Comments on: AT&T Pixi Plus Due June 6th?
Engadget Mobile has it on good authority that the AT&T version of the Palm Pixi Plus will make its debut on June 6th. The nations first GSM Pixi Phone will allegedly come with a $49.99 price tag after the usual contracts and mail-in rebate.
If correct, the Pixi will join the AT&T lineup three weeks following the Pre. AT&T will be launching the Palm Pre Plus this Sunday.
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RE: a Pixi Poem by Samuel Minturn Peck
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RE: a Pixi Poem by Samuel Minturn Peck
Thanks. My children are too old for that. i thoughts perhaps you had shared a poem of some sort or even written your own.
Not what you think
Not what you thought
Memories are for the past
Thought is for the future
Why not write a poem
Why not play the fool
One life to live
One life to give
Enjoy
Thanks for your thoughts.
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RE: a Pixi Poem by Samuel Minturn Peck
Not a bot just a human trying to be human. Perhaps poetry is good for the sole.
Peace,
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RE: a Pixi Poem by Samuel Minturn Peck
Innovation is a choice and to some it is of value. The economy needs many solutions health care needs capital to pay for research. Where does that capital come from? Do taxes help pay for government research? Does a vibrant economy allow private enterprise to build new solutions and also invest in health care research? Where does the government get their taxes? Do people working in the private sector pay taxes which pays the salaries of the government?
Perhaps we have less jobs as a consequence of people thinking that innovation is not important, North American factories are not important. Some spend their life on important health care matters such times is to make people well and live longer. Now that people are living longer and healthier what could they do with time that is important too? Could e-motion offer more energy? One would hope that we have healthy people working to build the future.
Now that the heath care system in the USA is run by the government they will need taxes to help fund that industry and those taxes come from the private sector creating jobs ... important or not.
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RE: a Pixi Poem by Samuel Minturn Peck
http://www.androidcentral.com/square-brings-credit-card-payments-android
In short, I had always believed that the world involved magic: now I thought that perhaps it involved a magician.
- Chesterton
RE: a Pixi Poem by Samuel Minturn Peck
In short, I had always believed that the world involved magic: now I thought that perhaps it involved a magician.
- Chesterton
RE: a Pixi Poem by Samuel Minturn Peck
i have digital currency in my smartphone that i can not use because it is not legal tender unless outside the smartphone. A whole new infrastructure will need to be build to make digital currency legal. i have digitized some currency to show as an example what we-com virtual wallet currency thoughts would look like. i can transfer this currency into any device with Bluetooth and photo software. It is not very efficient or secure at the moment.
Thanks poetry is fun too.
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RE: a Pixi Poem by Samuel Minturn Peck
The we-com industry has tremendous opportunity and offer more for North America and like minded trade partners to do too.
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RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
Palm approached 16 companies!!! asking if they would like to dance. All while Jon "The Liar" Rubenstein was publicly claiming that Palm was not trying to sell itself.
Dell, Lenovo, Nokia, Apple, Microsoft, HTC, RIM, Cisco, ZTE, Motorola, Samsung, Asus, Google, Sony, Huawei, Acer...
5 stepped up to the dance floor.
Company A - offered $600 million cash
Company B - offered a stock-fo-stock deal
Company C - initially only wanted Palm's patents, then later offered Palm $800 million for patents + a non-exclusive webOS license
Company D - only wanted Palm's patents and dropped out early
Company E (HP) - won
Hmmmmm...
Company E = HP
Company D = Cisco
Company C = HTC
Company B = Dell
Company A = Nokia
You decide. The truth is out there...
FJH
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
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RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
>>>Company B also indicated that although a definitive agreement could be executed within a customary period, its proposed transaction would take at least several months longer to close than is customary.
That sounds like some kind of international hassle. HTC, Acer, Nokia, Asus, Lenovo. Or, hell, maybe even ACCESS!
It could also mean there was an underlying stalling tactic, a Machiavellian plot to undermine and destroy Palm.
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
Company C (HTC) appears to have either become emboldened by the lack of serious competition or else sobered up from a case of "auction fever" and thus lowered their bid. They must be kicking themselves right now. Had they consummated the deal they could have matched their class-leading hardware with an iPhone-rivalling proprietary OS and become a MAJOR cellphone manufacturer, rather than just an contract hardware supplier. They blew it. Big time.
$7/share is around a $1.5 billion investment to lead the next wave of computing. Coulda, woulda, shoulda... Boo hoo hoo!
FJH
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
hp overpaid because they were desperate.
as for webos being better then the iPhones os?
fjh - stop spiking your palm koolaid.
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
He didn't say *better*, he said *rival* -- and it is. It's better than Android.
HP better not screw this up or it'll be a case study for years in business schools.
