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Seems a bit much...
While the pro version now let you choose to use a different email provider, you are still required to have the Email client installed "Memory requirements: 850 kb of space plus email client". Further, in either version, I DON"T need another Jpeg viewer, I'd be nice if I could ditch this functionality altogether. I never use it and yet it takes up memory. It's taken how many versions to include location support? Meanwhile (last I checked) dialing a contact from the agendus contact's window is not logged under contact History.
I went to Agendus originally because it was eaisy to use looked good and above all, let me integrate contacts with meeting and Todo's. I'm just not sure that all of the Junk I'd have to install (an not use) would be worth the upgrade. Maybe if Iabic released a lite version (with out the Jpeg, email, vivid agenda, ect..)? Just my $0.02
Mike Allwitt
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I still laugh at how Iambic could have been so stupid in the whole thing.
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Out in the cold
When I read that they had overcome that obstacle, I damn near tripped over myself getting to their website to read about it.
They haven't quite done it yet.
I don't know what the difference is between a "linked" contact and "attendees," but I bet the latter don't get history generated by the meetings that they are only "attendees" for.
Sadly enough, I actually stopped using Agendus all together about two months ago when I realized that there just wasn't any huge benefit to it. The T3 agenda screen is much better,mainly because it shows me my todo instead of telling me how many I have, but also because it tells me how much Versamail I have and lets me link right to it. Agendus also suffers from an inability to quickly filter by calendar category (which the T3 lets me color code nicely) unless they've fixed that.
And the worst part is, they've left me out in the cold by making their multi-linking contact feature available only on the professional version. I've been a loyal user for five years and now I can't even pay my usual bloat-fee of $10 to get it?
Still alienating me after all this time...
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RE: Out in the cold
I have 10 meetings a week as a minimum, and find all the new features incredible.
Its so easy to create meetings etc.. Yes its bulky in size . Or is it? Just look at some of the new games that are over 3mb in size.
Has anyone really tried the demo yet. And even if you say you have, its only been out a day or so, so nobody here could have tested it heavily.
Anyway, its late in the UK and I'm off to rest.
Zlauncher 3.62b, Tungsten TT3.
RE: Out in the cold
second, In the Professional version, the Iambic mail component doesn't have to be installed.
Third: if you add attendees to a meeting, it is shown in their history.
RE: Out in the cold
As for all the wonderful aspect of the "professional" version, I just don't understand why they've made it so hard for a long-time user to get the best features. Do they even have an option for me to upgrade from a standard version to the newest? What if I didn't see a reason to upgrade to v.7? Does that mean I have to pay full-price for version 8? And why to they differentiate between a contact that is linked and contacts that are attendees?
Alright dammit. I'll download the trial and answer my own questions!
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RE: Out in the cold
Well, I've said it before...
I, too, started using this app a long time ago, back in the ActionNames Datebook days. But I stopped using it around version 6. In all my years of using a Palm OS PDA, this is the only company that charges a minimum of $10 for every minor bug fix or enhancement, calling it an "upgrade."
It's really quite good software, but I wouldn't pay $200.00 for it out of the box, and I won't pay that much in the long run for it, either.
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Beware Of Agendus 8.0 Upgrade Policy
This could possibly mean, if there are any bugs in the existing software you may not get a fix unless you have bought their "Palm Subscription Service".
Not too long ago, it was this company that hijacked a non-profit software company's website (DateBk5). I am sure many of us still remember that fiasco. It just seems this company - Iambic - is one of those greedy and revolting companies that have not learned from their previous actions.
So, before you upgrade or buy Agendus 8.0 - just be aware that on top of the $39.95 or $29.95 you are paying, you may not get any bug fix unless you pony up another $14.95.
RE: Beware Of Agendus 8.0 Upgrade Policy
AFAIK, Pimlico is not a non-profit company, and Iambic did not "hijack" their actual website (they registered previously unregistered names that were related to DateBk). If people here want to continue to whine about what was a 3-5 day incident two years ago where an apology was issued, at least post facts about it.
RE: Beware Of Agendus 8.0 Upgrade Policy
The above statement comes from Pimlico's website.
How true. Perhaps you should check your facts too. It is not a whine but an informed message to potential users of Agendus who may not be aware of their policies and previous business practices. If this does not concern you, it should not concern you.
Perhaps, I should rephrase to an exacting statement that the "hijack" was not Pimlico's website per se. Happy?
RE: Beware Of Agendus 8.0 Upgrade Policy
I don't want to argue over this, but donating "proceeds" to a non-profit organization does not make Pimlico a non-profit software company. It just means that they donate to a non-profit organization that appears to be run by the same or a related person. It doesn't mean that they aren't doing a good thing, but as a matter of FACT they do not appear to be a non-profit company.
