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RE: How much is too much?
I for one welcome our new 6GB overlords.
When you have a 2 year old daughter who likes to watch movies on daddy's palm you can use all the storage you can get.
RE: How much is too much?
Too little
I have a 40 GB mp3 jukebox, a Palm, and really want a PMP for xvid/divx on commutes. I'd love all this combined into a killer machine.
I don't mind it being a bigger device (hey, wasn't PalmOS supposed to come in all kinds of form factors anyway?), with a nice, big screen for movies. Pair it with a bluetooth keyboard, and you also have a much nicer laptop replacement than any of the current models (I do use my Tungsten T for writing, but the screen is too small).
Too Little
Hardware-wise, I think the LD has a pretty good balance of all things. Software-wise, it needs a lot of work.
Archos PMA 400 vs LifeDrive PMP
The PDA part is some kind of linux stuff, just like Palm will be. If Archos can make money off the PMA 400, then why wouldn't Palm - who already has an established software platform that can do a lot more out-of-the-box - be able to make as much or lots, lots more??
RE: How much is too much?
I use 'Pocket DVD Studio for Palm' to copy my Baby Einstein DVDs. I also shoot mpegs with either my Sony DCS-V1 or DCR-TRV350. My daughter likes to watch movies of herself. And of course I use TCPMP as a movie viewer because it works a lot more smoothly than MMPlayer.
RE: How much is too much?
As long as I have to carry an iPod or laptop or video player as well, I won't be buying another traditional pda.
REAL RAM
This is no substitute for an adequate amount of ***REAL RAM*** for the cache/heap, fools. Don't make the same mistake ONCE AGAIN.
And how much more life can you suck out of FrankenGarnet??? Please bury it in Nagel's grave and give us a device with a modern, stable OS.
RE: REAL RAM
Hopefully, that will lead to increased battery life due to fewer hard drive spin ups freeing up more juice than what the increased RAM might consume.
Don't care about the Garnet/Cobalt/Palminux debate.
RE: REAL RAM
Furthermore, I think Hitachi also needs to improve on the CF Drive concept because IMO there IS room for improvement on the Hard Drives as I speak. Very small cache and a large seek time are the current problems plaguing the LifeDrive.
I think Hitachi should increase the Cache to 16MB for the next LifeDrive.
Anyway, don't expect Real RAM to come back anymore. And oh don't expect any more handhelds enabling Graffiti 1 hacks anymore.
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RE: REAL RAM
DRAM IS CHEAP AND GETTING CHEAPER!!! Give us ample cache/heap, you bastards!!!!!!
DRAM a Drag for Micron
By Chris Kraeuter
TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
6/23/2005 5:28 PM EDT
Micron Technology (MU:NYSE - news - research) soundly missed Wall Street's third-quarter financial targets due to a steep decline in the prices for dynamic random access memory chips.
In after-hours trading, the company's shares fell 3% to $10.50 on Instinet.
The Boise, Idaho-based company reported a loss of $128 million, or 20 cents a share, on sales of $1.05 billion. During the same quarter last year, Micron earned $90.9 million, or 13 cents a share, on sales of $1.12 billion.
Analysts had expected earnings of 2 cents a share and sales of $1.19 billion, on average, according to Thomson First Call.
The average earnings estimate, however, came from between a range of a loss of 17 cents a share to earnings as high as 37 cents a share. This wide range, typical for Micron, is due to the significant and often unpredictable fluctuations of DRAM prices.
And that was the case in the third quarter. Micron's memory prices plummeted 30% during the third quarter.
At the quarter's start, Micron had predicted midsingle digit percent production growth. Actual memory production increased 8% sequentially.
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New 6G Palm needs to by in a TREO!
I think the 6GB Hitachi will be be in the next Treo. The Treo line is in serious need of upgrade. Samsungs I730 has come out and consumers, wireless customers want music on their phones.
My speculation is the 6GB drive is going to be on the next Treo that is going to come out and all you PDA only types will just have to be happy with the current Lifedrive.
The smartphone with hard drive is next. And Palm needs to be the first keeping the Treo line in the lead.
PALMONE are you listening? Don't forget Cobalt!
Ben
RE: New 6G Palm needs to by in a TREO!
Oh yeah.... "6 Gigs! Whoopie - it's just like the iPod mini" (but heavier and it gurgles through every song...). The PalmOne designers need to take a few retreats and figure out just exactly WHAT it is they are making nowadays... Is their competition iPod- I doubt it, I have a lifedrive and an iPod and as nice as PocketTunes is it's still a hack to a PDA, with all the problems inherent therein.
The Treo 650 is shaping up to be a halfway decent device (7 months late) with it's latest firmware. At least they have finally copped to the memory problem they were denying for so long. But the one thing firmware can't fix is the severely missing RAM, and nearly every software designer complains mightily because they are missing sales and the possibility of adding functionality when we can't even load their demos onto our devices for lack of memory. But the Treo bluetooth headset interoperating with the Treo is nearly perfect - a great achievement.
If future Treos end up including mini harddrives, please break into PalmOne and steal their abundant crack pipes. The madness needs to stop.
RE: New 6G Palm needs to by in a TREO!
Yep, what he said.
