Comments on: Sony Announces PEG-T600C

Very very cool. I'm not a big fan of adding a bulky sleeve to my device, but since this device is small to begin with, the sleeve might just expand it to be a regular PDA's width.

CF would be great. It's the cheapest memory i've found out there.

not very likely, still.

:)

Palm......it's really time for you to do something.....other than the patriot blue......LoL

... Sorry, but I just cannot stop joking at Palm's creativity and innovation!!!

But Palm is still behind the PalmOS, and they are
doing a good job supporting developers (quality
OS and programs make a good pda). Sony, on the
other hand, is well known for their not-so-good
support, if they also take over the OS it will be
a disaster! Yet, they love to create their own
standards for everything, from Betamax video to
MemoryStick, which I personally don't like.

Anyway, I'm far from Asia and the new T600, but
I'm happy with my T415: nice pda, great OS!

edabe

Granted, it'll eventually launch in the US, but when?

Once it launches in the US, what if you get a bad unit? Sony is notorious for poor tech support.

Plus, with all this innovation, why on earth is Sony focusing on making the thing a glorified remote control? I've got much better ideas for what my PDA can do - I wish Sony would focus more on that.

Hats off to Sony for their innovation, but let's keep some perspective here...

If we're still on small square screens (REGARDLESS of resolution) next year, then i'd be very very disappointed.

Bigger screens are needed.

Good for the Japanese, but if it's not available in the U.S., then it's still a rumor out here.

"As for CF card type communication card corresponding communication adapter " PEGA-SA10 ", " C@rd H of the DDI pocket " 64 petit " " Air H " petit ", " P-in Comp@ct " " P-in M@ster " of the NTT ƒhƒRƒ‚, the communication adapter which corresponds to the analog modem card. Because the charge pond is built in, without using the battery of the CLIE besides the fact that it can do communication, at the time of CLIE installing being to be able to do power source supply in the CLIE, as an external battery of the CLIE it can utilize. In addition, also it is possible when the DC IN jack has been equipped, it is possible, installs the adapter to charge the CLIE itself and the communication adapter by the fact that the AC adapter you connect to put in the cradle.

It can also verify communication state in the LED indication to which the battery remaining amount and the utility which can verify card information belong on the picture of the device, are prepared in the adapter. With the LED verification as for being possible " while communicating " " during power source supplying to the CLIE itself " " the battery remaining amount of the communication adapter (3 gradual indication) " " the battery DOWN of the communication adapter (blinking indication) " 5 types " in the midst of charging to communication adapter ".

When the communication ON/OFF switch is prepared in the adapter, " at the time of C@rd H " 64 petit " " Air H " petit " utilization turns to ON it expects and becomes state. The user of both cards " has acquired " the mail address of H link ", " with setting of H " LINK center mail notification has become ON ", " if the condition for acquiring the ID/ password in order to utilize the E mail service of H " LINK center via the PRIN " from the setting of H LINK center ", has been satisfied, at the time of mail arrival the notification by the vibrator, the LED and alarm sound with the cooperation with the CLIE mail, is possible.

As for power source as for lithium ion charge pond built-in and size 70.7�~127.6�~19.9 millimeter and 90 grams of weight. The porch, installation CD-ROM belongs to the product. As for price open price (approximately market expectation price 1 ten thousand 5000 Yen)"

..and it comes with bunch of software, tho some of them are for japanese users in mind.

not forgetting to mention, it has a sound chip in it -FM16poly - finally, it's POLYPHONIC! the review also says the built-in speaker is good. you can costomize all the alarm sound, hotsync sound, and etc with the software comes along with it.

this thing will be hardly beatin for somewhile and it will rule i guess.. but i've read sony's CEO's interview and he is tired of weak power of the current Palm. when OS5 with StrongARM, they'll finally be freed from the limitaion and make a PPC beater, i think.

this is an impressing unit, tho i'll be using my m505 for maybe quite a while... i hope Palm m60x will have virtual graffity!! put an effort, Palm!

crs launcher :) its so cool to have 30 icons on the screen at any one point in time :) beats the standard 12 :P

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aaron@ardiri.com
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it doesn't say about MS but it maybe supports, i hope.

Even has basically every good color or high res Clie program around. This group rocks!

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I meant comparing the color T600 with the m505. They compared the T600 with the N7xx. (If they were intent on comparing Sony to Sony, they should have then compared the T400 to the S320!)

