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Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers along with other technology products for missing prior estimates. Despite the downturn, the share of Palm branded and Palm OS handhelds in U.S. retail both grew over the last three months.
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RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
-Ryan
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
See all those people who pick up NRs.
As I said before, if the current trend continues,
Sony will pass by Palm.
ted
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
But you might be able to see Palm's future from 3com
if things don't change dramatically.
Both have been under the same person's watch.
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
Palm is doing just fine.
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
The latest ones show Sony is gaining market shares.
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
In fact, Sony has surpassed Handspring as No.2 Palm OS device manufacturer for the first time in March. And that means it is taking its march towards the top if Palm does not wake up soon.
Eric Benhamou made a statement that blames a soft market for handhelds as the cause of poor sales at Palm is downright lying. According to ALL the research and stats companies (NPD, Gartner, IDC) it all points that the Palm OS has increased it's market share or are taking the larger share of the market. Aren't CEO's like that taken out to the courtyard and shot? Especially after Enron? Especially when their subsidiary PalmSource is able to maintain and increase market share despite new competition from Microsoft?
No wonder their shares are falling like May showers.
In the c|net article an analyst made a good observation about Palm Inc. They have not been able to come up with innovative products - just tweaks to existing ones. It pains me to see Palm (the hardware) slowly dying. Despite their lead, if they do not reinvent their hardware they will die at their own altar.
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
The public buys when the products answers its demands and an affordable price. When foreign companies like SONY supply what the buyer wants, American companies cry about losses and loosing market shares. They should restudy simple Economic princples of Supply and Demand.
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
You guys are such morons. I wish some days the iunternet was never invented because now every idiot has a podium. Sigh.
Here we go: Sale for all PDAs are down. Palm OS share of those sales is up - BUT THE OVERALL NUMBER OF UNITS SOLD IS DOWN. Yeah - Palm Inc (the hardware guys) is losing share to the liscensees - but he's not LYING by saying that sales are down because PDA sales are down. you guys have such a juvenile view of things. He is explaining why they haven't met their predicted targets. Those original targets would have already assumed a loss of Palm OS share - nothing on expected their. Sure Sony is doing well and nabbed another couple of percentage points (BTW i like Sony and own a beautiful new NR70). BUT - this isn't nearly the problem that overall PDA sales drop is.
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
> See all those people who pick up NRs.
I doubt the few thousand of those $500 devices Sony sells will cover the design and development costs for them. They are completely insignificant in the grand market share scheme. Their only impact is to improve Sony's marketing image for sales of the lower-end devices.
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
But in fact it is still growing.
I think when the new market share come out, Palm's
share will be down, while Sony keeps moving up.
Gee. A guy who buys a Sony NR tell me differently?
At least I bought a M515. :-)
It is guys like you who buy Sony instead of Palm that causes this problem.
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld compute
Do you really think Sony is struggling? Do you really think Sony has diverted even 1/10 of their resources toward the clie? Have you ever seen a commercial for a clie?
Don't get me wrong I like the clie but to Sony these units are trivial. If Sony were trying to push the clie it would have name brand recognition in a matter of weeks. Spiderman and Green Goblin would have been using clies.
By no means do I think, as some do, that Sony should buy Palm or would even want to. But do not fool yourself into thinking Sony has even entered the fray. The clie is now nothing more than an experiment.
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
I couldn't agree more (on the morons part)!
Discussion/Comment Sections seem to be frequented by a very diverse population. Many posts are informative, well reasoned and rational, but alas, an equal amount seem to originate from either people whose brows are not furrowed by the effort of thought, or those with some agenda.
Electronic spaces like these are not the Oxford Union Debating society, nor Stanford's Debate Society, not even Anytown Community College, more like Anytown High School, in the cafeteria - where teachers, alumni and visitors join in the discussion.
Thus, once one starts reading below PIC's contribution, it's probably wise to suspend expectation of much of anything too serious.
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
what do you expect? people will keep buying same old stuff, rehash of V/Vx?
Of course sooner or later the market will tapper off. That's what Sony is learning, keep introducing new model with some sort of compelling feature. At least you can claim it's a new and intereting handheld to own.
The "why do you need that" philosophy finally bit them in the ass!
