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RE: I hope they will leave Bejeweled aside this time
water's a lot cooler than fire.
What did you nominate?
What did you guys pick? Especially for the games category?
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Roman
Clie NX60 - Massman82@PDArcade.com
RE: What did you nominate?
Productivity: VersaMail
Games: MagicWorld
Multimedia: MMPlayer
Wireless: WebPro
Generic Casio > Psion 5/StarTac > Vx > m505 > Sony N770C > Sony T625C/Ericsson T39m > Sony NR70V > Toshiba e310 > Tungsten T/Ericsson T68m > HP h2210 > Tungsten T3/Ericsson T610
Here is mine
Popularity - ZLauncher
Benefits - Receiveit
Ease of Use - Receiveit
Support - Receiveit
Well, I am all for Receiveit at this time since this little piece of software gives me a tremendous benefit.
RE: Here is mine
DateBK5
VersaMail
Palm Reader
oh year, and the Unilinear Parachute :)
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RE: Here is mine
that's cruel...
JLM!
WHERE IS PALMOS 6?
RE: WHERE IS PALMOS 6?
RE: WHERE IS PALMOS 6?
When the devices are ready, you'll hear more than you want to about OS6!
RE: WHERE IS PALMOS 6?
"What happens on the 2nd of february?"
On February 2nd, the groundhog comes out of his ground. If he sees his shadow, we are in for six more weeks of winter (or, in the case of Sweden, 6 more months ;)
RE: WHERE IS PALMOS 6?
You can go ahead and look at the schedule of talks at http://palmsource.confreg.com/schedule/keynotes/. This should give you an idea of the scope of changes with the new operating system. Just looking at the topics and the descriptions of the talks will tell a lot about the new OS.
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Ben Combee, CodeWarrior for Palm OS technical lead
Programming help at www.palmoswerks.com
RE: WHERE IS PALMOS 6?
to ben combee: thanks for the link - it was quite interesting! two more questions:
do you know maybe how much of beos-technology is integrated into the palmos 6? palm bought beos and its technology, and a number of their engineers were transfered to their os-division. however, i heard that it would take some time before beos-technologies would be integrated into future palmos-versions. judging by the information provided by palmsource it seems that palmos 6 will have impressive multimedia and multitasking capabilities - typical beos features. but is palmos 6 based on beos-technology or is it "just" an os created by some ex-beos-employees? or is it even worse, an palmos5 with added features?
in retrospect, what was the purpose of the palmos5? it was introduced less than 18 months ago. its evolution and development has been rather limited. and now it looks like it is being phased out. OK, palmos5 was needed because of the evident limitations with os4. but it seems more like they created a slightly modified version of os4 for the ARM-processor and called it palmos5. it seems as if wasn't a longterm-project from the start. what is your view on the issue?
RE: WHERE IS PALMOS 6?
Second, from what I've seen, OS 5 was built to accomplish two goals:
1) Enable Palm OS licensees to ship ARM-based hardware
2) Provide a major speed improvement for the Palm OS platform
It did both of those well.
Since OS 6 is such a major change, I think it was a wise move on PalmSource's part to split the ARM transition into two, less risky parts, and the popularity of OS 5 devices has shown that to be a smart strategy.
Finally, I can't talk about OS 6 yet. Sorry.
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Ben Combee, CodeWarrior for Palm OS technical lead
Programming help at www.palmoswerks.com
RE: WHERE IS PALMOS 6?
or in other word: we are going to hear "80%" compatibility BS again, which roughly translate to 'everything you pay money and deemed important for is broken'. 100% of apps you wish would work is in that 20%.
RE: WHERE IS PALMOS 6?
How many apps were *you* able to transfer from Palm-Size PC to the latest PPCs?
There's stuff from *years* ago that will *still* run on PalmOS 5!
RE: WHERE IS PALMOS 6?
all sh/mips has arm version too. What's more the number of apps from that period is so small it really isn't that bad. Now if MS pulls that trick again, there will be riot on the street.
