beings (misly little things) have the power to make HIM/HER/IT do stuff like we like it!!!

Drop the discussion, its useless, everyone has their conviction and no one is going to change it.

This is the reason why wars and things like today happen!!!

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 10:26:12 PM #
Jesus Christ, save me from your followers...

CarlBrooks @ 9/12/2001 7:59:13 AM #
Listen to yourself, you would rather "Drop the high and mighty tone and theological debates and just FEEL for the people and families affected by this mess." What will feeling for a person do? Pray can change things, feeling for somthing is just that. Do give blood, or donate money. Neither God nor the devil make anyone do anything. We have a free will. We chose which direction we go, whether good or bad.

Deuteronomy 30:19 - I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Some choose death and cursing as oppose to life and blessing.

"No one can resolve right now the "GOD" vs "Devil" thing. Do something to help, if not Shut UP. Praying just calms the soul of the person who is praying. If God is so MIGHTY, what makes anyone think That WE Humans beings (misly little things) have the power to make HIM/HER/IT do stuff like we like it!!!"

No one is trying to convert anyone here, if you are going to fill the pages with things that are incorrect, I will fill it up with the truth. I am not quoting my opinions, like you are. I am quoting God's word. Because you reject the truth does not make it a lie. I didn't start this thread, I'm reponding your posts.

Carl Brooks
Palmloyal Author
911 - America pauses to absorb the impact of the terror

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 8:03:24 AM #
Let's not turn this place into a debate over "religion". We cannot hope to convert those who do not believe in God through this venue, so discussion here will take us in a direction that is not beneficial to anyone reading these comments. If you are inclined to prayer, as I am, let's just do so. Who are we trying to help through these discussions? Are we genuinely concerned for the families of those who were killed, or do we just want to brag about our own beliefs and banter rhetorical platitudes about belief systems. In the finally analysis, what you do is between you and God. If you believe in a god with a small "g", then it's your choice. If you believe in God with a big "G", then you certainly know what you must do. Don't argue it here in this forum, let's just go to Him (with a big "H") and seek His guidance and protection from these atrocities. May God bless and watch over us all in these times.

superbenk @ 9/12/2001 9:59:01 AM #
If it wasn't for the love of God and the desire to be able to worship him freely or discuss him freely in any public (did you catch PUBLIC?) forum, you wouldn't have your blessed country, AMERICA, to be so proud of! This country was founded for the afore mentioned very reason. So before you go condemning the author of that original message, why don't you condemn the God fearing Christians who founded this country and made it possible for every right and freedom you have today. Please think about that BEFORE you try and remove some of these freedoms we have fought so hard to protect as well -- like the ability and right to speak of and worship God.

God is love and it is rediculous to say that he is the reason this happened. If you are to say that, you are completely ignorant of the subject and you sould be the one to shut up.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 10:43:03 AM #
Let's save our fury for the HAMMER that's going to come down. If this was done in the name of Allah (Blessed be His name), then let's help some of those that believe this way to meet their maker all the sooner.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 3:32:42 PM #
The majority of people thinking that retaliation is not right thing and asking what would it accomplish are thinking more with their heart than they are logically. Retaliation in this sense is to show that we as a world power will not stand for such acts of terrorism. In addition, by retaliating and retaliating hard we make sure that no one now or ever has the audacity to commit such a violent cowardice act again. We as Americans have assumed the role of the World police, in a sense. An attack on us is like saying its ok to go against your local authorities and nothing will happen. It gives rise to future attacks and shows weakness. This is not the situation we can allow ourselves to be put in as a world power! As peaceful people, we of course must think otherwise. What does killing the opposition and probably innocent people prove. This is not the situation we are put in; right now, we cannot allow ourselves to think in such a manner. But in a manner of "How can we prevent these acts from happening again."

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 11:33:45 AM #
The worship of the sky insults the men of earth.

YOU pray to your 'god' that (if he exsisted) is at least partially responsible for this - If only for standing by and letting it happen.

Personally, I think any ONE of those rescue workers is a thousand times greater than your so-called 'god' - At least they're actually DOING something.

CarlBrooks @ 9/14/2001 4:41:06 AM #
Lets be constructive and not destructive.

Here's how you can help the victims of Tuesday's tragedy.

Give Blood

Donate Funds Online Through The Red Cross

Donate Funds Online Through The United Way of New York City
United Way, 2 Park Ave, New York, New York, 10016

Pray for the Nation

Carl Brooks

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/16/2001 12:29:03 PM #
Hey screw all of you that would put down the 'Almighty GOD' and screw Satan and all his f_ _kin' aaraab freakin followers. God and Satan are real, just look @ the headlines morons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pray for peace and wisdom why dont you!!!

Any suspects as to whom might have done it?

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 1:44:12 PM #
Might have been China, they were pretty pissed about the spy planes.

Or it could be some other country trying to make some other country a scapegoat.

