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Apple has released the iSync beta, a new application that permits the synchronization of multiple portable devices, like Palm OS Handhelds, the Apple iPod, selected cell phones, and PIM software on the Mac over Bluetooth and wires. -Moosecat, Rabs and others
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RE: Zire Specs
RE: 1st post
Good for the person who wants a trendy Rolodex repacement, but not for anyone that wants to use the Palm beyond simple PIM.
RE: 1st post
Why is the Zire so heavy then, if it has a minimal feature set?
"Now thats just PRIME!"
weight
Cost. Lightweight design with ruggedness in the same ballpark costs more. That's why thin laptops cost more than fat laptops at the same MHz and display size.
RE: 1st post
Dude, its 3.8 ounces. You gotta work out or something...
Just to put things into perspective
NR70V=7.0oz
T615=4.9oz
N760C=5.65oz
IIIc=6.8oz
m130=5.4oz
m515=4.8oz
RE: 1st post
Zire
I recently purchased a zire and I have to say I am very impressed with what all it can do , for being only 99$. At first I didnt expect much after looking at the specs , but it really is a great choice for a student/someone just getting into pda gear.
specs list::
16Mhz DragonBall Motorola RISC CPU
2MB Flash RAM
(is about 1.8/1.9 after you consider PALM OS 4.1 (addy book/calc/memo pad/graffiti/note pad/Expense/2 games/clock/Date book)
USB connector(supported under the usb-serial driver in linux) works in OS X/apple and windows fine
160x160 monochrose display
Full Range IR port
zire's capabilities::
full range of personal information management applications (calc/address book/expense/date book/memo pad/graffiti/note pad/)
palm's greatest strength , if this is what you are mainly looking for in a PDA , dont bother with the higher end models , the zire can do all the personal information management apps as well as add-on apps like wine guide/tv listings/graphing calculator but has limited memory and no color screen /expansion slot
(no modem , no 802.11b(wireless) , no expansion keyboard
universal remote/*( I use it for my dvd/tv/receiver/)
works great
graphing/scientific/financial calculator
it runs PowerOne perfectly
(really useful for college students , didnt have to buy a TI/hp graphing calculator for physics/math courses 150$)
drawbacks::
- 160x160 monochrome display
- Only 2MB memory , very nice for 99$ but it does limit expansion
- No backlight (very hard to use unless in a very well lit area , think gameboy) *you can add backlight just like on a gameboy for less than 20$)
-change of the palm button layout against traditional palm devices (this impacts all games/applications that dont take into consideration that the ZIRE is short 2 buttons on the bottom , but easily fixable with time and developer cooperation)
CONCLUSION::
For anyone who wants a low-end PDA , that does all of palm's classic personal information management should pick one up.
And for those who are looking for the additonal features , it has decent capabilities... very cool graphing calculator(saves 150$ , I mentioned this before but I really have to stress the zire' strengths and this is one of the best ) and games *most old games require the traditional palm button layout , but give them time , they'll fix it*
for open source/GPL apps , and more reviews , check out http://www.linux-fu.net/zire in coming weeks
fourm
free apps
reviews
0 ads/not commercial
I am sorry, but I still think it's a white elephant.
Of course I didn't think Pac Man or Madonna would be very popular either...
strider_mt2k@yahoo.com
Not sure about packaging
Still gives it that impulse purchase stick it in the trolley look.
Zuber
RE: Not sure about packaging
RE: Not sure about packaging
RE: Not sure about packaging
Stuff at Amazon
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Fammy
I don't work for Brayder!
Cheers!
N473
RE: I don't work for Brayder!
iSync
On the negative side, I'm not going to switch all my stuff to iCal until the next major release - just need a few more features. Also, the syncing between home and office requires a .Mac subscription (which I bought anyway).
elo
P.S. Ryan, the new format seems to be working. The level of discussions seems noticably higher today.
