Comments on: Review: Sony PEG-N610C

When Sony introduced the N series last Spring, some complained that the N710C's built-in MP3 player increased its price by giving them a feature they didn't want. Sony responded by releasing the N610C, which is very similar to the N710C except with the audio capabilities left out and a lower price. News Editor Ed Hardy gives us this review.
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No memory stick

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 9:33:35 AM #
I'd agree with the full review except for the comment that a memory stick should be included. I'd rather they reduce the price by $20 so I can buy my own memory stick in the size I choose. I have a 710c and bought a 128 card, so I'm stuck with a measly 8mg stick still sitting in the box.

One comment that I really agree with is that the buttons are too small (I'd say way to small) Sony really dropped the ball on this and I haven't seen anyone mention of it. If you play games that use the buttons it makes it much more difficult. In contrast, the Prism buttons are excellent, they're a nice size and they have a great resistance to them.

All in all, I love my 710C and I'm psyched for the 4.1 release.

I like the color

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 9:47:34 AM #
I like the blue/violet color and bought one. But then I'm not afraid of being seen as a "women" like the reviewer. I guess I'm just more secure that way. Also the buttons and the scroll buttons need improvmenet. You didn't say anything about that.

RE: I like the color
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 9:54:24 AM #
You get a Not Satisfactory in Reading and Comprehending class for today. Check out the fourth paragraph.
    Below the screen on the front of the N610C are the hardware buttons with a single rocker switch for up and down. These are a bit harder to push than I'm used to, which makes fast games that involve a lot of button pushing more difficult than they ought to be.

RE: I like the color
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 10:42:58 AM #
THe reason that it is purple is because if you have seen any of Sony's computer mostly laptops they are that same purple color....I love the purple color becauise it matches my sony laptop

RE: I like the color
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 1:30:29 PM #
He briefly mentioned the rocker switch and nothing aobut the buttons. Reread it yourself moron.

RE: I like the color
dwarchbold @ 9/19/2001 2:51:44 PM #
Look at the "Cons" sidebar. He mentions the buttons are hard to press.

Also, the 610 case is nearly identical to the 710. It stands to reason that any shortcomings of the 710 would also be in the 610.

In reality, I think the buttons are "okay". Not the greatest, but certainly usable. They do take some getting used to though, and I suspect someone with larger fingers may have a more difficult time adjusting to them.

Sony buttons

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 10:08:40 AM #
I found your review of the N610C excellent except you did not mention how horrible the buttons on
this device, as well as Sony's other new Clies, are for doing anything but the very basic functions.

It seems odd that Sony would have dropped the ball on these as the rest of the unit is outstanding.

I also hope other manufacturer's begin supporting the Clie series with some descent add-on peripherals.

And yes I know Targus already has the great stow-a-way keyboard available and mine is on order.

Out of my 17 different Palm OS PDAs, this one is just about to become my favorite.

RE: Sony buttons
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 10:46:47 AM #
17 palm pda's? man you're ill!

RE: Sony buttons
bradleyboy @ 9/19/2001 11:11:42 AM #
17 Palm OS pda's??? Wow..

Gee, have there actually been 17 different models, or do you have duplicates?

Palm Pilot 1000
Palm Pilot 5000
Palm Pilot Personal
Palm Pilot Professional
Palm III
Palm IIIc
Palm IIIe
Palm IIIx
Palm IIIxe
Palm V
Palm Vx
Palm VII
Palm VIIx
Palm m100
Palm m105
Palm m125
Palm m500
Palm m505

Well, that's 18 right there, and I haven't even counted Sony, Handspring, or Handera. Gosh, these things pile up, don't they?



P.S. I have to agree on the Clie button issue, in particular the rocker button. It is not at all easy to use and downright frustrating.

RE: Sony buttons
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 11:55:16 AM #
I have no problem with the buttons. The Clie 610 is the perfect size. If they increased the size of the unit to accommodate larger buttons, that would be bad. I agree that the rocker is difficult to use, but I rarely use the rocker. The jog dial and the stylus do everything I need them to do.

Hurry with the I/O peripherals, SONY

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 10:20:15 AM #
There really is an urgent need for SONY to develop its I/O peripherals. Otherwise this brilliant screen is in danger of being an idiot savant. I want to wirelessly check and respond emails and go online and communicate with the rest of the world.

RE: Hurry with the I/O peripherals, SONY
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 11:09:19 AM #
Ditto, Ditto, Ditto, - When is Sony going to step it up with a wireless add-on or an all in one???

Soon, please I'm in desperate need of replacing my Vx & Omnisky.