RE: Any suspects as to whom might have done it?
tiger_bb @ 9/11/2001 2:23:45 PM #
please stop guessing without any prove or facts support. don't you feel sad about this tragedy?

RE: Any suspects as to whom might have done it?
utp @ 9/11/2001 4:15:12 PM #
come on!
what the earth is this kind of people?
even FBI can't prove who did it right now, and you are now pointing your DAME finger to someone?

what all you should do, PRAY for people who was killed and hurt in this Terrorist Attacks!!

Stop this nonsense!

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 7:08:51 PM #
We need to send a few Stealth Bombers into Afghanistan and BOMB a few suspected areas of where Bin Laden is hiding. He is most probably responsible, and even if he isn't he has been proven to do so much other terrorism against us that he deserves it anyway. Also, he is on record as saying "It is the responsibilit of all Muslims to kill Americans". As far as I'm concerned, he needs to be stopped NOW before more Americans die. This is WAR! And I don't want to hear any Liberals tell me that "Innocent Until Proven Guilty" Crap - he is GUILTY! BOMB THAT BASTARD!

RE: Any suspects as to whom might have done it?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 7:44:14 PM #
amen to that

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:09:21 PM #
And this is why they don't allow freaks like you into the American military. Oh wait...

Officials: New information points to bin Laden
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:58:12 PM #
No Terrorist - uta criminal act
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 10:29:41 PM #
What Terrrorist?
What is this - anone having the word on the lip - what is a terrorist - always a evil arab were sitting with our asses right on their oil in SaudiArabia?

Whenever Coffe is spilled - Bin Laden is the one to be blamed - or someone else abroad - who is consequently bombarded - even if it is a milkfactory.
Never mind.

The tactic, organisation and execution points to a pretty homemade criminal act. Time will tell.

Just a few month ago there where rumors regarding the twin tower's change of ownership.

Lets pray for the poor souls
And thank to Ed - it is proper to show condolences on such a tragedy - good bless america

RE: Any suspects as to whom might have done it?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 7:30:41 AM #
Can't we take this discussion to alt.conspiracy or someplace like that. I'm sure its hopping about now.

RE: Any suspects as to whom might have done it?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 3:00:32 AM #
u idoit, u know little about chinese people,
in our culture, we believe there will be no end of revenges , we won't do such mad things.

I am sad for those people died in the incident, but i think you should think this twice while u watching the celebration in some other areas in middle east, why this happen? why they are happy to see the accident? are those people all terriost?

i am sure there will be more people die in the coming month, this time , not american, but do you think that will be the end?

please stop trying to rule the world you way.

Damn Communist
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 4:38:11 PM #

RE: Any suspects as to whom might have done it?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/14/2001 12:07:09 AM #
To think you made it out of high school, you are looking in the wrong direction. This is the most hoffific tragedy in the history of the great United Staes and our attention should be squarely focused on the families and loved ones of those that lost their lives or are injured. As we look towards the middle east, we will find the people responsible and when we do we will show the world exactly what the American military is capable of.

RE: Any suspects as to whom might have done it?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/16/2001 12:32:54 PM #
May 'bin laden' and all his followers BURN in freakin Hell forever and ever. Their false god 'alla' wont help them now!! Imagine the look on the 'pilots' of those planes as they stand before the gates of Hell!!!!


I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 2:09:03 PM #

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 2:11:11 PM #
Amen to that. God Bless America. God Bless Freedom. God Bless the Peace Loving World.

I.M. Anonymous @ 10/8/2001 2:30:27 PM #
Why do we have to have a war.

Commendable behaviour by those who run this board

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 3:13:07 PM #
I read this board maybe twice a week and have never posted to it, but I would like to say it is truly wonderful that the person running this board would think to post this. No other PDA board has posted anything concerning this and I feel that's irresponsible seen these boards are news sites, albeit specialized news sites, with a large cyber-circulation. I'm not sure where I'm really going with this; I just wanted to give credit where I feel it's do.

RE: Commendable behaviour by those who run this board
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 4:18:56 PM #
I second this - my impression was that it is entirely appropriate to shut down the board in light of this national tragedy.

RE: Commendable behaviour by those who run this board
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 4:34:31 PM #
I agree. I don't care who did it at this time. I'm more woried about the people who where directly affected. Once they are safe, then I'll worry about those responsible.

FWIW - Hal at Palmstation posted this too.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 4:57:43 PM #

RE: Commendable behaviour by those who run this board
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 10:00:09 PM #
I agree, I have PIC as my homepage and wasn't expecting to see anything about the attacks here, but I was very happy to see info about the attack.

RE: Commendable behaviour by those who run this board
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 9:15:37 PM #
I agree, comments by PalmInfo were appreciated. We could do without the religious debates. Thanks Ed.


I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 4:26:41 PM #
OK, let's stop the swearing and finger pointing.

