Comments on: Rumor: Sony T650C to Include MP3 Player
Initially, the T650C will only be announced in Japan, not the U.S. or Europe. Other countries will, assumably, come later. This first model will run a Japanese version of the Palm OS.
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RE: There is a news article in Cnet that says Sony will work...
handhelds, but I wouldn't second-guess Sony. Guess I'll make the jump back to Palm.
RE: There is a news article in Cnet that says Sony will work...
Sony has great ideas but in every model it seems it forgets something. Then they correct with an updated version of the same model. This doesn't seems correct for users that already bought the previous model.
Another note is about buttons. I've a Palm m515 and I'm happy with it. But if only the 600 series had good buttons instead of the micro ones, it would be a very valid choyce.
Anyway, compliments to Sony for it's valid ideas and innovations. :]
RE: There is a news article in Cnet that says Sony will work...
It's not "forgetting something", it's innovation, improvement, and a great business model. With tech gadgets, as soon as you get it, it is outdated. When things improve, it's not because the maker "fogot something".
RE: There is a news article in Cnet that says Sony will work...
RE: There is a news article in Cnet that says Sony will work...
Right, and you should get the T615C, not T650C.
Possible T650C
RE: Possible T650C
I actually wish the units were *shorter*, like the Treo (although I'm not sure I want the Treo attached to my hip as a cell phone all day).
People make too big a deal about screen size. It was an issue with the m100, etc. because it was black & white and was poorly lit.
Actually, I wish this darn 650c was 320 x 480, but I'm not sold on the unit having to be 5 inches long in order to accomodate that.
RE: Possible T650C
RE: Possible T650C
RE: Possible T650C
My (poorly articulated) point was that I wish all Palm OS units were shorter.
I think Sony got it wrong by making them narrower, yet longer than previous Palm PDAs. I understand this, of course, is because the average Japanese person can't wrap their hand around a Coke bottle. Nonetheless, I wish these things were shorter. Like the B & W Treo. Too bad the color Treo is going to be noticeably larger than the monochrome version, as this will likely keep me from buying it.
RE: Possible T650C
Are you talking about the 500ml bottle or the 2L bottle? If it's the 2L bottle, I'd say you are a freak if you can warp your hand around it at the thickest point.
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After reading that you sure are pissed off. But before you fire back, think about how people with small hands must have felt when they read your post.
RE: Possible T650C
Get over being P.C.....it's "so 90's".
My lord, everybody wants to be "babied" on this planet.
NEWSFLASH: there are 6 billion + of us......we're not all that unique, and we certainly can't expect people to shape their dialogue around what may or may NOT be offensive to some hyper-sensitive person.
Got small hands and a small ego? Tough rocks. It's not like I judge humans by their hand size.
Where are the wailers?
"Why has Sony already made my 4-day old CLIE obsolete? I wish they would stop all this malicious innovation"
A post like that is about 52 minutes behind schedule....
RE: Where are the wailers?
RE: Where are the wailers?
RE: Where are the wailers?
The minute I saw the article, I thought the first post would be the usual trollish fare. Then again, it was posted at 6AM. They could all still be sleeping. )
Jim
RE: Where are the wailers?
RE: Where are the wailers?
RE: Where are the wailers?
Anyway, you guys were looking for a Troll, well I would'nt call myself a troll, I'm simply stating facts about a product I was thinking of buying but now I may just go with that loser of a company called palm which according to most estimates was supposed to be down in the dumpster by now, but instead keeps gaining market share and outselling their nearest competitor by a margin of 5 to 1.
RE: Where are the wailers?
RE: Where are the wailers?
ROTFL!!!!! What a country!!
RE: Where are the wailers?
"It's just a flesh wound!"
RE: Where are the wailers?
And to the Troll @ 1:40pm, when a new Sony device comes out, it does make all the existing Clie stops working & becomes a "backup remote". This logic has been repeated over & over again in various threads.
And minidisc is a huge success in Japan & Asia. In places like Japan & HongKong, nobody carries a Discman on the street -- people there use a miniDisc player/Clie for music.
Same thing for Clie -- Clie is much more popular in Asia than USA/Europe, because Japan, and maybe Asia, is Sony's primary focus. You haven't seen a Clie Advertisement on USA TV, have you?
The only thing I agree with you is the battery life.
RE: Where are the wailers?
Just because Sony releases a new model with more features than a current model doesn't make that model obsolete for those people who already have them? They aren't useless to you just because there is a better model out there. I have a N760 and it isn't obsolete just because the NR70 came out. It still works great, even though it doesnt have all the extra things I don't need.
Also, when they release new ones with features that someone may not need, they can now get the older model off of ebay or at a store on clearance for much cheaper because the new one has taken its place. It saves money so you dont have to pay a lot more just to get the new features.
