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RE: Yes!
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So a market growth rate of 52% for next year is bad?
Excellent news for the PalmOS Platform!
What no Microsoft...
RE: What no Microsoft...
PPCs available to the Japanese and Chinese market:
Toshiba Genio-e
Toshiba Pocket PC e570
NEC Mobile Pro
dopod 686
MiTAC 528
Compaq iPaq Pocket PC H3870/H3835
Compaq iPAQ H3970
Acer n20
Acer n20w
xda
MyPal A600 (Asus)
ViewSonic Pocket PC V35
Eten InfoTouch P600
Fujitsu-Siemens Pocket LOOX
Legend XP100
None of these are English-only.
New Handheld
-Ryan
webmaster@palminfocenter.com
RE: New Handheld
This even will mainly touch on:
- Helping Chinese developers understand PalmSource's vision
- Giving Chinese developers more info on what the new OS can do (e.g. wireless, market competitiveness)
- Overview on the development tools
People such as David Nagel, Steve Sakoman, and Michael Mace will give speeches.
Also, a page is given for interested parties to register for this event.
RE: New Handheld
M5XX form factor, and a fully bright screen.
Where has PIC been the last 2 months? Its like theres no news anymore, and PIC is dead.
"Now thats just PRIME!"
RE: New Handheld
FBN
OS 4.2
I know that this change in reverstion number maybe due to the complete localization in another language (in this case, Chinese). But will PalmSource put this on sale as a stand alone OS? I'd really like to have my PDA in my first language. CJKOS is doing a fine job, but it just take too much memory and have too many 'minor' problems with Englsih apps.
Don't count those Yen just yet...
RE: Don't count those Yen just yet...
RE: Don't count those Yen just yet...
Wassup?
RE: Don't count those Yen just yet...
Legend in the US
Legend will sell you one for $1825 list US. The Post Office pays about $400 for each. They are very rugged with a couple dozen buttons, tiny 8 line by 25 collumn text only display and Intel 80386 processor.
Now, if Legend sells these to the Post Office for the same discount from list price, I might be able just take mine home and let them charge me $25 bucks for losing it?
Anyway, Legend is a HUGE Chinese company.
PalmSource also annouces 2nd Chinese Licensee!
There are the third largest pda and smartphone maker in the Asia!
RE: PalmSource also annouces 2nd Chinese Licensee!
OS 4.2?
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More info on the announcements
Here's a little more detail for you on today's announcements...
--Both Legend and Group Sense Limited announced that they have licensed Palm OS. Legend is China's largest PC company, and GSL is the fastest-growing handheld company in China (according to Gartner Group, based on yearly growth).
--GSL didn't describe the hardware it'll be making, but its chairman gave a speech describing opportunities in several markets. Legend showed a handheld running Palm OS. It includes a 240x320 color screen, card slot, and soft Graffiti. Quite nice looking, and extremely lightweight.
--PiTech announced that it's a Palm OS Ready partner. That means it has a sublicense to the OS that'll enable it to help other licensees bring products to market (it's similar to our relationships with Intel, Motorola, and Texas Instruments). PiTech is what we call an "Original Design Manufacturer," which means it designs and builds devices for other companies.
--We announced forthcoming Chinese versions of Palm OS 4 and Palm OS 5.
--We announced relationships with two Chinese universities that will teach Palm OS programming to students.
--Several existing Palm OS licensees discussed their plans for the Chinese market, including Acer, Handspring, Palm Solutions, Samsung, Sony, and Symbol.
A bunch of us are over here at our first Chinese developer conference.
China is the world's second largest handheld market, with about 20% of the world's handheld units last year.
Mike
CCO
PalmSource, Inc.
RE: More info on the announcements
RE: More info on the announcements
I would assume that it does use OS 5 hi-res APIs.
RE: More info on the announcements
I think it is likely that Legend will use this API along with an extension to support a virtual graffiti area, but I could be wrong.
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Ben Combee, CodeWarrior for Palm OS technical lead
Programming help at www.palmoswerks.com
RE: More info on the announcements
I couldn't find a single piece of information on the PalmOS site as to the Chinese font encoding used by the Acer (big5 or gbxxxx?). The CJK/OS author also provides zero programming documentation. Although Shift-JIS was mentioned as a possible Kanji encoding, there were no examples. And there's even less information on the input methods. So now there is going to be another mystery OS (presumably supporting Big-5 encodings?), with the Palm name, but no documentation?
RE: More info on the announcements
Thanks for the tip Ben. Still - this is a pain. I don't need the hassle of writting YET MORE CODE to support something that isn't supported by Constructor. In fact - this is becoming a serious pain in the ass. I have have had a hell of a time making my code support pre-OS 5 (2bit,greyscale,color at 160x160 ), AND OS 5 API(16bit color at 320x320 ) AND with Sony. Finally a new version of Codewarrior is upon us and there is already a damned 'new' mode to deal with that isn't supported. crap. I just make database type apps - nice ones w/icons mind you. I am currently having trouble getting a custom hi-res font to work in OS 5 (to match the low-res version i have) - it seems that adding intelligence to my code to deal with different graphics capabilities of Palm OS devices is becoming a HUGE amount of overhead these days.
RE: More info on the announcements
I think that Constructor should be updated in a timely fashion by PalmSource to handle this as well as handling Chinese text input. Remember that Constructor and the Palm OS SDK are developed independently of the CodeWarrior tools, but PalmSource and Metrowerks do cooperate to make sure that they will work together.
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Ben Combee, CodeWarrior for Palm OS technical lead
Programming help at www.palmoswerks.com
uhmmmm...the Chinese don't like to pay for software licenses
How can anyone consider this country a desirable market?
I guess if only 1% of Chinamen pay for their licenses it can be considered a major market since there are more than a billion of them.
RE: uhmmmm...the Chinese don't like to pay for software lice
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