You want to pray, please do, though I suspect anyone religious already is doing so and doesn't need the reminder. For those of us who believe praying is a waste of time you come off as trying to shove your beliefs down our throats (having experienced the wrath of those who won't just live and let live regardless of faith).

I'm sure both groups of that debate can agree that we are on the same side: that acts of terrorism cannot be tolerated and the loss of life here is truly tragic.

So lets not take fight each other in our stress and grief. This is exactly what those responsible for this reprehensible act want us to do.

RE: Civility
JDM @ 9/11/2001 7:28:30 PM #
I couldn't agree more. Whilst I must confess to be in no way religious I cannot bring myself, nor do I think I have the right, to condem other peoples beliefs. As Voltaire said "I disagree entirley with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". Apart from anything I cannot believe that this kind of talk is appropriate at this time. Surley it is the willingness to tolerate other peoples religious and other ideals that makes us different from the kind of terrorists who see it as their right to forcefully impose thier beliefs on others in the way we have seen today?

I hope that we can all come together, using communities and our common everday intersts such as PIC for mutual support. This is a sad day for the US and the whole world, as it represents not only the loss of thousands of innocent lives, but also the potential triumph of intolerance over mutual respect and understanding. Lets make sure that we don't contribute to this disaster by bickering amongst ourselves.

My thoughts hopes and sincre condolences, and those of all of us in the UK, are with the people who died in America today and their families.


Earth...mostly harmless.

RE: Civility
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 4:33:53 PM #
The problem isn't that some people are praying - it's that some people seem to want to wear their religion on their sleeves; they assume that all (or even most) of the people reading the board have religious convinctions similar to their own.

I have read so many messages that "God is control" and that "this is the work of Satan" that it makes my head spin. Either of those claims removes moral culpability from the MORTAL agents who engineered these acts. It seems to escape some folks that every religious person believes that God is on his or her side - even when two very religious sides are in conflict.

If people want to pray, they have every right. They also have the right to ask other people to pray. What they do not have the right to do is be surprised when it angers some people who either do not believe in any God, do not believe in the SAME God or do not believe that prayers have an effect (particularly prayers to a God who "allowed" those events to happen).

I think that most any moral being - even enemies of the United States - will agree that these events were tragic and wrong without bringing mythology into it.

RE: Civility
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 9:52:09 PM #
Thank you "I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 4:33:53 PM". One of the best posts I have seen here so far. Let people think for themselves but don't tell them that this god or that god did this and if they don't belive in god, they are simply not "enlightened and it's not their fault."

RE: Civility
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 11:22:29 PM #
The events in NY and DC are many things: they tragic, they are terrible; they are horrible. But they are not just an attack on the United States. They are despicable attacks on civilised society, they are foul crimes against humanity. Yesterday it was America who suffered - who will be the next victim? The moral is that unless all nations act now to stop terrorism, then such crimes will continue and they will grow worse. The terrorist organisations must be dealt with once and for all, by any means available.

Get your gas now!

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 4:39:55 PM #
I'd filled up all the tanks I had when it was still $1.60. You should, too! When we do bomb someone (and we will) gas prices will skyrocket!

RE: Get your gas now!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 9:55:54 PM #
I'm glad to see YOU have your priorities correct. Will you be the first to start selling tee shirts with pictures on them? Make a few bucks?

Jerk. Get lost.

RE: Get your gas now!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 7:18:16 AM #
Actually, the prices in my area rose $.25 almost immediately. This is useful infromation directly related to the events that transpired yesterday, many corporations will use this tragedy in any way they can to turn a profit.

RE: Get your gas now!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 6:02:52 PM #
actually, somewhere aroung here jumped it up to $7!!!! Most places are around $4, with very few in the $2 range (but if u go to pdq, they're at $1.99 (9/10))

God bless the internet!!!

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 4:45:38 PM #
My mother works in Chinatown which is a very short distance from the Twin Towers and it was the internet that brought me word that she was OK. This morning I was frantically trying to contact her but phones were down and forget cel phones, but an email from her assured me she was OK. As this is a tech oriented site I just wanted to say when all else failed technology was had my back.


I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 5:09:22 PM #
I've had this idea for a while: Deploying a highly-specialized technical team to go in with the Red Cross, FEMA, etc. in times of natural or international disaster and set up a technology command support center. The basic idea is to go in and provide an internet-based infrastructure to aid relief workers.

Imagine: having quickly available a pre-built organizational site, backed by database tables to hold data on loss of property, life, people accounted for, temporary email access and more.

Even more, deploying a wireless LAN of PDA enabled aid workers, plus laptops, etc. gives people the ability to quickly and accurately get information into the central servers, and then distributed to people all over the world.

What would it take to make this a reality? A set of satellite data links, a slew of left-over or decommissioned laptops, some networking equipment, a couple of high-power servers in a fairly secure data center (and even mirrored sites for extra availability), PDAs, and most of all -- PEOPLE.

I first thought of this during the Bosnian events, then during the floods in Houston, and now with this. I think getting corporations to donate both $, gear and people's time will be key -- How do we make it a reality?

