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RE: Handspring is dead.
RE: Handspring is dead.
> doesn't extend far enough for you to be able to
> grasp the point.
Yes, your point of paying $70 for a memory stick adapter is senseless.
I bet you think the vibrator attachment for the Visor makes sense, too.
RE: Handspring is dead.
New Life for Handspring
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James Sorenson
RE: Handspring is dead.
Based on the current back order for the VisorPhone, I think a lot of people agree with you.
One question - Do you mean the E&B case? Do you have a link to the case that you mean?
Thanks, --Charlie
RE: Handspring is dead.
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This isn't true. I'm not the original poster and I think he's a few beers short of six pack. I just wanted to make the point that if you post anonymously, anyone can come along later, say they are you, and put any kind of words they want on your mouth.
RE: Handspring is dead.
RE: Handspring is dead.
You guys need therapy ASAP. Me... I'll grab some beer and some weed.
Later...
RE: Handspring is dead.
RE: Handspring is dead.
RE: Handspring is dead.
Eric Garrido
RE: Handspring is dead.
It is not a cheap case ($50), but it's leather, has a swivel belt-clip, and a pocket for another module or your earphone. It uses a velcro flip-top, and is formed so that all buttons (including those on the Visorphone) are accessible. Basically, I wanted a case where I didn't have to pull it out to use it.
Cheers.
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James Sorenson
RE: Handspring is dead.
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Moderator Needed!
The fact that these boards are not moderated, is beyond irritating to me... How hard would it be to do? You have a great site here, don't you want it to be the best?
It seems like you can't get through one discussion without some jackass crying that his/her model is the best. Let's stick to the topic people.
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Look, some idiot's always going to make comments like this, and in a way it is relevent. Is it any worse than fanboys who shout "Woo Hoo! Now Handspring is the most expandable PDA around!"?
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RE: Moderator Needed!
Yes, it is worse and here's why: At least fanboy would be telling us what he thinks is so great about Handspring - it's expandable. The original "Handspring is dead" poster's viewpoint might be valid, and even important to convey to readers considering the purchase of this product. Unfortunately, the poster did not offer any support for his statement, making his post worthless.
Even worse, the tone of his post was clearly inflammatory, which was probably his sole purpose of posting to begin with. That is why he deserves to be moderated.
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Handspring, right now, allows you to expand your PDA beyond that of memory. I have a eyemodule2 that I can't live without. I take maybe 15 pictures a day with it.
I have no problem with the m505 or the Clie or the Handera. But until the Palm ARM PDA's come out, I would upgrade, except maybe to the Prism.
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57 Springboards and nothing on...
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Let's see here:
http://www.handera.com/accessories/compat.asp
5 landline modems, a wireless modem, two digital phone cards, two serial port cards, 5 ethernet cards, two GPS cards, and a barcode scanner card. Oh, and the 802.11b wireless card that HandEra is writing drivers for. No CF perhipherals? Hardly.
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I don't need an MP3 Player 'cause it's built into the OS. I guess that HandSpring wins the expandability contest on that point since there is no option to spend more than a hundred dollars for a feature that I already have.
No CF phone, but there won't be one for long for HandSpring users either since it is out of production and HS is just selling backstock until they run out.
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So needless to say, the springboard slot is not dead.
Jason
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You are the very first person I've ever heard of who likes that camera for the Jornada. Everyone else I've ever talked to about it thought it was horrible.
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The Hp camera does take decent pictures and the software is excellent.
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Which Media?
I could see how if you already owned another device that used one kind of media, you might want to be able to use the same kind on your pda. Other than that, are there any advantages of one media over the other?
Thanks,
--Charlie
RE: Which Media?
Speaking generally in terms of media, cf in particular is a better deal than memory sticks in terms of cost per megabyte. For example, a 128mb CF card is $60 at Costco, but a similar sized memory stick is hovering at $120 or so the last time I checked. In addition, there are far more accessories available in terms of usb>cf/smartmedia and PC Card > cf readers than there are for the memory stick format. This might start to change now that lexar and other 3rd party companies are staring to make memory stick format media on their own.