RE: Hurry with the I/O peripherals, SONY
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 4:02:45 PM #
I agree with this, I still have a Palm Vx with the OmniSky modem, and don't plan on upgrading to any PDA until I see a really nice wireless solution. The Pocket PC 2002 devices look tempting as well, but even then I'm not going to buy one unless they come with an elegant solution for wireless access. The iPaq solution didn't interest me (where you had to keep the sleeve on it and then have that Sierra AirCard thing or whatever it was).

Whatever next generation device I buy will most likely be based on which has the best wireless internet options.

Great device at a great price!!!

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 11:01:04 AM #
I think this pda is the best Palm OS device out there. If you do your research you can find a 610 for under the $399.00 price tag (I got mine from dell for $330.00). Also yea would of like to see a 8mb memory stick included but considering the price I paid I'm not complaing. You can pick an 8mb MS on ebay for under $15.00. Also I do not think the violet color is feminine at all! I travel at least once a month on business and I have recieved many compliments on the color from both men and women. I think its a pretty funky color and believe more pda makers should release more than just silver, grey or black colors.

RE: Great device at a great price!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 2:39:25 PM #
I got my 610c/v for $299, but I won't tell you how.

RE: Great device at a great price!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 2:55:24 PM #
>I got my 610c/v for $299, but I won't tell you how. 'bout a reward for this moron. "Most useless post of the millenium" perhaps?

RE: Great device at a great price!!!
Marte @ 9/20/2001 12:44:48 AM #
Hey friend I got mine for $400.00, so what.???
And if I lost it I would buy another one in no time.
Looks to me you can't afford $400.00......Perhaps there's a lot of people that can't afford it too....Maybe you should use this way of communicating to let people benefit just as all of us do......I'm sure you benefit as well from this site.......Don't be a fool?

RE: Great device at a great price!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/2/2001 3:52:25 AM #
And hey, I have a dozen Rolex watches to sell the first replier. What a dope! Its probably the same person who shaved his head to look like Michael Jordan. I have some authentic Michael Jordan earings to sell you too - at really good prices.

RE: Great device at a great price!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/2/2001 3:59:51 AM #
$299 ay? Sure, and I have a one-way ticket in your name for a non-stop flight from Boston to L.A. ITS FREE! Just for you.

RE: Great device at a great price!!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/22/2001 4:14:02 PM #
They are $299 at eCost (

Good review

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 4:02:37 PM #
It's a good review... Yes, I think 610 is the best PDA
in today's market. Perfect screen, expansion , Jog dial
and 320 x 320 Hi-res ....and good battery life

The App you can't talk about...

MrMark @ 9/19/2001 6:17:57 PM #
"Another good hi-res app is one that will be announced later this week that I'm not allowed to talk about other than to say it that it makes great use of all the additional screen real estate, if you are willing to live with a really small font."

Hmmmmmmmmmm...Will you please post a story on this app when released?

BTW, I have a 610 (used to use a IIIx) and love it.

RE: The App you can't talk about...
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/20/2001 1:15:30 PM #
I would be interested in know what this is also!!

RE: The App you can't talk about...
Ed @ 9/20/2001 3:31:25 PM #
It's TinySheet 4, which was just announced:

News Editor


I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 8:01:58 PM #
Hey Ed,

Have'nt read the review yet, but thanks for posting it. I placed my order for the N610c last night, should get here by Sat.


take the stylus and SMELL IT

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 8:51:33 PM #
Hold the stylus up to your nose and take a big whiff. Can you honestly say it doesn't smell like utter sh*t? I thought my own was defective but I bought a 3-stylus replacement pack and all of them started smelling too. When my friends ask to see my new clie the 1st thing they notice after the nice screen is the smell from the stylus.

Anyway I've just ordered a PDAPanache stylus ... it's been a week and it hasn't come :(

RE: take the stylus and SMELL IT
frox @ 9/19/2001 10:19:54 PM #
Yes, it smells like a Sh*t !!

RE: take the stylus and SMELL IT
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/19/2001 10:38:39 PM #
I just smelled mine from my new 610 and it smells like metal. Maybe yours just needs to be washed or something.

RE: take the stylus and SMELL IT
fparter @ 9/20/2001 12:20:56 AM #
Maybe if you quit storing them up your *ss,
that wouldn't happen.

RE: take the stylus and SMELL IT
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/20/2001 12:22:44 AM #
Well yeah it's metal but it's a putrid metal. My Visor Deluxe stylus didn't smell like this. It's like its made of some nasty material that reacts with the air to form..blah

RE: take the stylus and SMELL IT
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/20/2001 9:48:14 AM #
Who SMELLS a stylus? and WHY??