We had to wait four months to be "offered" the 770C. But they are still selling here the PEG S300. Their first handeld wich have been discontinued since months in Japan and U.S! In the same logic, Sony Europe don't think we could be interested in any other model. So, no 610, no T415, nothing.

And what about extensions? Where is the Bluetooth module? What about 802.11 extension? Where is the modem? Where are the cases, the keyboards? Where is wireless? No to talk about scandalous high prices on Memory sticks. Nothing of this is available in Europe (but sure... in Japan). If it will ever be. Sony "don't communicate".

Sony should, in place of launching a new model every month, assume a minimal support (upgrades, accessories), on released models.

Think about it, before buying. You will be happy, like I was, with their nice "toys". But when will the time begin to extend the toy, you will discover that Sony don't care about it. "Oh! You really bought that model? Did you?".

You're prisonner. It's Sony, proprietary system. If Sony decide, you will be allowed to buy. If they decide not to, you just get the right to shut your mouth up.

Ask them. Where are extensions?

are those palm supporters so ran out of idea that theyt need to attack clie's buttons ??

how about say sony don't have the American Cranberry ??

just admit it, palm's handheld design is so 19th century comparing to clie. they got inferior screen, inferior hardware features, and inferior software. Look at those bundles Clie only software, they did more innovation than palm and handspring combined in the last 2 years.

you don't like clie buttons, you're automatically a palm supporter?

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P28552C2

http://makeashorterlink.com/?T59512C2

There's no way palm can catch up on them, coz palm's not a consumer electronics company after all, they don't have the resource to do so many designs. (actually I don't think any company can really catch up with sony on design not even apple)

the big problem with video on the palm rightnow is there is no standard. every movie playing app for palm uses it's own compression.

I had tried to gather some feedback on video encoding tests i had done a few months ago, but no one really responded.

basically, you can keep small clips of stuff, in pixelated form. since EVERY movie app for palm OS sucks.

They need an mpeg4 standard in there. like pocket divx or wmv. anything would be better than the crap that's out there now.

had 3 mmeg wmv movie with audio, at 160x120 that looked fine on the desktop (albeit small as all heck), and using all the movie apps out there the file size grew (or the app limited the file size. how stupid is that!).

Some apps even force you to use at highest 15fps.

it's a joke.

i'll definitely have to grab tha program and do some new tests. I'll put up a new topic in the forums in a week or so with the results.

thanks for the info. (and the tip about not resizing before conversion).

Now, obviously, this device will take a nice chunk out of Palm's m505 sales. But, I'd imagine, this will be mainly with us geeks. If I was in charge of purchasing several devices for a team within my company, I'd probably choose a device from Palm or Handspring (or Handera) due to the improved support that I would get. Palm would also get the edge in that they own the OS.

Scott

What will you Palm fans say about this??

Palm and Sony BOTH must go after the AVERAGE USER, not just those of us who read PIC. That average user doesn't care much about 320x320 vs 160x160. They care that the interface is easy, which it is on BOTH the m505 and the Clie. They DON'T own a micrometer and DON'T care about .005". They just want "thin," which Palm/Sony have FAR superior to the iPaq.

But what you want, but realize that an m505 will beam very easily to a Clie, and vice versa. GET OVER YOUR TECH SPECS!!!

you can try this, if you are in Hong Kong it's $370 US
if outside of Hong Kong it's $408 US

I am not sure if you wanna do that coz that thing is runnign japanese OS, unless you are japanese, chinese or you know japanese, it's highly recommended you should wait for the english version.

and this :
www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/palm/0111/19/f_hamacli2_2.html

It seems the author initially worried about the spec but was later quite satisfied by the actual unit.

He seems to rate the screen 85 (out of 100?). We need someone who really understand Japanese to clear this out.

Any way, try this link http://www.clie.info/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7812

most PPC has enhanced great speakers long time ago. well you can say that PPC is much large. But what sony do is just to make the speaker a little small. You are right, I never try T415 before, but I still would think that speaker size is relative to quality. If you have a thin speaker, it'll be worse that a bigger one. I don't think there's a technology breakthrough on that.
RMC can be easily done by changing the infrared's LED. no one does it before because they think it's a waste of battery.

So still, the main change is the LCD.

Please correct me if I am wrong