At the risk of a huge amount of bad email, here's my personal address:

Any ideas on how to move this foward would be great --


RE: TechAngles
bcombee @ 9/12/2001 3:59:46 AM #
This kind of thing is already done with ham radio operators, who have an emergency relief mandate as part of their licensing requirements. Given that they already do this a lot, it might be good to work with them to get more computer equipment in the loop and see if they can enable communications for more people in bad situations like this.

RE: TechAngles
johnbartley @ 9/12/2001 6:35:53 PM #
Ben's right... set up 802.11b alongside hams (and RACES folks <>) to support them, as they can provide handitalkies to folks who are not yet digitized. They know well how to deal with this and would appreciate support on the data side of things.

Palm related news?

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 6:40:24 PM #
i thing it is a bit off topic, or is it they where using a palm to organise there action?

RE: Palm related news?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 8:07:26 PM #
are you blind, or just stupid? Ed said that he posted this because other news sites were overloaded. This is a human tragedy, and this is a news site, so kudos to Ed for posting it for those who were stuck without access to the news

RE: Palm related news?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 9:19:13 PM #
Anyone who can't access to his favorite news via Palm is Palm related.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 9:27:34 PM #
Hey, Mr. British... (organise???) Mind your own business... If you can't give us "True Blue Americans" any sympathy, go somewhere else!!!!!!

A tragic event.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 10:53:33 PM #
We have seen the atrocitiy of this terrorist act. One can wonder who is responsible for killing the lives of many. Including children.... that is no way to end a life. However, as abominable this may seem, this incident is a mere walk in the park compared to what happens in Israel... for they face the constant fear of something like this everyday. Suicide bombers- unstoppable and deadly. Although the casualties are in the thousands, we must be thankful it is not in the millions. We must now think twice about our liberty as an American.... we must not take it for granted like we have been- just not knowing it. I am overly disgusted. May the perpatrators get whats coming to them.

RE: A tragic event.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/11/2001 11:57:19 PM #
Thank you for saying this.
all day I've been pondering how we americans had it so cushy, without a war on our soil in over 100 years, only the attack on pearl harbor. which, while similar to this one, is far surpassed by the sheer numbers of casualties today. i've been thinking about everybody in the middle east, in ireland, much of africa, asia, south america -- basically, the rest of the world -- who deal with disasters like this on a daily basis. sure, tens of thousands of people aren't killed in a matter of hours on a daily basis, but human lives add up, and the tragedies around the world make today seem like a drop in the bucket. as painful as it is, it's a wake-up call that we can't pretend this is a happy, peaceful world, and continue to ignore the brutality outside our borders.

p.s. still having problems posting logged in. sorry this says "I.M. Anonymous."

RE: A tragic event - not quiet Israel
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 12:08:36 AM #
Although I certainly agree that Israelis face this daily, the magnitude and location of this bombing make it very different. I would be unnerved to take the subway right now - when was the last time you saw a "report suspicious packages" sign in NYC? We now face what we are not prepared for. Security needs to be boosted nationwide - if not to Israeli levels, at least to that of UK. America is in shock. Such an event would not occur in Israel - I'm sure it is a more desirable (to terrorists) but not achievable target.
Realize that more Jews died in the towers (probably 10-20% Jewish) than throughout the past decade in Israel. Terror of such magnitude is very different from anything experienced elsewhere. The Israeli response to something like this would be a blanket attack on a country. What will the US do?

RE: A tragic event.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 6:12:01 AM #
I live in the UK, and agree that US aviation security needs to be toughened. I know this has been talked about many times in the past and not many long term changes made. However I think it's worth pointing out that the security levels we have in the UK, while fairly tight, are perhaps not as oppresive or restrictive as many Americans (or certainly much of the US media) believe. We do have slightly more rigorous x-ray and screening of passengers and bags, but this rarely causes significant queuing (ie more than 1 minute) except at peak times. More significant I think is the underlying layout and design of the processes at airports. eg. only passengers can go 'airside', arriving and departing passengers never come into contact with each other airside. These changes would not create much inconvenience for the traveller. Anyway, my thoughts for what they're worth. Well done Ed for the sensitive way you've handled this today.

RE: A tragic event.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 10:22:14 PM #
> for they face the constant fear of something like this everyday.

You shouldn't expect love and security when you go and occupy someone's motherland.

> Although the casualties are in the thousands, we must be thankful it is not in the millions. We must now think twice about our liberty as an American....

What a shame! The main cause of this tragic event are Israeli people. And now you're telling Americans they should be thankful the deaths haven't been in millions??

RE: A tragic event.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 10:50:11 PM #
to the previous anti-American/anti-Israeli post: I sincerely hope whatever radical hole you crawled out of gets bombed real soon. remember: palestinians are dancing on American's graves

go read a history book

RE: A tragic event.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 4:22:20 AM #
Any reasonable critic on Israli policy if strictly forbidden - may it be as small as could be. If you dare - your smeard as fashist. Righ?

