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Two Tungsten T5 thick
Ouch, that seams awfully thick. Now, I have had two Tungsten T's in one pocket before, both in hard cases, so this does seam to be a possible size, but not very practical.
Now, it could be that early prototypes were this thick, but the actual device will be more in line with typical PDA sizes.
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No mention of the screen, either. If it's to replace the TC -- another SSS (Small Square Screen)?
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Yes, it has occurred to me that others may need sophisticated communication capabilities. In fact, there seem to be daily complaints about p1's efforts in this department.
That's my point. All those tedious complaints seem to proceed on the basis that everyone wants WiFi/etc and that a palmpilot without such features is next to useless.
I don't agree. Speaking for myself, such gadgets have no utility in day-to-day life (although they may be fun to play with for a while) and I don't see why I should pay for something which likely I will never use. I don't think I am on my own here - some of the best selling units in recent years have no wireless communication facilities at all (excluding IR, that is) - take the TE for instance.
If p1 is sensible, they will continue to offer a range of palmpilots - some with elaborate wireless facilities; some without.
To repeat, I do appreciate that some users (at least those how post regularly on PIC) demand WiFi, but it's not for everyone.
There is marketing angle to consider too. The palmpilot market is pretty crowded. The challenge faced by p1 is to demonstrate to prospective customers how their products are better and cheaper than all the rest. Adopting a policy of merely adding features which others have is probably not the best approach when it comes to product differentiation - 'me too' does not mean 'I'm better' (as Sony's failure demonstrates).
Different strokes for different folks...
RE: I'll try not to look a gift horse in the mouth
RE: I'll try not to look a gift horse in the mouth
If you can't handle people who disagree with you, I suggest you unplug your Internet connection, and invest in a nice close-fitting hood that covers your eyes and blocks your ears.
You might even find that you like it.
Too good to be true
The world will end in 2006. Just as it was predicted in the bible along with the release of Microsoft Longhorn.... :p
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Will almost certainly use Cobalt
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That said, if this were to come out with Garnet, palmOne will get a stern talking to from my mommy.
antoinerjwright.com
RE: Will almost certainly use Cobalt
Cobalt is Nagel's other bastard child that nobody wants (Copland being the other one).
RE: Will almost certainly use Cobalt
I think that Cobalt will be needed for FAT32 support....
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RE: Will almost certainly use Cobalt
1) Can you imagine the HD support nightmares?
2) Do you want to have to wait for someone to come out with a POS version of, say, ScanDisk? Or Norton Utilities?
RE: Will almost certainly use Cobalt
Why, though, would you put Wifi and Bluetooth on a Media player though?
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Why put WiFi in the PSP?
In fact, there's a GREAT reason for a media player to have WiFi: **P2P**! LimeWire, for example, is written in Java! Get it up on PalmOS, boys! Me want my new Doctor Who episodes!!!
RE: Will almost certainly use Cobalt
For this device there is practically no tailoring of the OS involved (unlike the Palm OS for a smartphone, WHICH PalmSource has continually ignored). It should be pretty easy to incorporate.
And it will give the Treo users Wi-Fi like Palm has promised at Roadshows. To bad it isn't built in like every Treo user seems to want. But this way is better, right? Because now Treo users get to fork over another five-hu... I mean now they get 2 cool devices to carr... wait, no, I mean now they get wi-fi.
It would be quite useful. And I strongly suspect that Cobalt will be used to enable simultaneous use of Bluetooth 1.2 WITH wi-fi. Wi-fi access broadcast to your Bluetooth Treo, Tungsten or Zire (or, I suppose you could probably plug it in directly to the Treo too, if you wanted to bother digging the Life Drive out of your briefcase or pocket). Yippee! And wait, that's right. Remember how the new connector can pipe enough power to run and slowly trickle charge the Treo and the T5. Well that will come in handy with the iLife Drive and its huge battery, giving you an extra bit of "life" for your Treo once the battery charge has run down.
Anyway, it does seem odd that they will be expecting Treo users to purchase a second Palm device to carry around.
RE: Will almost certainly use Cobalt
1) Can you imagine the HD support nightmares?
2) Do you want to have to wait for someone to come out with a POS version of, say, ScanDisk? Or Norton Utilities?"
Your're right. I run ScanDisk and Norton Utilities on my 40GB iPod all the time.
/sarcasm
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You need to convert it to FAT32 for use under Linux as well.
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Nah, I had it on my HandEra 330 eons ago.
"Your're right. I run ScanDisk and Norton Utilities on my 40GB iPod all the time."
1. That wouldn't happen to be an HFS+ formatted ipod though would it?
2. Unlike PalmOS devices thus far, your ipod actually does have a disk check/repair app built into it.
As it is, it's a bit of a pain when my SD card goes south. No disk util on the Palm. fsck_msdos isn't fully complete in 10.3 on the Mac, so that's no dice. And Linux only sees the CF slot on my multi-slot card reader. So I have to dual-boot it into win98 just to run sandisk, which is about all I keep the '98 partition on there for. All told it's easier to just keep regular backups of the card to an SMB share on either the Linux of Mac boxes. Then when the SD card goes south, I just format it and copy the content back over WiFi (Tungsten C and SMBMate).
RE: Will almost certainly use Cobalt
It'll have a non-removable battery, too, just like the iPod.