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
First of all a forum is for EVERYONE to participate in, and yes, including morons sometimes. But to think you have the monopolistic right to YOUR moronic viewpoint, there will never be a thing called "forum". PIC might as well remove this feature and then you can report your monopolistic viewpoint without any discussion - moronic or otherwise.
Secondly, if you read the original c|net article and what the original poster said, in a statement made by Brian Blair, an analyst at hedge fund Bluewater Capital and I paraphrase "If the economic data about consumer spending is any indication, people are still buying electronics,..." he is saying Palm should not be putting the blame on weak market conditions but instead relook at their products.
I also find it funny that you have to qualify your statement by saying that you own an NR70. Does that make your post any better? Give it a little more weight? I think not!
RE: Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
So, to prove your point that the forum is for everyone, you tell someone who expressed their opinion to shut up?
Kind of hypocritical, isn't it?
Whole lotta nothing
RE: Whole lotta nothing
Once Palm OS is seperated. I don't think people care
about this Palm anymore. :-(
RE: Whole lotta nothing
From CNet Asia, Palm Singapore has toned down its usual many marketing events compared to last year. Event like Communicasia being one of the big event to be held in June 2002, Palm is not in at all.
SONY should acquire PALM
I think it's time that a responsible, competent company like SONY acquires PALM.
So much for the ZEN OF PALM.
RE: SONY should acquire PALM
RE: SONY should acquire PALM
RE: SONY should acquire PALM
RE: SONY should acquire PALM
SONY will never acquire PALM
Why?
What value is left at Palm?
The Zen?
Will somebody knowledgable pls step forward and tell the eager audience what remains more worth than a brezel making palm more attractive than - lets say a halve eaten cheesburger.
Benhanoutchi is still by far overpriced with a apple and a egg
RE: SONY should acquire PALM
Otherwise Palm will continue the slide toward the lower end of the PDA market and forced to sell more of cheap stuff just to keep head above water. Palm simply cannot compete in hardware innovation against the big electronic giants. (ie. they have better screen, better memory, and manufacturing overall ability)
frankly, one has to wonder why Palm can survive this long with all their incompetencies.
RE: SONY should acquire PALM
That's pretty funny that you can say that Palm needs Sony to keep their head above the water. Yo dumb*** what kind of OS would Sony use if there was no Palm??? If they bought out Palm and then claimed the OS and the company, there's another problem! Wheres the competition? Handspring? Don't make me laugh. I already laughed too much looking at the Treo 90 trying to be an ugly, overpriced mirror image of the m130. With just Sony and PPC (and a couple other companies), prices would enter close to the thousands for a mid-high end device.
So Palm needs Sony right???
Why???
Seems like Palm is doing a good job sitting on 3/4 of the entire handheld marketshare. Do they really need Sony to sell the OS to anybody? When somebody enters into the market looking for a handheld but don't have a lot to spend, do you think they like the Sony pricetags??? No, it's either the m100 series or the visor series. One more thing I would like to point out is that whenever one Sony comes out, a better replacement comes out in another 3 months. If I bought a top of the line handheld like a Sony NR-70V for $600, I would like it to stay on top for at least a half of a year. I'm sure all you guys who bought the NR are mighty happy right now. Let's see how happy you guys will be after OS 5. ARM!
RE: SONY should acquire PALM
Before we get too much junk
Pointless waste of time
yeah! me too! I mean if you don't have anything to add, don't post. (Actually, this post is also pointless, and a waste of time, so I probably shouldn't have posted it.)
Downturn not due to demand...
Most people who want PDAs or handhelds already have them at this point. I'm still chugging along with my Palm Vx and see no need to replace it with a new color PDA. The b&w unit does everything I want it to do which is just schedules, contacts, and the occasional note.
Frankly, many people don't need PDAs. A sticky note is good enough or something scrawled on a desk calendar. PDAs were cool toys when they came out, but many people don't need them. If you want to play games, then a Gameboy Advanced is the cheaper and better way to go.
RE: Downturn not due to demand...
Most people who want PDAs or handhelds already have them at this point."
This is probably true. If you are right then Sony's attempts to garner consumer interest may be more sucessful than Handera and Palm's attempts to corner the business sector. Marketed properly an arm based machine that will let people carry games, pictures, home movies, vcd and dvds and mp3s can be a killer (once battery and price issues are squared away). When's the last time someone suggested that the market was saturated with cd players and tvs? If you love Palm OS you should not have a problem with Palm and its sisters marrying their PIM functions to multimedia.
