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Blue Nomad has updated The newly updated Professional version allows Palm OS-based Treo users to wirelessly backup and restore their entire Treo, including all third-party applications and data, over the Internet.
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Full Backup is too much

gdbjr @ 8/22/2006 3:50:12 PM # Q
Not price wise, but just not practical. I think that one should backup to a SD card on a nightly basis, but fills the gap for the programs that get updated between nightly backups. I think having your calendar, contacts & memos backup when you make changes is a good thing. I have lost data many times when one of my Palm's has crashed hard during the day after making changes and I the only backup I had was done the night before.

RE: Full Backup is too much
Blue Nomad @ 8/22/2006 4:05:47 PM # Q

Hmm...what makes you say full backup is not practical? Everything is sent compressed (and encrypted) and is incremental after the first backup. If you're using 2.5/3G network even the initial backup is quite fast.

After that with Trickle or a scheduled backup, it just does the (incremental) backup transparently in the background - you'll never notice it.

If you haven't tried it yet, I'd encourage you to give it a whirl. We think it's pretty slick, and I think you'd be impressed if you saw it in action.

Just my 2c FWIW. :)


Blue Nomad,LLC

RE: Full Backup is too much
gdbjr @ 8/24/2006 11:43:59 AM # Q
Well either you have a different definition of fast or your connection is much better then what I get on Cingular's network. I did try a full backup and got tired of looking at the backup progress meter on the initial backup (I didn't bother to let it finish to see what the incremental do). Also there are some things that I don't care if data gets lost between the last full SD card bacup. I will get over losing a high game score or a bookmark in the ebook I was reading. However like I stated before, the ability to have almost live backups (the trickle option seems hit or miss but maybe that is just my Treo) of Calendar, datebook and some other data not backed up with the basic app is the reason I bought the pro version. I just will never use it for a full backup of everything.

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Fatman @ 8/22/2006 6:51:29 PM # Q
I like it it is the best phone i want to get in the whole intire earth, and i will do almost anything to get one.

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E Ben G @ 8/22/2006 10:52:48 PM # Q
I love it too it is my most big desire I want one the most of everything else.

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The_Voice_of_Reason @ 8/22/2006 11:43:54 PM # Q
Nothing is I want more less than this.


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What To do If Hard Reset

trich419 @ 8/23/2006 12:30:07 PM # Q
Maybe I'm missing something, but if I'm on the road and my Treo has a hard reset, how would it be able to retrieve the information stored on the back up server? Can the program be stored on the extension card?

RE: What To do If Hard Reset
Blue Nomad @ 8/23/2006 1:10:52 PM # Q

You could:

1. Use your Treo's web browser to connect to and download the installer PRC


2. Store a copy of the installer PRC on the card (the application cannot be run from the card).


Blue Nomad,LLC

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I don't see the point.

The_Voice_of_Reason @ 8/23/2006 9:58:24 PM # Q
Maybe the Blue Nomad Kiddies can edumacate me a little:

1) What advantage does this offer over an app like Resco Backup? In my opinion, Resco Backup has now replaced BackupMan as the best PalmOS backup utility and it offers so many options to configure backups that it's unlikely a user will ever lose much info if a crash does occur. Why would anyone not be satisfied with a proven on-device backup that requires ZERO effort to recover from a crash? (I recently had BackupMan fail to restore a stable system after my Treo 700p hard reset, but Resco Backup's restore was flawless.) Paranoid users can easily copy a backup made by Resco to a desktop for an extra measure of redundancy... I've been backing up PDAs since 1999 (with my TRGpro) and I fail to see how an OTA backup is useful.

2) Are the backups stored on Blue Nomad's servers or the end user's? If it's on Blue Nomad's, how do I know someone isn't decrypting all my files and gathering evidence about me? Will this app be the thing that finally gets TVoR arrested? Inquiring minds wanty to know.


RE: I don't see the point.
Nycran @ 8/31/2006 9:05:20 AM # Q
The obvious advantage is location independence. In the event that:

A) Your SD card is in your palm when it gets stolen; or
B) Your house burns down;

your data is safe on Blue Nomad's server.

Whether your data is important enough to justify the costs is up to the individual, but for some this would be an easy decision.

In regards to the safety of data TVOR, it would depend on the implementation of the encryption. If the user gets to provide their own private key, and if the cipher is of a high quality and high bit rate, then not even Blue could get easy access to it. You're probably being somewhat paranoid.

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