RE: Will almost certainly use Cobalt
How sad. Larry Garfield is the only hard hitting journalist
I thought he was a pipsqueek back when we were both using TRGpros and HandEra's, but I gotta hand it to him: he's one of the only people writing about Palms now that has the guts to tell it like it is.
It would be nice to see Larry get a regular monthly column here at PIC to keep us updated on what's going on in the PalmOS world from his perspective. Congratulations on becoming a he11 of a Palm journalist, Larry.
TVoR
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not interesting actually
100Gb in double T5 size is being sold for 3 months in shop near my office. Linux and WiFi there already. It records TV and playes Divx for 5 hours on one charge. It has organizers and office docs working.
Samsung had working 95g phone on Cebit, with 2Gb HDD.
So this Life Drive could only be interesting, if it's less than 180g weight. or it is dead before release.
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I think the Archos uses the same HWR the Zaurus used. If this is so, it offers one thing this "LifeDrive" cannot -- CLASSIC GRAFFITI (not by default; you have to modify the built-in characters).
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I was all set to start migrating from the T3 to this "LifeDrive" until I saw the thickness! Add a case to that thing and it IS a brick--right up there with the NR/NX series Sonys! Non-removable battery is the definite deal-breaker. Heck, I could have lived with a T|C formfactor with an elongated 320*480 screen that was a touch smaller in actual size than the T3/T5.
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I am very skeptical about this having an HD in it. We recently had those headlines here at PIC about the multi-GB FRAM chips. I suspect it'll actually have that. The thickness is most likely due to a *battery*, *not* an HD.
Hey, if you could watch a full ripped DVD on a transatlantic flight and *still not have to recharge upon landing*, would you think that thickness was worth it?
*&^%##@ I gotta start saving pennies Just In Case...
HEY! SOMEONE START A PETITION TO XEROX, DAMMIT!
RE: not interesting actually
Dell and HP models already have dual wireless with an empty slot just waiting for your choice of Multi-GB drives, and yet already get longer battery life (with larger batteries) in a smaller package than my Tungsten C.
Anyway, not going to pass judgment until it's announced. The size won't surprise me though. PalmOne only manages small when it's comparatively under-spec'd.
RE: not interesting actually
Petition PalmOne/PalmSource.
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PalmOS on Archos
woohoo!
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Why not petition Xerox?! p1 is still apparently shaking from that lawsuit! Else we would have gotten G1 at least as an option from *them*! (Come on, how hard is it to offer G1/G2 toggle? PPC offers several HWRs built-in!)
As for the Archos running Palmix -- I doubt that would happen with a simple OS swap. The Linux hounds would probably have to come up with some glue code. Of course, Archos could just go ahead and *license* Palmix... in my dreams!
RE: not interesting actually
I wasn't moaning & groaning too loudly when the Zire 71 & T|C came out in spring '03 with G2 because:
A. I figured someone would offer (either Palm or a 3rd party) a downloadable plug-in that overwrote the G2 libraries
B. I still had my T|T at the time
So not only have we continually been let down by P1 but by ALL of the third party software houses out there. It sickens me to see the Palm Apologists tell me "G2 isn't bad at all", "Tealscript is da bomb" and "Why bother appealing to Xerox? The case is over" SO...I am still awaiting the official PR from P1, an official announcement on the outcome and how pleased they are to have Graffiti Classic back into the fold or at least that they would rather ignore 1996-2002 entirely and leave their long-time users out to dry by EOLing G1 entirely.
For further ranting on this issue from my end, see my post under the news item from 2 days ago--"P1 Online Store Special Offers"
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Everylime L try G2, my senlences wlnd up looklng llke shll.
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Mike (and the other PIC faithful), your thoughts as to why the weak-kneed, yellow-bellied P1 developer community seems SO willing to take on Nintendo & Sega's armies of lawyers with various emulators on POS yet no one will try to work out a legit, downloadable for $, licensed, plugin for G1?
Heck, even make it available for several different platforms or offer a cheap ($10) bare-bones, striaght up G1 repalcement, then a tweakable enhanced "G1+" that integrates the functionality of crossing over, jot (onscreen ink), tweakable characters (TealScript) etc etc. The amount of $ to be made from such a project might be only middling but the enormous amount of good press & customer loyalty garnered by the developer that does this properly could stand to be ENORMOUS!
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Why haven't we seen a POS version of Calligrapher? I asked them. They replied with the truth: The license MS has from them for Transcriber is EXCLUSIVE. They are FORBIDDEN to port to non-PPC (ie, non-WinCE) PDA platforms. (Now, if they can only weasel out of that by porting to *Linux*....)
You can bet your firstborn MS made the same deal with Xerox. We will NEVER see G1 again unless *p1* does it. Colligan: DELIGHT THE CUSTOMER again!!
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MikeCon - don't blame MSFT for negotiating GOOD DEALS. Blame Nagel for his incompetence and lack of balls.
RE: not interesting actually
Maybe Nagel can cut a deal. But does Xerox *need* POS for *anything*? Copier OS?
I don't blame Gates. I blame the desperate and stupid companies for *accepting* his terms.
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Don't go letting the lack of a Hardware Abstraction Layer stop you or anything...
"A. I figured someone would offer (either Palm or a 3rd party) a downloadable plug-in that overwrote the G2 libraries "
They kind of did though. The instructions are everywhere, including PalmInfocenter. I've been using Graffiti 1 on my Tungsten C since day one.
What's unclear is from here forward. I gather you can't perform the same trick on the T5, and it's contemporaries.
