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Mobile Wizadry has chosen the winners of its PalmOS Demo Programming Competition. These were designed to show off the technical and artistic skills of their developers and the finalists are available for download. -Aaron Ardiri
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RE: dual processors
Hope this helps...
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Ne0
RE: dual processors
Been bouncing back and forth with Palm tech support, but so far every single response has just been 1 of the canned responses they always send, "your files are corrupt, reinstall", or "hard reset your handheld, that will fix it".
Now I'll definately be trying to run hotsync on 1 cpu..
RE: dual processors
"To start the Program Compatibility Wizard, click Start, click Help and Support, click "Find compatible hardware and software for Windows XP", and then, under See Also in the navigation pane, click Program Compatibility Wizard."
Gary
RE: dual processors
RE: dual processors
Tried running in Win98 compatability mode as well as setting the affinity for the Hotsync process to only use on processor with no success.
This was true when I was running Win2000 as well so I believe it is machine specific.
Got a serial hotsync cable and now I can sync without error, albeit, much slower.
RE: dual processors
http://home.online.no/~a-dam/sa01.zip
Try setting it to the primary processor and see if it still bluescreens.
-aardvarko
webmaster at aardvarko dot com
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RE: dual processors
Chad Conrad
RE: dual processors
I've been using dual procs under XP for a while and had no trouble hotsyncing until just a few days ago. Now, I get the same problems reported here (failure in palmUSBD.sys).
Here's the thing: I don't have a Palm. I have a Sony CLIE (but we're all still friends, right?). So this problem probably isn't related to a single hardware model.
I've done two days of research (google palmusbd.sys and read and read...), and now I need to go try the answers I've pieced together from the web. This problem could be one of three things:
1. Corruption of the palm registry entries on the PC. Backup the PDA and PC and then go into the registry (gulp!) and delete the palm register folder. Reinstall palm desktop and associated conduits.
2. Static discharge has corrupted the synching software. Backup your PDA, go to memo pad and use Shortcut .3 to disable auto-off, let the battery drain, recharge once dead. Call Palm and get your free anti-ESD-enhanced cradle.
In all honesty, I haven't tried EITHER of these yet, but I'm going to as soon as I get home. I'll let you know how it goes.
--Graloo
RE: dual processors
Chad
RE: dual processors
See http://conrad.st/images/IMGP2531x.jpg and
http://conrad.st/images/IMGP2540x.jpg
RE: dual processors
P.S. My blue screen of death just looked those post by other people except I use XP.
RE: dual processors
i had a m105 using the serial hotsync cradle and must have synced about a million times with absolutely no problems.....i upgraded to a m130 with the usb hotsync and have had nothing but blue screens saying the problem is with palmusbd.sys.....i can hotsync maybe once every 3 times with no problem.....
i have win2k and yes dual processors!!!.....arrrrrrgh..........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE: dual processors
I waited for about 35-40 days to report this just to be sure, but I've finally fixed the problem with the blue screens during USB HotSyncs on my dual-processor system under Windows XP.
Before doing anything too drastic, I decided to first try installing the Palm Desktop 4.1 software update to see if this would make a difference. When I did so I noted that it upgraded PalmUSBD.sys from version 1.1 to version 1.4. This new version of the driver has behaved flawlessly now for about 40 days and many many HotSyncs.
Chad Conrad
RE: dual processors
I installed the generic Palm 4.1 desktop software on another system and found the palmusbd.sys and PalmUSBD.inf in the \usb_driver\ sub folder and copied both to my other system under the \Drivers\ subfolder. Seems Palm and Handspring/Sprint have slightly different dir structures.
Time will only tell if this actually works.
RE: dual processors
RE: dual processors
RE: dual processors
Sony ships version 1.1 of PalmUSBD.sys. I tried telling Sony's 2nd-tier support about version 1.4, but the tech refused to acknowledge that version 1.4 exists, and said that Sony's software doesn't claim to work with dual processors.
So...where can I get a copy of PalmUSBD.sys, version 1.4? It can't be any worse than what I've got now---BSOD whenever I try to hotsync!
Thanks,
Steve
RE: dual processors
I have PalmUSBD.sys version 1.4 - it came with palm desktop 4.0.1 I believe. However, it doesn't fix the blue screen problem upon palm sync that is associated with hyperthreading and intel usb controllers.
I have found that disabling hyperthreading in the BIOS will stop the crashes. (Depending on your machine, you press a key like F2, F9, F10, or Delete early in the boot process to get to the BIOS settings.) Unfortunately, I typically want to have hyperthreading enabled! Sigh.