HP has already shown some frikkin awareness. They just did a deal with Barnes & Noble to put their ePub eBook software on their hardware, cobranding it. I hope this will lead to a webOS port of the current iPhone-only software too.
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
hp overpaid because they were desperate.
as for webos being better then the iPhones os?
fjh - stop spiking your palm koolaid.
You need to stop channeling hengeem/SeldomVisitor and learn how to READ. You're so busy trying to bash Palm that you don't realize how preposterous your claims sound.
webOS has not even been out for a year - the Pre was released on Sprint on June 6, 2009. It was brought out by Palm on a shoestring budget, in a desperately accelerated time scchedule and was hobbled by second rate hardware, inadequate development, limited harwdare choices, limited carriers and horrible promotion. Claiming that webOS is an "os and platform that has failed in the marketplace" shows you either are of limited intelligence or else you're getting desperate in your attempts to spread FUD about the platform. Are you in fact hengeem/SeldomVisitor's latest alias? Hmmmmmm? That would explain a lot of your posts here.
$1.2 - 1.4 billion bought HP a turnkey smartphone and mobile device platform that is competitive with iPhone OS and is probably better than Android and Windows Mobile 7. Think about that. THINK. By writing a check for a trifling amount, HP immediately owns one of the two best smartphone/mobile OSes on the planet. They trump RIM, Nokia (Symbian), Google, and Microsoft with ZERO time/money/effort wasted developing an OS from scratch. No risk of wasting time developing an OS that ends up being killed off at the last minute. Are you familiar with what has happened with mobile OSes developed by Palm/PalmSource (Cobalt, Palm Linux), Access (Access Linux Platform), Motorola (Motorola Linux), Nokia (maemo, MeeGo), etc.? Billions of dollars and years of development by some pretty smart people, all resulting in NOTHING useful to show. HP was smart enough to recognize that they could easily have spent $1 billion and 3 years coming up with their own proprietary OS only to find that when it arrived in 2013 it was as useless as Cobalt and that the competition had long since become so entrenched that it would be essentially impossible for a new OS to catch on in the market. HP was SMART. Not desperate.
Buying webOS is the equivalent of HP slipping the doorman at the hottest club in town $50 to let them not only cut the line but also get the best seats in the house in the VIP section.
And I said webOS RIVALS iPhone OS. Since you apparently are not familiar with the term "rivals", that means it is competitive with iPhone OS. As far as to which is "better", that's probably like asking if Pepsi is "better" than Coke. It's debatable. I rate webOS and iPhoneOS as being on the top tier, followed by Android and Windows Mobile, then Symbian and ALP OS, then Blackberry OS at the back. For Nokia and RIM to have not pulled out a blank check to acquire webOS is truly shocking. These two companies are being left behind by Google and Apple and their respective platforms are already obsolete. webOS could have dragged RIM and Nokia into the 21st century. Instead they'll now get to sit by and watch Apple, Google and perhaps Microsoft licensees continue to gobble up their marketshare.
If you're going to try to bash Palm, at least try not to embarASS yourself with more idiotic statements. Better luck next time.
FJH
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
Fake Jeff Hawkins wrote:
It was brought out by Palm on a shoestring budget, in a desperately accelerated time scchedule and was hobbled by second rate hardware, inadequate development, limited harwdare choices, limited carriers and horrible promotion. Claiming that webOS is an "os and platform that has failed in the marketplace" shows you either are of limited intelligence or else you're getting desperate in your attempts to spread FUD about the platform.
Shoestring budget? Indeed. And it was ratty, threadbare shoestring at that!
Desperately accelerated time schedule? Oh yes. Only now is the OS getting anywhere close to "gold" status IMHO and it STILL lacks things like a direct access to the mic (voice recorder), voice dialing/commands (Bluetooth or otherwise!), removable expansion card support, support for non-physical keyboard formfactors (ie a virtual keyboard) or even user-assignable voicemail passwords.
2nd rate hardware? Absolutely. The screen size was already undersized next to the 2year old iPhone when the Pre launched and its screen resolution was the same as what Palm employed nearly six years prior on the T|T3. 800x480 is the new minimum benchmark for screen resolution for anything 3.2" or higher. And don't even get me started on Palm's pititful amount of fixed internal storage or the build quality!
Inadequate development? Also true (see response #1 above)
Limited hardware choices? Ditto, see above. There was no need for the artificual differentiation between the Pre & Pixi (ie intentional crippling of the Pixi to make the Pre look better). Palm should have had a Pixi FF with the Pre's screen as their meat & potatoes device and then followed it up with a Droid-style large screen flagship phone with a slide-out keyboard and killer specs.