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A. A paid-for-download plugin
B. That is not of dubious legality/morality
C. Supported by the publisher & professionally packaged/polished (ie not requiring Filez to install it).
D. Fully integrated into the various of POS OS 5.2 & above and not flaky acting with 480*320 landscape, writing onscreen etc.
E. (Ideally) compatible with Garmin, Zodiac, Clies etc & not just P1-branded Tungstens & Zires.
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Graffiti Reinvented and Replaced
Replace Graffiti 1 or Graffiti 2 with TealScript, the text recognition system you can customize. Unlike Graffiti or other systems, TealScript lets you make or change your own strokes for better speed and accuracy.
http://www.tealpoint.com/softscrp.htm
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"Everylime L try G2, my senlences wlnd up looklng llke shll."
If you learn to dot your I's, you'll be fine. Remedial penmanship? There's got to be a city center in NYC where you could take courses...
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KIRVIN USES FITALY, *not* G2!
Tap *that*, Jeff! Ha!
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A. Adopt to G2
B. Buy/try Tealscript. Tealscript is PURE RUBBISH. G2 is ALSO RUBBISH. TealScript's "imitation" of G1 is a joke and I spent HOURS UPON HOURS tweaking it last year. I am positive it hasn't gotten any better since I last tried it back in January. I certainly hope you pasted TealPoint's propaganda & link there as a joke to Mike Cane and myself.
It'd be like me telling you to buy a T5 because your T3 just died and you cannot find any new ones for sale anywhere.
FYI, I WILL go on record as being a Graffiti 1 apologist & fanatic. I REFUSE to change and will go to a mini keyboard before I will give in to G2 and its mind-numbing amount of strokes (ever tied to make a # in G2? BAHH!)
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hkk - first and foremost, I'm a REALIST. Do I greatly prefer G1 over everything? YES. But the point is that we now have no option to use G1 post-T3. SOOOO being a realist, I have to use the next closest thing to G1 - and unfortunately, that leaves only TealScript. We can biitch and complain all we want, but G1 is gone whether we like it or not. YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE CARDS YOU'RE DEALT.
RE: not interesting actually
b!tching and moaning since spring '03 (when the first units shipped with that miserable G2 pre-installed) has been for SOMEONE out there to hear and take a stand against G2 and P1's disdain for customer loyalty. There's gotta be some developer out there with more programming skills than you or I that could hack up some G1 libraries that will work reliably in 320*480 devices post-T3, in OS 5.2.8+ and under Cobalt.
I won't use TealScript because I refuse to support a company that is essentially within striking distance of the bullseye but refuses to just strip out all of the bullshiiit from their program and reduce it to a core set of AUTHENTIC G1 libraries and nothing more. The "legacy profile" available on their site is still a joke compared to the bliss I used to experience on my T|T.
OR some enterprising small company could try and license the G1 libraries from Xerox (because Graffiti, or the single-stroke character set that Xerox claims to own, is an IP that currently isn't earning them a PENNY of revenue right now and something is better than nothing to a company in Xerox's current position) and offer them for sale as a legit, legal, supported plug-in or download. I'd gladly pay $50 right now for such a beast. Developers, are you listening!?!
IMO, all of these fool's errands such as Gameboy emulation, wi-fi drivers on Treos, and CF storage drivers on Clies pale in comparison to the HUGELY pressing need to restore the input method that brought fame & glory to Palm Computing. From 1996-2002 it was the ONLY choice on the US, early Treos aside, and should not just be relegated to the landfill of tech history. Graffiti 1 deserves a 2nd lease on life not only for historical sake but simply because SCORES of users find it a better system!
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Some talking points:
Feasibility on OS5 vs. Cobalt devices? What is keeping the developer community from doing something--marketplace apathy, developer disinterest at an EOL'd method of input, legal threats from P1/Xerox (or both)?
You guys took on Psygnosis/Sony & Nintendo's armies of lawyers head to head. Surely Xerox cannot be any worse, can it?
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Your zeal has affected your memory. Xerox *is* making money off it -- from each *PPC* sale. MS has a license -- and you can bet it's probably an exclusive (just like with Caligrapher/Transcriber). I wouldn't be surprised if some financial assistance came from MS in the suit against Palm. Maybe this is a job for Open Source? Let Xerox try to sue a global collection of devs in many countries...
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Switching from G2 to G1 on newer PDAs
G2 is crap, and don't get me started about TealSh!!t, but remember: a lot of new PDA users just don't know any better or will adapt. The number of hardcore G1 fans that would be willing to pay for a G1 substitute is pretty small. This G1 hack will most likely be done as a labor of love by a 1337 person who will then "accidentally" let this "research" project slip into the wild, Liberty-style. The Treo community knows all about how to hack software restrictions to pieces. (shadowmite, EuroCLIE, Mol: take a bow.)
Don't waste your time appealing to |HaCkMe| - he's gone legit and is now far too soft to do the kind of hacking you're asking for. It can be done, though. If PIC (indirecly, of course!) was to allow users to "pledge" $$$ to a developer to hack G1, you might be pleasantly surprised...
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Sony CLIE UX100: 128 MB real RAM, OLED screen. All the PDA anyone really ever wanted.
RE: not interesting actually
TealScript is great
But even TealScript's G1 emulation seemed pretty good. If you don't like its version of G1, just create your own: it takes little more than about 100 strokes to tell it exactly how you write G1 letters.
Mini DV cam form factor?
