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Sony Corp. has just named Howard Stringer as its chairman pending shareholder approval. This move marks the first time a foreigner will head a major Japanese electronics firm.
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Why is this news here?

RhinoSteve @ 3/7/2005 2:55:08 PM # Q
Since Sony pulled out of the Palm OS market why is this being reported here? Any news from Sony should be personana non grata as far as this web site goes.
RE: Why is this news here? Because. Dumba$$.
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 3/7/2005 3:38:31 PM # Q
Sony's PSP is a major threat to Palm and its licencees. The CEO can dictate corporate strategy, so the news iten is relevant.

And even if if wasn't relevant, who the fcuk are you to complain about it? Ryan busts his a$$ updating this site with interesting items and that's the best "Thanks" you can give? Have you *ever* contributed a news item to Palminfocenter? Go back to drinking moonshine with your inbred little hillbilly wife, BubbaSteve.





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RE: Why is this news here?
samagonistes @ 3/7/2005 9:31:46 PM # Q
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! What's with the venom? He's asking a legitimate question and you replied (partly) with a legitimate response. If you left out the second part, your response would've sparked an interesting debate.

I agree that Stringer's appointment will prove interesting in the coming months (years), as it could (highly unlikely, but probable in the Lotto sense) spark the company to come out with the Clie reincarnate.



RE: Why is this news here?
benamy @ 3/8/2005 12:22:54 AM # Q
This new my dear friends because LEADERSHIP COUNTS.

This is clear evidence why Sony withdrew from the handheld market. They were leaderless. And in that vacuum major decision and indecision was made that turned Sony away from the PALM OS plateform and towards the Sony/Ericson partnership while changing the ideas of the little Sony handheld game machine.

We have been debating these issues in many posts in the forums- take a look if you havent seen the discussions.

So without flaming anyone, ranting which sounds negative, or taking any personal shots, I would like to continue the discussions about the future of the Palm OS with this major Sony announcement as the backdrop of progress or decline of the PALM OS.

LEADERSHIP drives SOFTWARE and SOFTWARE DRIVES HARDWARE.

I believe that is an indisputable truth. Nothing new is being developed on the hardware front that has already been released that is going to ignite any new developments this year at least and probably the next few years. The big hardware break through cycles have occurred and the adoption of those benefits are going to continue to present themselves.

Now SOFTWARE is a new and expanding area that has many up and coming promises to fufill. MSFT has Mobile 2005 coming in just a few months and Symbian has 9.0 competing right along with the missing in action Cobalt 14 months in the released making.

The software is what drives these new hardware developments. Do you all remember the San Disk WiFi card for the Palm OS? The card existed but the drives were missing unable to be written and Palm started to lose its footing. While at the time it was just a little crack in the wall it has now become a major handicap.

And that is the reason why LEADERSHIP drives the software which drives the hardware which provides the benefit to adopting the product.

Just as Sony has lost its footing in consumer electronics for whatever reason- cost, propriator, lack of compatiblility, aggressive development schedule, etc. Where Sony really lost it was in the companies leadership that drives their business.

So what does this have to do with PalmInfoCenter your Palm information source?

Palm One but more importantly Palm Source has lost it leadership and that is what is leading to our, the Palm USERS, problems.

Palm One has dropped the ball on wifi. That is correctable. For the most part Palm One has done a excellent job since the split and it is regretable to see the man responsible the last CEO, leave and be replaced by Ed Colligan the new CEO especially with such dubious reasons for leaving such as to pursue other projects and be with my family more or whatever the excuse was without moving into a new job right away. But hopefully Ed Colligan will take the Palm One plateform towards wifi and overcome Sprints and other wireless telcoms adversion to the disruptive technology, WIFI. I personally would deploy a new must have device with T-Mobile, sell a gillion of them with T-Mobile and wise up Sprint with an impressive number of units sold and simple ask them why they do not want a piece of it. But I also would have done that last year but it not to late.

