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RE: Plus Memory
The only company I know, that will release "dual-use" SD-Cards in the near future is Toshiba. But the timetable seems to have shifted from summer to end of this year.
TD
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Worth waiting for?
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m100 ==> m500 ==> T|T
RE: Worth waiting for?
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m100 ==> m500 ==> T|T
RE: Worth waiting for?
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RE: Worth waiting for?
It's on their web site: they say 300mA !!!
As the TT battery has 900mAh, and since the TT already sucks 150mA, this should leave 2 hours to play with your WiFi palm ! Great ! (WiFi is definitly not for Palms... :(
RE: Worth waiting for?
Again this gets to the root of the SD form factor vs. CF. The portion that fits in the slot is so small that it leaves more of the device to fit externally. There's nothing magical about SD and it's ability to have micro-electronics crammed into it.
Compare Margi's Presenter-to-go in CF, SD, and MS versions. The CF version is the smallest by far, and doesn't even leave that much externally beyond the connector.
Again with WiFi, the typical size of Symbol, Intel, Sony, Socket (all the same rebadged card) leaves only a small portion of the card externally. The Socket CF bluetooth card isn't any smaller than the CF WiFi card.
Less so even than the Palm/Toshiba BlueTooth card (more area perhaps but less protrusion).
The external portion of CF cards is wide but narrow and thus not a breakage issue. SD accessories are narrow and thus the external portion is larger and sticks out farther. Indeed one is right to consider the leverage that can be applied to the point of breakage.
As for power, again, this depends on the card. There are SD Bluetooth cards including Palm branded ones that draw 150mA during transmit. And there are low power CF WiFi cards. The low power cards can, as mine does, idle at 11mA, and transfer at 150mA-170mA. Without power saving enabled, yes the cards can consume twice that.
But to say that WiFi isn't for PalmOS devices is to promote myth.
TrgPro's running on AA's have used the Symbol card, and one company was even renting them out.
HandEra 330 owners have reported 6 hours of continuous ping with the Symbol CF WiFi card.
It will be good to have the Tungsten C out with it built in to finally put this anti-WiFi bashing to bed.
With WiFi and even WiFi + BlueTooth built in to PocketPC models such as the Toshiba e7xx line and the Compaq H54xx line, surely the more efficient PalmOS will only excel at this in comparison.
It be nice to see less naysaying here. Perhaps half the reason our PalmOS hardware (including the Tungsten T) isn't as capable yet as PocketPC hardware is the internal self-doubting. It's been done on other platforms, and less well that PalmOS do it. So let's get doing it, and quit giving portions of the marketplace away uncontested to PocketPC and Zaurus/Linux. There's some reasons we don't have that last 30%, and one of them is PalmOS licencess won't make comparable hardware, and get the expansion options sorted out. I mean come on, with Handera in limbo, Handspring having dropped Springboard, and Palm and Sony trying to find their way with the comparatively immature SD and MS, in many ways we're slipping back into 1999.
As for WiFi, before saying it's not for PalmOS, ask a happy HandEra owner about WiFi and PalmOS. Or any of the Developers who took one of the free loaners (HandEra 330 and Symbol WiFi card) for a spin at the last PalmSource developers conference.
Wi-Fi SD Cards Delayed Until Mid-Year
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C16C21604
Palm™ Bluetooth™ Card software for the Palm Tungsten™ W (OS 4.1)
http://www.palm.com/support/downloads/tungstenwBT.html
http://www.palm.com/support/downloads/tungstenwBT_legal.html
Sony has released the Mobile Connection Wizard, a desktop application that helps users to configure wireless settings for their Clie handheld. To connect to a Bluetooth-enabled phone, users just need to specify their wireless carrier and phone model in the desktop app then complete the device pairing through a Mobile Manager application on the handheld. Setting up a Wi-Fi connection is equally simple. The Mobile Manager also makes it easy to switch between Bluetooth and Wi-Fi wireless connections.
http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/clie/conwiz/softupdates/index.html
Incisor Bluetooth NewsLetter (Official BT Newsletter)
http://www.click.co.uk/inc53mar03.pdf
http://www.click.co.uk/incisor.htm (older editions)
"There are 2 kind of people my friend....those with wires and those without"
Color and size
One thing the Memory Stick has over the Secure Digital card is the support the extra length of the card gives to bulky attachments hanging out the top of a PDA. Man, that SD WiFi card looks like it could snap in two.
Does the SD Blue tooth fit entirely into the device? It appears shorter than the Toshiba/Palm model. If so, that's the card for me!
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Fammy
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Mario Masitti
http://community.webshots.com/user/mariowc
RE: Color and size
Huh? The SD card is longer than the Memory Stick.
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Fammy
RE: Color and size
Get your facts right.
Katunka----also known as slim devil
RE: Color and size
Which it is the case - the SD ones are flimsy and stick out way to far and I went through TWO of those on my m500.
My MS Bluetooth card is very sturdy.
Though I'd bet this one sticks out too - the design of the Sony Bluetooth MS is misleading in that it sticks out more than you think it would just by looking at it.
The extra length in memory stick is definately an advantage in this area (and should also play a big factor in the untimate capcity of both media).
Garmin iQue Compatible?
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currently using Palm m125 and waiting for Garmin iQue.
RE: Garmin iQue Compatible?
Memory Stick Wifi for OS 5 and above only??
RE: Memory Stick Wifi for OS 5 and above only??
OS5 CLIEs come out, it'll be great!
First OS 5 non-clamshell is out now...
Dual slots?
Dave Guenthner
http://www.palmrant.com
RE: Dual slots?
RE: Dual slots?
Weren't we suppsoed to have this already?
We had this:
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=4836
And this:
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=4343
The SanDisk one was supposed to be out in March. We've got one more day for it. Will it be here?
RE: Weren't we suppsoed to have this already?
http://www.brighthand.com/article/Wi-Fi_SD_Cards_Delayed_Until_Mid-Year
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