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RE: Battery drain?
So in standby it'll be drawing < 70mA - that's good - but if you have the card in chances are you will be using it - and chewing 297mA when receiving and 287mA when sending... not so good...
Roll on DMFC's, AdLB, Powerpaper... and whatever other battery technologies are being worked on...
Cheers,
RE: Battery drain?
A couple of caveats to my premise:
1. Sure, you need to be connected constantly in order to get alerts that you have new mail. Email alerts are a luxury to most - they're darn nice, but not a necessity for all.
2. Sure active web browsing (as opposed to cache-based like AvantGo) requires a constant connection. As many have said before me, active web browsing on your PDA will likely not become the primary vehicle used for accessing the web. It's more of a time-waster/meeting boredom reducer/etc.
But performing a network sync from time to time (and nearly as often as you'd like without having to lug cables, notebook, cradle, etc) to get new email and maybe even refresh browser cache, would be a wonderful addition. I'd be surprised if periodic synching via 802.11b takes more power than a constant Bluetooth or infrared connection to the Internet (or intranet) would. Am I wrong here?
Ick
RE: Battery drain?
with the 3000ma battery attachment the Toshiba E740 can do Wi-Fi 5-6hrs continuously. Sure it uses enhanced battery and not svelte, but the point is, if Palm keeps waiting until battery technology to catch up so WiFi can be put in m500 form factor for long usage, softwares utilizing WiFi will not be written until after. Than Palm will be half step behind in software offering.
RE: Battery drain?
802.11 NOT the one-size-fits-all wireless technology
Dual, multi mode or Software-defined radios (SDRs) who support various Wireless Technologies (Bluetooth AND 802.11 or GSM/GPRS/CDMA; see new HP/iPaq 5400 model with 802.11 AND Bluetooth) are prefered for future mobile devices, especially pda's imho. 802.11 and Bluetooth are complimentary and that's the reason why HP/iPaq seems to integrate both in all new upcoming 5000 models.
Bluetooth Makes Telematics a Reality; Daimler Chrysler, Microsoft, Visteon, Johnson Control, Saab, VW, Nissan etc. are all working on Bluetooth Telematic Solutions. Handsfree with a Bluetooth integrated smartphone/PDA and voice dailing would be cool.....one of the reasons why i think mobile devices with phone future should have Bluetooth integrated. 802.11 has not this advantage plus bigger sized chip, more costly (compared in quantity), higher power so battery sapping, no automatic synchronization), doesn't support voice right away, not mobile enough (limited to Open Access Points/Hot Spots).....
Bluetooth and (not Versus) Wi-Fi (802.11): Wi-Fi And Bluetooth As Complementary, Not Competing, Technologies
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=MSFT&read=113703
802.11 NOT the one-size-fits-all wireless technology
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=MSFT&read=113443
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
RE: Battery drain?
And? You can do that now with a HE330 and the Symbol WiFi card, with just the standard battery. No hyperbole. The 6 hour continous ping test has been mentioned long ago.
My device idles with an active but distant AP connection at around 12mA draw. It *seems* to be in the same ballpark as the 1st gen Toshiba/Palm SD bluetooth card for power consumption.
RE: Battery drain?
WiFi on PDAs is great---for email
There's no question about it, the ONLY think I use it for is email. Palm's screen resolution (combined with increasing webpage size/complexity) makes browsing the web live very uncomfortable.
Now here's the frustrating part---(and I'm going against what I said about the new SD cameras, I know)---I can't use a keyboard and my WiFi sled at the same time. If I had an SD-based WiFi card then I could reply to email from my local coffee shop. Whohoo!
What I really want is a PDA with two expansion slots---one SD for memory and one UC-like for peripherals, and I want the UC one (like USB) to daisy-chain easily so I can use multiple peripherals at the same time!
Palm Researcher at the University of Texas at Austin
http://www.edb.utexas.edu/petrosino/pda
RE: WiFi on PDAs is great---for email
get one of those cheapo PPC with built in WiFi. E740 goes for $370 or so after rebate in amazon. I don't think even the upcoming $199 Dell can compete with any built in wireless like OS 5.0 Tungsten. Since you still have to pay for $140 WiFi CF card etc...
just a thought.
RE: WiFi on PDAs is great---for email
I just want a handheld device which manages my PIM functions, one of them being email. And I want a way to check my email while out and about. But most importantly I want it to be easy to use, like Palm has been since 1996.
Thanks
Palm Researcher at the University of Texas at Austin
http://www.edb.utexas.edu/petrosino/pda
RE: WiFi on PDAs is great---for email
From what I've heard, OS 5 has a GREAT browser built-in that should make browsing much nicer.
Michael T. Ashby
Director
InterPUG
http://www.interpug.com
Great for MORE than just email!!!
Brett Banks
I love my Palm Dictoinaree
RE: WiFi on PDAs is great---for email
I find I use different browsers for different sites. Blazer for some, Xiino for others that require Javascript, and Eudora for very fast text-based access.
I am looking forward to this SD card so I can enjoy the same convenience on my Treo 90.
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RE: WiFi on PDAs is great---for email
WiFi on PDAs is great for email.....when you are "networking" and in range of access point/hotspots. Add Bluetooth and you have a wireless cable function with other devices, automatic synchronization and wireless connectivity threw telecom networks like GSM, GPRS or CDMA for real mobility. It's mainly a matter of costs, but i like to see both wireless options on my future mobile devices.
jmho.
