Comments on: Palm OS 4.1 Bug Fixes List

When Sony released the N760C, it ran Palm OS 4.1, the first model to do so. Many people wondered what were the differences between OS 4.0 and 4.1. A Sony spokesperson said the only changes were to fix some bugs and there were no new features. Recently, a list of bug fixes was posted on the Palm Developer's Forum. For the most part, these are quite technical and none of the bugs fixed appear to be major problems with the OS.
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He he.

Davy @ 10/19/2001 1:13:35 PM #
The stdFont for Japanese had incorrect glyphs for the Box drawing characters (and the kg and mg glyphs).

Ah yes. I was always concerned about that when using my m505. Glad to see that problem was resolved. Lol.

RE: He he.
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/19/2001 1:27:39 PM #
Gees - if the bugs don't affect you personally Davy, why do Palm bother fixing them at all?

RE: He he.
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/19/2001 1:51:45 PM #
Uhh... I think Davy was making a joke. 4.1 has lots of very minor bug fixes. That's the point.

RE: He he.
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/19/2001 1:52:20 PM #
Thank God Davy isn't affected by the bugs! Sure, screw all the thousands of Japanese Palm users, now that I know Davy is ok, I can sleep in peace!!

RE: He he.
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/19/2001 2:02:31 PM #
See, there is this thing some of us use sometimes... it's called humor. Davy's comment wasn't offensive, I have a feeling he understands that these things are important to some people. Just because you don't get a joke, it doesn't make it wrong.


P.S. Long live Political Correctness!

(For those who made the previous comments, this is an example of the afforementioned "humor" and its close cousin "sarcasm.")

RE: He he.
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/19/2001 2:14:00 PM #
I agree with Jon.
For your information, "lol" stands for "laugh out loud."

A joke. That's all. Chill out.

If you don't like personality, don't use yours, but allow other people to.

RE: He he.
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/12/2002 12:34:59 AM #
Great, thanks for the update. Now if someone would just fix the stupid Birthay Minder on the Palm Desktop 4.0 for Mac. Every single contact's birthday is on my To Do list for the entire freakin' year! Before, the Minder would just create a To Do item five days prior to the birthday. Imagine finding the important To Do items for today among about 150 birthday reminders!!! Customer Service at Palm isn't even answering my emails anymore!!!!!!

Is there an update fpr the M505?

I.M. Anonymous @ 10/19/2001 2:24:40 PM #
Am I missing something or is there no update for the M505? So Palm updates their OS for their vendors but no update for their own customers? If so that doesn't seem right. Am I missing something?

RE: Is there an update fpr the M505?
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/19/2001 5:18:56 PM #
What do you expect, Palm is allways late at getting out things. Look, after, what, 2-3 years, they finally put expansion capabilities. The Clie and TRG Pro have had it for years.

RE: Is there an update fpr the M505?
I.M. Anonymous @ 7/11/2002 7:52:23 PM #
So does this mean that we will FINALLY see OS 4.1 for the Handera 330? I mean come n it has benn over a year now since OS 4.0 came out and I am still plowing allong with a hobbled 3.5.3

OS4.1 has a Graffiti bug in it

I.M. Anonymous @ 10/19/2001 2:41:25 PM #
It does not recognize the "a" and "1" symbols when you hit them. I wonder why they fixed all this minor stuff in OS4.0 and added a noticeable one.

RE: OS4.1 has a Graffiti bug in it
SilliconMan @ 10/19/2001 3:22:28 PM #
Isn't that your messup? Graffiti is fuzzy logic...Ie it recognizes different drawings as the same letter....

I have NO trouble getting an A and a 1 on my Clie.

Palming away.....

RE: OS4.1 has a Graffiti bug in it
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/19/2001 3:22:34 PM #
just tap a little below the symbols and it should work

RE: OS4.1 has a Graffiti bug in it
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/19/2001 3:24:10 PM #
It also has some kind of USB problem that keeps it from playing nice with Macs.

SilliconMan: pls READ the message, it's not the recognition
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/19/2001 4:16:50 PM #
problem, it the silkscreen symbols... "when you hit them" not try to input the text.

RE: OS4.1 has a Graffiti bug in it
tychay @ 10/19/2001 4:39:44 PM #
The m505 plays nice with MacOS 9, but not OS X. I suspect that it's a Palm m50x USB cradle issue, not a Palm OS 4.x issue. This is because 1) The synch routine isn't carbonized and works only through the classic compatibility layer; and 2) Sync Buddy (formerly Palm Buddy) has trouble recognizing the Palm USB connection layer sometimes, it has no problem with any other one (Handspring USB, serial, IR, etc).

It is a pity because in a week, the Palm m505 will be the only reason for me ever to boot into MacOS 9.

terry chay Righteous Travel Deals in Record Time

san jose, ca, usa

RE: OS4.1 has a Graffiti bug in it
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/20/2001 12:43:59 AM #
While you're waiting for palm to de-wedge itself on the OS-X issue, you could check to see if Pilot-link, the basic CLI utility for Palms under UNIX compiles for you: Nothing incredible, but it lets you back up/install stuff to your pilot. From there, you can see if one of the GUI front ends will install - I personally like J-Pilot

Good luck.

RE: OS4.1 has a Graffiti bug in it
I.M. Anonymous @ 10/20/2001 10:29:16 AM #
I don't have any problems syncing my m505 with my G4 running Mac OS 10.1. The HotSync Manager launches Classic and performs faster than when I boot up in 9.2.1, everything is synced to Entourage and AvantGo. SyncBuddy works great too (assuming you do things in the right order). Granted, it will be great to have at least a Carbon HotSync Manager.
So it is possible to stay with Mac OS 10.1 and I hope you figure out how to get working on your system.


RE: OS4.1 has a Graffiti bug in it
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/3/2001 11:44:51 AM #
I think the OSX sync problem and M505 is fixed in 10.0.1 My 505 syncs fine, every time, with the update.

Version Numbering

ktran @ 10/19/2001 6:33:09 PM #
Isn't it commonly accepted software engineering practice to reserve an incremental decimal number like this for new features? So this release should be something like 4.01 or something like that. Might just be a minor quibble, though.

K. Tran

RE: Version Numbering
Ia3n @ 10/19/2001 8:01:39 PM #
Yeah, it should be 4.01. Then again, I think 4.0 should be called 3.6, so really ir should be 3.6.1

RE: Version Numbering
SilliconMan @ 10/19/2001 9:42:02 PM #
This is PalmOS were talking should be PalmOS 5!

Palming away.....

Only minor bug-fixes?

Christian @ 10/21/2001 4:11:26 PM #
So, Dear Ed, how come, that you think all of these are minor bug-fixes?

"VFSFileRead did not return vfsErrFileEOF when reading past the end of a file."

Did you ever try to write a correct-working programm on an operating-system which is not delivering you eof-information while processing a file?

There are so many problems (even msmount, mcfile and power-run) with files on the expansion-memory (sd-card) that the only solution to repair them (which I found) was to buy a desktoppc-sd/mmc-cardreader-writer.

Greetings from Switzerland
Christian Stocker

Does it fix the USB sync problem?

I.M. Anonymous @ 7/11/2002 8:11:31 PM #
Does it fix the USB sync problem? Supposedly that was a problem with a driver in the Palm itself. Any body know?


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