Llimited carriers? We saw what was perhaps the worst launch of a platform in history with the Sprint exclusivity. Palm then managed to out-bungle themselves with a horrid Verizon rollout. And here we are 18 months after CES '09 and poor Pat Horne was only TODAY was able to get a GSM Pre. If you want an unlocked Pre outside of, what, 2 countries, you're going to have to wait even longer or pay through the nose for an imported device. The Pre was so dated by the time June '09 rolled around, Palm needed it on EVERY carrier imaginable ASAP. Despite the weak specs, paucity of apps, and lame build quality, Palm could still have sold a fair number of Pre between June & November '09, especially in Europe and on Verizon. After Android 2.0 shipped, things took a drastic turn for the worse.
Horrible promotion? Also, see above. Definitely in the running for one of the all-time worst launch campaigns ever. Palm never showed the "cool stuff" that the Pre could do. Even today, if you walk into BB Mobile or a VZW corporate store, you are told all of the cool stuff that Android phones can do...when WebOS can do most of it as well (web browsing) or even better (PIM, email) but the sales staff doesn't want to try to sell a WebOS device out of fear of a customer returning it and/or coming back repeatedly with "issues". Android is rapidly becoming the safe choice (behind iPhone, of course) but the horrible market fragmentation + piss poor QC by Google is going to seriously undermine Android's chances going forward. HP is now in the position Palm was in 12-18 months ago but with the added bonus of having about a gazillion more $ at their disposal. They need to strike NOW (ie by year's end), lest Google have more opportunities to gain marketshare and have their licensees (HTC or Moto) strongarm Android into being a halfway decent OS. Speaking of which...
P.S. FJH, you brought up a good point a few weeks ago about Google taking the lazy Palm-esque way and leaving it up to the licensees to hack Android up into a (mostly) decent OS. In all honesty, the perpetually ADD Google is a horrible choice for a company to carry the flag for the leading non-Apple mobile OS. Paralyzed by the stunning success of the original Palm Pilot up until the Pam V,Palm sat around for several years changing colors, stylus designs, and Hotsync connectors while Sony, HandEra/TRG, and Handspring pushed Palm OS to new levels. The exact same thing is going to happen to Google. What happens when a user tries to go from an HTC Sense device (Evo or Incredible) to a stock Google Experience device (Nexus X or Droid X) and is sorely disappointed? What happens when a customer has a decent experience with, say, an original Droid, then replaces it with something running Motorola's Blur abomination and leaves Android forever? I have bought precisely two Android apps because I get PO'd and consider abandoning the Android ship on a daily basis. Above all, HP, other than the painfully obvious (good build quality/specs/carrier offerings) needs to maintain a CONSISTENT look & feel + compatibility across WebOS. Even if it means immediately EOLing the Pixi and making Pre-level specs the absolute baseline, HP needs to learn from Google's missteps. Assuming there's any WebOS success to be had, HP must take early steps to prevent WebOS from becoming a victim of increased marketshare and developer interest.
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RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
FJH - If webos and Palm *didn't* fail in the marketplace, they wouldn't have been purchased by HP. Let's call it what it is.
Also, if webos development had an accelerated development schedule, that's due to years of Palm's ineptitude.
No desperation, no FUD. I've yet to see a single person using a Pre. I see tons of iphones, droids, and Ipads - but no Pre or Pre Plus.
$1.2 - 1.4 billion bought HP a turnkey smartphone and mobile device platform that is competitive with iPhone OS and is probably better than Android and Windows Mobile 7.
Don't you mean, *turkey* smartphone :)
The webos platform hasn't yet been competitive with iphone OS, and it's questionable if it will in fact be competitive with android or windows 7.
It's possible if HP pumps an additional billion dollars or so into allowing Palm to enhance webos and develop compelling hardware devices (tablet) that webos *might* take off.
It's also likely that if webos fails to gain market traction, after repeated attempts, that HP will gut Palm, rather then spending more money attempting to re-animate that dying corpse.
By writing a check for a trifling amount, HP immediately owns one of the two best smartphone/mobile OSes on the planet.
HP overpaid - plain and simple. If HP can turn Palm around and generate billions in revenue, more power to them.
They trump RIM, Nokia (Symbian), Google, and Microsoft with ZERO time/money/effort wasted developing an OS from scratch. No risk of wasting time developing an OS that ends up being killed off at the last minute.
Actually, it cost HP more than a billion dollars. And it will take another year to 18 months before we see the fruits of Palm's labors on HP's behalf.
We may see a new webos device or two this year, or webos grafted onto HP's frankentablet.
In retrospect, Apple spent $150 million dollars to develop the iphone and iphone OS.
HP definitely overspent because they are playing catch up.