"If you want to play games, then a Gameboy Advanced is the cheaper and better way to go."
Why do people keep saying this? A gameboy is great for my kids but the screen is godawful by the standards of a Palm user. If Palmsource comes through with some of what they have intimated, someone will be able to build a decent gaming unit based on the Palm OS. Remember the turbografx express? A machine like that with SEGA's gaming API and Palm OS would be awe inspiring (once battery and pricing issues are resolved).
RE: Downturn not due to demand...
RE: Downturn not due to demand...
How many more V/Vx/m505/m515 can the market take? more of the same stuff obviously won't sell.
RE: Downturn not due to demand...
That said, I think these sites are geared for PDA entusiasts, not users who what to keep track of their names, addresses, appointments, and perhaps a game or two. Most users don't know what version of the Palm OS they have, much less what's going on with OS 6. Palm, Handspring, and definitely Sony have left this user in the dust. What I'm saying is that as products become commodities--as are PCs--you expect the entry level device to get lots cheaper and only offer the essentials. This isn't happening to any great degree with PDAs, or the main manufacturers would all offer a $79 beginner PDA. What I'm saying is that PDA demand is flattening because PDA geeks, who'll appreciate & possibly buy the latest & greatest are a niche market and can't sustain revenues.
Combination PDA, cellphone, MP3 player, digital camera devices are NOT the meat & potatoes of the industry regardless of how popular each of those devices are separately. Palm, Handspring, Compaq, Sony ... get a clue!
RE: Downturn not due to demand...
Don't know about that. consumer interest is still restricted by "why do I need that". Yet when businesses are more often equipping staff with them like mine, you have a market that continues to grow. And the question of "why do I need that" is answered by management with "Because I said so", or "because it's how you get parts X, Y, and Z of your job done".
Tools for business will continue to be an important revenue portion for Palm, HandEra and Symbol IMO.
Come on now
All those PPC companies ten percent or below, not even a factor. THEY are the ones that Sony will destroy. Many NR sales are people who would otherwise buy a PPC anyway. That is why Palm considers Sony to be a partner.
The reason why we know that HS and Palm are not turning profits is that Handhelds are all they do. We only know if Sony corp as a whole makes money. Same goes for Compaq, HP, and the rest. They could lose a hundred bucks on every HH they produce and we'd never know.
RE: Come on now
Palm Computing is a competitor of Sony.
When we talk about rev. of Palm Computing, it is really
the hw sales.
RE: Come on now
RE: Come on now
RE: Come on now
Scott
RE: Come on now
RE: Come on now
With the price of computers coming down drastically, many do not compare an apple to an apple but a small computer (PDA) with almost not a great different in pricing to a complete set of computer.
RE: Come on now
Remove HandEra from your concern list then. They were involved in other stuff before they made handhelds, and continue to be.
http://www.handera.com/services/default.htm
RE: Come on now
History repeats itself
Palm = IBM
Sony = Microsoft
Handspring = Apple
crazy!
RE: NO NO NO
Palm Inc IBM
Palm Source Microsoft
Handspring Compaq(?)
Sony Dell(?)
Microsoft Apple (ironic?)
RE: History repeats itself
Mid 80's - MS kills IBM in the PC market.
Early 90's - MS kills Apple in the computer market
Mid 90's - MS kills all others in office software market.
Late 90's - MS kills Novelle in network market.
Early 2000's - MS kills Palm in PDA market????
RE: History repeats itself
M$ doesn't have a prayer in the PDA and Game Console worlds because it envolves hardware. They can't pull an IE in these markets. But they'll dump millions trying.
Sony is the M$ of consumer electronics. Look to them for dominance in these markets.
RE: History repeats itself
I was just comparing the way percieved leadership in the handheld market these days mirrors that of the desktop market from the 80's and 90's. I was not saying that Microsoft will come in and take over, like last time. I think Sony is in a good position to take over the PAlm OS market, using the same tactics that MS used in the PC market. Sony puts tons of gee wiz features in their Palms to grab market share. Handspring on the other hand concentrates on providing solutions like Apple. Palm is a big hulking sloth that can't respond fast enough to market demand. Just like IBM was.
I'm getting a treo 90... :) go Mac go!