RE: A tragic event.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 5:30:32 AM #
Anybody else naming responsible for the horrible deed as Bin Laden is officially forbidden - do not even think about. We are thinking for you.
Better dont think at all.

RE: A tragic event.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 5:34:08 AM #
It has to be under any circumstances a muslim - no other minority allowed - not even as masterminders behind.

Shoot them on the spot and do not let them talk (as done with Milosevic at the "international war criminal tribunal")

So you get nice and political absolute correct coverage.
If it cannot be done, no problem. Make a movie in Hollywood and push it as real over the channels to the masses, like we have done with great sucess at the heroic golf war.

Read a good history book
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/15/2001 4:52:23 PM #
A very good advise!

And when in the library ask for the report of the "Joint Committee on the investigation of the Pearl Harbor Attack” (15.11.1945-31.05.1946)
You will find that Roosevelt tricked Congress and the US & world population to press the US into IIWW they did not want at that time. The Japanese code was decrypted months ago and Roosevelt was informed precisely when the Pearl Harbor Attack would come. He knowingly let 2.600 soldiers die for this aim Pearl Harbor.
Look at today.
The US oil companies want a pipeline though Afghanistan at any cost – hardly possible under Taliban control, the drug production of the biggest producer must be curbed, Bin Laden, a by-product of former wrong US policy, can be quietened, and Israel can do whatever they like to the Palestinians now.
Bushs Policy "hang’em high – whoever it is” is necessarily spreading and leading to IIIWW.
Probably in 50 years, when we go to a library, we see this enormous tragic event also much differently than today– and more sober.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/15/2001 7:13:16 PM #

A tragic event leading to WWIII
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/16/2001 12:55:57 AM #
Hi "Slimeball" - would be good to know your maiden name!
See a library and dont have bad feelings for beeing bad educated - it is fashion today not cool evaluating the facts visible in any library for free black on white but loving artificial constructed Hollywood lies. The underdogs love this.
If US politics follow your fashion there is no library left in a few years anymore.


I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 8:16:55 PM #

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 10:56:40 PM #
And who will you punish deter and defend if this proves to _not_ be the work of terrorists from outside the U.S. , but the acts of another Timothy McVeigh, or David Koresh??
Where will you send the bombs if it turns out the attack on the WTC or Pentagon was orchestrated by a Christian from Colorado??

Let's just say that you _do_ bomb the person you organised all this: who else might be killed? Who else would be maimed, orphaned, traumatised? And when will they send their own bombs back for "justice", their own "freedom", and to "punish and deter" _you_?

The simplicity in your thinking is pathetic and, quite frankly, disturbing.

PUNISH, DETER the right one!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 3:39:16 AM #

It’s as trivial as in an ordinary criminal story.

Ask yourself who might benefit and you have the culprit.

The group who has enormous criminal and brutality potential and where masterminding and orchestrating this militarily organised strategy perfect, has surely also the capability to set up misleading traces.

Just look the real Kennedy murder.

For very political reasons, the investigators bite now the open laid out bait. That’s what is happening now.

The biggest mistakes would be to go to war at random for shortsightes reasons and face more incredible brutal attacks on the free world from the still safe and hidden professional and brutal whackos.

On the other hand: let us not forget that the core of the problem might be the CIA strategy itself that is backfiring now.

Milosevic, Saddam, Bin Laden, Sharon – and more of the same breed where former or are still active CIA agents.

Listen to Vidal Gore – one of the most prominent and helpful critics of the American society – he may be not always right in all his considerations, but certainly, he very often has a point.

On this he surely has...

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 6:59:30 AM #

My Solution
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 7:08:06 AM #
1. Seal Off All ****pits with a unbreakable policy that no matter what happens, they can't open the locked heavy door.
2. Immediately DEPORT all non-US citizen ARABS out of the country. We do not need/want them here and they ARE A SECURITY RISK. Do not let any more in the country. SHIP THE ALl BACK AND DON'T LET ANY MORE IN THE COUNTRY! It's a shame, but now we have no choice!
3. Bomb the **** out of Bin Laden's Operations known locations.

The time for fun and games is long over.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 8:45:06 AM #
To the poster of:
Posted by:  I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 6:59:30 AM

From where do you have your knowledge - The US media?
What makes you so sure it was not the mossad?

Who benefitted is the one - do not forget

Bin Laden and friends are TOAST! We will destroy them!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/15/2001 2:07:18 PM #

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/17/2001 9:46:51 AM #
And get by that more attacks because you beat the wrong dog. Some never get it...

Emergency Communicatioins

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 9:11:19 PM #
I know cell phones and land lines were pushed to capacity. Does anyone know if Blackberry, Motorola 2-way pagers, Palm VIIs, or GSM SMS were still reliable ways of comunicating during the first few hours?