But now here is the problem with the Palm OS. Palm One does not drive it as they have rumored they are going to pursue other OS, whatever that means.

PalmSource drives the Palm communities future. Other hardware manufactures can be found but the Palm economy lives or dies with PSRC.

So now we have PSRC who has had questionable leadership from the beginning of the split but which wasn't trutly revealed since this past year. During this last year the users, licensees, investors, employees, and the future of ease of usability have been lead off a cliff. And that man that has gotten us to this point is Nagel.

Remember Leadership drives software and software drives hardware which makes adoptable devices.

So now we have all witness 2004 mobile developments with Nagel at the helm. And I personally am less than impressed. We have seen a 60% loss in the IPO share value, the second biggest licensee-SONY drop the plateform, the misrelease of Cobalt to an abirtary self imposed deadline which lead to an use deployable product from the licensees point of views, the continual promise of Cobalt products only to be yet again disappointed time and time again by the mismanagment of the deployment, the continued unprofitability of the company, the inability to secure major licensees in relation to MSFT and Symbian, the lose of Garnet surfacing on any new smartphones other than the TREO, the signing of licenses so small that products are not produced, and the purchasing of a Chinese company who while with great potential and diversity of product has added additional expense to the PSRC financials without creating any new interest and capital influx.

Those were the cons and the pros are PSRC is further developing an expanded line of plateforms from the simplest feature phone to the most complex laptop replacement running Linux.

But the problem with the Pros is the development of the products in the face of today. The CMS development was a good long term project and will yield benefit if it can be realized. And that is the problem- IF IT CAN BE REALIZED? It is big question that will remain unanswered until it happens or it does not.

But what is happening today is the crappy MSFT Mobile 2003SE along with Symbian 7.0 is taking the market share in the smartphone arena faster than PSRC can compete. That is why PSRC has retreated to this feature phone talk because PSRC knows and understands this.

Garnet is not a bad OS. Look at all the great things that it has done since its deployment. But Cobalt is a great OS that has had realistically since Sept. 2004 but since Jan. 2004 for licensees to deploy in newly released and upcoming lines. Instead, licensees have adopted MSFT and Symbian. I have travelled the world in the last year from Europe to Asia and seen it for myself.

I have seen dozens of new phone personally that are incredible devices not available in the US that are running the wrong OS for me. I have read about dozens of new phones that are running the wrong OS. 35 in total! That is a huge number of new devices that are selling without PSRC being a part of it.

The point of PSRC spliting was not stock options and bonuses for those that did it. It was to get Garnet and Cobalt onto these new devices I have been seeing running the wrong OS.

And that is why I am discouraged with NAGELS abilities. Nagel failed at Apple. He admitted it and anyone can read about it here on PalmInfoCenter. I will get you the link in another post.

Nagel has also failed in my humble opinion at PSRC. He was suppose to have all this telephone inside connections and have lead this type of development before and was suppose to have this majic combination of phone and computer experience that was going to lead PSRC into this new smartphone arena away from the dieing unconnected PDA decline.

Well here we are a year and a huge lose later by all measures and we are headed towards what- the next development cycle that has no assurance of being any better than this past one.

Why would we want to follow that?

And for those of you who say that the leader can not control all the issues I have broached I just have to say that if the captain can not do it than nobody can because he can fire anyone he wants, promote anyone he wants, keep the course or change it as needed, and sail to clear towards clearer skys. Sony know this and PSRC is learning it the hard way.

NAGEL NEEDS TO GO!


RE: Why is this news here?
samagonistes @ 3/8/2005 3:12:47 AM # Q
benamy,
at the risk of seeming gushy, that has to be one of my all-time favorite posts on this board. thank you for a coherent, well-articulated and well-thought out response.

Sam

RE: Why is this news here?
Masamune @ 3/8/2005 4:15:52 AM # Q
Err just so you know, us luck Zodiac users can use the Sandisk Wifi card and its big brother the 256 Wifi crad.