This would be the stated thickness, but would still be a desirable form factor for a videocam/digicam/mp3/movie player gadget. It could also hold a big battery, which is going to be essential for this thing.
OTOH, if the thing is just a one inch thick PDA, forget it.
Jon Acheson
"All opinions posted are my own, and not those of my employers, who are appalled."
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RE: Mini DV cam form factor?
What the hell was my hand thinking?
RE: photo with T5 ?
Are you telling me that's a sneak peek from our great Chinese spy kids?!
So, not only does p1 intend to offer the Video iPod that Apple has disdained -- but, yecch!, they are going to *color* it *white* like an iPod too?!
I can alread see the PPC weenies crowing: "p1's White Elephant!"
Authenticity?
FrankenPalm
It looks like FrankenPalm. Hey - if it has plenty of **REGULAR** RAM (64 MB+) and a G1 Option and a 4GB HD and NO BUGS and SOLID Build - I'll buy one for $500! But I won't run out and be the first beta tester like I was with the T5.
RE: photo with T5 ?
Or knowing our Chinese spy kids friends, they are letting out some leash until the Time Is Right.
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The dimensons seem to be a T5 in the palmOne alumnium case in terms of thickness, so it cannot be too bad. Just for those folks who will want to put a case on it ;)
Who cares...we will see...God and palmOne only knows...and Mike C. and Gekko will debate about it...one review will be late and good, the rest early and so-so..in the end a ton of people here will at least try it and find that it is not Palm-enough...at least that is what I think ;)
[that would make a great signature]
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http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/2522853428563628.JPG
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And no, the mention of the Casio in that post (and I looked at them all) was part of one of those stupid dick-swinging sigs people set up that list their PDA "genealogy."
RE: photo with T5 ?
Come on, I don't think it'll be a brick. The original Casio E-125 (I think it was) -- now THERE was a brick! I'd expect a unit as fat as a TE *with its cover flap* added.
BTW, does anyone else here not like the LifeDrive name?
Naming Contest!
LD Command Bar vs T5?
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Nope no new buttons on the stat bar. Bluetooth button but no wifi. I hope its a fake. Its got to be. Please! NO MORE GARNET!
RE: photo with T5 ?
Same icon set as the T3. Don't know how it compares to the T5 set.
RE: photo with T5 ?
Hmmmm.... Velde -- V = Video?
A ghastly name! Eejits kept calling the CLIE the "Klee." I can see them saying "Veal-Dee" or "Vel-Dee."
Of course Masamune had a good one with P1MP (Palm 1 Media Player). Nice ad taglines: "P1MP your media!" "P1MP it good!" "Get P1MPed." (Yeah, I know: Oh, beHAVE!)
RE: photo with T5 ?
Yes, its a fake. Even a professional in graphic design knows that black on the sunlight side of the device isnt the same intensity as black on the shade side [looking at the black rim around the screen in various points].
Screen shot is simulated and then pasted onto it.
Design is like a larger iPod. The connector could very well be the Athena, but looks a touch misshaped.
The left most buttons should not be tinted the same way, even with that mysterous white box over the image. Makes me think that this was photoshopped in a few ways. Yet, there is no image info on none of these pics that I have found online to indicate anything other than stock creation.
If the 5 way was bigger, then this would be a nice device. As it stands, there would be quite a few complainers about not being able to game nicely. Come to think of it, that sounds just like the T3 spy photo comments...makes ya think a bit dont it.
antoinerjwright.com
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And now that I think more abuot it, I could have sworn that this image came out not long before the T3 came out, if not soon after. Hey I coudl be wrong, but thats what happens when u rely on that photo memory.
antoinerjwright.com
RE: photo with T5 ?
Brighthand is reporting late April release/announce for *$500*. I don't think so. Just $100 above the T5? Could the T5 drop in price maybe? More likely this will go higher...
RE: photo with T5 ?
this FrankenPalmT2005 looks REAL.
http://www.brighthand.com/images/palmOne_LifeDrive_Ru_1_L.jpg
This graphic was ripped from P1's promotional materials/future product site - this is not a real picture - they don't use real pics for promotional materials anyway so that makes sense!
1. I hope the 32 MB is *REAL* RAM and Satan has giving up pushing NVFS.
2. As far as Graffiti 2, I can get by with Tealscript as a replacement for G1.
WIFI included too?
This would all be too good to be true. After the TERRIBLE T5, it's amazing that they can come up with this all of a sudden!
Hey - I give credit where credit is due - if this is real - congrats to P1 for gettung their shiit together! I might just buy this F**KER!!!!!!!!!!
RE: photo with T5 ?
Go below and see the active threads about the open questions.
And yes, you WILL buy it, if only to tear into it for a few hours while we bombard you with questions.
RE: photo with T5 ?
Time is money, pal. You know I DO have an empire that ocassionally needs my full attention for the whole day. I'm late to this party.
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POS media player
http://www.palmopensource.com/index.php3?more=668
Someone test and report back.
RE: POS media player
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RE: POS media player
It's based on the open-source "Pheonity" icon set.
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RE: POS media player
This is why I cringe whenever I see the words, "Open Source." I'm running Forefox and am getting so fed up I'm thinking of dumping it for IE.
RE: POS media player
Oh, and get Opera.
RE: POS media player
Excellent!
Offering interactive choices is good.
E-T
e-tellurian
completing the e-com circle with a people driven we-com solution
Story name change?!
RE: Story name change?!
