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Check out the Hi-res pic...better stylus?!?!
Hooray!
I love my NR70V...but I HATE the stylus.
One last little point...I don't like the IR port on the side...just seems un-natural.
RE: WHOA!!!
You forgot to mention that this device turns into a SUV when closed!!!!
Sony PDA with WiFi and Bluetooth
More and more interesting Bluetooth Products become available.....
Sony PDA with WiFi and Bluetooth
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=PALM&read=48171
HP/Compaq PPC 5450 with WiFi and Bluetooth
http://vnunet.com/Products/Hardware/1136825
Intermec 700 Color Windows Powered Pocket PC 2002 with WiFi and BlueTooth technologies (and WAN) http://www.pocketpccity.com/articles/2002/5/2002-5-20-Intermec-Introduces-Rugged.html
DELL Handheld with integrated Bluetooth and Wi-Fi (COMING):
"In fall 2003, Dell will offer a model with integrated Bluetooth and Wi-Fi with a hardware-software switch between the two, said Macon" (Dell).
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,106644,00.asp
New Apple Notebooks with built-in Bluetooth and 802.11g: Bluetooth lets you take advantage of GPRS connectivity to check your email from anywhere — a benefit that comes in handy on those occasions when a 802.11 wireless hotspot isn’t available.
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=PALM&read=48011
Bluetooth and (not Versus) Wi-Fi (802.11)
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BTOOTH&read=489
BLUETOOTH OR WIFI? HOW ABOUT BOTH
http://hoovnews.hoovers.com/fp.asp?layout=printnews&doc_id=NR200210301180.3_76b200168d909d0a
802.11/WiFi is great for NETWORKING. But people also think 802.11/WiFi is the one-size-fits-all wireless technology. IT ISN'T......some thoughts:
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=BTOOTH&read=529
Sound ID Introduces the First Bluetooth Wireless Hands-Free Mobile Phone Earpiece with Personalized Digital Sound
http://www.brighthand.com/article/Sound_ID
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
RE: WHOA!!!
RE: WHOA!!!
Sony using Palm Bluetooth Software
Mobile computers
Bluetooth identifier : B00904
Created Date : 2003-01-10
Spec version : 1.1
PRD version : 1.0
Product ID : HCCBTH1
Software Version : V1.0.0
Hardware Version : V1.0.0
Qualified Product Notice : 12600568-QPN-rev_0.0.pdf
Compliant Portion : 12600568-CPD-rev_0.0.pdf
Qualified profile :
- OPP-Server
- LAN-DT
- Serial-DevA
- OBEX
- BIP-RemCam
- OPP-Client
- DUN-DT
- GAP
- Serial-DevB
- BIP-ImagePush
Interop Devices : - -
Product Type : PROD
List Date : 2003-01-10
Product Contact Person : Takayuki Misawa
Email : misawa@hcc.sony.co.jp
Phone : +81-3-6409-3613
Company URL : http://
BQB : Meiranke , Ralf
Integrated Pre-tested Components
-B00497 Infostick (Sony Corporation)
-B00352 Bluetooth Stack (*Palm, Inc)
-B00586 BlueModule type5 (Murata Manufacturing Ltd)
*The Palm Bluetooth Stack is based on XTNDAccess Blue SDK of Extended Systems. Palm has tested there Bluetooth Software (*2 releases; see link below) very extensive before integrating it into there devices imho. I was hoping that Palm would add all (or most of ) the new Bluetooth Profiles (see http://www.bluetooth.org) that have been add to the Bluetooth Standard. But Palm hasn't used all the new profiles Extended Systems Inc. is offering in there updated Bluetooth Embedded Software stack (Bluetooth Qualification can take some time). There XTNDAccess Blue SDK features the most complete support for user profiles in the industry including Personal Area Networking (PAN), Hands-Free, and Hardcopy Cable Replacement.
There first Qualified Palm Bluetooth Stack Release tells us "This software is itself based upon the qualified ?XTNDAccess Blue SDK? from Extended Systems."
*http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=PALM&read=40868
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=4175
Sony Bluetooth Qualified Products
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
High Res Pic.
click on the thumbnail to get a 3.2 meg high resolution picture of it.
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RE: High Res Pic.
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Price?
Yowza.
This is no longer a PDA. Sony is definitely heading into the All-in-one device market.
No way anyone can whine about how Palm devices should just be for fast and easy PIM retrieval.
Each Sony device is getting further away from that!
not that i mind. I'm all aout having a mini laptop in my pocket. Gimme instant bootup like our PDAs are now, but give me complete power!
