Comments on: palmOne Shares Soar 40% on Positive Outlook

That's a little over the top... how' about PalmOne buy Palmsource... ;-)

JLM.

While I don't quote my father much, this time it fits. He says, "Most people love to knock a winner 'cause most people ain't worth a damn." and "You can shake it up as much as you want to make it look bad but the cream always rises to the top."

I'll put those who knock Palm up there with most anti-war protestors. Neither crowd really wants things to get better and they profit from the misery of others.

>>I'll put those who knock Palm up there with most anti-war protestors. Neither crowd really wants things to get better and they profit from the misery of others.

i was with you up until that comment - how exactly are anti-war protestors profiting frrom the misery of others??? it doesn't take a genius to figure out that the business of war is infinitely more profitable (just ask american companies who will make BILLIONS off the iraq war). yeah, yeah - this is off topic, but i could not that that one go...

I knew that analogy would spark something. Well here is something that left wing types never ever talk about since most are totally cluess on what they are supporting.

While military contractors do profit from wartime efforts, their earnings are peanuts when compaired to goverment elite earnings from nationalization and socialization of businesses and a society.

Yes, you think of a socialist or nationalist effort as a run by a bunch of overworked and underpaid civil servants but that is just the rank and file of government management. While military contracts are profiting off government programs, there is a lot more money made with "social service" contractors that is also owned by elected officals of some countries.

I view the invasion of Iraq as effectively an anti-trust and monopoly breaking action. Saddan and his clique had unlimited freedom, no one else did. Now the "freedom monopoly" is broken and the citizens are much more free. There will be adjustment times and so on for these newly reearned freedoms for the citizens but in the long run things will get better due to a lack of centralization of power.

All of these people that belly-ache about the war being bad in fact are compalining that their personal power and influence is being reduced. Big media that over exploits issues for the gain of a few, celebs who won't get millions of favors in their art grant programs and people who been living off stipens without getting any practical product (i.e. many non-techical college faculty) for their entire life are like that.

Most of all, when a freedom monopoly is broken, these elites know that they would vaporize into small value when everyone gets a chance. Frankly, I would love to see how the entertainment industry would fare if all these monopolies (i.e. entertainment guilds and unions) were broken up real talent wouldn't have to go through the liberal political filter before they are allowed to get in front of the camera. This is starting to happen with Fox TV and many indie flicks starting to do well (notice that "Blair Witch Project" didn't get a single Academy Award nomination since it was indie.)

Let freedom ring and drown out all the screaming liberals that want to take our freedoms away out of Politically Correctness (a term coined by Stalin himself.)

All of these people that belly-ache about the war being bad in fact are compalining that their personal power and influence is being reduced.

Yeah, actually, that's the only thing that you've said so far that makes any sense at all.

As a member of a democracy, I felt my power was reduced when my president lied repeatedly about the exsistance of Weapons of Mass Destruction in order to coerce this country into attacking another unnecessarily. How can I make informed decisions about which political party I should support when being fed false information?

You should spend less time with the Rush/Fox/instapundit crowd - for your own sake.

(For the record, I personally think we should have put this kind of force into Afghanistan and actually FIXED things there first before going off on some kind of quixotic charge around the Middle East. Maybe even actually caught Osama first - Remember him - The guy who actually WAS responsible for REAL terrorist attacks? Ever heard the phrase 'Too many irons in the fire'?)

RhinoSteve, looks like Bush & co. could hire you, since looks like you know some things that they actually don't. Anyway, about "the WMD are there": up to now, reality itself begs to differ. Or do you have any new evil plot for us? (to further the one that brought that war in the first place). Perhaps, apart from being a (presumed) Apple employee, you are a CIA insider?

Oh, and I'd love to know how you rationalize Guantanamo and the like. I'd bet it's something along "we're the victims AND the good guys, therefore we have a right to do whatever to whomever. We need no stinkin' proofs - nor International Justice nor Geneva conventions."

Orb, I'm with you. I'd like to know what would have happened if instead of getting into the whole unexplainable Iraq mess they had actually gone after Al Qaeda. In fact I'd love to know what they are waiting for.

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RhinoSteve, I'm mystified about how easy it is for you to find strange/twisted (apart from unasked for) relationships between subjects on a site called PalmInfoCenter and your political/historical opinions... "Jobs is like Hilter and Mossolini" [sic], "Palm bashers are like the anti-war crowd, who neither really wants things to get better and profit from the misery of others".

You really start to sound like, biased?
And your technical posts sound like a bit hard to explain. Certainly, you don't even try. So, are you sure you're here to talk about Palm matters?

Ryan, since you were so quick to delete threads on quite pertinent topic like the missing Palm BT drivers & censorship, I really hope the above extremely off-topic, pointless discussion gets zapped ASAP.

Otherwise I (and several PIC faithful) shall really begin considering the conspiracy rumors about PIC & PalmOne to be true.

Right, and I do not feel that ANY post, short of outright slander/inflammatory comments/personal attacks/profanity should be deleted--certainly nothing pertaining to pressing issues in the Palm community.

If a certain nameless face poster chooses to post potentially defaming content that is critical of the business practices of PalmOne/PalmSource (ie withholding BT drivers in order to sell more handhelds, not offering assistance to Sandisk for Wi-Fi etc) that is still not reason enough to commence with rampant deletion of posts. I find this slash & burn practice especially apalling when relevant comments made by longtime PIC members & contributors like Mikecane, Winter and myself are zapped with no warning or Admin intervention.

I posted two days ago that I feel the PIC members are entitled to an official statement by Ryan stating the journalistic integrity of PIC, its affiliation (if any) to PalmOne, and where the line is drawn on questionable content such as rumors that shed light onto issues that actually concern Palm handheld users such as the maddening, glaring lack of OS5 BT drivers. A community-oriented websit such as this one should be an open forum where board members of a publicly-traded company like PalmOne can be praised or criticized (within reason, of course). I am not advocating turing PIC into another f****dcompany.com but I think that if too much sterility/censorship is artifically injected in the forums & news comments via selective deletion, then this website will cease to be little more than board to post new press releases.

How can a discussion about Weapons of Mass Destruction & the war in Iraq be relevant to PLMO shares going up in value? Why aren't posts regarding Iraq either deleted or given Admin advice to take over to the off-topic forum. Certainly a discussion on the non-release of BT drivers is not worthy of deletion and far more relevant to the platform near & dear to most of the regular visitors to this site.

Let this be the end of my rant on the topic (for the time being) or at least until this post too is deleted. I am trying to take a mature, professional stance here and would appreciate some company in taking the high road.

This is bs. Ryan, please delete all the posts/comments that are not relevant to PDAs or general portable computing in general.

If you want to take your pro-war or anti-war propaganda arguements please do so in a Yahoo! forum or your favourite ultra left/ultra right wing channel.

I am in one camp but I won't say which one. This is not the right place to do so. If I put my opinion I would be labeled as ignorant by the other side. It is always that way.

All I can say is that I support PalmOne's business. Come on Palm, get that Treo update fast before the smartphone market is swamped with loads of (quite nice) PocketPC phone editions.

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I'm guessing that you haven't been watching what's been happening in the stock market for the last year or so. This kind of thing has been happening to many stocks lately. Too many people with too much money on the sidelines with too low of interest rates. To be blunt, a new tech bubble is just starting to form.