Motorola 2-way was the only way I could get a hold
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 10:17:14 PM #
of my buddy in NYC when cell phone and land lines were down minutes after the first crash. I sent him an email simply asking "Are you OK??"....Moments later (to my relief) he emailed me back a simple "wow...yes".

A thought

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/12/2001 11:12:47 PM #
I think the passengers on the fourth plane, the ones who rushed the hijackers, deserve a medal. They probably saved thousands of innocent lives (who knows where that plane would otherwise have been crashed) even though they were killed in the attempt to wrest back control of the plane. Those guys are heroes in my book.

RE: A thought
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 3:23:21 AM #
I agree. I admire these guys to no end, and their survivors can be proud of them. The passengers on the other planes, unfortunately, had no idea of what was going on.

I think the moral of the story is: once you're in the hands of terrorists, you're as good as dead anyway, so you should probably fight like hell and not be lulled into inaction by empty promises that "you won't be hurt".

Military action at this point is pointless. Plane manufacturers need to massively improve in-flight security to prevent further highjackings, and the intelligence guys need to get off their duff and penetrate this various terror groups. Armed marshalls on all flights wouldn't hurt either.

RE: A thought
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 7:35:53 AM #
Do u all forget how many innocent children, people, have died because of the imperialistic, fascist government of the US?Do u all think that you always are the good ones and kill the bad guys? It is a shame for the innocent people who died, but US government and citizens must now understand that EVERYTHING comes at a cost! You cannot kill, bomb innocent people, and not have an answer! It would happen sooner or later... Not to the U.S. but to ANYONE who thinks he can rule the world and do whatever he likes! For US citizens if something is not on the T.V. news it is like it never even happenned! Do u all Americans know how many people your "democratic" government has bombed and killed? Do u know how many children are now starving to death because of you? No! Because your T.V. does not show those things! Of course u are not better when you reply to killing with killings, but it is an answer. Wake up, if the U.S. goes on with this war, more innocent people will die again,around the whole world!

RE: A thought
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 8:38:13 AM #
Until now US / Israel bombarded and destroyed at there own comfort and laws - now for the first time they get a dose of their own medicine they handed to Burma, Vietnam, Irak, Dresden, Bosnia, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Sudan, Afganistan and so on.

Whats up?

Graham Allisson - US politic analyser - herald tribune 13.09.2001

RE: A thought
Kaitou @ 9/13/2001 9:17:56 AM #
you radical little pricks. trying to troll at a time like this, is a tad low. The US helps countries around the world. Every disaster, earthquake, and there is a US team on the ground in the area, offering supplies and searching for victims. And there is usualy an Israeli team there also. Why is it at any disaster it suddenly becomes popular to blame the US? Tell you what, when your despotic little thirld world country manages to help anyone, feel free to tell someone. This thread is about the heroes on the fourth plane, not for you to get off on tryng to play bash the victim.

RE: A thought
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 11:04:07 AM #
The self concienceful aid given like candys never ouweights Burma, Vietnam, Irak, Dresden, Bosnia, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Sudan, Afganistan

As Sabra and Shatila cannot cope with a few search dogs for jews under some rubble.

100.000 dead japaese civilians in a second in Nagasaki do not tell anything to you - does it?

Its not a atrosity in your view- indeed something the US never even excused for it.

It still stands firmly and can be followed in any history book, your the fist time - and we are honestly mourning with you for the criminal deed and deeply frustrated what happened to NY - victims of your own medicine you have constantly with full thoottle, provided to others.

Read the Herald Tribune - not exactly a anti israel newspaper or listen to Vidal Gore and open your eyes.

RE: A thought
Kaitou @ 9/13/2001 11:35:38 AM #
there is a difference between an action taken during war, and a terrorist attack in peacetime.
In anycase, I have no intention of feeding trolls, so this is my last reply to you on this matter, Anonymous coward.

RE: A thought
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 11:38:50 AM #
The action taken against Burma - leaving 700.000 dead was in a time of peace - US never declaered war.

And what was your business in vietnam anyhow, killing the population at random?

Go read a good history book and brush up your intelligence - not naming others trolls for only having a broader view than you.

This is also my last posting to this ignorant citicen who sees the US military always above all laws the other have strictly to obey - if not civil population is beeing bombed at random by f-15 fighterjet - in a moderate case.

It stands - you got you medicine you feeded us for so long.

RE: A thought
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 11:44:08 AM #
> They probably saved thousands of innocent lives (who knows where that plane would otherwise have been crashed)

That's true. They certainly did save thousands of lives. But in my opinion the plane was shut down by US air-force rather than the passengers or the pilot, for the same reason you mentioned. During the past days I haven't seen any close-up shots of the plane on TV or on a news website. Any words from other missing airplanes?

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 1:38:24 PM #
We express our deepest condolences to the victims, their relatives and friends of the cruel terror attack.

We Europeans stand shoulder on shoulder with our close US friends in these dark times.

Together we firmly stand and shall prevail over the terror.