Palm compatibility? how about checking 4.1, treo600, clie, hi-res, hi-res+... gaw.. It's a jungle out there.
Treo 600 compatibility is particularly bad. They might as well split the platform.
RE: WHERE the helllllllllllllllllllllll IS PALMOS 6????????
all sh/mips has arm version too. What's more the number of apps from that period is so small it really isn't that bad. Now if MS pulls that trick again, there will be riot on the street.
Palm compatibility? how about checking 4.1, treo600, clie, hi-res, hi-res+... gaw.. It's a jungle out there.
Treo 600 compatibility is particularly bad. They might as well split the platform.
Way to bust his chops, Ska! You go girl!
It's just too big.
RE: WHERE IS PALMOS 6?
In the FINALLY Category
TealPaint: Finally a paint program that at least matches the best OS4 paintware! This program was announced 18 months ago for delivery over a year ago! Well, it is here now and for all the waiting it does not support truetype, won't load even JPEGs from a memory stick, and does little more than bring TealPaint 4.0 to hires. Well, at least it is here, and with the desktop conduit can do an awful lot for a $20 PDA program running on even very basic ARM hardware.
The Virtual Grafitti standard portrait models!: Both Palm and Sony will be shipping this Spring cool HVGA models with zippy ARMs, Lots of RAM, and cameras. There is a LOT of evidence of a new T4, TE2, TH55, but I also expect an updated Zire 71 and new NX and UX series models either as late OS 5 or early OS 6 models FINALLY!
OS 6: I am not so sold on the need for multi-tasking, which is the big deal that OS 6 is supposed to deliver. I would like some standard graphics support. I would like TrueType support (I guess I will have to wait for February 2 to find out if these will really work as I'd like.) Standard and powerful development tools that can bring us software to truly match that of the other upstart handheld platform from that tiny company in Redmond.
RE: In the FINALLY Category
OS 6: I am not so sold on the need for multi-tasking, which is the big deal that OS 6 is supposed to deliver.Here are a couple that I've run across recently:
1) I track my upcoming bills using HanDBase and check them off when I pay them. I would like to enter them in Pocket Quicken at the same time. Right now I have to close one program and log onto the other...each time entering a PIN or Password. It'd be a lot easier if I could toggle back and forth using multi-tasking.
2) Similar situation to the above. I store software keys in Splash ID. Although you can copy the ID to the clipboard, sometimes the application that you are trying to register won't allow items to be pasted from the clipboard (most recently for me it was Palm Reader Pro). Being able to toggle (or if possible do a split screen) would save me from having to write the software key down on a piece of paper.
I imagine that people might have other examples such as the looking up of phone numbers, addresses, etc.
Scott
RE: In the FINALLY Category
ooo.. Now maybe someone can right a debugger that runs on your palm.. now that would be a useful app :D
RE: In the FINALLY Category
On PalmOS currently, I have to close my web browser and go to the other program with the information in it and then go back into my web browser, reload the page (data download) and the proceed to enter data.
If you use wireless, multi-tasking is vital. If you only do diray+a few games - who gives a stuff. But there are people out there who need multi-tasking.
The trick is to have it so that when you are only running an app + launcher (which wouldn't close) you don't notice the difference between that and the old OS5 if it was as optimised as OS6. IOW - don't let the overhead get noticed.
PPC stuffed it up (especially smartphone), hopefully POS used all that BeOS tech and got it right.
RE: In the FINALLY Category
RE: In the FINALLY Category
actually, most of what you said can be accomplished with the help of mcphling and some nice DAs :
Well, I have McPhling and I can switch back and forth between Pocket Quicken and Splash ID just fine, but I am still required to log into each program each time I switch over because leaving an app causes it to close. I want multi-tasking so I only have to enter my PIN once until I truly exit the program (i.e., multitask and switch between open apps). What are these DAs you mentioned?
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I hope they will leave Bejeweled aside this time
It looks sad that the Awards cannot or wont see another bunch of good apps/games to praise for innovations or inventive/creativity.