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More pictures of the rumored palmOne Treo 650 have been posted. The new pictures show more angles of the upcoming smartphone and confirm additional details.
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Quickster @ 9/29/2004 8:38:05 PM #
First thing I noticed about these new pictures is that this keyboard once again has the highlighted number keys which is a very good thing indeed. And if this new model was available I would have mine right now.

RE: Keyboard
dmacdonald95 @ 9/29/2004 9:52:23 PM #
Any idea about the price though?

Palm Zire -> Palm Zire 31 (in a few weeks ;-))
RE: Keyboard
jonecool @ 10/1/2004 10:18:22 AM #
It almost doesn't matter. I'm ready to buy now! Ok, as long as it's less then $500 with a 1 yr. contract.


dompeco @ 9/29/2004 9:59:29 PM #
In the sixth pic there is a T.V. icon.
Any Ideas?
RE: Programs
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 9/29/2004 10:10:46 PM #

Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.

RE: Programs
joej @ 9/30/2004 2:33:25 AM #
'TV' has the same icon as 'Dcinstaller' and 'Debug Prefs' in pic#5 - could they be developer tools/utils that will be gone at public release?

Newton. Sharp Mobilon. Psion 5, 5mx. Visor Deluxe. Clie N760. Palm Personal, III, T, T2, T3. SE t68i on T-Mo.
RE: Programs
willwinter @ 9/30/2004 9:30:30 AM #
Maybe this is the MobiTV option that is available on the SprintPCS netowrk:

and here:

RE: Programs
willwinter @ 9/30/2004 9:34:47 AM #
And of course here:


jho4thclie @ 9/30/2004 2:15:42 AM #
This would be my absolute dream Palm, if I didn't have to step down from my T|C's 50+MB usable to a measly 20MB usable space... I have a ton of stuff on my Palm, and I'm waiting for a high-res, bluetooth way to combine my phone and Palm into one device.

This could have been it, but I need my memory (I try to avoid external storage... VFS bugs me).


RE: Pity...
JonathanChoo @ 9/30/2004 4:03:52 AM #
You have to remember if they put more RAM into it the battery life would take a hit. Just add a SD card.

In fact if you compare this to most smartphones (its competitors) then the specs are quite impressive.

RE: Pity...
just_little_me @ 9/30/2004 6:42:55 PM #
The SE K700i has over 45MB from what I hear... twice that of the 650. With a replacable battery I think it's suicide offering such a paltry amount of memory. I'd happily buy a spare battery in exchange for 32MB more storage.

The 650 was my dream machine - it was sounding oh so nice - now it's just another let down... damn damn damn :-(

I was hoping to run my Navman GPS gear on it - but with only 20MB free it will be impossible with everything else I need. Might have to go for the T5 - with the virtual SD card in it I can put all my maps on that, and leave my SD slot free for... umm... something...


Still has an antenna and low RAM

NikMan @ 9/30/2004 2:31:39 AM #
The should get rid of the antenna and add more storage for programs. 20mb is NOTHING damnit!

Also I miss the FM Radio support. BUt ok, it Palm and they are sloW!


Ambiguous battery readings

Patrick @ 9/30/2004 2:40:32 AM #
The picture showing the actual battery clearly shows 1900 mAh capacity, but the picture showing the Treo's "Battery" application running has a line with an "estimated" capacity of 2000 mAh. Hmmm.

What is the capacity of the battery on the 600?

RE: Ambiguous battery readings
RAMdŽd @ 9/30/2004 9:39:06 AM #

Estimated capacity is 2000mA and the battery is listed at 1900mA?

Alert Scully and Muldar! The game is afoot and we can be hoodwinked!!

Given the vagaries of manufacturing batteries and electronics, I find a 100mA "discrepency" not worthy of a post.

Perhaps that's why the est cap: is used instead of guar cap:.

"Dammit, Jim! It's a PDA, not a VOM!"

An armed society is a polite society.

RE: Ambiguous battery readings
Strider_mt2k @ 10/1/2004 10:24:58 AM #
Stop the presses!

100 MA! LOL

Accept Bluetooth headset

Wuju @ 9/30/2004 9:40:02 AM #
Anyone knows if the built in bluetooth technology accept voice communication like Sony Ericsson Bluetooth headset at all? I would like to use it with the Treo650 to speak wirelessly as well as using the regular wired headset. Thanks.

RE: Accept Bluetooth headset
karrock @ 9/30/2004 9:59:15 AM #
Don't see why not... I love my HS810 -- when it's closed, it's off, not on standby, which makes for outstanding battery time.


Pilot --> V --> m505 --> Tungsten T3

RE: Accept Bluetooth headset
futureT4user @ 9/30/2004 10:34:07 AM #
Yes, that's the point of having BT in a phone.

RE: Accept Bluetooth headset
Wuju @ 9/30/2004 10:37:17 AM #
I hope so because one would want a bluetooth on the phone for wireless data transmission with your notebook for sync or web access but it may not able to do wireless voice communication hence my original question.

look ppl these are real pictures....

hyperdaz @ 9/30/2004 11:19:10 AM #
The product might change from these pics when its shipped who knows but they are REAL..... with real lighting and real quality...

and now for my next magic trick real pics of then next Real PALM PDA

What is on the back?