RE: Beware Of Agendus 8.0 Upgrade Policy
If they don't receive any money to themselves because the proceeds all go to a charity organization, how is that different from nonprofit?
In fact, if they are a charity organization themselves, selling services that generate funds for those means, that seems to meet the definition of nonprofit.
What's missing from this equation to get you onboard with pimlico being nonprofit?
Where is there any ambiguity about where the money of the sale of registered copies of Datebk5 is going? It seems pretty well spelled out to me, but maybe I am missing something.
RE: Beware Of Agendus 8.0 Upgrade Policy
> registered copies of Datebk5 is going?
Like I said before this really isn't worth arguing about. I'd assume if they were a non-profit, they would say so on their website. "Proceeds" may or may not mean all proceeds. Also, they may have other sources of profit such as their licensing agreement with Handspring. "Proceeds" can also be rather vague when you're donating from your own company to your own charity.
All that I was pointing out is that they do not appear to be a non-profit company.
RE: Beware Of Agendus 8.0 Upgrade Policy
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RE: Beware Of Agendus 8.0 Upgrade Policy
Iambic should stick to the same model that so many other companies have used successfully for years: offer an upgrade price for improved functionality, but charge nothing for incremental bug fixes or improvements.
I'm sorry I ever put my money with Iambic now, and I'm certainly rethinking the idea that I should put good money after bad with this new update.
I long for the days when I was using PocketPC (gasp!) and purchased PocketInformant. Those kids know how to run a software company.
RE: Beware Of Agendus 8.0 Upgrade Policy
It just doesn't detract from the fact that Iambic's upgrade policy sucks and is an action that confounds good business practice. This one reeks of greediness and stupidity. I, merely as a previous user and potential customer disagree with this policy and only highlighting to people that may or may not know about this policy.
I am not on a crusade to bash Iambic - after that DateBk5 fiasco, I stopped upgrading Agendus and bought DateBk5 instead as a show of solidarity that we, the customers are not lemmings and so don't treat us as as one.
Having said that, over time I thought I would give Agendus another shot. But looks like this leopard never changes it spots and their greed is disgusting. If as a customer you agree with their upgrade policy - fantastic. But if I am going to pony up extra moolah, I want to know WHAT upgrade I am going to get for the one year subscription and nowhere in Iambic's website says anything about it.
Is this a whinge? No. I want to know what I am buying, that's all. And for most customers, I am sure they feel the same.
RE: Beware Of Agendus 8.0 Upgrade Policy
Caveat emptor, baby.
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RE: Beware Of Agendus 8.0 Upgrade Policy
According to Iambic sales:
Hello,
That is a new service and it is a bit confusing. The subscription is for
the major upgrades like 9.0, 10.0 etc. The minor updates for 8.0 you will
be able to download without paying.
Regards,
Sales
So bug fixes to 8 WILL be free, it's major upgrades that won't. Personally I'm still going to stick with 6 - it does what I want, and neither 7 nor 8 offer me anything I need. I'll see what 9 and 10 bring...
Gareth
Lots of Audio, No Video...
I've found the best for me (Pimlico products), but the Agendus users (and detractors) need slightly different functionality, so where's the enterprising capitalist that will sieze the opportunity?
Puck
Maybe it's just me, but ...
I really liked version 7 of Agendus and thought that was the best PIM app on any handheld device be it PPC, P900, Palm, or other. But after seeing version 8 and all this cool new stuff
-multiple contact linking
-photos on to dos
-photos on contacts
-option to specify my preferred dialer, which i can change on-the-fly by the way, so i can dial my mobile via blue tooth or tone dial my work or home phone ... i love that
-can now also specify my preferred sms or email app which is cool
-category icon/colorization is convenient
-that automatic icon assignment thing is even useful
-follow-up options on alarm reminders is killer, so you can dial, email or sms the contact linked to the event. This is super convenient, it's small touches like this that just make it so great to use.
-the highlighting on fonts is actually totally needed, this makes the wallpaper so much more useable because now you don't loose readability. Very slick.
there are a bunch of other new features too, but the ones listed above are what really just stood out to me the most after using it for a couple of days now.
Cheers.
RE: Maybe it's just me, but ...
Doing the math on all my PDA purchases over the past few years, probably totals close to $4000 (I know, could have a pretty nice notebook for that, and I do) :) What is $100 over the course of 4-5 years of upgrades? (I started with Action Names v2 I believe)
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Interesing upgrade but....
That having been said, this upgrade is really for the Zire 32 and Tungsten and above crowd. Those of us still content with our m515's and below need not apply. It's over 800K, and a lot of the features are completely worthless lo-res.
I'm quite happy with 7.06 and will probably stay at this level 'til I replace my unit.
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