Comments on: More Tidbits About the NR Series
The NR70 has been available in Japan for several days and reviews of it are appearing online. Muchy's Palmware Review has one. It is in Japanese, of course, but it includes lots of pictures.
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RE: Will wait longer
The Palm Vx is still the best PDA ever made by any company including Palm.
Let me be the first to say, "HOT DAMN!"
Yeouch!
Even Homer says "DOH"! (_8(|)
Wow
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You may have to wait till the next new model is out before Sony drops the price. Period.
RE: Wow
Take Note, Sony!
RE: Wow
However, Sony might not drop the price significantly before the next model -- perhaps a $50 drop, which is their pattern. Then they'll discontinue it for the next generation at the old price point, or higher.
Wow! Slightly larger than the T615!!
I think the pictures always show it opened so it appears bigger than it really is.
RE: Wow! Slightly larger than the T615!!
RE: Wow! Slightly larger than the T615!!
It is COOL!
If Canadians were to purchase
Doing a basic conversion, this unit ordered rom the US would cost me over $1100 with taxes plus shipping - whereas the ipaq is just over $1000 with taxes.
Ouch - I got my 615c from the US at a price cheaper than the M515 that is avaiable in Canada. I just can't see this unit being that big of seller at that price.
hopefully its an error.
More importantly...Any word on the Bluetooth stick n Best Buy's system?
RE: If Canadians were to purchase
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z6E12469
Snubolis
Vancouver, Canada
RE: If Canadians were to purchase
Also, that isn't the Bluetooth Memory Stick. That is Palm's Bluetooth SD card. Close, but not the same thing.
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RE: If Canadians were to purchase
Anyway, thanks for the info.
RE: If Canadians were to purchase
With Future Shop selling it at $250CDN, you can bet that the price will drop very soon. It's at a premium right now because it's only been a few days. Give it a few weeks, and it'll get closer to the wholesale price.
Ingram Micro is the wholesaler I'm talking about, and Future Shop actually orders alot from them, so I'd be willing to bet that this is their exact cost.
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If you sing in french while hopping on one foot, the evil birds won't come out of your bathroom mirror.
RE: If Canadians were to purchase
Even if they won't price match the price from the futureshop including ontario taxes would work out to about $322 (not worth the price). The price ordering from ecost including all ontario taxes, borderfree handling charges and a crazy $31.00 shipping cost (this must be wrong, but thats what is says), still it comes out to only $273 - about $50 less than buying it here. You would have to wait for about a week.
I bought my 615c from then during a free shipping special - keep your eyes open for that - this would make the SD BT card $80 less.
RE: If Canadians were to purchase
finer pics
http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/0203/22/n_fclienr2.html
http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/0203/22/n_fclienr2_2.html
http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/0203/22/n_fclienr2_3.html
and a movie
http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/0203/12/panel.mov
(the above link is originally in the article:
http://www.zdnet.co.jp/mobile/0203/12/n_fmclie.html )
English NR70 Review
www.spug.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24886
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RE: finer pics
RE: finer pics
www.spug.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24886"
Dave is a Japanese and a moderator in SPUG. The unit he has was purchased in Japan.
You can see that most of the news appeared in PIC, will sure to appear in SPUG website (www.spug.org) the next day.
Big english review already out here
SPUG already has an English review here with tons of pics. Battery life is as bad as expected, and hmm.. new virtual graffiti problem, doesnt look promising for a 500 bucks item.
No more Sonys for me.
I hate arrogant companies, and based on my recent experiences Sony is right up there with Enron and Microsoft.
RE: No more Sonys for me.
RE: No more Sonys for me.
RE: No more Sonys for me.
And to answer the other question, after what I experienced with Sony, I'd actually rather have lesser product if there was a corresponding interest in what the customer needed. I found out the hard way that as far as Sony is concerned, if they don't have it you don't need it.
RE: No more Sonys for me.