RE: take the stylus and SMELL IT
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/21/2001 1:27:55 AM #
Thanks for the informative post!

(I thought it was my finger)

RE: take the stylus and SMELL IT
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/25/2001 12:31:58 AM #
Can't you just see thousands of people from all over the country yanking out there stylus and giving it a good whiff? People are standing around the water cooler, passing a stylus to one another... "Hey Brenda... Smell this? What do you think it smells like?"
I can't wait to find a 610C so I can smell for myself...


Faster than 710C?

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/20/2001 12:43:46 AM #
I played around with the 610C and 710C at Circuit City for quite awhile and I DEFINITELY noticed that the 610C was more responsive than the 710C. Benchmark 2.0 showed a stock 710C running at 212 and the 610C running at 214. I beamed Benchmark on a 505 and it said that it was slower than a Visor Platinum (don't remember the number). I'm not sure that it's actually faster, it's the same processor but I think what I was seeing was that OS 4.0 is more responsive. Try clicking the application buttons on a 710 and 610 side by side. You'll also see the same thing on the m50x series.

RE: Faster than 710C?
frox @ 9/20/2001 8:42:00 AM #
OS4 is faster than OS3.5x

not available

rigter @ 9/20/2001 7:38:18 AM #
The only Sony machine available over here in the Netherlands is the PEG S300. Perhaps some of you remember that thing from long ago.

The only high end pda's available here are the m-series from Palm. I cannot find a HandEra. Handspring has just released two models, one of which is identical to an existing one.

This new Sony would easily sweep away all the competition over here because there isn't any. The only alternative is an iPaq. A lot of them around here.
Maybe I should get one too.

Sony, are you guys reading this?

RE: not available
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/20/2001 9:06:17 AM #
Same here in Germany, I start feeling like a second class world citizen. However, Sony has at least announced the N760 for Germany. Since this specific model might apear in the U.S. in October, chances are good for a similar release date in Germany. While I don't know about the Netherlands, I tend to assume that Sony will handle the whole EU common market as a single market, with identical release date. Lets hope for the best :-)

Thyl Engelhardt

incorrect on one point i noticed.

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/20/2001 10:38:01 AM #
the review stated only high end clie's had included memory sticks.


clie s300 has an 8mb stick. the lowest of the low clie's. (and the ONLY clie model available in england/uk... and i assume rest of europe...)

Hi-rez black and white

I.M. Anonymous @ 9/30/2001 6:19:17 PM #
I love the high resolution screen on the N610C, but I don't need color. Using my old Handspring was tourture to my eyes. If they only had a high rez M500 or S320...

RE: Hi-rez black and white
I.M. Anonymous @ 9/30/2001 7:30:37 PM #
the handera does it

Multiple Palm OS on one PC???

I.M. Anonymous @ 10/12/2001 11:52:16 AM #
I would like to buy a N610 but it must run on the same PC as my wife's IIIc. The review of the Clie N710C in Pen Computing stated that it can't coexist on the same PC with any other Palm OS device. Does the PEG-610C have the same limitations? If it does what is next best choice? Right now we are running a IIIx and IIIc
together. Thanks for any help or ideas.

RE: Multiple Palm OS on one PC???
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/25/2001 1:18:45 AM #
I don´t have the response but, take a look at the Clié Users group of Yahoo. they can be helpful.


Hard Case?

I.M. Anonymous @ 10/15/2001 1:17:07 AM #
Great review. I just got my N610C and am enjoying it very much -especially the high-resolution screen. I agree that the flip cover is not attatched securely. You mentioned that a hard case would be better. Is there one that fits the N610C?

RE: Hard Case?
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/29/2001 4:00:26 PM #

Wireless? Camera?

mike_ch @ 3/4/2002 5:42:57 PM #
I was a 3 year Palm III user, and I'm really impressed with the speed and clarity of this 610C Clie. I am contemplating going wireless with this device, and I am wondering if there are any MyLo users out there who can give me their impression of the performance.

Is anyone aware of any other options for the PEG-N610C other than MyLo for going wireless.

Any power users out there who have tried the camera? How does it perform?

RE: Wireless? Camera?
Ed @ 3/4/2002 6:00:08 PM #
Sorry Mike, bad news. The MYLO service is only for the S series; There is no modem for the N or T series. Your only wireless option is to IR to a mobile phone.

I'm in the process of writing a review of the Sony Memory Stick camera. So far I think it is pretty cool.

News Editor

lost cd

rechiflados @ 6/17/2003 3:43:51 AM #
i lost my cd and i want to know where can i obtain the software i want to install on my pc (was upgrated)

I lost my cd and I need install in my computer please I need the software can you help me??


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