Thank you Ed. for this internet site.

Boris von Luhovoy
Publishing Editor
Palmtop-Pro Magazin

RE: A thought
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 8:39:45 PM #
I started this thread and, while I value the right of free speech, some of the above posts were not called for.

In response to some of those messages I would say this: Justice will be done here. Sometimes justice demands mercy; sometimes justice demands harsh punishment. Those who aidded and abbeted these crimes will learn just how strict justice can be.

I am not an American, but I hope that America continues to carry the torch of freedom and democracy for the sake of all humanity.

Thank you, sir.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/14/2001 10:03:49 PM #

Microsoft donates $10 Million to Bombing Relief

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/13/2001 9:46:05 PM #
fyi - For all you MSFT bashers...

Microsoft Joining Recovery Efforts

REDMOND, Wash. -- Sept. 12, 2001 -- Microsoft Corp. today announced that it is making a donation of $10 million in cash and technical services to support the relief and recovery efforts in New York City and other areas affected by the tragic events of September 11.

RE: Microsoft donates $10 Million to Bombing Relief
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/15/2001 10:38:34 PM #
Except half of that was software which they claimed to have a value of $5 million. I personally don't think that half counts.

RE: Microsoft donates $10 Million to Bombing Relief
Davy @ 9/15/2001 11:04:39 PM #
Considering how much money Bill Gates himself has, 5 million in cash is pretty pathetic.

I'm sure Bill will give more but just not advertise it.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/16/2001 9:25:59 AM #

Time for reflection, investigation & preparation.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/14/2001 1:33:22 AM #
Now is the time for reflection, investigation and

It is neither appropriate nor prudent for us to jump
to conclusions and make rash decisions. Such
inappropriate actions would only increase the number
of people who would be willing to commit such acts
upon us in the future.

Furthermore, if we lash out blindly, we may
mistakingly strike current and potential friends and
allies -- not to mention, an unacceptable number of
innocent men, women and children. We must not fall
into the type of endless and unforgiving spiral of
"eye-for-an-eye" retribution that street gangs and
some third world nations fall into.

This is a time for reflection:
What we as a nation lost yesterday was our collective
illusion of security. This has already adversely
affected, among many other things, the value of our
dollar, whose only real worth comes from the worlds
perception of America as a haven of stability and
financial security. Further, the loss of the worlds
largest financial center will have unknown and
widespread repercussions. Of course, the loss of 4 to
40 thousand lives is utterly unmeasurable.

This is also a time for investigation and preparation:
The only real way to regain some sense of our lost
security and financial power, is to determine who
committed this act and prepare to strike back
meaningfully and appropriately at whomever aided and
orchestrated this unthinkable disaster.

A dose of Reality:
An overt act of war has been thrust upon us -- we must
now brush off our wounds, regain our composure,
determine who is responsible, remember the principles
of freedom & liberty that make our country what it is,
and make damn sure that terrorists around the world
know this:

"If you strike us we will strike back. The
organization that is responsible for Tuesdays
attack, along with those that harbor and aid that
organization, will be hit and hit HARD. They will
serve as an example that we no longer view mass
terrorism as simply a criminal act -- that we now
reserve the right to wage war against those who
perpetuate and support it."

RE: Time for reflection, investigation & preparation.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/14/2001 10:28:24 AM #
It is a shame for all those victims. I am really sad as a human being. I sympathise any human being that is being killed, especially when this involves civilians. However US are a bunch of f* hypocrits who pretend to help in order to serve their own interests. If this involves killing thaousands of people, they do not care. Take a history book and you will see... If this is not easy, remember a bit of our latest Sarajavo stories... While civilians were being killed, Americans were eating potato chips... For me there is no big difference between the man who did this and George Bush or Bill Clinton... They just wear different clothes...

Where are your from, Dirtball?
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/14/2001 7:27:35 PM #


I.M. Anonymous @ 9/15/2001 1:00:16 AM #

From Sérgio Ricardo M da Rocha Santos

Thank you, Mr. Brazil.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/15/2001 8:23:10 AM #


I.M. Anonymous @ 9/16/2001 9:43:10 AM #
09/16 06:57
Americans Willing to Go to War, Bush Approval at 84%, NYT Says
By Rachel Layne

New York, Sept. 16 (Bloomberg) -- The United States should take military action against whoever is responsible for attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, 85 percent of people in a New York Times/CBS poll said, the paper reported.

Seventy-five percent said such action should be taken even if innocent people were killed, the telephone poll of 959 adults across the U.S. taken Thursday and Friday shows, the paper said. The public also favors changing the law to allow assassination of people in countries outside the U.S. that commit terrorist attacks, the paper said.

Another 84 percent approve of the job President George W. Bush is doing, up from 50 percent just more than a month ago. Seven of 10 said Bush, a Republican, is a strong leader, including 55 percent of Democrats. That's his highest rating since he took office and is up from 54 percent in June, the paper said.

