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RE: why PalmOS 3.5.2?
RE: why PalmOS 3.5.2?
There's another option. The source of this info is wrong. That happens sometimes.
RE: why PalmOS 3.5.2?
Sorry for the confusion. I'm working from two sources of info. As often happens with unannounced products, contradictory information is circulating around. The first source says the I330 will run OS 3.5.2, the second, PDA France, says 4.1.
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News Editor
RE: why PalmOS 3.5.2?
RE: why PalmOS 3.5.2?
RE: why PalmOS 3.5.2?
Scott
Where's the keyboard?
RE: Where's the keyboard?
RE: Where's the keyboard?
Learn to use the technology you are using! I bet you never bring up a command prompt in Windows/XWindows either. Or worse, you are a Mac user. Yick.
RE: Where's the keyboard?
How long would it have taken you with Graffiti to write that entire posting? I've been using Palm OS for 3+ years and always find Graffiti and the on-screen keyboard to be useful only for very short text entry. I would never write this e-mail (or yours) without some kind of physical keyboard. Is it really just me?
RE: Where's the keyboard?
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RE: Where's the keyboard?
Im fine with it!
RE: Where's the keyboard?
BTW as an i300 owner, I agree with the post regarding holding off on upgrading to this model until 3G. Data rates are just too ridiculous to surf for long periods of time at 56K or 14.4....
RE: Where's the keyboard?
Ahh.. to the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing as wireless 56k for PalmOS smartphones at the moment. And, from my understanding (i've got a very knowledgable friend who works for Ericson) even 3G won't go much beyond 56K. There has been a ton of misinformation regarding this point. 3G means 2M of bandwidth PER CELL - but with 32 'users' for each cell. So with RF interference, count on 56K at best.
Correct if i'm wrong somebody. In any event, 56K on these devices is plenty great - and should be a huge leap over the current best of 14.4K.
RE: Where's the keyboard?
what's wrong with 56K, I am Cable user, but I really don't see the problem with 56K. The only advantage of Cable over 56K Phoneline connection is Cable has a more stable connection, other than that, Cable only provide you with faster download, but that not what you want on a cell. Do you wanna download a 600 MB movie file on a cellphone ??
RE: Where's the keyboard?
www.palminfocenter.com/images/img_PS02_Samsung_KB_L.JPG
Hopefully they will also release a version for the I330.
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RE: Where's the keyboard?
Even if there are a number of images, 56K connection crawls.
More and more webpages are getting fancier graphics and sound, and without broadband connection, surfing the web would be a pain.
I for one will never go back to 56K when you can have > >800K connection.
RE: Where's the keyboard?
And so, if after years of pushing it and developing it - and its going to be another year or 2 before its fully out there - and if ITS only going to provide 56k, then dont expect them to put anything ('4G') out there that will give broadband speed for atleast 5 yrs. Dissapointing, i know - but the big boys have much more to worry about: they've got to make their money back on 3G. This isnt like wired broadband which can leverage underutilized networks, because they've already pushed the current cell networks as far as they can go.
RE: Where's the keyboard?
I dont think anybody was comparing 56k with > 56K. They simply said that - relative to whats currently out there - its an improvement and its more than acceptable for email and web surfing - certainly next to 14.4k. I mean, viewing the web (in color) in the 'Palm' of yr hand. Too cool!
RE: Where's the keyboard?
RE: Where's the keyboard?
RE: Where's the keyboard?
why can't people develop new phones for ALL SERVICES???
Much Better
RE: Much Better
Other 66MHz Dragonball Palms
Has anyone heard/seen any PDA with Palm OS that runs on a 66MHz chip? If so, is there really a noticeable difference in speed?
RE: Other 66MHz Dragonball Palms
RE: Other 66MHz Dragonball Palms
CodeWarrior for Palm OS technical lead
MHz != speed for all apps
The moral of the story: for many purposes, MHz != speed, even using the same kind of processor.
-wg <><
RE: Other 66MHz Dragonball Palms
did motorola release a super vz processor?
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palm_pilot_guy
RE: Other 66MHz Dragonball Palms
The idea is that since %.0 devices are 6-9 months away, the SuperVZ would provide an interim performance boost for devices released before that, that use 4.1 or earlier version of PalmOS.