I think everyone here should give Ryan a standing ovation. While the rest of us did nothing but b*tch about p1, he kept the faith and kept PIC going.
Three cheers to Ryan!
RE: Story name change?!
Yes - Cheers to Ryan for running a great site - but FrankenPalm is still just fun and games and shiits and giggles vaporware at the moment. Some people still believe in Bigfoot, UFOs, and the Loch Ness Monster - and have "pictures" to back up their claims.
We don't know for sure if this animal as rumored exists. Let's save the champagne-popping until after the device/specs are truly confirmed.
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
Anyway, take a look at these two photos:
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Myster/23684/405727/0/Photo_0.jpg
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Myster/23684/405728/0/Photo_1.jpg
Could be fake, but surely they look similar to the other photo that recently appeared, although the logos are in different places, and there's a TUNGSTEN logo on the top.
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
It's not white!
Don't know about the sunken-ness of that screen and the seemingly hard lip around it. And is it cheeeep plastic or metal?
As for the trademark, that link is a dead session. This is what I found:
Word Mark LIFEDRIVE
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: computer hardware, software and peripherals and manuals sold therewith; computer hardware and software for use in accessing, storing, managing, synchronizing, transferring, transporting and sharing digital information and files over the global communications network and other networks and/or between computers, electronic organizers, electronic notepads, mobile telephones and pagers, PIMs, PDAs and mobile computing and communications devices; computer software for use in accessing, storing, managing, synchronizing, transferring, transporting and sharing music, photos, videos, address books, calendars, e-mail, PIM data, PDA data, office and personal documents, streamed and multimedia information and files over the global communications network and other networks and/or between computers, electronic organizers, mobile telephones and pagers, PIMs, PDAs and mobile computing and communications devices; computer software for synchronization of data, information and files, for mobile communications and computing, for personal information management, database management and synchronization, for character recognition, and for secure data access, storage and transfer; computer software for web publishing, providing alerts to various informational and environmental conditions, for accessing, browsing and searching online databases, for data and file backup and storage, and for duplicate file management across multiple devices; telephony management software; electronic mail and messaging software, paging software, and manuals provided therewith
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 78474731
Filing Date August 27, 2004
Current Filing Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Owner (APPLICANT) palmOne, Inc. CORPORATION DELAWARE 400 N. McCarthy Blvd. Milpitas CALIFORNIA 95035
Attorney of Record Connie L. Ellerbach
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
if it IS real, this flies in the face of all of the palm apologists like kirvin who say "keep it simple for the masses - they don't want features" or fail. kirvin is on record as saying this is a fake. so is foo (although foo is no apologist). looks like they're both wrong.
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
But I like the fact p1 is *finally* giving UberUsers *some* damned thing -- and beyond what I expected too.
No, to see the *specs* and the Thing Itself!
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
he said it in a podcast.
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
Love the trademark info. Someone's head will roll for that being found.
I sharpened and did some otherworldly things to to pics and found a few things. Either a case of good painted plastic, or some very nice brushed alumium. Screen size is about the same size as my T5; makes that 5way quite finder friendly because of size and placement. All the same icons that are on the T5 are there. Add about a half inch to the width of the T5, and maybe the same in height. Seems abuot the size of my T5 when it is in my Piel Frama case (aka nice and pocketable). I do wonder what Air SAM and Air SAMPrv are, probably some service/app that deals with syncing/downloading/finding hotspots/etc.
Whomever provided the pics, much thanks.
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RE: LifeDrive Trademark
Ah, Gekko, that explains why I didn't see it. I don't do podcasts (Jeff knows this).
4/18?! FEK! Gotta dig up the money Just In Case.
Now I suppose I also have to get a 1GB SD too? Have to put some massive videos on it so I can *test* them...
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
Nah. It's public records. Just like the FCC docs that sometimes leak out because they forgot to specifically request privacy.
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-- emailing my bill to palmOne... hah!
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
Any word on this thing having an SD slot?
It's the data, stupid.
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
At the top of the latest pic of the whole device it says Tungsten "something." I cannot make out if it is a C2 or T7 as they can look quite similar given that there is a lot of fuzzy at the top of the pic. My guess so far is T7 (hence the design that is an evolved T3.
The pic that shows the info screen seems to Tungsten T7, but I cannot tell as there is too much play in the light there. There is a slant that is reminicent of a 7, but that could be a 2 as well since what could be the bottom part of the 2 is a blurry area.
Life Drive is the code name for sure. T7 is my guess.
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RE: LifeDrive Trademark
I saw the Tungsten name up there too. Maybe that's just a T next to it?
The screen shot I see says Copy with Handheld listed in the first drop down.
I like this SAM business. Always wanted Surface to Air Missile capability in a PDA! This is the UBERUberUser's PDA!
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
Since the other picture had a favourites menu, maybe this is just a photshopped T5 screen....
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
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The plot thickens!! =D
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~Tony
Pilot --> V --> m505 --> Tungsten T3
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
This isn't really targeted at PDA users. It's not a geek PDA. It's a Palm OS based media player. Entirely different focus.
And why does this have WiFi when none of the other recent Palms do? In a word, streaming.
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
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RE: LifeDrive Trademark
It's the data, stupid.