Now if only Sony would make a landscape pda with twist screen for portrait mode a la Zaurus C700, i'd be extremely happy.
Oh, and make the CF slot normal for christ sake. I payed $100+ for my Symbol CF wifi card. I'm not gonna buy Sony's just to work on one pda.
RE: Price?
It's $800, well above and beyond average Joe's wallet, yet the price is justified when compared to the NX70v. 2 MP camera, Bluetooth, flash, and a slew of other features like native desktop files make this thing still get you good bang or your buck, still taking into consideration just how much that "buck" really is.
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RE: Price?
Three things terrify me about this unit:
1. The price
2. Non-standard CF slot
3. Same meager amount of ram as the every other Palm device, OS 5 and earlier
Since the details aren't finalized yet, I can also theorize that the maximum MemStick capacity of 128 mb will really start to become a burden with all of those 1600*1200 images sharing vieing for room with the applications also on the MS.
With all of those caveats out of the way, it looks to be a knockout all-in-one type device. You can toss it into a bag with a travel charger and a few MSticks and really be totally set to do anything on a trip. For some reason, the tv-out on the cradle really seems intriguing to me. But that *price*! Any PDA is gonna be a hard sell to me when I can have a laptop that I can kick back and watch dvds on and burn CDs with for the same money...
RE: Price?
RE: Price?
I agree with the above limitations of this device, but this thing is still a gem of a device!! If sony opens up that CF slot and starts introducing MSpro, Then I'll shut up for good... at least for a while...
The 2003 National Championship WAS ROBBED!!! Terry Porter, you suck you freakin REF! OSU STOLE the Chanpionship, period!!
Memory Stick Pro
This link shows that the Memory Stick Pro is inevitable!
RE: Price?
I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. We're in space.
RE: Price?
>a knockout all-in-one type device. You can toss it into
>a bag with a travel charger and a few MSticks and really
>be totally set to do anything on a trip.
No way I'm just gonna casually throw something this expensive and nice into a bag :D
RE: Price?
>device, OS 5 and earlier
Actually, I believe the new Garmin PDA/GPS has
32MB RAM. It also has the first non-Sony
implementation of Hi-Res+.
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Handspring should be envious
My family recently purchased a 1.6ghz HP Laptop from Best Buy with a 20gb hard drive, 14.1 inch screen, 64mb video card, etc. for $749...
Of course, this is only the first Sony release in the year. God help us to see what the next 10 Sony releases will be over the next year...
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RE: Handspring should be envious
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RE: Handspring should be envious
The thickness of the device?
How the device makes you confused on what it actually is...is it a Palm device? No, it's a camera. Wait, no, it's an internet device. WHAT IS IT!?
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Cost with accessories.
The PR says $80 for a spare battery pack.
One thing I'm wondering is how expensive the larger capacity Memory Sticks will be. (Hopefully in line with other removable memory.) With that quality of camera image, most owners are going to want to budget for that :)
Add the WiFi card and the total cost is really getting up there...
For those that can afford it, it's a hell of an impressive device!
RE: Handspring should be envious
This runs PalmOS 5.0 which means it is not a DragonBall processor @ 33mhz. It runs an ARM processor above 100 megahertz. Palm Tungsten is 150mhz. Different core, Different OS, new camera .. how can you POSSIBLY compare the two? I guess a Ford F150 is just like a Ford Taurus with a different back huh?
RE: Handspring should be envious
I think you misinrtepreted NX as NR.
Alan
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RE: Handspring should be envious
release?
when is is man!!!(think ren and stimpy)
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RE: release?
- Dan
Form apparently doesn't follow function at Sony HQ
Sony, REDUCE THE SIZE, unless you're trying to be some sort of tiny sized tablet pc.
RE: Form apparently doesn't follow function at Sony HQ
I don't need an all-in-one monster, I need a PDA with good features, form, and battery life. The T615c is great in this respect.
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RE: Form apparently doesn't follow function at Sony HQ
RE: Form apparently doesn't follow function at Sony HQ
RE: Form apparently doesn't follow function at Sony HQ
The 2003 National Championship WAS ROBBED!!! Terry Porter, you suck you freakin REF! OSU STOLE the Chanpionship, period!!
RE: Form apparently doesn't follow function at Sony HQ
Smaller Size T please
SONY, cool but don't forget the larger market
Of course, you're right. Methinks SONY is just showing off their top of the line first. This is not what most people want in a PDA.
1. Great battery life or, if that's not possible in a T-series, something like this removable battery would be acceptable.