Are you familiar with what has happened with mobile OSes developed by Palm/PalmSource (Cobalt, Palm Linux), Access (Access Linux Platform), Motorola (Motorola Linux), Nokia (maemo, MeeGo), etc.? Billions of dollars and years of development by some pretty smart people, all resulting in NOTHING useful to show. HP was smart enough to recognize that they could easily have spent $1 billion and 3 years coming up with their own proprietary OS only to find that when it arrived in 2013 it was as useless as Cobalt and that the competition had long since become so entrenched that it would be essentially impossible for a new OS to catch on in the market. HP was SMART. Not desperate.
HP was desperate - the competition is already entrenched and it's not 2013.
Add windows mobile 7 to the mix and HP/Palm will be playing catchup for the next two years for a distant 3rd or 4th place.
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Buying webOS is the equivalent of HP slipping the doorman at the hottest club in town $50 to let them not only cut the line but also get the best seats in the house in the VIP section.
Buying webOS is the equivalent of HP slipping a toothless prostitute $1000 to pimp her out and then spending another $500 to clean her up. Regardless of how much you spend, it's still a toothless prostitute.
And I said webOS RIVALS iPhone OS. Since you apparently are not familiar with the term "rivals", that means it is competitive with iPhone OS. As far as to which is "better", that's probably like asking if Pepsi is "better" than Coke.
You must be on coke. To say iphone os and webos are in any way equals is a vast distortion. apple puts a greater focus on usability; webos is still pretty immature. HP says webos is scalable, but iphone os has demonstrated scalability and runs on different form factors.
I rate webOS and iPhoneOS as being on the top tier, followed by Android and Windows Mobile, then Symbian and ALP OS, then Blackberry OS at the back. For Nokia and RIM to have not pulled out a blank check to acquire webOS is truly shocking.
Perhaps Nokia and Rim have their own labs filled with os designs that put webos to shame. Perhaps Palm's asking price was too much, considering how much additional $$$ would be needed to further enhance webos.
Stop drinking the kool-aid FJH - Besides HP, no one wanted to spend over a billion dollars on a hardware/software platform that has failed in the marketplace.
These two companies are being left behind by Google and Apple and their respective platforms are already obsolete. webOS could have dragged RIM and Nokia into the 21st century. Instead they'll now get to sit by and watch Apple, Google and perhaps Microsoft licensees continue to gobble up their marketshare.
I notice you don't say that "HP will gobble up their marketshare" :)
The only gobbling will be Palm eating into HP's cash reserves.
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
>>>The webos platform hasn't yet been competitive with iphone OS, and it's questionable if it will in fact be competitive with android or windows 7.
LMAO. Win7 hasn't a chance in hell. Or do you give it any chance because you're one of the few eejits carrying around a Zune?
Android will be pulled back into the GooglePlex, leaving everyone else high and dry and without an OS for their hardware. HP just avoided being anyone's bitch in the future.
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
You're grasping at straws here - ms is much larger the hp. hp/palm hasn't a chance in hell.
btw, never owned a zune. try again!
Android will be pulled back into the GooglePlex, leaving everyone else high and dry and without an OS for their hardware. HP just avoided being anyone's bitch in the future.
we'll see - I'll believe it when I see it!
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
I don't give a rat's ass what the size of MS is compared to HP. What was its size compared to Apple? Who's Apple's bitch now in music? PlaysForSure not! And for that matter, what was Apple's size compared to SONY, which ruled music with the Walkman?
Update your head. It's not working.
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
Android will be pulled back into the GooglePlex, leaving everyone else high and dry and without an OS for their hardware. HP just avoided being anyone's bitch in the future.
Wasn't the Zune actually a better QUALITY device than the iPod? I owned the original Diamond Rio and then a few iRiver MP3 players and find the sound quality on the iPod to be consistently bad. As recently as 2 years ago I compared the iPods to a couple of small Sony MP3 players and a Sony mylo and the iPods sounded second rate. I was tempted to try a Zune, but I don't see the point of carrying a large dedicated MP3 player these days.
Android is Google's way of hedging its bets. Google's desktop/laptop OS is Google's next frontier.
I don't give a rat's ass what the size of MS is compared to HP. What was its size compared to Apple? Who's Apple's bitch now in music? PlaysForSure not! And for that matter, what was Apple's size compared to SONY, which ruled music with the Walkman?
Amazing how quickly things can change. Even more amazing is how quickly people forget how things used to be.
RE: So WHO were the companies bidding on Palm? Heh heh heh...
We'll see. HP has lots of lost time and opportunity to make up for.
I sure webos enabled printers will conquer the world! ROTFL!!!!
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a Pixi Poem by Samuel Minturn Peck
All human ills they can subdue,
Or with a wand or amulet
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