I do have to say that the T5 jumped up a few notches on my list of "potentials" with the update. The memory scheme is still not exactly what I want, but at least it still maintains a decently small profile and doesn't have "moving parts". And it still has those annoying "missings features".
On the other hand, if an Axim X50v at its current price running PalmOS actually existed, it would absolutely top my list.
I'm still waiting for the mythical "color HandEra."
RE: New 6G Palm needs to by in a TREO!
But I agree, 64-128mb of PHYSICAL memoory of some sort, and two SD slots (one of them SDIO) would give me all of the flexibility I need in a package less fragile/bulky/power hungry/buggy/hot than the LD.
Still, the inspired leap (for P1 that is) that is the LD and the string of bugfixes over the past month has to show that there's someone paying attention over at P1. I like the upcoming name change back to "Palm" too.
RE: New 6G Palm needs to by in a TREO!
Wait no longer!
http://www.churchoflivingfaith.com/images/dellx50p.jpg
Pat Horne; www.churchoflivingfaith.com
RE: New 6G Palm needs to by in a TREO!
To tell the truth, I really think the Axim body is one ugly looking thing, but the fact that I was in love with a HandEra 330 ought to tell you that I can look past the outward appearances. (Just kiddin'; the 330 wasn't that bad.) Do notice how both units have/had CF and SD slots. But I'd much prefer the old Palm V body. The T5 actually looks nice to me too, just put the right guts in it, which incidentally doesn't include a 6 gb hard drive. (See, I can find a way to bring a thread back on topic.)
I'm still waiting for the mythical "color HandEra."
RE: New 6G Palm needs to by in a TREO!
Then again, you probably won't stuff a Microdrive in the thing because that would drain the battery even further than the beating that the cell radio already gives it. Unless you add a honkin' battery to compensate, and make the device larger and heavier and hotter so the heat incapacitates my crotch before the radiation does. Here comes the 1.2lb Treo 700 hibachi.
Yes, "the madness needs to stop." 32MB would be nice. :) The device barely needs more than the 24MB it already has, I think. Most improvements to the Treo should be software ones. Yes, all sorts of new spec sheet goodies would be nice (8 MP camera, antigrav, wifi 802.11q, night vision), but a better-designed, slightly more specification-modest device would kick a$$. That's why iPod shuffles do better than $70 sorta-Uber-mp3 devices with FM radios, voice recording and laundry-washing capabilities, no? The design/software is/are superior, and many (sane) people would rather have fewer headaches than a bling-ridden hoopty handheld with sonar and a tazer attached.
Except me. Please add a tazer.
RE: New 6G Palm needs to by in a TREO!
All good things...
What's the best way to the data off the 6GB Hard Drive?
The other thing would be along side the new multi-connect, they need a simple mini-usb port that could be used to make the palm act as a usb drive, either accessing the Hard Drive, or the SD/MMC slot. It would also act as a trickle charge as well. The multi-connector is nice, but not everyone has a multi-connector laying around so you have to carry it everywhere. Where as almost eveyon has a mini-usb cable around. Most Digital cameras us them, along with many other pc periphials.
I guess that would be too simple, and Palm wouldn't be able to make as much on selling extra sync cables to people.
Maybe I should quit living in a dream world an realize that palm will never get it totally right.
Later,
Waldo
RE: What's the best way to the data off the 6GB Hard Drive?
No wait, better yet (who cares about Apple? I ain't no fanboy...):
Some lady with a jalopy, technical savvy and a dream will buy the Diamond brand name for $300, and make a mostly-open-source PDA-phone with the ability to play protected AAC and WMA files perfectly and she'll make Palm-PIM-100%-compatible apps that WORK. The Palm stuff will be done without licensing fees, making the phone cheaper. It'll be called the Diamond Cutter I. DCI will be the most useful phone/PDA money can buy for $680, but after inflation, realize the savings!
So what's the moral of this story? Let me know, I'm off to get a drink.
RE: What's the best way to the data off the 6GB Hard Drive?
Barring that, two USB sync/trickle charge cables in the box would be a nice touch. Keep one at home and one at work for example.
Mini-usb is nice for digicams for for a PDA, having an AC cable and a mini usb cable hanging out of the bottom of the unit just looks sloppy and doesn't befit $200+ pricetags.
P1 needs to just go ahead and unify the entire lineup on the Multi Connector and stick with it for at least another two years.
RE: What's the best way to the data off the 6GB Hard Drive?
RE: What's the best way to the data off the 6GB Hard Drive?
All those postings about Athena and video were *wrong*?!
Audio-in? Sounds like something one of those crazy podcasters would be pleased to have (I mention no names!).
RE: What's the best way to the data off the 6GB Hard Drive?
RE: What's the best way to the data off the 6GB Hard Drive?
Besides, by the time that 8GB SD is affordable, the world will have moved on to miniSD.
What's the use of 6gb if the OS doesn't support it?
And a pretty sizeable percentage of the time, that app won't run from the SD card anyway (or in the case of the treo 650 I have to have more free main memory than is humanly possible to free up to run it).
Or howabout the fact that the palm multimail program stores all the messages on the main memory, constantly filling my device, when I have a perfectly usable 1gb flash card?
It's great that PalmOne is bundling hard drives, but when are they actually going to make it possible to use them? Seems like they should do some work on their OS if they plan to make this work for anyone.
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