RE: Why is this news here?
RhinoSteve @ 3/8/2005 2:15:10 PM # Q
Voice, if you knew who I really was, you wouldn't be so despondant in your drivel. In fact there was a bet for a drink at my fave bar on if you would be the first one to trash me. I won! FYI,the other guy was betting on Gekko. WiFi connections on Zod's are so useful!

Yes, I have contributed here in may ways. You and Gekko really need to get some more diversity in your life than doing direct/retail sales.

BubbaSteve, Secret Agent.
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 3/8/2005 8:44:05 PM # Q
Voice, if you knew who I really was...

We already know who you are. You're a useless piece of ****.





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Press release: CUPERTINO, California — February 11, 2005 — Apple® announced today that Steve Jobs will begin selling his own feces to Apple Cultists beginning March 1. Apple's new iPoo™ lineup is expected to easily surpass the iPod shuffle as the company's most popular product. Yes, Apple Cultists can already easily create their own iPoo™, but feces didn't seem cool until Jobs told them it was cool. Remember, kids: the ONLY cool feces is Jobs' highly individualistic, rebellious iPoo™ (coming soon in six different colors/flavors, including the red [hematochezia] and black [melena] U2 GI bleed model)

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RE: Why is this news here?
mikecane @ 3/9/2005 12:53:35 PM # Q
All of you get over it.

PDAs are dead.

I hope Ryan is thinking about the PIC Alumni Virtual Reunion in ten years time.

Hey, Ryan. Lose MY invite, OK?

RE: Why is this news here?
RhinoSteve @ 3/9/2005 3:04:48 PM # Q
Voice, isn't it time to do your floor shift now? You will never get it. Can you afford PalmSource this year or did you blow the travel money on too many DVDs bought at employee discount?
RE: Why is this news here?
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 3/9/2005 4:25:19 PM # Q
All of you get over it.

PDAs are dead.

I hope Ryan is thinking about the PIC Alumni Virtual Reunion in ten years time.

Hey, Ryan. Lose MY invite, OK?

Then why are you still here, Cane? Don't let the door hit you on the way out.







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Press release: CUPERTINO, California — February 11, 2005 — Apple® announced today that Steve Jobs will begin selling his own feces to Apple Cultists beginning March 1. Apple's new iPoo™ lineup is expected to easily surpass the iPod shuffle as the company's most popular product. Yes, Apple Cultists can already easily create their own iPoo™, but feces didn't seem cool until Jobs told them it was cool. Remember, kids: the ONLY cool feces is Jobs' highly individualistic, rebellious iPoo™ (coming soon in six different colors/flavors, including the red [hematochezia] and black [melena] U2 GI bleed model)

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RE: Why is this news here?
RhinoSteve @ 3/10/2005 2:44:44 PM # Q
Life Shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.
--Anais Nin
RE: Why is this news here?
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 3/10/2005 4:04:41 PM # Q
"Suck it, Baby!"

- John Holmes





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Press release: CUPERTINO, California — February 11, 2005 — Apple® announced today that Steve Jobs will begin selling his own feces to Apple Cultists beginning March 1. Apple's new iPoo™ lineup is expected to easily surpass the iPod shuffle as the company's most popular product. Yes, Apple Cultists can already easily create their own iPoo™, but feces didn't seem cool until Jobs told them it was cool. Remember, kids: the ONLY cool feces is Jobs' highly individualistic, rebellious iPoo™ (coming soon in six different colors/flavors, including the red [hematochezia] and black [melena] U2 GI bleed model)

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RE: Why is this news here?
RhinoSteve @ 3/10/2005 9:41:28 PM # Q
Keep digging that hole. Soon enough you won't make it out by yourself.
Next on Fox: Grandmas Gone Wild
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 3/10/2005 11:15:12 PM # Q
Since Sony pulled out of the Palm OS market why is this being reported here? Any news from Sony should be personana non grata as far as this web site goes.