RE: Which Media?
1: Do you already have a certain type of media? You might as well standardize a little so that you only need one USB-reader for your computer.
2: Do you have friends or family with a PDA that uses a type of memory expansion? I find that sharing data by swapping cards can save A LOT of hassle when moving documents around. However, they have to be the same type of media.
3. If you currently have no media, have no friends with media, and don't intend to purchase any item in the near future that uses a certain type of media, THEN you might as well shop for price. Compact Flash is certainly the winner, here.
Smart Media seems to be gaining popularity with the smaller devices due to its small-size. Personally, I find it to be slow, over-priced, and sometimes unreliable. The contacts are exposed, so use a case. Size sells in the digital-age, I guess.
Compact Flash is my favorite. It's robust, cheap, and fast. However, it is larger than Smart-Media, and CF devices tend to cost a slight bit more. However, having a cheap, durable 256MB chip makes it worth it. Compact Flash is a requirement for me when I buy a device.
Sony Memory Stick. This one is a severe Love/Hate relationship. It's small and expensive, like Smart-Media. However, it has the ability to be a device as well as memory, like Compact Flash. From what I've seen, the Memory Stick is a bit more durable than Smart Media, but not as sturdy as Compact Flash. The major selling point is that it uses a secure-protocol when working with MP3s. This is a nod to the music industry, so future MP3-players may start using these. It is the most costly, though he price seems to be dropping rapidly.
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James Sorenson
RE: Which Media?
RE: Which Media?
http://www.us.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10297925
128 mb Memory Stick for $97.95
http://www.outpost.com/entry?site=cn:a101&sku=97218
Just a quick search on shopper.com reveals several places to get 128 mb MS for under $100.
RE: Which Media?
MS has a "lock" to prevent writing, it's very good.
However, I would choose CF for my visor.
But I'll buy a MemPlug MemoryStick
because I can read data from my friend's MS if needed.
RE: Which Media?
RE: Which Media?
RE: Which Media?
Actually, it's the second fastest of the bunch (marginally): (source PC Mag Nov13, 01)
CF 2.5 Mbps
MS 5 Mbps
MMC/SD 2 Mbps
PC card 2.5 Mbps
Springboard 6.4 Mbps
ALSO
to clear up some confusion MS is not SDMI compliant i.e. no copy protection; MS Gate (white stick) is
RE: Which Media?
If neither of those is a concern, heck, go low bid!
Good luck!
RE: Which Media?
People who have CF cameras use CF, people who are sony mindless drones user memorystick, I use SM cause I have a digicam that uses it. All about preference.
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RE: Which Media?
But where Handspring excells in expandability, it currently lags behind in displays and built in features. They have yet to release a device with anything other than a 160x160 display. I actually don't mind this, but alot of people do. I beleive that's an enhancement that they've overlooked or forgotten. Maybe the drop in the price of the Prizm is signalling a new hi-res color device comming out in the near future. That would be great.
This post is not meant to stir up comments bashing anyone or any device. I just admire the different memory options that are available for Handspring Visors. Lets stay posetive.
RE: Which Media?
I would only say YES to both if the Visors are equipped w/ dual springboard slots - once you got your expansion card module plugged into the slot, your Visor is no longer expandable, and that basically make your Visor no different from the m505 or the 760.
Sony and Palm should have also provided their Palms with dual Sd/MS slot. Yes of coz you could swap your Springboard/SD/MS device, but it's kinda stupid that i got to remove my memory stick and take photos w/ the MS eye module on that tiny daxn piece of 8mb Ram. And if i plug in the wireless bluetooth module, I can't go online if i got my browser stored in my SD/MS, which is the most likely case as those browsers are always RAM eaters.
RE: Which Media?
MS 5 Mbps"
I don't believe!!
I have both CF and MS, I have their card reader too.
When I backup data to the CF or MS, I found the CF always faster.
I know some good CF cards are very fast, several times faster than bad ones.
RE: Which Media?
RE: Which Media?
Comes with PiDirect? Are you sure?
Scott
RE: Comes with PiDirect? Are you sure?
in the directory. You have to purchase a separate
license, to get unlimited access.