2. An XT keyboard peripheral would be nice.
3. True landscape format should be done (like Handera)
4. Easy Wireless and POTS connectivity peripheral options (for US where bluetooth is still in early stages)
5. Cameras, MP3 players, TV and FM tuners, etc, can be added as peripherals but let's have a top of the line device in a small form factor.
Thanks, Robrecht
RE: Form apparently doesn't follow function at Sony HQ
-blue9
(eagerly awaiting a Txxx os5 clie device, w/ bluetooth!!)
RE: Form apparently doesn't follow function at Sony HQ
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Microsoft is the root of all evil.
Right, Bill?
Great!
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RE: Great!
> recognition. I want to see such model for
> Palm OS too!
But you can already have that, for free!
http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=2474
RE: Great!
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Microsoft is the root of all evil.
Right, Bill?
RE: Great!
RE: Great!
No digiscan nor soft modem?
Hmmm....I´m beggining to think that maybe that little camera program wich uses the light reflected on the screen -a very complex and scientific process- it´s not as accurate as well...
RE: Great!
Correction
No innovation from Sony here.
The thing does pack a wallop, though.
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Bluetooth Question
RE: Bluetooth Question
i think they should have an integrated wifi chip into this pricey unit!
RE: Bluetooth Question
http://news.sel.sony.com/pressrelease/3166
Bluetooth is integrated, definitely :)
(Wonder if they'll finally start adding it to their NA laptops?)
- Dan
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Hmmm...
But anyway, I was spending my 14day time on vacation with Palm m505 and it was working fine without charching. It was really beatifull :)
But will Sony last more than 5 days? It says 10 days with 30min per day but it is not possibile. I Thnik.
Also its size is too large. I own tungsten now and its small but a little bit heavy. Anyway it fits in my pocket and thats the way it must be.
you forgot ...
Is it even usable with the backlight off?
RE: Hmmm...
Is it even usable with the backlight off?"
This is a moot point. The manual for the NR70 and NX70 also says the unit has a 3 hour life w/o backlight. My NX lasts much longer than 3 hours with the backlight on.
RE: Hmmm...
Because the Clies use a transreflective screen, they actually look better outdoors. While in direct sunlight you will not be able to notice the difference between teh backlight being on or off. I think you may be thinking of a LCD such as in the prism, which is only visible because of the light that each pixel puts out. In direct sunlight, the sun drowns out the light from the pixels and the screen looks blank. This is why TFT screens are better, and are used in almost all high-end color units now.
It's "Ocell" for short.
CF smearing...
I understand that they are trying to push the Memory Stick, and that in their machine the CF slot is (probably) crippled, but that could induce some user to believe that the CF slot in other machines can ONLY be used for WiFi...
I don't know if I have understood what I have written... B-)))
RE: CF smearing...
The very first Digital Mavica, back in '95 or so, used PCMCIA flash cards for storage and had a scsi interface. Then their next digicams had fixed internal memory. A generation or two later, the Memory Stick was launched.
Even things like photo printers etc have always had either a PCMCIA slot (so you could use whatever flash format you wanted with an adaptor) or dual MS/PCMCIA slots, so if you were a CF fan, it was only "indirectly" supported by Sony and not via a dedicated CF slot on the unit.
I am honestly surprised to see a CF slot at all (crippled or not) on any Clie--I'd have assumed Sony would whip up some proprietary format and/or use a dual Memory Stick configuration. With the NZ90, I am really stunned to see the CF slot still there.
Has anyone see the new Konica digical camera line, by the way? Both MS and SD slots side by side in the same camera, and you even have both in the camera at the same time and switch from one to the other when your first card fills up. Nice!
RE: CF smearing...
Thanks, Robrecht
RE: CF smearing...
Now, on one hand... there shouldnt be a CF slot at all. For the $$$ wifi should be builtin on the device, much like on the HP 5440 which has bluetooth and WiFi builtin. Sony just put it in as a card so they could get an extra $150 a unit for people buying their overpriced wifi CF card.
On the other hand, since theres a CF slot... they should damn well make it usable. The simplest driver is for memory cards... and the one driver would likely enable everything from flash cards to microdrives. But of course that would cut into sonys Memory Stick business... and thats not a good thing. So what else could the slot be used for? WiFi... No! sony only wants their card to work... Bluetooth?... no need its builtin on the device... a Camera? got that too... a GPS would be a possible option... but like all the other options they would need a driver specific to that CF card most likely... and since sony wont release specs on the slot its not likely to happen.