Though more than half polled said they didn't think Arab- Americans were more sympathetic toward terrorists than other citizens, they do expect a backlash against Arab-Americans, Muslims and the Middle East, the paper said.

(NYT 9/16

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/16/2001 10:07:32 AM #
Following this stupid idea you have to bomb most probably Florida, Hamburg and Israel - there where the terroristst hiding and feeding - nothing is more wrong than this brainless cowboy approach!

We only attack those that attack us you slimeball.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/16/2001 12:58:19 PM #

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/16/2001 10:56:51 PM #
So I would immediately attack the things I know for sure - this are first the trainingcamps of the terrorrists - This are the US airforce colleges and some private firms in florida.

So instruct the US airforce to bomb itself.

Given the intellectual state of G.W.B - it should be easy enough to convince him on that - and you too.

Any other involvement is still unclear - exept for war mongers

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/17/2001 2:32:45 AM #
<09/16 06:57
And 98% of American men want to have a free bjob from Mrs.
Levinsky on social cecurity card and 99% do not want to pay taxes – not a sound argument for starting a probably atomic war at random, against a "suspect". Dont forget Pakistan has the bomb and the means transporting them at least as far as to Israel.
You never know where a miscalculation of forces drawn in the matter may lead to.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/17/2001 4:13:29 AM #
All american involvement since 1948 ended in a lot of plastic bags shipped home - exept when bombing innovent civilians, toy- and milkfactories which cannot run fast enough from high flying heavy bomb dropping aircrafts.

Not Gulf War or Libya Raid, Slimeball. We kicked butt!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/17/2001 8:34:31 AM #

Slimeball kicks you
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/17/2001 9:09:01 AM #
Saddam thinks quite different - he smiles all over his face same as Muhamadd Ghadaffy - your a joke my friend...

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/17/2001 9:39:49 AM #
How many US presidents has Fidel Casto seen after seven murder attemts from the CIA?

4 or 6?

How many has Sadam Hussein seen?
And how many big drug barons in the US?

You are dirty, stinky, filthy, Anti-Americans.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/17/2001 5:00:43 PM #
What dirty, stinky, filthy country do you slimeballs come from???

A sober US lover
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/17/2001 5:07:48 PM #
From a country which got the nice comfort of US bombardment and terror - now here is your problem: the US has bombarded half the world already.
Still I rate US people very high and have deep respect of the american society and the kindeness of thins country (apart from uneducated dummies like you - boy) still I rate US politicians corrupt and / or stupid - The difference between us: I have a broad view and know history - hardly your strong point my boy.
Where could I come from?

there is no terror at all
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/20/2001 9:30:42 AM #
There is not terror or terrorist attack as such.
What is, are different levels of private or state force.
Starting from bulldozing civilian houses, cutting water supply, depriving of education, forced starvation, to hitting innocent people with A-bombs as in Nagasaki, Hiroshima or eliminating Dresden civilians by traditional means to the hitting of a building with an aeroplane. Arafat was a terrorist like all Israeli leaders until now - now there all together a bunch of elderly statesman.
Its all a matter of view and force (financially and militarily) and being able to convince the world opinion maker that the OWN force is the only one legitimate- not a matter of moral. A matter of having the means of transporting the own view through the media as the only right one and being either "Gods own country” or "Gods selected people”.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/20/2001 10:59:02 AM #
The flight number of the first Airline which hit the tower was Q 33 NY

Copy that Q 33 NY to a Word document - set the font to Wingdings and be surprised

NYC: no broadcast TV

mikecane @ 9/17/2001 9:12:51 AM #
This is something people outside of NYC might not know: except for CBS, *all* broadcast networks transmitted from the antenna on top of the WTC. Since their attack and destruction, only CBS is available over the air. UHF stations have always been hard to get over the air; at one point the UHF station for Home Shopping Network was carrying ABC -- but after 72 hours, they went back to shilling cubic zirconias. Ch 25 is out of Brooklyn with low power; they then carried ABC. When ABC ended wall-to-wall coverage, 25 picked up NY1 (a local NYC news-only channel that is only on local cable!). Chs 41 and 47 are Spanish-language; only 41 has been available.

Company bans American flag

mikecane @ 9/17/2001 9:35:22 AM #
They just changed their policy.
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/17/2001 4:59:19 PM #

Enough have died

PIC mobile user @ 3/21/2002 9:50:48 AM #
I must say initually I sat and wanted immediate retribution for what had happened as the tears ran down my face and I thought of all destroyed families and friends. However, the more I witnessed the devestation the more I came to the realization of not wanting anyone or any other nation to experience the pain we feel now. Yes, I want the persons who are behind this to be caught and punished but just them. Let's not have America's now bruised ego and pride give breed to more senseless loss. Even though others may laugh and celebrate our trauma we need not retailiate against them for democracy gives us the freedom to our own opinion. While I understand I stand with the minority, I stand here with my opinion.


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