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Press release: CUPERTINO, California — February 11, 2005 — Apple® announced today that Steve Jobs will begin selling his own feces to Apple Cultists beginning March 1. Apple's new iPoo™ lineup is expected to easily surpass the iPod shuffle as the company's most popular product. Yes, Apple Cultists can already easily create their own iPoo™, but feces didn't seem cool until Jobs told them it was cool. Remember, kids: the ONLY cool feces is Jobs' highly individualistic, rebellious iPoo™ (coming soon in six different colors/flavors, including the red [hematochezia] and black [melena] U2 GI bleed model)

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RE: Why is this news here?
RhinoSteve @ 3/11/2005 2:29:09 PM # Q
Q.E.D.
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Goodbye, Stringer

mikecane @ 3/8/2005 12:56:46 PM # Q
He'll be gone in six months. I hope he negotiated one of those PalmSource/palmOne-like Golden Parachutes...

The gaijin won't accomplish a thing.

RE: Goodbye, Stringer
RhinoSteve @ 3/8/2005 2:12:55 PM # Q
Mike you are so right. I totally think this is a classic Zabatsu fall guy set-up. Stringer in my mind is a patsy that will have every problem inside Sony blamed on him in the next year and then will be thrown out like a golden fleece. I just hope he gets out without using a sepiku blade.
Let's all drop some Japanese words...
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 3/8/2005 8:29:48 PM # Q
More likely he'll make an epic Kurosawa-style bukkake film with BubbaSteve's oh-so-young creampie wife.





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Press release: CUPERTINO, California — February 11, 2005 — Apple® announced today that Steve Jobs will begin selling his own feces to Apple Cultists beginning March 1. Apple's new iPoo™ lineup is expected to easily surpass the iPod shuffle as the company's most popular product. Yes, Apple Cultists can already easily create their own iPoo™, but feces didn't seem cool until Jobs told them it was cool. Remember, kids: the ONLY cool feces is Jobs' highly individualistic, rebellious iPoo™ (coming soon in six different colors/flavors, including the red [hematochezia] and black [melena] U2 GI bleed model)

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RE: Goodbye, Stringer
mikecane @ 3/9/2005 12:49:57 PM # Q
It's no surprise that you know about bukkake. You probably came up with that disgusting idea.

RE: Goodbye, Stringer
RhinoSteve @ 3/9/2005 3:07:04 PM # Q
Voice, what are you hiding to be so critical of me? Man, quit that retail job, lay off the porn and get some real dates after you loose a few dozen pounds in weight. Go Atkins!
RE: Goodbye, Stringer
RhinoSteve @ 3/10/2005 2:45:16 PM # Q
Life Shrinks or expands in proportion to one's courage.
--Anais Nin
Way over the line
twrock @ 3/10/2005 6:26:51 PM # Q
I have no idea why Ryan let's this kind of personal attack "spewage" go on, so for what it's worth, let me simply voice my disgust with it.

Inflammatory, Inappropriate, Illegal, Inane or Offensive comments may be edited/deleted. Really? When?

RE: Goodbye, Stringer
RhinoSteve @ 3/10/2005 9:42:39 PM # Q
Tw, I'm in total agreement. Surprised someone didn't take the account name here "BubbaSteve" and grogged on that.
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Sony's Stomach Will Roast in Hell for this!

mikecane @ 3/8/2005 5:52:40 PM # Q
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml%3Bjsessionid=5Z5TVEDJZBCRUQSNDBCCKHSCJUMEKJVN?articleID=60407708

>>>PARIS — Howard Stringer's ascension to CEO at Sony Corp. dramatically displaces his predecessor, Nobuyuki Idei, but a more significant casualty of the executive shakeup might well be Ken Kutaragi, the outspoken executive who confounded many experts by turning Sony into a heavyweight in the video game market with the invention of PlayStation.