RE: History repeats itself
In this case, Sony's segment of the PC hardware market probably couldn't compete by bundling Clies with their laptops & PCs. I'm kind of surprised this hasn't happened yet, or possibly MS is gearing up to lay the commercial smack-down on consumers about how great the PPC is, and how convenient it is that the consumer will get one for 'free'.
As a matter of fact, I should probably not have even written this down. By doing so, I feel like I'm dooming the Palm OS community. :(
RE: History repeats itself
I don't care how few people at M$, Compaq/HP, and tech geeks throughout the world fail to grasp the "zen of Palm," average joe consumers get it, and that's what really matters. Bundling handhelds with PCs is a good idea, but it ought to be Palm OS handhelds. Boxing up a PPC with a PC would not sell.
RE: History repeats itself
Sony = IBM of the 1980s. Remember, back then the way that Microsoft grew was by piggy-backing on the corporate muscle of IBM. This is why, in my opinion, Palm has become so friendly with Sony. They are hoping to use Sony in the same way. Remember, Yankowsky used to work for Sony. I wouldn't be surprised if an understanding exists where by Palm agrees to forgo certain "innovations" (i.e., directed at a particular market niche) if Sony would use the Palm OS.
Palm = Apple of the 1980s. They were first, they got the early market share, they got bogged down because their hardware division couldn't get past the consumer / education market to the enterprise market where IBM reigned supreme.
Sony = IBM of the mid-1990s. This was when IBM and Microsoft were competing directly against one another (MS with Windows 3.1 and IBM with OS2). Sony is now competing directly against MS with its handhelds and with the Playstation.
what could happen
Stockholders get nothing
Bondholders get 2 cents on the dollar
Executives who caused the mess get huge retention bonuses
Lawyers get 100 million dollars
New company with money to burn buys palm
If I were in charge I'd flush the whole "m*.*" series down the toilet, hire new designers and produce killer handhelds in the following categories:
-entry level organizer
-power user
-smartphone
I'd co-produce a GPS-palm with garmin. Click on a name in the address book, and receive voice prompts through a hi-volume speaker.
Many people over 40 can't see very well. I'd produce a mini-tablet sized palm for the geritol set with windows software to print greeting cards from within the Palm desktop.
For younger croud I'd produce a water proof shock resistant sports palm with AM/FM radio and hi-volume speaker.
David in Pflugerville, TX
RE: what could happen
-entry level organizer
-power user
-smartphone
I'd co-produce a GPS-palm with garmin. Click on a name in the address book, and receive voice prompts through a hi-volume speaker.
Many people over 40 can't see very well. I'd produce a mini-tablet sized palm for the geritol set with windows software to print greeting cards from within the Palm desktop.
For younger croud I'd produce a water proof shock resistant sports palm with AM/FM radio and hi-volume speaker.>
It sounds like you have an idea. Go run with it. Get some venture capital and set aup a company... I'll be third in line to buy one of your gadgets.
Higgy
LACK OF INNOVATION
"If the economic data about consumer spending is any indication, people are still buying electronics," Blair said. He said Palm has not come out with devices that are compelling enough to grab those dollars, noting that the last several products from Palm are basically minor tweaks to existing devices.
"They always blame everything except their own lack of innovation and mismanagement of inventory," Blair said.
RE: LACK OF INNOVATION
I know that some people from Palm enjoy reading this message board, and I would like to take this opportunity to express my deapest anger and hatred towards the company and its executives. You people must really be dumb sons of bitchs, but alas, it appears that I am made to look even dumber by believing your prior guidance, and by buying more shares in this company. Maybe you will manage to turn the company around and eventually turn profitable, but for now, I would like to cordially invite you all to **** off.
Mario
PS: You will probably delete this post Ed, and I have no gripe with that.
RE: LACK OF INNOVATION, HANDERA too
Good riddens to Palm, HandSpring, Handera and PALM OS. Kudos to Sony on a job well done but I am through with Palm my next purchase goes to a PocketPC. Say what you will about MS but they don't leave money on the table when they see it. Palm and gang (-Sony) just piss away opertunity after opertunity. I wonder if they use Palm or PocketPC's at Palm/PalmSource??
RE: LACK OF INNOVATION
RE: LACK OF INNOVATION
Huh?