RE: Other 66MHz Dragonball Palms
why ?
66mhz isnt that great,i got my lousy m500 running at 60mhz. ran fine to,never even crashed. I personally am waiting for next years clies. The prototype photos look awsome!
RE: why ?
prove it!
RE: Speed
New Clies?
RE: why ?
RE: why ?
Is faster and looks a little nicer but.......
RE: Is faster and looks a little nicer but.......
No SD card???
RE: No SD card???
Yes basically it is just a Treo.
The Treo has one on it.(It has on the Treo (has base memory of 16 meg)
The Samsung has one on The Treo (support for analog but the Treo doesn't.)
RE: No SD card???
RE: No SD card???
RE: No SD card???
FACT MORON: Its a color PalmOS phone (!!!) and its only Samsungs second model. The first has been out only a matter of a few months and its the FIRST AND ONLY COLOR PDA phone! Do any of you know of other Smartphones that let you browse REAL web pages (html) in full color??? no - didnt think so. God some of you people have no lives and no motivational sensibilties what-so-ever which is made obvious by the fact that you miss the point of every damn discussion and instead think that this is a chance to showcase your unwarranted, ignorant attitudes. But more then anything you demonstrate that you simply have no life.
'its just another Samsung PDA' - no, its just another juvenile idiot wasting bandwidth and oxygen.
RE: No SD card???
RE: No SD card???
*Post of the week*
RE: No SD card???
Possibly, but I still like the comment to the 33MHz guy about eating his lunch through a straw. Hehe.
RE: No SD card???
Ever heard of marketing strategy and planned obsolesence? With each release of a phone, any company is concerned only with THEIR bottom line and, therefore, will put out ONLY what it feels is necessary to entice consumers to upgrade. Again, and again.
After all, why give us everything we want right now in a single phone, when instead, they can make a fortune off of us by dangling a new $500+ carrot in front of our stupid little noses every 6 months or so?
Don't get me wrong. I'm just another sucker that grabs up every carrot handed to me, while begging for more. I just wish we consumers could all somehow go "on strike." Maybe then we'd at least force the U.S. based cellular network to catch up to the technology already available in Japan and Europe!
However, most people would never believe that this is being done intentionally. One of the best quotes I've ever heard was something to the effect of, "Puny secrets are quite difficult to keep, however, the biggest secrets don't need to be hidden due to public incredulity."
Sept. 11th comes to mind... Really research the data, the timelines, the lies, the history with open eyes--no, don't; ignorance is probably preferable. Ever notice that dumb people, in general, are happier than intelligent people? Thinking generates questions that can result in the realization that "reality" is based upon programmed belief systems, whereas stupidity is easily programmed to believe in whatever "reality" they have been exposed. In religion they call it "Blind Faith."
WAKE UP PEOPLE. You aren't all stupid, you just need to stop believing what you hear, look at the facts instead, and then think!
RE: Man Alive...
Let me guess, when your flesh-and-blood significant other flashes that come-hither look, you say:
"Wow, nice features. Have you upgraded recently?"
cheers
RE: Man Alive...
RE: Man Alive...
M330 To be released in Korea
I read this information on the I300 message board...here is a link to the post.
http://www.sphi300.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1120&perpage=20&pagenumber=2
I tried the link that is supplied in the post but it looks like the site has exceeded bandwidth limits or something of that nature.
Here are the features of the M330 that the user has listed...maybe the Memory Stick expansion will be a reality?
the diffefences m330 has:
16M ram
expansion slot (digital camera and GPS will be out soon)
usb (not sure)
bigger buttons
new design (more ipaq than palm)
16-poly bell sound (which is a must in korea these days)
motorola vz 33mhz cpu
no lcd display above (for the expansion slot)
If this is true, Im sold...whenever it comes to the US.
jmlg
(trying to think of a clever signature line)
Service Plan is Key
Example, I check a stock quote which takes about 15 seconds. Great, I just got charged for 1 minute of air time.
If you're going to make a PDA/Cell phone, you need to seperate out your internet access from your airtime minutes.
If they can do this and make a workable belt clip, Im sold! I especially like the Memory stick feature since my camcorder is a Sony
RE: Service Plan is Key
RE: Service Plan is Key
RE: Service Plan is Key
I disagree. If Palm can offer an unlimited plan, then so can Samsung.
