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Intel today announced a new family of processors based on Intel XScale technology aimed at mobile devices, PDAs and smartphones. The new PXA270 line of processors feature new wireless MMX technology and speed step technology for rich multimedia optimization and reduced power consumption.
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crazyswede @ 4/12/2004 1:32:20 PM #
Looks interesting :)

Palmone better announce some new handhelds tomorrow or I am going to go down there and give them a good hiding....

I still have not made my mind up and now with these being released I think I better wait.

I wonder if the rumoured E2 are going to use one of the lower or mid range cpus? If it does and it has a 480x320 screen then I will buy it :D

RE: Cool
abosco @ 4/12/2004 2:44:23 PM #
624 MHz! :O You could easily overclock that to 800 MHz, or underclock it to 100 MHz. Utterly amazing. And with 64 MB Flash onboard! Beats the current PXA26x line with 32 MB Flash. Intel seems to be keeping very current with mobile technology trends, and they beat Samsung to the punch with getting these third generation mobile processors out to market. I can't wait.

So how's the HHE looking with 123 MHz? Please.

NX80v + Wifi + BT + T616

RE: Cool
TTrules @ 4/12/2004 3:51:26 PM #
I don't know whether this intel processor or the TI omap 2 will be beter. In a previous article, I read that the omap 2 would be available in speeds of up to 1 gigahert. If this is so, then intel better give up now.

One Palm to rule them all!
RE: Cool
robrecht @ 4/13/2004 6:58:19 AM #
"You could easily overclock that to 800 MHz, or underclock it to 100 MHz"

With the SpeedStep technology, would you still want to underclock this? Also, read somewhere that overclocking this processor creates heat and battery issues.

Thanks, robrecht

RE: Cool
JonathanChoo @ 4/13/2004 8:29:15 AM #
Who cares about clock speed. Look at the AMD Athlon XP and 64 CPUs and you know that clock speeds does not matter. What Intel needs to do is increase the cache in their CPUs while moving to 90nm in order to decrease the die size. Ramping up the clock speed is a bonus but not essential. PDA manufacturers also need to use faster memory.

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RE: Cool
helf @ 4/13/2004 10:51:39 AM #
I was about to say the same thing. Clock freq is not everything. Theres lots of other factors. This might be a decent cpu but I doubt it. Intel has been producing crap lately.

Now I'm going to get flamed :)

Buncha flamers ;P

Oh me oh my

vesther @ 4/12/2004 2:42:19 PM #
Poor TI, they seem to have harsh competition from Intel.....

First, the Tungsten handhelds were powered by TI's OMAP line of processors, then it came to the Intel X-Scale family of processors, and now I see Intel's PXA27x family of processors?!?!

Well, I hope AMD makes a move to compete against Intel and TI on the PDA Processor market soon.....

If Intel continues to make deals with PalmOne, then it could be the end of TI's hopes of powering PalmOne handhelds, but I hope that we all have a choice of processors from this point onward.

A Palm-Powered Handheld is the bread and butter for many people. Without a Palm-Powered Handheld, your progress is all for naught.

RE: Oh me oh my
markgm @ 4/12/2004 3:27:41 PM #
That'd be interesting to see AMD get their hand in all of this. I never thought of that before, I wonder if they do.

RE: Oh me oh my
javertiz @ 4/12/2004 4:31:31 PM #
AMD doesn't have the investment capital for this. They bet all or nothing on their Athlon 64 (Hammer) and their server based Opteron chips. AMD is currently focusing on building marketshare in the OEM server market so I doubt they'll invest in PDA type processors just to play catch-up to Intel all over again.
It would be interesting to see companies who currently build low power processors tackle the PDA market. I can definitely see space for VIA and Transmeta in this segment.

RE: Oh me oh my
grg @ 4/12/2004 7:59:52 PM #
Well, Intel is notorious for boosting the CPU frequency too often while the supposed performance gain is only proved - suspiciously - by certain benchmarks.
Anyway, I prefer an organiser that can last 24 hours of PIM use than a gadget for showing off or a toy where I can play Quake3 in 5x5cm screen for 30mins.

RE: Oh me oh my
Timothy Rapson @ 4/12/2004 8:30:59 PM #
Actually, AMD already has a RISC mobile/embedded chip that runs up to 800MZ. They put it into a Linux OS PDA prototype about a year ago. It is not ARM compatible, but it is the same sort of chip (RISC).

But, Intel and TI are not the only big players in ARMs. Motorola and Samsung make them too. There is already a LOT of choice here. I doubt AMD will jump in and doubt even more that they would change the market significantly even if they did.

My question on these new Intels is what happened to X-scale technology and will this offer real improvements in speed and battery life?

RE: Oh me oh my
robrecht @ 4/13/2004 7:04:18 AM #
"Anyway, I prefer an organiser that can last 24 hours of PIM use than a gadget for showing off or a toy where I can play Quake3 in 5x5cm screen for 30mins."

Read somewhere that these will use significantly less power than PXA262 chips, eg, 42% better battery life playing MP3s and 77% better playing QVGA video.

Thanks, robrecht


commando @ 4/12/2004 8:14:03 PM #
SpeedStep is the biggest thing here for me. Battery life on the latest PDAs is quite terrible, anything to help extend it would be welcome. My old Palm V went for a week or two without charging, i'd love for newer ones to do that, but with the fast processors and bright color screens it's a big ask.

RE: SpeedStep
helf @ 4/13/2004 10:54:53 AM #
I have run my zodiac for 1 week :)



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