RE: Where are the wailers?
Look at how much Palm has changed since the Vx, isn't that really boring you?
RE: Where are the wailers?
Because that's far better than buying products from companies which innovate so slowly that they are still trying to sell you nearly obsolete technology at full price.
I expect the PDA industry to eventually become like the Swatch watch business, where new fashion models are introduced every month.
Free SONY Marketing Research
Here is what a lot of us want:
1. Full Size Folding Keyboard
2. POTS Connectivity
3. Wireless Connectivity
4. Beautiful Hi-Res+ Color Screen (soft graffiti and landscape-able orientation) with built in software that takes advantage of the screen
5. OS 5 (if only so that we won't be stuck with limited software options moving forward)
Personally, I will not upgrade until all of these are available for the same unit. MP3, cammeras are ok.
Thanks, Robrecht
RE: Free SONY Marketing Research
RE: Free SONY Marketing Research
Thanks, Robrecht
RE: Free SONY Marketing Research
See also:
Apple Newton 2100 (1997)
RE: Free SONY Marketing Research
Dear SONY (or Handera or Palm):
Here is what *I* want:
Smaller
Slimmer
Functional and ergonometric buttons
Super high-contrast anti-reflective display
Great battery life
Built-in Blootooth (or other wireless)
Palm OS 6 (forget 5.0 I want native ARM apps)
Disappointed
I think personally that companies that attempt to quash news leaks are evidencing a certain hubris in believing that the news sites are intended as just another marketing arm of their companies, to be told what and when to release information. But if a news site is going to be news, not marketing, it means reporting from unofficial sources, and being critical when appropriate. I think that PIC generally does a good job of this, but the lack of a clear reason for taking the pics down makes me worry that PIC might have lost some focus on what it's trying to achieve.
Of course, that's just my $.02, and of course it's your site and you know the reasons better than I do for taking the pics down. I also may be ranting a bit because I'm only about 3 sips in to my morning coffee....
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Syncplicity. Redefining Simple. www.cognitiveroot.com
RE: Disappointed
I meant this as a response to the Kyocera request to take down the pictures, and somehow (because of lack of coffee, no doubt) confused myself in to thinking it was about the Sony.
My point is the same, just substitute "kyocera" for "sony" in the above rant. :)
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Syncplicity. Redefining Simple. www.cognitiveroot.com
RE: Disappointed
What's with the price?
RE: What's with the price?
RE: What's with the price?
RE: What's with the price?
If you took apart the old T600s and a new T650, you can pretty much bet there will be a lower component count in the new machine than in the old one. Part of this would be due to the functions provided by the SuperVZ processor. Surely no one would think Motorola would buld a new processor just for one PDA? Sony had enough influence to make the SuperVZ include Memory Stick circuitry so they where bound make further use of it.
Just as the NRs are updates for N750s, the T650s are updates for T615s, so you should expect them to be placed in the previous price band occupied by T615s.
Owners of VAIO notebook are quite familiar with Sony's continual upgrade policies and shouldn't be surprised by this :)
RE: Free SONY Marketing Research
RE: What's with the price?
RE: What's with the price?
Where is the second Sony?
RE: Where is the second Sony?
RE: Where is the second Sony?
All I want is...
Three little things and it would be close to perfect.
RE: All I want is...
nXt's Clie Club
Place To Be For Sony Clie Discussion
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nxtclieclub
RE: All I want is...
RE: All I want is...
RE: All I want is...
More info and pre-order
that comapny have an exclusive English Localizer for T650c.
any idea what is English Localizer?
RE: More info and pre-order
Quite common in Asia as the Japanese units are much cheaper.
RE: Free SONY Marketing Research
Update to T615 WITHOUT OS 5?
RE: Update to T615 WITHOUT OS 5?
RE: Update to T615 WITHOUT OS 5?
OS 5 almost seems like it is just gonna bring Palms and Handsprings up to date with the Sony models....in terms of better sounds, hi res screens, multimedia, and other stuff....
RE: Update to T615 WITHOUT OS 5?
Assumably is NOT a word
Not to nitpick, but seeing this on a fairly respectable news site is kind of startling. I have a friend who uses this non-word all the time - I guess he thinks it makes him sound smart or something... just makes him sound like an ass.
Anyway, nice news post, bad word usage. ^_^ V
RE: Assumably is NOT a word
So where was it?
Is the ROM of Clié flashable ?
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There is a news article in Cnet that says Sony will work...
About the T615 replacement. I just hope the reconsider the buttons and make it magnesium instead of aluminum. Alo it would be great to have a non MP3 enabled unit for less price, not everybody needs mp3.