I have an M505, and I was actually thinking of the NR-v as an update for my system. I love the larger screen, I don't like the size, I love the Camera. But, at that price... hmmm, I am going to have to think a bit more on it. At $475.00 I was a go... but..
I still think it is a great item, even though most (some) people will find it to expensive/large/etc. it is beautiful to have something like this available for me.
Thanks Sony!
nategall says "blah!"
RE: No more Sonys for me.
Why should anyone trust you? Who are you and what do you know that everyone else doesn't?
Jim
RE: No more Sonys for me.
RE: No more Sonys for me.
Exactly !!
I don't want to spend $400 on something with poor quality (SUDS,Backlight-bug,low-res,dust screen,dead pixel,etc...) even their customer is PERFECT. LOL, no wonder they have GOOD customer service ..
RE: No more Sonys for me.
Yeah, THERE'S a compelling argument: "Trust me."
Sorry if you had a bad experience with Palm, but you really need to learn how to SUPPORT your positions. You come across like an idiot with comments like this.
RE: No more Sonys for me.
Exactly , Palm Inc. has been voted 10 times in a role as the best customer support ever on the face of this earth, just look at the situation of the M50x Series sync problem, they exchange any dead unit as many times as you wish, as long as you don't ask for a money back. Once your unit is dead on Monday, cll them up on Tuesday, they'll send you a refurbished unit on Wednesday, then when it's dead on thursday, call them up on Friday, they might send you yet another refurbished one on Saturday or monday.
Yes that's what we called State of the Art Tech Support system, 24/7 support !! Althought Palm Inc. makes crappy product, but I gauranttee you that you'll have alot of fun with the tech support people.
RE: No more Sonys for me.
RE: No more Sonys for me.
The problem is: I just don't want to have fun with the tech support people; I want to have fun with my PDA!
RE: No more Sonys for me.
On any given day, different users will call different companies' tech support with different problems and get different tech people with different skills and knowledge and attitudes. Where's the double blind test that would "prove" something? 100 people call Palm and 100 people call Sony and say they can't sync their T615/M515 on Palm Desktop 4.0.1 and EVEN THEN, if you get a fix, do you measure how long it took, manners of the tech, knowledge, care, nice phone voice or God knows what else? Isn't a long, rude, fix better than a short polite, "can't help you"?
I've had both great and lousy tech support people at EVERY company I've ever called. So what? No one can legitimately or fairly generalize.
I don't know what "vote" ("ten years in a role [sic]") the earlier poster was talking about, but I never got my ballot - did any of you?
Once again, this is just stupid sniping. If it costs more than you'd like to pay, don't buy the damn thing. I'd like a Maserati, but I'll have to make do with my Nissan (and don't ask about THEIR customer support).
Palm has a perfect customer support and Sony has none
Ironically using Sony (better product - no support versa Palm worse product - great support).
Who gives a ****?
Super-niche....
RE: Super-niche....
The S-Series is also here to stay.
The N-Series (w/mp3) is being phased out, being replaced by the NR-Series. Why is this a problem? No real needs have been abandoned.
You want strictly professional budget Clies, get the S-Series. Still the same.
You want sleeker, hi-res, professional Clies, get the T-Series. Used to be the n6XX...
You want a toy, you get the NR-Series. Used to be the n7XX... Yes, it's an item that will appeal to many, but be bought by few. So what?
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If you sing in french while hopping on one foot, the evil birds won't come out of your bathroom mirror.
RE: Super-niche....
Obviously, all this is on a "wait-and-see" basis, but as it looks right now, this particular Sony might not be the dream machine we all thought it was.
Europe too
Sony Sony Ra Ra Ra
After purchase we realized that the MP3 function is actually somewhat useful and the fact that the software mounts the memory stick as a drive while the Clie is in the cradle is VERY cool.