JarJar @ 9/30/2004 11:27:57 AM #
Is that a business card holder? If so, good idea!
RE: What is on the back?
hyperdaz @ 9/30/2004 12:01:07 PM #
sir they took the back case off to show the phones battery u can clearly see the word battry top right corner ;)

RE: What is on the back?
jonecool @ 9/30/2004 1:43:26 PM #
That feature was added by the same guy who created the cup-holder on your PC. Just press the little eject button and whola! ;-)

RE: What is on the back?
hyperdaz @ 9/30/2004 8:39:15 PM #
but but but I dont see no button that says eject... :-o

Treo -- yikes!

mikecane @ 9/30/2004 12:29:59 PM #
This thing looks soooo good, I can't say I'm not VERY tempted...

RE: Treo -- yikes!
just_little_me @ 10/1/2004 2:15:21 AM #
I hate double-negatives... :-)


RE: Treo -- yikes!
martinp13 @ 10/1/2004 10:23:59 AM #
You mean you don't hate no double negatives. :)

> Martin

Blackberry Connect

HFranks @ 9/30/2004 2:57:50 PM #
Now all I need is the blackberry connect software to be released and I can kill off my Palm T3 and Blackberry. Palm and RIM keep announcing the blackberry connect (back in May/June and now this week) without ever committing to a release date. Come on PalmSource/RIM - lets get the software out there. I'm tired of carrying two devices.

I'll also second the choice for more memory. A Secure Digital card is fine, but it doesn't work for programs that need to be synced.

RE: Blackberry Connect
madhatter @ 9/30/2004 7:44:51 PM #
"A Secure Digital card is fine, but it doesn't work for programs that need to be synced."

Actually that is not true.. If you get a launcher program called Launcher X, you can save a very small shortcut on your PDA which will then allow programs on the card to be synced. Obviously you must have the card inserted, but outside of that, it works great. I use this method to get Avantgo to sync from the card. I keep the main program on the card saving 953k on the Palm, and the shortcut is only 385 bytes.

A Palm in hand is worth two in your pocket.

RE: Blackberry Connect
martinp13 @ 10/1/2004 10:24:48 AM #
Some programs will let you sync to the SD card. Plucker has a setting to save my multi-megabyte files right onto the SD card.

> Martin

SD I/O port

fleehartsell3 @ 9/30/2004 9:50:19 PM #
Does the SD I/O port mean that you could use the recently released SD WiFi card from P1 in it?

RE: SD I/O port
just_little_me @ 10/1/2004 2:16:00 AM #
Assuming they do the drivers for it, and it can power the card OK... then, yes!


How about waiting a little longer for Treo 700???

GearHead @ 10/7/2004 1:07:13 PM #
I wish this was the first Treo to be announced, with all these goodies. I think Plam 1 needs to come up with a better Treo to compete with new HP, as far connectivity goes.
Following could be the specifications.

Intel 624 mHZ Processor
Quad GSM

I think this is the ultimate Treo to stir the market aound the globe. Definetly a winner.

You never know, may be it'll happen.

I bet they will call this Treo 700 and will be available by December 2005!

Let's cross our fingers.


Palm III>Palm IIIx>PalmV>PalmVx>Palm m505>Palm M515>Tungsten T
Dell X30 624Mhz w/BT+Wi-Fi
Nokia 6600 w/BT

RE: How about waiting a little longer for Treo 700???
wanderman @ 10/7/2004 1:35:15 PM #
Something like this perhaps?

Cheers, W.

anyone used the Treo 600 with Fido in Canada

Wuju @ 10/12/2004 3:36:59 PM #

With an unlock Treo 600, anyone used it with the Fido carrier. Any problem with performance or service. I would like to get the 650 and I imagine if it works woth 600, it will work with 650 as well as long as it's unlock. thanks.

RE: anyone used the Treo 600 with Fido in Canada
2kunal @ 4/15/2005 6:31:47 AM #
ne idea how i can get my tungsten W unlocked... its locked with att service at the mmt...


RE: anyone used the Treo 600 with Fido in Canada
surfpalm @ 7/1/2005 12:22:39 AM #
As long as your TREO 600/650 is GSM and unlock. Fido is GSM.

Anyone tried the GSM server for Treo 650 unlocks?

RE: anyone used the Treo 600 with Fido in Canada
4321media @ 7/7/2005 12:26:30 PM #
Check out 4321media
Email treo650@4321MEDIA.COM

they are helpfull with the unlock and firmware upgrades
they helped out a lot. They sold me a treo 600 and 650 that I use in canada and it works very well.

Thanks for the help guys

RE: anyone used the Treo 600 with Fido in Canada
treoma650 @ 10/13/2005 8:49:42 AM #
I used

to unlock my Treo 650. it worked without any hassle, the software and instructions link is

RE: anyone used the Treo 600 with Fido in Canada
palminfo @ 10/21/2005 12:48:30 AM # worked just fine, unlocking TREO 650. The tip I learned was to make sure the drivers are installed.