RE: LifeDrive Trademark
"computer hardware, software and peripherals and manuals sold therewith; computer hardware and embedded software for use in accessing, storing, managing, synchronizing, transferring, transporting and sharing digital information, files, folders, music, photos, videos, address books, calendars, e-mail, PIM data, PDA data, office and personal documents, and streamed and multimedia information between computers, electronic organizers, electronic notepads, mobile telephones and pagers, PIMs, PDAs and mobile computing and communications devices; computer software for communicating between mobile computing and/or communications devices and desktop computers"
I like the email and videos part. Makes me think that palmOne will actually trump the market once again (see the TC and T3 for the last trumping - Treo was Handspring's idea folded in so it doesnt count).
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RE: LifeDrive Trademark
p1 has licensed from MS already for server stuff, I think. I hope they will announce they have licensed WMV and WMA, even if they have to play through a p1 Media Player and not a ported-by-MS WMP.
That makes no difference to me, though. I'll use ASF, MPEG, MP3, and the odd OGG and Real file... which is the same stuff many PPC owners use too.
palmOne ID mojo is back!
http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/dell-x50v-review.html
and then look at this:
http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/Myster/23684/405727/0/Photo_0.jpg
Makes you kinda feel sorry for Dell and hp, no?
>maniacal laughter<
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
But I do have a similar gripe. I HATE REAL PLAYER. Palm, if you're making such a good PDA, please drop that dinky realplayer. I know an iTunes port is too much to ask, but if this is shaping up to be what it could be, RealPlayer is an insult.
And I hope they put a better amp in this than the T5, which hisses through headphones something terrible.
It's the data, stupid.
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
You don't *have* to use Real. Besides, with the T5 they instituted their own Media Player.
Besides, Pocket Tunes is still the best for audio. And I think we'll all be queueing up to get MMPlayer for video now...
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
But I don't see how they can faithfully market this as an MP3 player if they package with that stupid realplayer.
It's just like your gripe with G2 - sure you can spend 20 or 30 bucks to get something that works better, but you shouldn't *have* to.
It's the data, stupid.
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
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RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
Media doesnt
Media isnt on your TE, it is on the T5/Z72/Treo650 and the Tungsten T7 in the pic above (I am calling it T7 after my observations detailed above).
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RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
No, not really. Why would it?
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
Actually, no. You're logic escapes me. If you think this "LifeDrive" is so great, YOU are the one who needs design classes. If the LD is really that thick, no serious user will buy it. If PPC devices can have dual slots (CF & SD), plus Wifi and bluetooth, and do so without being nearly 2 standard pdas thick, then why can't P1? Yes, I like the idea of the massive internal storage, but that's about it. Your blind loyalty to P1 is exactly the kind of loyalty that P1 WANTS so they can go ahead and make pdas that are generally inferior.
All good things...
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
Obviously someone who got off the beatem path and is encountering my comments for the first time. My "blind loyalty" to p1? HAHAHAHA. Hey, Gekko, can you get a load of that? HAHAHAHAHA.
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
MikeCon is fickle. A few days ago P1 was going to go bankrupt. Now today P1 is going to rule the world. Diary of a Madman.
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
BTW, that hp is *not* such a brick (although it *is* uglier *than*). As I stated months ago, I held it up to my GENIO at PC Expo and it's not that much larger. So if you think the LD being the size of that hp is somehow going to frighten me... feh!
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
A good design is one that takes up the minimum neccessary space, has clean and smooth lines, and has the most appealing styling. A good design should look good, feel good in the hand, and be shaped for its purpose. For examples of good designs, see the Axim X50v, Apple iPod, and IBM Thinkpad. Examples of bad designs: The HP Photosmart 318 digital camera, the iPaq rz1715, and the Hitachi G1000.
I'm not saying that this thing is bad, neccessarily. But it does have an unappealing design. If it's as large and thick as it's said to be, I worry that it will tank, and PalmOne will use it as an excuse to restart their 'Users don't want real features' campaign.
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
And honestly, the x50v is one of the best designed PDAs today. If the 5way on the T5 were 1-2mm closer to the screen, I would give it a close second (per my long fingers). HP = blah design
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RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
In this age of perpetual backward-looking retro designs, P1 should just revive the sleek, still sexy m500 & Handspring Edge designs. Alter them slightly to accomodate the Athena connector & a 5-way navigator and you have ALL the handheld you need without spending more than a moderate sum on FF design.
Built-in HD be damned! Just give me T3 specs (with G1) in a m500 formfactor with battery life at least as good as a stock T3 and I'll be happy! Heck, I could even live with less than that-just give me 320*480 in a TRULY shirt-pocket design and make sure it retains the case rail along the left side!
RE: palmOne ID mojo is back!
The buttons were great - please bring those back
The 5way on the TT/T2 was the best - please bring that back and add 4 more directions :)
The battery life of my T5 is better than that of my m515 and I used the crap out of that thing with Wordsmith rolling all day and no music abilities - so please do that too
Those are my wishes at least :)
Morning everyone
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One hell of an IR port!
http://www.dodccrp.org/events/2000/CCRTS_Monterey/ cd/html/pdf_papers/Track_3/043.pdf
RE: One hell of an IR port!
http://www.dodccrp.org/events/2000/CCRTS_Monterey/cd/html/pdf_papers/Track_3/043.pdf
Sony Clie
Perhaps P1 hired the now defunct Sony Clie Team to design this puppy??? It would make sense!!! The B-Team from p1 designed the T5, and then P1 cherrypicked the soon-to-be-unemployed Sony Clie designers and said "you want a job?"