I am running a compaq evo W8000 with 2 procs; the USB controller is the Intel 82801BA/BAM. I am running XP Pro all updated from windowsupdate.
Apparently the only solution is 1) disable hyperthreading and/or 2) continue complaining to palm to patch palmusbd.sys
P.S. Here is a link to another forum on the problem:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/tcforum/-t32646/sf73bae46ec78bd8b8ea41803d70cac2f.html
RE: dual processors
I am using two Sony Clies (T-615C and N-610C) along with palm desktop 4.0.1 and PalmUSBD.sys version 1.1.
So much for a stable new computer!
RE: dual processors
Here's a little background.
I'm using the Sony clie Palm desktop ver 4.0.1 with palmUSB.sys ver 1.1 to sync my Clie PEG-N760C.
I built a new computer with the processor being an Intel P4 2.8 HT -- with hyper threading turned on via the motherboard. I'm running XP Pro.
Like some others here, I was not even getting a BSOD during the sync. About every 2-3 synchs, I'd totally dump out and my computer would reset -- as if I'd just powered on the machine.
I took the advice of one poster here (I think "I. M. Anonymous") and did the following.
1) Changed the compatibilty settings of Hotcync.
"To start the Program Compatibility Wizard, click Start, click Help and Support, click "Find compatible hardware and software for Windows XP", and then, under See Also in the navigation pane, click Program Compatibility Wizard."
I set the compatibility of Hotsync.exe to Windows 98/ME. (I basically pulled that out of my hat.)
2) I ran hotsyc and turned off one of the processors. To do this, start up task manager (ctrl-alt-delete), select the "Processes" tab, find the process "hotsync.exe." Right click that process, select "affinity" from the popup menu, and uncheck CPU 1, leaving CPU 0 checked.
3) I do not run hotsync at startup now. When I want to synch, I start hotsync manually from the program menu, synch, then exit hotsync when done. (I don't want hotsync running all the time, figuring that since it's forcing use of one CPU, it may have an impact on performance).
I was pleasantly surprised to find that the affinity for one CPU appears to be persistent, as it's carried over between several reboots -- still hotsync runs only on CPU 0 without me having to select it every time.
I've gone from dumping out every 2-3 syncs to not having crashed in around a dozen syncs.
Knock on wood.
cliek
RE: Switch Already!
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RE: Switch Already!
Hmmm... can any one say "False Advertising?" ;-)
RE: Switch Already!
RE: Switch Already!
Oh yeah, let's not forget the 150 million Gates threw to Jobs!
(I'm speaking as an owner of Windows and Mac boxes)
RE: Switch Already!
The funny part of the Apple's "Switch" campaign is their number 2 reason for switching is "It doesn't crash." Now go to Apple's Support page, type in "os crashes" and you will get a number of articles on why programs, or the OS, crashes.
Hmmm... can any one say "False Advertising?" ;-)
)
I did the same thing, but all the articles that come up are for OS 8.X, 9.X or OSX Server (which came out before OSX) I didn't find one for OSX at all. My Macintosh running 9.1 doesn't crash, exept when running Internet explorer.
Alex Johnson
RE: Switch Already!
demo contest
Peace Out
Alan
512Mb SD Cards
Can Palm address anything above 64MB on SD/MMC yet using OS4.x?
mrscarey
palmist and visionary
RE: 512Mb SD Cards
RE: 512Mb SD Cards
I only had to do a soft reset not a hard one.
~above poster~
RE: 512Mb SD Cards
RE: 512Mb SD Cards
RE: 512Mb SD Cards
RE: 512Mb SD Cards - 128MB SanDisk SD Card Problems
If you can't reformat your SanDisk 128MB SD Card, get it replaced by SanDisk. I have no problems reformatting my SanDisk 128MB SD Card on my Palm m515 and I can access all of its memory space.
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duel processors?
i had a m105 using the serial hotsync cradle and must have synced about a million times with absolutely no problems.....i upgraded to a m130 with the usb hotsync and have had nothing but blue screens saying the problem is with palmusbd.sys.....i can hotsync maybe once every 3 times with no problem.....
i have win2k and yes dual processors!!!.....arrrrrrgh..........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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dual processors
BTW, Palm Desktop 4.0.1 (and previous versions from Palm) has worked flawlessly for me on a dual processor system (Windows NT 4.0 and recently upgraded to XP Pro) over many years.