Comments on: Palm Lays Out 2002 Hardware Timetable
First off, he said that Palm's much delayed wireless handheld will be out within two months. It had originally planned to release a VIIx replacement before the end of 2001 but had to push it back until this year.
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Benhamou's Promises and Hype
1. Faster Processor? 48Mhz would keep the promise but underwhelm everyone. It ain't going to cut it.
2. Wireless Standards? SD Bluetooth Card? How long have we been waiting for this? Old news.
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1.) It obviously won't be 48 Mhz. It'll likely be 200-400 this 1st go around.
2.) He also mentioned built in 802.11 which is the 1st anybody has heard of this. This is actually good news if done correctly.
Glass half empty, huh?
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Whos in charge?
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Although I do think that the 240x320 is a better standard (or a size that uses the full screen). Wasting space with a fixed graffiti area simply doesn't make sense.
DRG
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Wrong. Every Palm OS update since 3.0 through 4.1 added significant improvements to the underlying APIs and performance improvments. The latest API improvements are likely a key to a smooth transition to OS 5.0 and compatability with legacy apps. Even though the user-visible feature changes from 3.5 to 4.x may seem minor, the underlying OS additions, changes and improvements are huge.
If Palm is seriously going to compete with Pocket PC, they need to have a real OS underneath there to compete with and those improvements are more critical than your eyecandy.
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Later,
Phil
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1) The OS API is tied closely to one language.
2) With C++, you can't change base classes without destroying binary compatibility with older software.
A C API is very portable to bindings for other languages, like C++, Pascal, Perl, Python, Java, etc. You can build a class library on top of the core API. If they were going to do an OOP API, I'd suggest something like COM which at least provides a reasonable cross-language object binding method.
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In a nutshell the point i was trying to make was:
1) The Palm OS API is imho in need of an overhall.
2) The current implementation is way to platform specific and does not comply with the base ansi standards.
3) Having the Be programmers on board are going to make OS 5 shine like a silver dollar in sunlight.
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I dont know about you guys, but I met the Palm guys and have seen what they have bashed together and I'm impressed with how smart these guys are. Feel secure in the fact that the guys creating the OS are smart. I believe they made some good busness decisions with upcoming releases and I also think people that frequent this site will also bitch about it when they see OS5.0. But then again they bitch about everything.
-W
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Ben (CW tech lead)
That's geat and all but.....
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Lets see if Sony beats Palm acording to this time table....
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>and a superb form factor which will bring the Palm designers
>back to the drawing board.
If you're talking form factor the m500 series is the best, imho for overall usability. I like some of the things on the Sony models but rather than improve the awful buttons on the s320 and s6XX models they go and make them EVEN WORSE on the T415!
I've found many of the Sony models (not the 415) to be bulkier than the Palm counterparts. Lack of bulkiness is important to me.
-Kevin Crossman
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Anyhow, Palm is developing OS 5 (thank goodness). Sony will not be releasing devices with it before Palm does.
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If you dont own a 320x320 Sony, you would really understand how great the screen really is. The screen by itself, is a great innovation for a Palm based unit.
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Please hold off flaming... I have told people specifically to buy Sony based on their needs... my needs were just a little different.
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And for crying out loud, get rid of the Memory Stick complex! Use the industry standards like CF or MMC/SD (preferable both)!
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graffiti on the Handera. Sony should do this instead of
pixel doubling."
When the Handera has to scale 160-pixel screens to 240
pixels, it looks AWFUL. Doubling the 160 pixels to 320
is a much better design, and allows Sony to advertise
"higher resolution than Pocket PC devices" (not that
they do this, but it's certainly an ad line *I'd*
respond to). I agree that a soft Graffiti area is A
Good Thing, but the best solution for that would be a
320 x 480 screen, as a previous anonymous poster
mentioned.
"QVGA is much sharper"
Hm? Presumably you mean as compared to 160x160, not as
compared to 320x320, right?
"And for crying out loud, get rid of the Memory Stick
complex! Use the industry standards like CF or MMC/SD
(preferable both)!"
The Memory Stick is a strategic technology for Sony
that they feel (no doubt correctly) helps draw in Sony
product owners to purchase more Sony products in order
to gain Memory Sticks interoperation capability. I
don't expect them to lay off that strategy unless it
starts perceptably hurting them (doubtful) or some
other technology comes along that truly obsoletes the
Memory Stick.
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UserName and it shows up as such on the post page, but
then when the actual article is posted it truncates
anything after the space, so I'm just "Dan".
m500 or visor edge
i never had a pda. so i'm thinking about buying one, the next week. which one would you recommend? m500 or visor edge? in switzerland the pricing of both is nearly the same (about 500 swissfrancs). or shall i wait for the new palm device (m7xx) ? then i expect a similar pricing as the m500 has been (up to 700 swissfrancs) few weeks or months ago? what shall i do?
thanx for your recommendations.
greets
thomi
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Palm m500:
SD/MMC card slot
Universal Connector
Visor Edge
Springboard slot (via clip on adapter)
USB connector
There have been very few add on devices to use the Edge connector (keyboards, modems, and such). The support for the Universal Connector for the m500 is just now getting pretty good.
Also, Palm does include a nice software bundle, plus it uses Palm OS 4.0. That's a plus for it, over the Edge. That said, both are pretty good.
-Kevin Crossman
Off topic
www.palminfocenter.com/forum/FORUM.asp?FORUM_ID=35&CAT_ID=2&Forum_Title=General
This should give you a good idea of your various options. If you still have questions, you can post them there, too.
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sorry 4 that. i didn't know. I just found this excellent site some days ago. So I didn't know alrealdy all features it has. i will go and have a look in the forums. thanx 4 all. your reviews (those i know already) r really great!
bye!
thomi
Anyone knows something about the display?
(and, btw, if I remember well, oled display are also cheaper than tft ones)
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I suppose I'll have to wait for the next year (thanks fot the link to the article Ed), stop dreaming about an m5whattheheck-witholed and clean my drool from the floor :)
speed between secure mmc card and 24X CF card
Same case when you try use in the ipaq 3900 series pocket pc. Those images tend to load faster when using 24X CF card.
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