OR Perhaps this LifeDrive *WAS* a SONY CLIE that was being developed by the Sony Clie Team but was suddenly shelved when they shut down the CLie Project??? You KNOW it looks more Sony Clie than anything P1!!!!!!! Sony didn't need the employees OR the design anymore so the inepts at p1 simply co-opted them/it. Why reinvent the wheel???????
Why else would we see such a DRASTIC differential between the T5 and the LifeDrive???
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS THEORY?????
RE: Sony Clie
After the spring debacle I need to see consistent pictures from two different sources before jumping to conclusions.
[BTW if the clie had been hired, they would have used an OLED screen ;-)]
RE: Sony Clie
RE: Sony Clie
Take that UMD and shove it, Sony!
RE: Sony Clie
Occam's Razor, people.
RE: Sony Clie
Jeff, there's every reason to skip 6. Like 4, it's inauspicious in many Asian cultures. Do you remember the Palm VI coming after the V? No, they skipped to the VII.
RE: Sony Clie
Are We Leaving The Wilderness Yet?
Sony dumping CLIE.
The no-show Cobalt.
The TE/Zire/T3 quality control problems.
The T5 debacle.
Now we are to see the release of FOUR devices from palmOne?
1) Zire 73
2) TE2
-- those for the Great Unwashed
3) hard-drived LifeDrive
4) Tungsten TC2 running Cobalt
-- for US
Can it be that those of us who have been waiting for The Promised Land of a new p1 device are about to have our choice among FOUR? (Or TWO for *US* -- and We Know Who WE Are.)
RE: Are We Leaving The Wilderness Yet?
The fourth is more likley a Treo than a TC2. I would think that the T7 (or LifeDrive) is more of the upgrade to the T3 that some were looking for.
Come to think of it, palmOne did go BMW with their tungsten lineup if this is the case. Neat aint it. Especially with that new 7-series coming out (I am a M5 lover myself, and a sooped up T5 with a touch more power and refinement would be its perfect compliment).
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RE: Are We Leaving The Wilderness Yet?
My point: Don't get your hopes too high. The LifeDrive may look interesting, but remember the hype leading up to the T5 release.
ManicMike Cane: You have NO idea how funny you are...
Bold prediction: Cane will be a bitterly disappointed, whiny, elderly, under-the-bridge inhabitant VERY soon. Sorry, Mikey. And I'll personally send you a free copy* of the PalmOS application of your choice if you actually purchase and keep a T|7 for more than three months.
"Borderline feels like I’m going to lose my mind..."
*Patched
;-O
-TVoR
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RE: Are We Leaving The Wilderness Yet?
RE: Are We Leaving The Wilderness Yet?
Voice..if you do indeed have one in your possession, why not publish some lovely pr0n images for us to look at? I want full frontal PDA nudity!
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RE: Are We Leaving The Wilderness Yet?
RE: Are We Leaving The Wilderness Yet?
Well since the VZ90 is a dead product, along with the entire Clie line...it really doesn't make much sense to publish a review.
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RE: Are We Leaving The Wilderness Yet?
I mean, Sony could really have afforded to weather the storm a few more months and released the VZ90 in limited quantities through a few select retailers in the USA. They shoulda done it *JUST* to keep from going with a whimper like they did.
It'd also give us something to talk about other than LifeDrive speculation & gossip in the next few weeks. I for one am tired of trying to determine what is a Photoshopped hoax and what isn't. At least the VZ90 is/was a real product!
RE: Are We Leaving The Wilderness Yet?
It's interesting that everyone here sticks to the topic of hardware and that twisted sister comes in to make *me* the topic. Jump, Pavlov, jump, you pathetic, lifeless stalker.
CLIE VZ90 Vs. Palm T|7: the Cage match
As hkklife indicated, I have an English localized version of the CLIE VZ90 (despite the fact that Mike Cane insisted that such a beast does not exist). The OLED screen is simply stunning in person. As good as my TH55 and UX50 are, I'd almost be willing to give them up for the VZ90 just to get that incredible screen. Unfortunately, the UX50 and TH55/E have much more practical form factors and Bluetooth, making them better choices (for me) for regular PDA use.
hkklife: I'd be happy to send Ryan the review if he wants to publish it. I just need to get someone to take a few photos of the unit first. If you're a power user, you owe it to yourself to at least try out the VZ90. Had Sony bothered to release a VZ90/UX50 hybrid, PDA nirvana would have finally been attained. Even the OLED-screened update to the UX line that Sony shelved last year would have been hard to top. The contrast between the VZ90 and Palm's upcoming PDAs is really quite shocking. Oh well...
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Typical Clueless Cane Comments:
Mike, Sweetie: How many non-Sony PalmOS PDAs have you seen with dual expansion including that bulletproof industry standard, CompactFlash? Please post some more diarrhea, JesterBoy. You're truly hilarious.
Back under the bridge with you, Mikey... Droll troll.
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RE: Are We Leaving The Wilderness Yet?
RE: Are We Leaving The Wilderness Yet?
Do you mean you've actually SEEN a T7 "in the flesh" so to speak or were you just referring to having seen the screenshots scattered around the web?
While I admit P1's missed the boat as of late there have been a few small details they've gotten right over the years:
-The Palm III curved backside formfactor made it far more comfortable & sleeker than the original Pilot yet still retained compatability with nearly all accessories & cradles.
-The classic V (yeah, IDEO design and all but still superb). 'Nuff said.
-The improved-upon-V m500 line--hands down, still the paradigm of PDA style + function and oh so easy to hold.
