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Is there someone willing to pay more?
Wouldn't it BE funny if MSFT stepped in
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Microsoft and Taxes
Bill Gates is my HERO
Of course MSFT pays taxes!
RE: Bill Gates is my HERO
and to the monopoly which he owns.
One company, bound by no laws, run by megalomaniacs
with high prices and no options for all.
RE: Does it matter?
What sort of talk is it to say that freedom is best served by putting anyone above the law? The President is not above the law, so why should Mr Gates enjoy that privileged?
Or look at it another way: MSFT made it's fortune, in part, through exploiting its intellectual property rights, basically rights under copyright laws. Is it truly the case that MSFT wants to take the benefit of the law in some situations but not to comply with other laws when this it suits them. That's ridiculous. If they don't want to abide by the anti-trust laws, fine, then they can move to a country which doesn't have them - chances are that they won't have any copyright law neither.
Palm should cut a deal with PC makers
RE: Palm should cut a deal with PC makers
Palm has lost the desktop to Outlook. I am very suprised that Palm is still paying Chapura to bundle Pocket mirror with the Palm install software. One would think Palm could have come up with their own Outlook conduits by now....
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Microsoft = heavy handed with PC maker agreements -> remember IExplorer vs. Netscape?
How quickly some forget...
PC makers will give customers what they want.
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Woe to Palm
MicroTroll
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You're right. Palm is banking on BE for OS5.
No Woe
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BTW, I know it's just changing the background color to orange, but I dig the new look Ed.
It was a joke.
Orange
Happy Halloween! It was Ryan's idea. He'll change it back after the holiday.
Before someone asks, you can register and set the site colors to something else. Orange is just the default.
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RE: Woe to Palm
The existing Palm OS (what is the plural?) are pretty basic but they get the job done. No fuss, no bother, they just work. As advertised. You don't even need to read the manual to get a Palm to work, just switch on and off you go - for the non-expert user (ie, at a guess, 95% of all customers) that is in fact a valid consideration - life is too short for 2 inch thick manuals. Sure, the Palm won't multi-task, but you can switch between apps so quickly that you can hardly tell the difference. Do do want a sophisticated file manager? Well, you can buy a program to do just that without changing the OS. I can go on.
The thing is that the simple OS may not be much fun for a technophile but it is robust, it is flexible and it runs very fast. (206Mhz on an iPAQ looks nice on paper but, with PocketPC, it runs slower than Palm OS3.5.3 on my old Vx!)
Palm's management may be putting far too much emphasis on the "Zen of Palm" stuff in order to justify their indolence. Nevertheless there is a lot to be said for the KISS formula. That was probably the main reason why Palm succeeded in the first place, against competition like the Newton and, later, WinCE Mark I & II (Mk III is on the ropes too).
This is not to say that Palm should continue to sit on its hands. However, in developing OS5, they should remember their (and Saint Jeff's) heritage, so as to retain the best features of the existing OS.
Progress comes best from sensible evolution, from improving what already works well, from building on success.
Palm Increases Share of Handheld Computer Sales
But what do we shareholders 'have' right now?
I should have sold my BE shares while i could.
Palm Increases Share of Handheld Computer Sales in Europe
By Dex McLuskey
Santa Clara, California, Oct. 25 (Bloomberg) -- Palm Inc. increased its lead in the European market for handheld computers in the third quarter as the market fell more than one-third amid slowing economic growth, Gartner Inc.'s Dataquest unit said.
Palm improved its market share by 5.6 percent over the previous three months, while second-placed Compaq Computer Corp.'s sales slid more than 13 percent, Dataquest said in an e-mailed statement. Compaq's shipments were less than half those in the previous quarter. Overall, shipments dropped 34.5 percent, compared with the same period last year.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=marketsquote99_news.ht&s=AO9g8NhSVUGFsbSBJ
RE: Palm Increases Share of Handheld Computer Sales
Confidence shaking
As of right now Palm's only advantage is low price, wide adoption, Sony's name and large personal related software titles.
RE: Confidence shaking
Gee, is that all? <smirk> Actually, I'll admit you have a point. Even Microsoft has to break the mold now and them to maintain their market share. Windows XP is their response to Linux and Mac OSX. Palm needs to respond to the new PocketPCs in the future. I love my Visor now, but I'll be looking for something new in about two years. Product loyalty ca be only so strong.
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James Sorenson
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on enterprise level, it is integrated wireless data terminal.
those two demand more advance OS than 4.1 currently can offer. If Palm stick with 4.1 business model, Palm hardware will soon plunge to sub $50 dolar niche. Observer the m1xx class.
You Lost Me
This says Palm is going to add new multimedia and Internet features into the OS. That's what the move to ARM processors is all about. No-one suggested sticking with OS 4.1 forever.
Notice the way Be's engineers will be joining Palm's engineers. Not replacing them. Not doing al the work without them. Working with them.
RE: Confidence shaking
They failed twice before. On their third attempt, Compaq defied MSFT's standards to produce the iPAQ, and what Compaq did was to copy the Palm formula (small form factor, keeping the unit as basic as possible, etc) as much as possible within the straight jacket that MSFT had imposed. Don't believe me? Take a look at all the other manufacturers who followed MSFT's dictates more closely. They produced some very expensive (and unsuccessful) paperweights.
RE: Confidence shaking
RE: Confidence shaking
Why don't they ...
If you look at all those posts on these SaveBeOS boards, it seems that most people are only concerned about the OS disappearing not so much about their shares ...!!!
A 2nd freely developed and distributed OS besides Linux wouldn't be bad either, especially with Bes' qualities!
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They got greedy and try to control everything and get crush by Microsoft and Linux without mercy. No sane person wants to help them write driver or apps. what for? they have no future in desktop (and rightly so)
They could have made more money combining various licensing sale, specialized hardware, and consulting.
Their OS is made for easy to use low budget parallel computing. stuff for genetic sequencing or studio movie editing. But they rather choose the "world domination (tm)" path, before switching to "media OS (tm)" crap. and end up in dot.bomb junk bin.
too bad.
A different perspective
Usually, with this type of deal, no announcement is made unless the Boards of both companies have approved in principle. Often the directors will canvas the larger shareholders before reaching a decision. Typically, the Board supports the proposal at the requisite shareholders meeting. If these things are managed properly, shareholder approval becomes a mere formality.
I have no details about this particular deal other than what I read on this excellent website. The above is just what usually happens in the real world.
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