>>>Under the new regime, Kutaragi, once widely rumored as a potential successor to Idei, will step down from Sony Corp.'s board.

>>>Kutaragi will be also stripped of his title as president of Sony's home electronics and semiconductor divisions, a powerful position he took over only a year ago. Kutaragi's new role within Sony now reverts to that of a group executive officer running Sony's game division.

RE: Great move by Sony!
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 3/8/2005 10:58:29 PM # Q
It's about time someone put that little primadonna, Kutaragi, in his place. His head's been getting a bit too big to fit inside Sony's corporate HQ. Time to eat some humble pie, Kutaragi-san.

Only problem is now we'll have to endure more overwrought weeping from the president of the Kutaragi Klub: Fanboy Cane.

Maybe now Sony will finally unleash that OLED-screened UX100 that had been rumored to be arriving this Spring. F that PSP toy. CLIEs are for adults, PSPs are for kids™. You silly rabbit.





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Press release: CUPERTINO, California — February 11, 2005 — Apple® announced today that Steve Jobs will begin selling his own feces to Apple Cultists beginning March 1. Apple's new iPoo™ lineup is expected to easily surpass the iPod shuffle as the company's most popular product. Yes, Apple Cultists can already easily create their own iPoo™, but feces didn't seem cool until Jobs told them it was cool. Remember, kids: the ONLY cool feces is Jobs' highly individualistic, rebellious iPoo™ (coming soon in six different colors/flavors, including the red [hematochezia] and black [melena] U2 GI bleed model)

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RE: Sony's Stomach Will Roast in Hell for this!
mikecane @ 3/9/2005 12:51:28 PM # Q
Man, give up your CLIE dreams. Didn't your doc give you that prescription for CLIEnay yet?

Kutaragi will rise again.

I just hope to hell it isn't at Microsoft!

RE: Sony's Stomach Will Roast in Hell for this!
The_Voice_of_Reason @ 3/9/2005 4:20:50 PM # Q
By next year, Kutaragi will be lucky if he can even get a job working in your local mall Sony Store. More likely he'll be asking you "Would you like fries with that?". His career just went down in flames.

Fanboy Cane: Your idol is toast.





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Press release: CUPERTINO, California — February 11, 2005 — Apple® announced today that Steve Jobs will begin selling his own feces to Apple Cultists beginning March 1. Apple's new iPoo™ lineup is expected to easily surpass the iPod shuffle as the company's most popular product. Yes, Apple Cultists can already easily create their own iPoo™, but feces didn't seem cool until Jobs told them it was cool. Remember, kids: the ONLY cool feces is Jobs' highly individualistic, rebellious iPoo™ (coming soon in six different colors/flavors, including the red [hematochezia] and black [melena] U2 GI bleed model)

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Samsung is now what Sony once was

mikecane @ 3/13/2005 1:29:28 PM # Q
Sony's humiliation is now complete.

http://tinyurl.com/5srkb

RE: Samsung is now what Sony once was
mikecane @ 3/13/2005 1:39:20 PM # Q
And palmOne continues to dream...

>>>In cell phones, Samsung's clamshell designs, clear displays and strong computing power have emboldened the company to set a worldwide 2005 sales goal of 100 million handsets, 16 percent more than last year's sales. Such an increase in sales could pull Samsung close to the industry's second-largest cell phone producer, Motorola, an American company that sold 104.1 million handsets last year.

...and to flail.

RE: Samsung is now what Sony once was
mikecane @ 3/13/2005 1:41:27 PM # Q
Now WTF would Samsung *ever* want to release a PalmOS cellphone?

>>>In South Korea, Samsung unveiled on Wednesday the world's first mobile phone with a powerful 7-megapixel camera. By comparison, many digital cameras feature 3 or 4 megapixels. In an example of technological convergence, this high-end handset, SCH-V770, is Internet-capable and has an MP3 player and a business card reader.

-- it'd be a step backward!

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