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Handspring, today released a new version of its Treo Mail software that delivers improved email performance to Treo customers and adds support for Lotus Notes. Treo Mail 1.5 automativcally sends messages in the background and when used on high-speed 1xRTT or GPRS data networks, Treo Mail will synchronize faster and more frequently for an ideal mobile email experience.
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Treo Mail v. 1.5

gdortch2716 @ 11/4/2002 12:25:51 PM #
"when used on high-speed 1xRTT or GPRS data networks, Treo Mail will synchronize faster and more frequently for an ideal mobile email experience"

That WOULD BE great if 270 owners here in the USA could actually access GPRS data networks without voiding their warranty. Handspring, release the GPRS update for us! Why have you sold out to Sprint at the expense of 270 owners? Grrr.

Give me GPRS or give me death!

RE: Treo Mail v. 1.5
Admin @ 11/4/2002 12:34:18 PM #
I imagine the hold up with Treo GPRS is because of the carriers and not handspring, you should write to them to complain!
RE: Treo Mail v. 1.5
cyn @ 11/4/2002 12:49:52 PM #
I seem to remember reading that you can get an unlimited data plan of 1xRTT through a special promotion for ONLY $99/mo!

Can't even get unlimited data plans for GPRS - generally $20/40/60 for 5/10/20mb.

Data services are still too damned expensive. You can get a few unlimited plans for special scenarios - like the tmobile sidekick (danger hiptop), blackberrys, etc. - I don't believe the treo's have unlimited plans [could be wrong...] - it's just a damned shame.

All the aforementioned prices have to be HALVED before anyone but the top 3-5% of bleeding edge consumers will give these things a second glance.

RE: Treo Mail v. 1.5
Admin @ 11/4/2002 12:54:48 PM #
Tmobile just started a $10/mo for 10MB data plan for GPRS. Prices are still very much in the high end though.
RE: Treo Mail v. 1.5
legalalien @ 11/4/2002 1:53:05 PM #
[quote]I seem to remember reading that you can get an unlimited data plan of 1xRTT through a special promotion for ONLY $99/mo![/quote]

Sprint offers PCSVision (1xRTT) with unlimited data for $10 per month on top of your voice plan. PDA-to-phone connections are not allowed, but I believe integrated devices like Treo are.

RE: Treo Mail v. 1.5
gdortch2716 @ 11/4/2002 3:06:35 PM #

I have contacted T-Mobile on several occasions and they always insist it's Handspring's problem, not theirs. Of course, Handspring says . . . . .

Regardless of whose "fault" it is, the 270 owners are the people left holding a bag full of empty promises.

Give me GPRS or give me death!

RE: Treo Mail v. 1.5
cyman777 @ 11/8/2002 6:31:37 AM #
Of course T-Mobile lets you down - they push out their really nasty WinCE MDA. In Europe they donīt even know about the treo in their call centers and state that "we only support our MDA / CE devices".

Great. To stay in the lead Palm OS has to sign distribution contracts with ISP / Mobile phone SP, IMHO!

If you're going to spend money...

mashby @ 11/4/2002 1:22:39 PM #
If I'm going to purchase a mail program, I think I'll purchase SnapperMail ( Treo mail is ok, but once you go Snapper, you'll never go back. :)

Michael T. Ashby
RE: If you're going to spend money...
Altema @ 11/4/2002 1:48:12 PM #
Michael, does Snapper mail let you set server authentication?

I recently was forced from Ameritech to SBC Yahoo, but their smtp servers require authentication be turned on, and that is not an option in MultiMail SE, my current email client.

RE: If you're going to spend money...
Altema @ 11/4/2002 2:51:27 PM #
I downloaded and installed SnapperMail. I did not see any authentication settings, but it does let you set SnapperMail to receive before sending,.. which may work according to Yahoo tech support. I'll find out in a little while :)

Impressive package though... Being able to beam attachments to PPC devices directly will be a hoot. If it works, I'll buy.

RE: If you're going to spend money...
snapperfish @ 11/4/2002 5:28:18 PM #
Yup, SnapperMail supports SMTP Auth as well as Pop before send. We've got lots of Yahoo and Sprint guys running it nicely (they both require SMTP Authentication). Just fill in the optional Username and Password logins for SMTP in the account settings.

Will Lau
Snapperfish Ltd
A killer email client, beta now available...

RE: If you're going to spend money...
joshmogal @ 11/8/2002 11:32:08 AM #
Will - can you clarify something? Treo Mail has an annual charge while Snapperfish appears to have a one-time charge. Since you occaisonally utilize a server for attachment conversion and thus have your own ongoing operational costs, is that covered by the one-time payment for the software or do you also have recurring fees?

Joshua Mogal
RE: If you're going to spend money...
bbq_chef @ 4/22/2003 10:29:34 AM #
I installed Snapper mail, but I've had problems connecting to my isp, which is attbi. I have no problems checking my email with Eudora for the palm (which is free). Has anyone found a way to check AT&T Broadband email using Snapper Mail?

Givin' it a shot

nrosser @ 11/4/2002 2:08:00 PM #
I've been using Sprint's Business Connection software for a couple of months, and thought I'd give the new TreoMail a chance. Seems very nice so far, since this morning. Some of the user interface things are a little better with TreoMail. A longer term trial will tell the whole story.

Tungsten compatibility

hhammer @ 11/4/2002 2:55:11 PM #
It would be great if they would release a version that worked with other devices. I would love to use this with my Tungsten and AT&T T68i on their gprs network..

More color...nice. But more resolution is better

Foo Fighter @ 11/4/2002 2:58:40 PM #
What Treo needs is better resolution. I would really like to see an OS5/ARM/OMAP based Treo running at 320x320.

"it's better to be a pirate than join the navy." - Steve Jobs

Treo Mail good, Treo phone bad

gfunkmagic @ 11/5/2002 4:18:27 AM #
Whatever software upgrades Handspring makes, its main focus should be on introducing a Treo w/expansion capabilites. This issue coupled w/lack of high rez screen is a rel trun off... oh BT wouldn't be that bad either!

Treo Mail & PGP

mhamrick @ 11/5/2002 2:31:20 PM #

My biggest beef against TreoMail was that you couldn't use it with PGP Wireless. Granted, crypto operations on a Treo are pretty slow, but there are a couple of situations where the questionable Visto encryption just wasn't enough. The problem with TreoMail + PGP is that TreoMail won't let you cut or copy more than 1000 characters, so I could never cut complete PGP messages out of TreoMail and into a Memo for decryption. For a while I used MarkSpace with PGP successfully, but there were problems getting it to work reliably (don't know why, other Treo owners didn't have any problems, might have been my service provider, and the M/S support guys were pretty good about helping me debug the problem.) Eventually this (and the battery life bug, and the inability to get GPRS) led me to drop the Treo 270 and start using the Diamond Revo I was using last year. I was able to pickup a Motorola Timeport L7089 on eBay pretty cheaply, and can now successfully receive and send email on my mobile device. Another nice thing is that I can get PGP at not-completely-disrespectful speeds, and I have a phone that is... well.. it's a phone. Last year I was pretty hot for a convergence device, now I'm thinking more and more about the day when I can use something like Bluetooth to network my PDA and my phone.

So... my big question for the new TreoMail is, can one copy and paste more than 1000 characters at a time, or is there direct PGP support?

Anyone with more of an interest in security issues might want to look at:



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