Comments on: palmOne Announces Leadership Transition, CEO Resigns

Well, what my source told me was that he angered everyone in an important meeting when his T5 alarms kept going off. He stated that it had no vibra-alarm. The Board started pushing him out at that point. Can't confirm that tho. :-o

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com

The books are in the oven, and the timer's been set. Palm's next quarterly statement should show a sorry tale of borrowing from Peter to pay Paul.

Treo 650 isn't saving the company and Palm's regular PDAs are underwhelming. The company had its chance but blew it in 2004. Now it's just a matter of playing out the string. The Wall Street curs will smell blood soon enough and "The Netscaping of Palm" will draw to its now-inevitable tragic conclusion.

If you like PalmOS and plan to keep using it over the next few years, stock up on those T3, CLIE, etc. before April 2005. This is gonna get ugly.

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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.

Todd, sorry not Ted!

Oh I see. You've got your "Palms" confused. PalmSource made that decision, not PalmOne.

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Editor, http://Pocketfactory.com
Contributing Editor, http://digitalmediathoughts.com

Your second post confuses me though! What has palmsource got to do with this?
Anyhow, never mind, I suspect a misunderstanding!

And now Colligan is at the helm? Oh my. My oh my oh my.

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Editor, http://Pocketfactory.com
Contributing Editor, http://digitalmediathoughts.com

I just posted about this on my site. This is the best news to come out of PalmOne in quite a while. Welcome back, Ed.

Microsoft spies @ PalmOne? I think MS is probably trying to build a nice bridge over there, so that they can get in the door honestly and crush every last vestige of Palmsource.

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com

Good. I hope that guy who was here a few weeks ago bragging about how much he had been making from the stock had to sell his house to cover his losses. Fool.

Earth to Palm fanatics (me included): walk around the office. What are ALL managers, ALL CEOs, ALL finance people, and ALL IT people using these days. Everyone in business is using the RIM.

What's amazing is the lack of decent software for the RIM, yet it has conquered Palm. No one can touch them right now. As long as Exchange Server rules the roost, RIM will rule pocket pinball. The only place I ever see Palm OS is in old Symbol barcode scanners at the stadiums. And in 19 year old girls' schoolbags. Palm screwed up with the biz set. Now their stock is approaching penny status.

-- Buy on rumor, sell on news...

NX70 addict...

I agree with the statement about what a lot of corporate employees seem to be using (especially lately where I work), but I recently saw a satistic that RIM was really still a very small percentage of users compared to MS and P1 operated PDA's. I wouldn't bank on your observations alone.

http://news.com.com/PalmOne+CEO+to+step+down/2100-1041_3-5548329.html?tag=nefd.lede

"As a result, Palm has been increasingly focused on its Treo line."

Am I the only person in existance who:
1) still wants a phone to calls with and a PDA to do PDA stuff with (thus keeping them seperate)
2) also wants a juicy 320 x 480 screen
3) DOESN'T WANT A FRIGGING TINY THUMBOARD THAT YOU CAN'T TYPE S*** ON CLOGGING THINGS UP AND HAS BEEN THE BANE OF THE T/W, T/C AND TREO SERIES.

If this is where Palm's headed then their stock will nosedive, they will haemorrage users and I will be stuck the day I can't resurrect my T3 from the dead...

I personally think the (sell-through) sales of TREO 600s and TREO 650s has NEVER been exciting and I strongly suspect that amazing sell-in result of a few quarters ago that surprised everyone (and that the then-CFO did not sign off on).

Thus I can't agree with much of the details of that article your post quoted.

I agree with Masamune and RSC1000. Things don't look good for P1.

I guess Masamune and I are throwbacks for wanted a PDA to do just PDA stuff, and a cell phone for making calls. Bluetooth connectivity is useful, but I would really rather have wi-fi if given the choice.

I hope P1 comes out with a new Tungsten soon; I think that the T5 sales will disappoint far more than anyone expects. While the form factor (apparently, if T|E sales are any indication) appeals to people, I think that there's a lot of people (like me) just waiting for the next Tungsten, or even Zire, device from P1 that has the features we really want. I'll use the wi-fi card if I absolutely have to, but I really won't like it.

I am already considering going PPC as it is, but want to give P1 one last shot, since I really liked my old T2 (I really wish it hadn't crapped out so badly) and my M100 before that.

P1, for the love of God, listen to the people on the boards. It's free market research! We're telling you what people will buy, just give us the features we want already!

Actually he stated ... P1, for the love of God, listen to the people on the boards. It's free market research! We're telling you what people will buy, just give us the features we want already!

Sorry

Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com

I think part of the problem PalmOne has is partly our fault. There are millions of PDA users out there all wanting PDAs for different purposes as demonstrated by PIC. My view is that Palm will be shooting itself in the foot by restricting itself to purely smartphones. Palm will need to keep a line of pure PDAs running alongside the Treo or risk alienating some existing users such as myself and bhalrog.

Thank you, Masamune and Gekko. All I meant was that there are some features demanded on websites such as PIC that, frankly, are not that unreasonable, e.g. wi-fi. My ideal P1 device is a T3 with built-in wi-fi (I'm okay with losing Bluetooth to do this, although I'd prefer to keep it), the processor in the T5, 128+ MB RAM, and Cobalt OS and accompanying other software (latest version of Docs to Go, and including Bejeweled probably wouldn't go amiss either :) ). I think that a PDA like this would be relatively well received; 320 x 480 VGA screen and/or other improvements would be even better. Most of these features have already been included in past models, or can be implemented without too much strain, I think.

The key is to perform actual improvements to devices. You know, it's like progress. Don't take away features people like (charging light, slider (well, liked by me, anyway), vibrating alert, voice recorder), replace them with less well-liked or hated features (hello, flash memory), and then charge more for the privilege. (See the comments to the review of the T5 for a good overview of where I'm getting this from; note also the discussion re: market research.) It's pretty simple, really; keep what people like and then build on that.

And, finally, like Gekko says, "Do not underestimate the mass market's desire for innovative features and value." Even if they don't use it, most people really like the cool stuff.

Did you just see a broken Palm V sticking out of the surf or something? LOL

They blew it up!

What Gekko said. You twats.

nice find.