RE: Service Plan is Key
First of all, because the Samsung device is an all-in-one solution (so its a cell phone among other things), the responsibility of creating the pricing plans goes to the carriers because it is their networks the device will be using. Second, Palm is offering an unlimited DATA plan for $35/month. So would you rather pay your regular monthly cell phone bill then have say Sprint, for example, tack on another $35 for unlimited data access? NO THANK YOU!!!! Personally, I would rather get a bigger plan with more minutes that is only going to cost me another $10-$20/month over what my normal bill would have rather than pay a data fee of $35 in additon to whatever voice plan I chose. And with the access coming out of your minutes, you can monitor your useage for the first few months and decide if you need a plan with more or less minutes than your current one instead of just always paying an additional $35/month.
Wholy Pee Pee makers Batman!
RE: Wholy Pee Pee makers Batman!
RE: Wholy Pee Pee makers Batman!
RE: Wholy Pee Pee makers Batman!
RE: Wholy Pee Pee makers Batman!
Does a Journada count as an eyepack ?
http://www.kewney.com/articles/020227-journada.html
Tomb Raider anyone?
Mike Allwitt
-Cube Raider
RE: Tomb Raider anyone?
Can you view any web pages? How about e-mail?
does it take long to connect it all and get online?
George
RE: Tomb Raider anyone?
Mike Allwitt
-Cube Raider
Battery Life?
Half of this info might not even be right ...
What OS it runs, what color screen, how many megs are things that can change. To me it seems likely it WILL be 3.5.2 but it could be 4.1 possibly and possilby have a Memory Stick slot. Maybe it'll come with 8 megs? Maybe 16? Unless your transporting lots of different programs and documents, do you really see a need with 16 and if it has a memory stick slot. As for chip speed between 33 66 etc. etc. sure it be nice if it was 66 but who knows.
The real questions to really ask are following. Most likely SprintPCS will carry this phone it seems, thus will it work on CDMA2000. If it does then honestly why are we aruging over "per minute" charges when 3G has the data always on. Verizon in Boston (which just rolled out their 3G CDMA pacakge) charges 30 bux a month for unlimited data use on top of your cell minutes when you use a 3G phone. It's rated at 144kbps but again it's really more like a 56k connection but that beats the pants off the 14.4 that acts like a 2400 buad connection. Okay so your not getting a full meg of data at a time but does it really matter with what's out there right now over wireless?
Does the phone have GPS included? There were rumors abound that GPS would be built in post 9/11 as well as the loads of GPS software that Palm's have. Rumor or really it be true?
And the most important sticky point the Cha-Ching $$$$. How much will it sell for in the US? The I300 debueted at 499 and sold out fast with it going for more than 650 on ebay the first week. It's down now to 399. If the phone is more than the magical 499 price I don't see a lot of people buying it as much as the I300 was then again who knows.
Existing i300 owner observations
Most of what I'm seeing here looks like they haven't addressed most of these issues. So, I'm disappointed.
Scott
RE: Existing i300 owner observations - Battery Life?
For me, that answer gives me immediate feedback on wether or not to even think this through any farther (which is why I still carry and love my m505).
RE: Existing i300 owner observations
I'm hoping for at least a 4.0 OS to use the more contemporary WCAs, expandable memory storage, and USB connectivity.
RE: Existing i300 owner observations
Facts about i330
i330 is about improvements to the phone, not Palm.
Thus, the phone h/w and s/w have been upgraded
to cdma2000 for higher data rate. There is GPS
but that is part of the new, Enhanced 911 service,
probably. The bell ringer is much nicer than the
single tone beeper from i300.
RAM is up to 16 megs, because... why not? OS is
still 3.5.2, so no 16-bit colors, though the
LCD is much improved from i300's STN. The smartphone
is a bit lighter and thinner than i300, making
the feel in the hand great.
There's USB but its not true USB, since that would
require OS 4.0. No expansion, but well, you've got
16 megs so...
The CPU is Dragonball VZ at 33MHz, not the newer
66MHz version. Where will you see the 66MHz version?
Patience, my friends... i300 was a breakthrough
product, the i330 is somthing that you can really
use everyday, and the i-... I'll stop here.
* Innovate, or die! *
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why PalmOS 3.5.2?