So the CF slot on the NX and NZ series is either going to be used for the their overpriced wifi card... or its going to remain empty. So what type of cover does it have? or is it one of those stupid plastic inserts.
Now heres a thought... would actually be interested in this... how about putting an extra battery in the CF slot. That would be useful.
From my view as a current NR user.
1. Battery life should be better. On both NR and NX series. Removable may be a way to add bigger battery as well as multiple batteries, but that would make it even bigger (as in Axim)
2. The price is unfanthomable.
3. The size and weight of NR/NX were already marginal. This is almost certainly too big for most.
4. The file system is not going to cut it unless the new Picsel technology really does what it promises for files both on the Clie and on the memory stick.
5. They didn't build in the WiFi for $800? They expect you to pay another $150 for it, when they could have included in for $40? And no standard drivers for CF cards to go in that slot if you don't want the WiFi? Dumb. Just dumb.
6. I like the flash, but if they don't have real optical zoom and a way to add lenses, it is still not a real camera. I love having a neat little camera handy right in my Clie all the time, but it is what it is. It is OK for web pictures, but that is all. Unless it has 4 megapixels, flash, optical zoom, and full speed video capture with sound, it won't replace a real camera. As long as it doesn't the features of the NR/NX were fine.
I like the fact that they are keeping Palm OS. The original rumors about this model said the were developing their own. This means that accessories will keep coming for my NR.
RE: From my view as a current NR user.
http://www.sonystyle.com/intershoproot/eCS/Store/en/imagesProducts/180x180/PEGAUC90.jpg
the cradle looks like the connectors are at the upper part at the back of the unit coz they placed the CF card slot on the bottom instead of the usb connectors.... weird
RE: Cradle...
Sonystyle mentions that the cradle folds for easy travel. This implies that the connector is midway up the back of the unit, since a simple cable is the first travel option.
So my rumor for the day is:
Not only is the connector midway up on the back of the unit, it has no "clip things" <-- technical term, to hold a sync cable fast.
Mark
RE: From my view as a current NR user.
First, people complain about the NR70v and how its camera wasn't 640x480 and was only 320x240. Then they went with 640x480 in the NX70v, and they started complaining about how it wasn't a MP. Now, THEY'RE UP TO 2 MP AND PEOPLE ARE STILL COMPLAINING! You can view the pictures it takes on full screen 1600x1200 with no pixelating!!!
It never ceases to amaze me...
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NZ90 is Sony's answer to Apple's Video-iPod!!
The 2003 National Championship WAS ROBBED!!! Terry Porter, you suck you freakin REF! OSU STOLE the Chanpionship, period!!
Snortsnort!---this thing is RIDICULOUS
Many of you folks must just be news hungry.
RE: Snortsnort!---this thing is RIDICULOUS
Uh, I've got a Zoomer here and you're not only over-reacting (IMNSHO), but also incorrect:
Zoomer: 4.2" x 6.9" x 1.0" 15.5 oz.
NZ90 : 3.0" x 5.6" x 0.9" 10.2 oz.
Also the original Palm Computing team worked on the PIM apps for the Zoomer, but it is plain wrong to call it the 'original palm unit'.
Heh, and I'm guessing that this unit isn't exactly aimed at "Joe SixPack". This, Budd, is not for you!
- Dan
RE: Snortsnort!---this thing is RIDICULOUS
RE: Snortsnort!---this thing is RIDICULOUS
But when I see misinformation (like from FUDD, above) sometimes I have to jump in...
- D
RE: Snortsnort!---this thing is RIDICULOUS
The operative point in my comment was that this is a REALLY BIG device. And I think it's silly. You may want to start USING the things rather than just collecting them--does wonders for your perspective.
old and new
Remember that the Zoomer was essentially "designed by committee" (with Casio, Radio Shack and the GEOS people), and that Hawkins and Co. were very disillusioned at the resulting brick. It is what led Palm Computing to develop the "original palm", the pilot!
The misinformation I refer to is your statement "It is actually bigger and heavery (sic) than the 'Zoomer'".
The operative point in my comment was that this is a REALLY BIG device. And I think it's silly.
Yes, aside from the ruggedized SPT-17xx and -18xx devices from Symbol, it's the biggest 'Palm' yet. But even if the NZ90 is not the device for you and others, there are people who will find this to be the best device for their needs. The broad diversity of devices is one of the great things about this platform!
You may want to start USING the things rather than just collecting them--does wonders for your perspective.
LOL - you have NO idea how dependant I am on these things.....
Keeping the faith, but...