RE: LACK OF INNOVATION
Good riddens to Palm, HandSpring, Handera and PALM OS. Kudos to Sony on a job well done but I am through with Palm my next purchase goes to a PocketPC. Say what you will about MS but they don't leave money on the table when they see it. Palm and gang (-Sony) just piss away opertunity after opertunity. I wonder if they use Palm or PocketPC's at Palm/PalmSource??"<
Why can't you PPC trolls stick to your own websites? Go crawl back under whatever rock it was you slithered out from under.
RE: LACK OF INNOVATION
No. No. No. He/She/It should crawl out from under that rock and go back to grade school. There are so many spelling and grammatical errors in that post it is ludricous. My four-year old can spell better than that moron.
loosers should be losers
riddens should be riddance
opertunity should be opportunity
Bozo, you should use a Palm OS device. The spell checker program on your PocketPC doesn't work correctly.
RE: LACK OF INNOVATION
He can't crawl back unter the rock, it's too far from the outlet.....
RE: LACK OF INNOVATION
Why so angry on that point? Since they're not a public company I know you didn't buy shares there too. How does your perception of their success or lack of it, have any bearing on your general sense of well-being?
The end is near my friend.
Well there is only one problem, it's the answer of yesterday question and Palm is half step behind the curve again by the time it finish with OS 5.0.
The next wave is seamless information transaction over multi networks, with emphasis on reducing mundane task seamlessly everywhere. The connection between PC, PDA, and user will be radically altered. PDA would become more than personal digital agenda and entertainment on your pocket, what Palm is aiming for and has been done by Microsoft with current OS 3.0. The next step they think people want, after the "connected organizer" come to a crashing end like the 90's bubble. But nobody cares about playing movie or playing spiffy game over the phone anymore. It's an OLD trick. A trick wich Palm still have to make btw.
The future is paying your can of soda with smartphone and automatically charged into your bank account.
And the technology to do that is beyond what Palm is currently capable of doing. It's creation of infrastructure and controlling standard. That's what Microsoft has in mind with their .net plan. PDA has turn into a standard batle of the phone and software giants, where Palm is too small and too stupid to actually play along.
In the end Palm will be reduced into insignificant player who makes electronic organizer on steroid, interesting and colorfull, but doesn't work with any network standard.
RE: The end is near my friend.
RE: The end is near my friend.
Huh? Spiffy games have only just arrived on phones via Palm AND PPC smartphones. Up til now games for phones have been VERY simplistic and crude. And in the department - Palm actually beat everybody to the punch. With Kyocera and Samsung devices that came out last yr - people finally had the ability to to play reasonably complex, graphical games that were available in large numbers (dont quip back about this-or-that phone having games cause both the numbers AND sources are extremely limited for proprietary phones). have you actually played the sh*t games they have been asking people to PAY for on these phones?? ick!!
>>>The future is paying your can of soda with smartphone and automatically charged into your bank account.
Welcome to the new century - glad you could join us! Unfortunatley for u - Palm has been here already: They have had a Bluetooth API (thats right its called B-l-u-e-t-o-o-t-h, maybe you've heard of it?) for a while now, and the hardware division has a Bluetooth SD card available. Of course, OS 5 (the OS you claim is missing the boat because you don't actually know anything about it) has even better integration bluetooth and 802.11b (maybe you've heard of 802.11b as well?).
RE: The end is near my friend.
RE: The end is near my friend.
Uh...right, and e-commerce and the internet were supposed to radically change the world, too. Sure buddy.
RE: The end is near my friend.
OMG! Do you really think MICROSOFT can pull this off successfully? Do YOU trust M$ with your banking information? Think about it, the first time some amateur hacker gets into the system (like all other MS products), it's all over. Both for .NET and the people whose bank accounts were compromised (remember that little disclaimer stating that MS is not responsible for any damages that may occur from using their software?).
RE: The end is near my friend.
> and automatically charged into your bank account.
Bwah, hah, hah, ha, ha ... ha, ha, ha. Hilarious! Why in the world do I need a gadget that costs hundreds of dollars to do what I can already do with a debit/credit card? Do you have some venture capital you're willing to give me for other dumb ideas like this? Not to mention that there's absolutlely no reason why you couldn't already do something like this with existing Palm devices. Hilarious! Go back to reading your PocketPC FUD.
RE: The end is near my friend.