-The T|T's exposed larger-sized reset pin was a superb touch
-T|T's telescoping stylus was and still the finest OEM PDA stylus I've ever used. I still must click mine impatiently at least 20x per day.
-Treo 650's keyboard is about as it's going to get for a tiny smartphone keyboard (again, originally a Handspring thing but still)
-The 5-way navigator and the one-hand lookup functions (begun by Handspring but perfected by P1) are superbly intuitive and don't make me miss the old Sony jog wheel one bit. I just with the navigator itself had more of the feel of a real d-pad.
Unfortunately, the LifeDrive looks like it may be packing the right horsepower under the hood, the exterior will leave a great deal to be desired. The hard buttons seem impossibly oversized and waste far too much space on the surface of the unit and the circular 5-way navigator looks less comfortable to use than the oval Treo design.
RE: Are We Leaving The Wilderness Yet?
You really expect the TRUTH out of that guy? When will you learn?
LifeDrive
Forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, but I don't think "LifeDrive" is the name of the handheld. I think LifeDrive is the name of the 4GB Hard Drive - a la "Drive Mode".
The Device name will be Palm Tungsten TX featuring "LifeDrive".
RE: LifeDrive
"Featuring Life Drive"
Has an interesting ring to it.
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Billy, Please spell and use LifeDrive in sentence.
"Palm's cadre of Apple-derived executives have sucked the LifeDrive out of a once proud company."
L - I - F - E - D - R - I- V - E
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Sorry, Kids, but LD is Hocus Pocus. Palm should focus ALL of its dwindling resources on these buzzwords: QC, OLED, RIM, QC, QC, QC.
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RE: LifeDrive
I also wouldn't be surprised at all to see the T5 fade into oblivion sonner rather than later. "Sooner" mneaning it's already gone out of production and they will phase it out by mid-summer as retail supplies dwindle (ala the T3 last fall).
P1 wants (and needs) to have a very streamlined lineup:
Zire 31 $100-$125
Zire 72/3 $300ish
T|E2 $200-$225
T7 $400-$500
Low-end Treo
High-end Treo
That leave a huge hole in the lineup between the Zire 31 & the E2 but I don't see anything else realistically on the horizon.
I don't see a Zire 73 coming out yet as we have had zero leaks/spy pics/rumored specs. If a Zire 73 does ship, expect the most incremental of upgrades over the 72 (new connector, bigger battery, better camera). T|C2 is total bollocks and that image likely was spawned from the T|C2 rumors last fall that had it looking like an antenna-less Treo 650 with a bigger scree & keyboard.
RE: LifeDrive
iPoo is patented Xerox technology. We will SUE these fcukers
I PATENTED "POOING". If you want to Poo, you're going to have to pay me. Otherwise: "Say hello to my little (lawyer) friend!!!"
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RE: iPoo
(Wasn't the article release date a little obvious?)
PARC Unistrokes + iPoo = match made in heaven?
No one has the right to STEAL our patented IP. We reserve the right to defend our patent with overwhelming + lethal force and will continue to do so with EXTREME PREJUDICE. If you continue to post more verbal diarrhea about the PARC iPoo, don't be surprised if you're part of the collateral damage that will ensue once our attorneys are forcefully and savagely unleashed. This is your final warning.
TVoR
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RE: iPoo
You lose! Prior art. My mother informs me that she distinctly remembers me announcing with proud gusto, "I poo!" the first time I took a proper dump on my little potty. That was way before 1998.
Xerox - iPoo™: Pay up or we'll see you in court!
Prior art, my A$$! You saying "I poo" (note the space between the words!) is CLEARLY different from our patented Xerox iPoo™ , a device that does... ummmm... something. We'll see you in court, Bubba. And our Attack Lawyers are trained to drag cases out so long you'll wish you'd simply settled with us and become a licensee of Xerox's patented "iPoo™ Technology". We're gonna F you up. You know where. Real bad. With no lube.
iPoo™ - Just do it. Every day.™
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Any else waiting as impatiently as I am?
I'm really hoping this one is legit. I'm waiting to buy a new PDA for at-most another month. I've always enjoyed having a palm and since my last one met it's doom at the hands of my wife (nothing bad, she liked it so much she stole it from me) I've been running around like the proverbial be-headed chicken.
Soon though, right? Soon we'll know? Goodness, make it stop! Post here if you too are reading this thread for the third-thousandeth time!
RE: Any else waiting as impatiently as I am?
Poor Me.
RE: Any else waiting as impatiently as I am?
RE: Any else waiting as impatiently as I am?
I should have waited until this fall, for the Toshiba Libretto,
a Laptop shrunk to a VHS Tape in size;( Deep Pocket, handheld )is now announced. This does the laptop chores, unlike what we see in our present Handhelds.
7.5" screen, integrated WiFi, and useable keyboard may make this a winner. $1999 asking price is a bit much, but I suspect a longer wait will find competition driving prices down towards the $1000 level.
Life Drive has a miserable battery for the person on the go,
IR does not work, and it crashes way too much--probably in part from conflicts with untested 3rd party Apps.
WiFi is good, though, especially when one remembers to turn it off as much as possible.
With Palm going to the Pocket PC, Mobile Windows platform,
we may be left with an orphan.
George B Johnson
WiFi and Bluetooth integrated in Tungsten T2
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I'll try not to look a gift horse in the mouth
Great specs, but it sounds like this thing will be as big as a cinder block.
Let's hope only part of the rumor is true. :)
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