Now Sony is the first complany to build what I have been asking for since my first PDA purchase--a fliptop, built in camera, and more memory. I just wish it had wireless instead of MP3 (I'd buy a Treo but it's too small and there is no expansion).
The nicest thing about Sony is that their distribution and capital is so huge that they can afford to produce half a dozen niche models. I my heart belongs to the little upstart but economy of scale is hard to argue with.
I know they will build the feature set I want eventually, I just hope I don't have to wait too long for a clamshell, camera, wireless, no MP3 model with the improved IR (and maybe OS5, though I'm not sure I want ARM-based battery life). Till then I'll crawl along as the "poor relation" of this household with my Visor Deluxe (with eyemodule2 and memory module)
Nathan the Geek
RE: Sony Sony Ra Ra Ra
$600 .... : (
I'll wait for the OS5 and the next palm series...
If it cost less than $500, i'll consider upgrading but it it cost $600... i'll pass!
IMHO
Sam
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RE: HK selling less than HKD3000..come to buy!!
RE: $600 .... : (
No thanx!
Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
ALthough I like the new sony and the design I must take issue with the battery life. 5 Hours? Gees Louise. That's just pathetic. And here's a quote from the review mentioned by Ed at SPUG.org:
"And finally the big problem, Battery Life.
Sony rated the battery as being able to support this CLIE for 5 hours and MP3 playback (with hold button used, screen off) at 7 hours. Its kind of true, sad to say.
I used the PDA from yesterday afternoon, throughout the office day today (being new, it kind of attracted people, so I just had to show the girls about the new multimedia features, which may put an extra stress on the battery today.)
At the end of the day when I get home, the battery is flat. I would rate its power at exactly half if not less than the N7 series."
This is just UN-Acceptable. Once they can make this thing go for at least 10 hours (double the current amount) then I'll consider it.
RE: Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
RE: Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
Battery life will be there when the technology catches up. Right now, if you want something that thin, u'll just have to live with the battery life.
What kind of battery life can you get if you build a PPC in that form factor?
Because you can re-charge
RE: Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
RE: Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
RE: Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
RE: Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
Palm M-Series = Miserable-Series
Treo = The Really Expensive Organizer
RE: Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
B.S, who said that ? T615c with backlight on full v.s m505 with very dim backlight ? Ok, Ok , your lovely M505 wins.
RE: Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
RE: Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
I rather recharge my T615 daily so that I can save my eyes, not my batteries.
RE: Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
Yes, the sidelight was pretty dim compared to other models, but the screen was pretty easy on the eyes. The 505 screen, even with the sidelight off, had a better contrast ratio than most monochrome devices. That's not my opinion, that's the test results from Peter's Pilot Pages. I have upgraded from the 505 since then, but I have to admit that I was unable to find any lighting conditions that made it difficult to read. In the situations where I could not read a mono device no matter how I turned and twisted it, the 505 was always viewable. You just never had enough sidelight to impress anybody.
Oh well, that's history now. It's kind of funny,.. I meet all kinds of PDA users on my job and when they see my device they think it's a 505, but when they see the screen, they crank up their brightness as high as it can go before letting me see their device, then turn it back down when they get it back. Isn't it funny how we try and impress each other? Yes, I do the same thing at times. Funny creatures we are...
RE: Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
How can you afford to have both devices when you spend so much time playing games? The only time I played that much was when I had a broken leg!
RE: Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
RE: Can anyone comment on the MISERABLE battery Life???
To play games with in the unemployment line!
Sorry, couldn't resist... Seriously, I've been holding off on too much gameplay and videos as I get familiar with the M515, and it's amazing how much they suck up power. I usually unwind with a few good games after work, but since I have not been doing that as much this week, the battery life is much longer than my previous tests. Right now I'm at 8 hours, 33 minutes, and 7 seconds of runtime for this charge, which is equivalent to 17 days of normal use so far. The battery is still at 53%.
If I kept this pattern, I'd only need to charge my Palm 15 or 16 times a year...
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Will wait longer