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
RE: WiFi on PDAs is great---for email
I am not sure who is crazy enough needing 3 radio built in into one unit tho'.
RE: WiFi on PDAs is great---for email
http://microsoftmobiles.com/phones/ipaq5000cdma/index.html
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=MSFT&read=113749
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
RE: WiFi on PDAs is great---for email
Thanx in advance ;o)
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
RE: WiFi on PDAs is great---for email
I'm looking forward for the new Kyocera (my next Palm I think) and was wondering if that sweetheart will have IR port so I can use my keyboard. I think I'll have to trow away the xircom sleed, but that new card would be great.
Here come my unanswered questions:
1. Will the new Kyocera have IR port?
2. The new Kyocera VS an OS 5 device, wich one wins??
3. Does anybody know about a carryng case that can fit a Palm with the Xircom sleed mounted and a keyboard?
4. Is any company working on a SD adapter that can put 2 SD card in one slot, so I can make my dream true, the Kyocera with the WiFi SD and the memory SD?
Also I emailed Sychip an that's what I get:
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SyChip will not be selling the card directly but via our accessory partners and major OEMs. These have yet to be annouced. The WLAN SD card is expected to be available at all major retail stores in Q2 of 2003. Pricing has yet to be announced.
Regards
Navi
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Mayorga Adame [mailto:al361815@academ01.zac.itesm.mx]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 2:21 PM
To: info@sychip.com
Subject: Info WLAN 6060
Hi:
I'd like to know when it'll be available in Mexico and how much will it cost.
Thanks in advance
Alex Mayorga
=====================================================
Greetings from Mexico
Technology moves faster than you can afford... at least for me.
RE: WiFi on PDAs is great---for email
Cool!
I work alot of trade shows where guys are walking around connected back to thier booth PCs. It's a very nice way to grab pricing data and other stuff.
The industry that I work in is also looking for more wireless connection options for video transmission as well. I hope the new generation of Palm OS devices makes use of it all, video AND wireless.
Hmmm, if someone makes a handheld with 2 SD slots, in theory one could snap pics and send them off using a camera card and WIFI (or bluetooth) card! :D
RE: Cool!
Personally, I would like someone to build a BT "hub" with an enhanced power supply. The "hub" has enough intelligence to serve files from a multitude of devices (1GB CF microdrive, CF card, SD, MS), and act as a hub for an integrated WiFi connection. That might be an option to get around the limited number of slots available in PDAs for expansion.
Just a thought.
~ "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed." - DV ~
sony, when will be your turn?
even a smaller SD can have a WiFi card. What about you?
RE: sony, when will be your turn?
RE: sony, when will be your turn?
RE: sony, when will be your turn?
Palmpro, IIIe, Vx, IIIxe, m505
& Clie Peg-T665c owner
email add: graph101@comcast.net
T665c photos:
http://www.kaizenbiz.com/jush/pub/album/2002_07_11-Clie-t665c/FrameSet.htm
RE: sony, when will be your turn?
The unfortunate thing is that there haven't been much in the way of devices for the Memory Stick slot. At least they aren't here YET.
Michael T. Ashby
Director
InterPUG
http://www.interpug.com
RE: sony, when will be your turn?
-- derby
RE: sony, when will be your turn?
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Mario
O/T Mod
[url]http://www.wc101.com[/url]
RE: sony, when will be your turn?
Here's a link to their site: http://www.memorystick.org/msinfo/eng/ms/duo.html
As you will notice, one of the items is an adapter to use a Duo in a standard MS socket. I can envisage an adapter haveing BT built in, thus effectively giving older single stick users a dual stick device. This may also explain why the new small MS is called the Duo.
Fun and games, fun and games....
FBN
RE: sony, when will be your turn?
"For Bluetooth and wireless connections, Sony said it is preparing for them."
http://www.wirelessweek.com/index.asp?layout=story&articleId=NEa1001062.3iw
Sony will introduce the PEGA-MSB1, a Memory Stick that adds Bluetooth connectivity to its CLIE line of PDAs, to the European market. I'd be surprised if Sony chose to not introduce the PEGA-MSB1 into the US market as well.
http://www.sony-europe.com/presscenter/PressShow.x?articleid=816
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
RE: sony, when will be your turn?
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
RE: sony, when will be your turn?
RE: sony, when will be your turn?
So can bluetooth be. The specs on the 1st gen Toshiba/Palm SD Bluetooth card taken from their literature is: 100mA (max. 150mA)
RE: sony, when will be your turn?
I wouldn't imagine it will be too much faster.
The sled is a serial connection. And the SD slot is essentially also a higher rate serial connection. You'll note from the specs on SD slot Mxxx series devices (and HandEra 330 as well), that the faster 4-wire mode isn't usable because those pins aren't connected. Thus you're limited to either 1-bit or SPI mode.
CF WiFi still has the theoretical benefit of 8 and 16 bit data transfers. Still that tends to be obliterated by our current hardware with the constraint of every 4th clock tick at 33Mhz.
Not until we're all using ARM hardware will we see much more speed out of our card slots.
But that doesn't mean I'm not enjoying WiFi on my 330 in the mean time.
Battery Technology Advancements
Any one want to guess on pricing?
--Dave
RE: Any one want to guess on pricing?
Besides, if you go with "Tungsten," you don't have the dual slot option.
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