It's natural that smartphone do this mundane task. You think wireless PDA is about email and looking up few item on amazon web site and call it enterprise capable?
yeah right.... That's about as far Palm Inc can imagine and would like you to believe.
As long as the OS subsidiary is OK - why care
RE: Free SONY Marketing Research
RE: As long as the OS subsidiary is OK - why care
Yeah -they've really got the hardware market locked up!Re-read the what the poster said AND then think before making a comment that completely misses his point.
Palm needs a Bill G!
Palm is like the Netscape of later years, especially after the founders left to form Handspring and when it spin-off from 3Com. Working but barely, just enough to keep afloat. But for how long. There are many signs of this laziness on Palm's part - things that could easily programmed be/and should have been part of the OS like a better Calculator had to be bundled from Power One; the Office suite from DataVIz, and the Internet Browser promised but undelivered. Microsoft may have bundled everything but the kitchen sink into it's OS but it had made it for easier for both the end-users and licensees. Instead of the licensees paying once for the OS and again for the Office Suite, they just pay once even if it's more expensive.
Back to employees...Palm's leaders needs to get a hands-on approach, to personally work on the innovations, so that all their coworker would take heed and work with dedication. Palm should lead not follow....
Sorry if this piece lack coherence, I am typing it as thoughts comes to mind without proofreading....:-)
RE: Palm needs a Bill G!
Stupid management let their "Bill Gates" get away over relatively minor issues. Hawkins wanted a separate company instead of being part of 3coms. Eric realized that was a good idea after he lost his "Bill Gates".
Point is that another "Bill Gates" is not going to materialize until Eric B goes away and that isn't going to be any time soon.
ZEN OF PALM?
I am going to coin a new spiritual mumbo-jumbo for them. The Sin of Palm.
why sony won't kill palm
what helps palm survive is the low-end market. every pda maker including sony, whatever they do, will not be able to dominate that market ever because that typical person will probably want to buy a 'palm pilot', not a clie. palm takes advantage of its brand the most here in this area.
RE: why sony won't kill palm
Can Sony make low cost PDA? hey now....
you are talking about a company that has made disposable cost handheld radio, $15 walkman, $40 discman, etc...
what makes you think they can't make $40 basic Palm? They can, but they don't see why they should.
RE: why sony won't kill palm
the issue is not profiting, but selling MORE in the subject of market share. therefore altough sony is getting the maximum profit, it is not helping them increase their market share.
RE: why sony won't kill palm
Palm average selling unit has been falling so low, it's not even funny.
RE: why sony won't kill palm
Mourning morning
It's over...
2. Handspring can't figure out what to do:
http://news.com.com/2100-1040-929880.html
3. OS5 isn't here, it's too late, and it's just going to confuse people.
Time to get a Pocket PC, they seem to be way more stable.
RE: It's over...
but wonder if OS 5.0 will be released next week. Isn't it suppose to be out June 15 or so?
I Don't Hear a Fat Lady Singing
Palm still sells about 4 times as many handhelds as all the PPC licensees combined. It is having problems making a profit but so is everyone else in the industry who doesn't have a monopoly on a desktop OS.
Handspring is struggling but Sony is doing just fine. So are Kyocera and Samsung. There are lots more Palm OS licensees than you realize.
OS 5 will go golden master in a few weeks and your statement that "its just going to confuse people" makes absolutely no sense. Instead, it will remove the perceived MHz Gap between the Palm OS and Pocket PC. The two will begin to compete on number of apps and user experience, where the Palm OS already wins hands down.
While there are some good things to be said about the Pocket PC, "stable" isn't one of them.
I know a restroom when I smell one
If one would haven bought a truckload of toilet paper instead of Palm shares recently he would have at least once a day a nice and productive experience with a coupon. You can hardly wipe digitally - can you?
Besides having in the soft paper roll a comparable sound investment with moderate inflation only.
Experts could even figure out that over time one would have made a good deal sticking to a comparable hard value of a decent "french roll” saving the bucks.
So even you must admit: both products share a final destiny, but even then the paper might be finally floating atop, the Palm goes under like a stone.
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Palm has cited a downturn in demand for handheld computers?
A downturn in demand, or a downturn in demand for PALM's handhelds?
I guess replacing/refurbishing/reselling all that defective merchandise can wear away at the old profit margin too!
Yes, I know. Always the cynic...