Springboards didn't work out too well...
Now, that said, Handspring is finished. Their stock is going to $0. Just wait. The Treo line just prolongs the inevitable. The gambled on PalmOS and lost.
RE: Springboards didn't work out too well...
As for this whole "Handspring is Dead" because they gambled on the PalmOS and what not: come back when you can support that statement. Handspring is fine. Why? PalmOS is still the majority PDA, and two new comapnies just licensed the OS. The Treos are hitting news stands before they are even released. There are 57 springboard modules for the current Visors, which is more than I'll ever need. As proven by this article, more modules are being made.
That, my friend, is how you make a statement in this group.
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James Sorenson
RE: Springboards hwve worked out well
Are Handsprings any good?.
Tuckermaclain@yahoo.com (love my 505)
Springboards rock
You like CF? There's a CF Springboard.
You like SD/MMC? There's a Memplug Springboard.
You like Memstick? Now, there's a memstick springboard.
Right there, it supports all of the major memory modules. Not to mention the ability to add 56K modems, MP3 players, etc. And every Springboard module I've used is rock solid stable. Sure, there are probably flaky modules out there but they are far and few between. Most come with the neccessary software built into the module itself, so you do not need to waste internal RAM with drivers, software etc.
My only real complaint about the Springboards are their price. Most are really way overpriced in my opinion. But still, the Springboards made my decision to jump to the Clie line very very difficult and if Handspring ever released a Visor that matched my needs like the Clie does then I'd probably jump back to their camp :)
RE: Springboards didn't work out too well...
>You like CF? There's a CF Springboard.
>You like SD/MMC? There's a Memplug Springboard.
Seems to me that a HandEra 330 which can use both at the same time gets extra points for expandability. I have hundreds of databases and apps on an external card (192MB), and it wouldn't be very useful to have to unplug all that to use a modem, ethernet, or 802.11b connection.
Then there's the issue that, unlike springboards, you can use those CF devices (and soon, non-memory SD devices when they arrive), on your laptop or desktop saving you duplication of devices. The sole problem with springboards is that they're proprietary, and that's hard to stay in business with. CF device manufacturers generally don't make their cards for just one target market. I can use any NE2000 ethernet card on the market (dozens) for example in my TrgPro, Handera 330, my laptop, my desktop, or a PocketPC if I had one. A consumer shouldn't have to buy all his devices twice.
>Most come with the neccessary software built into the module itself, so you do not need to waste internal RAM with drivers, software etc.
Again, that's only needed if you can't have your cake and eat it too. So you're stuck with the software that the manufacture gives you on the card. In the case of a Handera 330 owner, they can use other software which they believe is better suited, and put it on one card, while they use the device in the other slot. Maybe it's an alternative database they're using with a bar code wand or laser scanner, or some other combo with a GPS, ethernet card, CDPD modem, etc. Or even many different apps that make use of the card. If they're all VFS apps, both the cards and the data can be on the memory card and take up no RAM, while I use the accessory in the other slot.
As for the thread on card speeds, max rated speed on cards in nearly irrelevant on PalmOS hardware. The constriction is the Palm hardware which levels the playing field. The maximum speed for any card is going to be the same. The only differences comes in the memory handling routines of the card controllers, and more significantly, the number of address lines the card has. CF has double or quadruple the number of address lines of the other card formats (springboard excepted), which is why it can still outrun them in large transfers. It's a parallel transfer rather than a serial one.
RE: Springboards didn't work out too well...
RE: Springboards didn't work out too well...
RE: Springboards didn't work out too well...
RE: Springboards didn't work out too well...
I beg to differ...
These are just a sampling of some of the "niches" that are filled by the Handspring series. There is no other single handheld that can be modified and upgraded the same way that the Handspring can.
The new memory plug will fill another niche. Existing Sony product owners will not be forced to buy a clie for compatibility with their Memory stick devices. (Don't get me wrong, the Clie is a great device).
Bash away, Handspring haters. There are those of us out here who see the benefits of true expandability.
Doug
How could Springboad design be profitable?
RE: Springboards didn't work out too well...
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