RE: iSync
Now I would be even happier if iSync could completely replace Palm Desktop, but that's not likely. :)
RE: iSync
An interesting discovery regarding spoofing dotMac is that it uses WebDAV with digest authentication. This means while protecting the password, it does not encrypt the data. I hope Apple plans on fixing that. Of course, I imagine the ipspoofing exploit will be closed sometime (via digital certificates) since that represents a security hole.
iSync is pretty neat. I've had some issues with my contacts reappearing when I renamed categories, but it syncs my iPod, Palm m505, and a friends Sony T68i (just for fun) easily. There is also a small (but documented) issue with repeatable events. It is a pity that the Palm sync doesn't offer the same "select only these calendars, or this address book" like the other two, especially since iCal is designed to hold so many calendars. The iSync conduit doesn't need iSync started up. Like the old PocketQuicken, it will start up iSync when you do a Palm sync.
Another note is that you should turn off your Address Book, Date Book and To Do conduits if using iSync. I imagine that goes for turning off Entourage if you use that.
Take care,
terry
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RE: iSync
But mainly my issue is that you don't get to decide what overwrites what. I want my Clie to overwrite everything else, and you can't set iSync to do that.
Zire picture real?
Also, I thought Zire was a product line, so I would expect this device to still have some kind of model number.
RE: Zire picture real?
I think Palm is going with ZirePro, Zire III, and Zire V, as well as a z100 series, (which has many commercial radio stations up in arms.)
The name thing is actually an excellent point, I wonder where Palm is going with all of this?
RE: Zire picture real?
RE: Zire picture real?
'm150' , hope this helps
http://www.linux-fu.net/zire
check in coming weeks for more info
completely non-commercial/Open source palm apps and fourm/mailing list
::java version of palm desktop
more detailed zire information
Interesting
I doubt it, but it is fascinating, and it does fit in their strategy of the "hub" or whatever Jobs calls it. They could sell it as an acessory to the Mac, who knows.
I'm preparing myself for a flame, zi deserve it though ;)
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Several Months Ago at Palm Headquarters;
"Hah! Those sony bastards think that they can beat us in stupid names. The Tungsten T is infinitely more ridiculous than "clie"....."
RE: Interesting
RE: Interesting
And elegant, simple, stable, powerful, versatile like Mac.
And then again, PPC reminds me of windows, cluttered, shaky, expensive, bloated.
I dunno, maybe Mac will rebadge Palms like IBM did, and sell them Macs, they need a catchy name;
The MiniMac?
The Applet?
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Ever notice how reliable windows is?
No, me neither.
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Several Months Ago at Palm Headquarters;
"Hah! Those sony bastards think that they can beat us in stupid names. The Tungsten T is infinitely more ridiculous than "clie"....."
Zire... I'll take five.
I can see it now: a Zire stuck to my fridge (for shopping lists), by the phone (for notes), in the car, in my gym locker, as a universal remote... the possibilities are endless. Of course, this all hinges on them being *really* cheap.
RE: Zire... I'll take five.
RE: Zire... I'll take five.
My bet is zero.
RE: Zire... I'll take five.
RE: Zire... I'll take five.
btw , for all you linux guys , its supported under the usb-serial visor driver in linux 2.4.19/2.5.x with some tweaking , I'll post a patch to the kernel mailing list (cant even find the name zire on the mailing list yet)
tentative palm zire canadian price
i will post the SKU/webID asa i can ..
RE: tentative palm zire canadian price
RE: tentative palm zire canadian price
I would have preferred to see a $99CDN price tag (about $60USD).
RE: tentative palm zire canadian price
it doesnt make much sense to me either that they carry the zire and m105 @ the same price .. they are both non-upgradable devices.. except the m105 has the 8MB and 2 more hardware buttons, but lacks the rechargable battery in package ..
this $169.99 is just what they have listed for now .. it will likely change when they get the device and direction from palm canada and their own head offices ..
RE: tentative palm zire canadian price
Thomas
RE: tentative palm zire canadian price
RE: tentative palm zire canadian price
it holds over 150 contacts/2 weeks of appointments
2 weeks of tv listings , my graphing calculator for school with all the equations/worksheets in powerone,
my unversal remote software which controls my entire entertainment center , from my bose stero/digital cable/dvd player/vhs/250 cd changer
and about 10-15 games
QVC Lists the Zire for under $100
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