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RE: Wonderful
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if sony doesn't release something with os5 in sj form factor I'll go with tungsten C .. it's really great pda ..
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Right you are. I don't think anyone would even care unless the music in stereo was important. However, I saw Palm's marketing slant on this early on... they would rather have a thousand corporate users with the purchasing department's blessing, than a dozen students walking down the street with headphones in their Palm. But hey, at least we have a choice. If stereo is that important, get the T|T, Z71, or any of the half dozen+ Sonys with stereo, or go PPC.
There are lots of devices that will work as players, but when it comes to a combination of relative RAM, CPU speed, and WiFi battery life, the T|C is the ONLY "player" :)
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And a lot of companies DO let you listen to music at work - I have a large portable stereo in my office. During the day I keep it low, with the consent of those around me, before/after hours I can crank it up and get more coding done. ;-)
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if sony doesn't release something with os5 in sj form factor I'll go with tungsten C .. it's really great pda"
Um, the Ipaq 5455 has a stereo jack with built in microphone capabilities. It is also VoIP compatable so your arguement is without merit.
Limiting the T/C to a mono jack is just, well, stupid
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"Um, the Ipaq 5455 has a stereo jack with built in microphone capabilities."
True, but it uses a standard stereo (output only, I believe) 3.5mm jack, while the T|C uses a 2.5mm two-way mono jack.
That makes the T|C a better buy, because you can just plug a headset directly into it for VoIP, rather than having to use headphones and a built-in microphone.
'course, my information may be a bit shady on the 5455 specs - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. :-)
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PDAs have always had difficulty being taken seriously by corporate IT departments and I think Palm is smart to create a device that will break that stereotype. If an individual wants MP3 capability there are plenty of devices to choose from...but I suspect that few, if any, IT purchasing managers really give a rip. If your selling PDAs who would you rather have, a bunch of individuals who are going to buy one PDA at a time, or the person who places an order for 1000 at a time?
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Same with the one in the option module for the Toshiba e750. 4 conductors: Left, Right, In, Ground.
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Please. Palm needs to stop trying to outguess what we're going to do with the device (for want of 2cent components, and leave it as an extensible platform. Let the users and the developers decide what can be done with it.
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I suppose one could ask HandEra that...
Still I'd love to float your theory on those corporate purchasers buying pocketPC's at the moment, and give them the choice of a PocketPC that has mic in, mono out, or mic in stereo out. The choice between one with and without a removable Lion battery. One with and one without an additional DC port. One with and one without, dual slots. One with and one without multi-function charging, alarm LED.
The tungsten-C sits at the top of the heap in the PalmOS camp because there is no alternative.
Find a way to boot PalmOS5 on a PocketPC, and see what happens to Palm Tungsten sales.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled belief that our PalmOS platform still makes better hardware (for the corporate set)...
RE: Wonderful
-Davy Fields
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Palm_OS_5/
Corporate Acceptance
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=5327
I am also very interested in the adoption and development of various PDA optional packages for the J2ME Platform by Palm...
http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/java/
http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=75
Enhancing the Palms Java Support will be very attractive to many existing Corporate Development teams that are currently working on J2EE solutions.
Palm will definitely be a serious force to deal with! All three efforts are really great moves for Palm's future as far as being accepted as a Corporate standard.
Other shoe has fallen
RE: Other shoe has fallen
There's been 4 or more VoIP apps out for PocketPC's for quite some time.
Don't get me wrong, I'm still using a Tungsten-C, but I've also used the HandEra 330 and PocketPC's, and it's quite easy to miss little things you've become used to like:
-a DC port to provide power and keep the battery topped up while it's on a keyboard, or connected to GPS.
-An LED that displays useful charging information, not just that I've plugged it in (I *know* when it's plugged in, because I was the one who plugged it in..., although maybe it's there to work around the way the T-C wobbles back and forth on the cradle without a solid connection)
-A built-in mic so that you don't have to fish around in your goody bag to find your headset to make a voice note.
-Why limit it to mono? You don't need a separate ground for input and output, there are four conductors on the jack, that's enough for Ground, Left out, Right out, In.
VoIP and Bluetooth
http://test.bloophone.com/Products.asp
This being the case, wouldn't VoIP be just as likely to show up on the T|T as it is on the T|C? And the T|T has a _stereo_ headphone/microphone jack as well as a built in speaker and mictrophone.
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