Perhap the Wireless slot will continue to differentiate the N Series from the T Series. Sony does need to have a T series model that competes directly on the Tungston specs and form factor!
I'll keep my N701C until Sony ships an updated T series or I just give up (June/July 03).
Mark
Add SilverScreen III and get ready to rock
RE: Add SilverScreen III and get ready to rock
try zlauncher, megalauncher, or launcherx...
Wow
RE: Wow
RE: Wow
RE: Wow
How do you figure that you are not missing a faster processor? The NZ and the last N-series - the NX - both use 200mhz ARM processors - yr NR only has a 66Mhz dragonball.
Mike Cane... First of my prediction came true...
This thing sucks!
Aren't you listening to your customers! Obviously Sony is going to go out of business unless they start giving their customers what they want!
:)
RE: This thing sucks!
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What is SONY doing? What do we want?
What do most of us want from SONY? For lack of a better starting place, let’s start with me:
1. Small form factor with a great high res, soft graffiti, landscapable screen for large photos of our families, etc, that don’t need to be cropped or resized and for spreadsheets. SONY has the screen but not the landscapable spreadsheets that Handera has had for almost 2 years.
2. Great battery life, or at least removable batteries like every cell phone. SONY may be moving in the right direction here.
3. Both of the above suggest that cameras, mp3, TV and FM tuners, DVD players, and kitchen sinks (even keyboards and cell phones) be available peripherals.
4. Easy and small wireless and POTS connectivity peripheral options. Integrated bluetooth is a must for Europe and elsewhere but still almost useless for much of the US. My best vacation spots may never have cell coverage. I do want the bluetooth but not till Verizon has a cool bluetooth phone.
5. An XT-style keyboard peripheral would be nice. True, integrated thumboards will sell a lot of units to new buyers but many, many long-time PDA users are fine with graffiti for most stuff
6. Memory Stick memory backward compatibility if only because it is the right thing to do. I hope SONY’s announcement tomorrow about larger capacity and faster Memory is not a format ender blunder. Completely acceptable would be newer, larger, faster Memory Sticks where the only lack of backward compatibility concerned the faster transfer rates and new I/O peripherals that require or at least benefit from the faster speeds.
Thanks, Robrecht
RE: What is SONY doing? What do we want?
The form factor is ridiculous. Though I really like the exchangable battery. I always wonder what happen to the other internal battery over say 2 years of use. How do we ever change it, who change it these days, can you do it yourself and what the cost would be.
RE: What is SONY doing? What do we want?
Also, if SONY is not going to develop their dual MS slot concept PDA, the newer, faster I/O peripherals need to have built in memory.
Thanks, Robrecht
RE: What is SONY doing? What do we want?
It's alive! It's aaalive!
BTW, any rumors on a Verizon bluetooth phone?
In the Spirit of Umoja,
Ronin
New style! I mean old
Features and price set aside. The thing I like most of this PDA is the style and color.
Yes! Finally a device going back to the traditional black color and square keys like it should be..
I'm so tired of all kinds of electronic devices being nothing but gawdy silver plastic fashion accessories.
I think electronics should look like the tools that they are and not jewlery.
Hopefully other companies will folow Sony and return to normal looking gizmos ;)
l8tr
RE: New style! I mean old
Sorry for dumb question
Thanks
RE: Sorry for dumb question
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Just what Sony needed!!!
Size and cost.
Just think: An $800 PDA that you can't carry in your pocket... I think there's another name for that... Oh yeah, a laptop.
Product Tour and "Demo"
They have a product tour of the NZ90 and a "demo" of the handheld.
(2megapixels? This this is as powerful as my Nikon Coolpix 950!)
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Is this the end of the Clamshell?
As many others have posted, this is getting away from the functionality of a PDA.
I would love to see the T series continue into OS5, with 32Mb onboard RAM & 8Mb FlashROM.
Who really needs a camera anyway (I am a NR70v owner).
RE: Is this the end of the Clamshell?
I don't think you understand the gravity of the situation. We're in space.
HOLY GRAIL of PDA's
This thing is amazing! Folks...it doesn't get any better than this....well not for a while anyway.
Bye bye Handspring, nice knowing ya. Can anyone even touch Sony? Why get a smartphone when a bluetooth phne will do.This is a bit pricey for me but the 2 mega pixel camera and built in Bluetooth make up the difference. My only wish is for it to have more ram.
Looks like the plastic is creaping out of the wallet for this one. Time to start saving those pennies...
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Now where was that NX70v receipt and BB warranty information? (J/K) ;)
Great job!
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