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Voice Over Your Palm (abbreviated as VOYP) is a new Palm OS communications application that uses voice over Internet protocol (VoIP) technology for free and low cost Internet calls using your compatible Palm handheld. VOYP is a standard compliant SIP client, which allows you to use your own VoIP provider to make calls from your Palm handheld.
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palmit @ 9/13/2006 10:32:33 PM # Q
Another Palm VOIP appl. When it rains it pours.

So far its resetting my TX.

Toysoft @ 9/14/2006 12:21:58 PM # Q
sorry we had problems with the arm code.
the problem has been fixed. you can download the new version from our site

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Still waiting for a PalmOS Skype client.

The_Voice_of_Reason @ 9/14/2006 12:43:46 AM # Q
With several million PalmOS Treos already sold its disappointing that Skype continues to ignore the platform. Is there a reason behind eBay's decision to shun PalmOS? Hmmmmmmmmm...


RE: Still waiting for a PalmOS Skype client.
dkirker @ 9/14/2006 1:17:38 AM # Q
I hope that "Hmmmmmmm......." doesn't mean that you think that the PalmOS is dying.

Anyway. I believe that the excuse that Skype/eBay came up with 2 or so years ago is that the PalmOS was not powerful or capable enough to handle a VoIP app. Cheesey response since, from my developing experience, the PalmOS is more than capable. If not more than WM. We have 2 to 3 examples of this.


RE: Still waiting for a PalmOS Skype client.
LiveFaith @ 9/14/2006 9:24:30 AM # Q
That Hmmmmmmm probably eminates toward the Pacific Northwest for the 800th time.

Pat Horne
RE: Still waiting for a PalmOS Skype client.
Foo Fighter @ 9/14/2006 9:46:43 AM # Q
>> "I hope that "Hmmmmmmm......." doesn't mean that you think that the PalmOS is dying."

You know, it's almost silly posing the question of whether or not PalmOS may be dying, when the platform already exists in a postmortem state. Garnet is already a dead platform, waving a tattered bullet riddled flag over a battlefield littered with the bodies of fallen PalmSource licensees. That is the tragic reality we're faced with today.

The platform exists in the same sense that a rotting corpse exists, slowly consumed by flies and maggots until nothing remains.

The only question that remains is...can Access/PalmSource or perhaps Palm itself (with its own custom OS) revive the platform? This is where the fate of PalmOS is open to debate. When ALP or Palm's own OS arrives it will start from a nearly zero sum position in the market, faced with established competitors that stand from positions of strength. Even more insurmountable; PalmOS developers are rapidly migrating to Windows Mobile because..thanks to PalmOS's fortunes, and Palm's embrace of the platform, they now see it as the true successor to PalmOS, not ALP.

It will take nothing short of providence to turn this platform around and put it back in the dominant position it once stood. That's never going to happen.

Elitist Snob,

RE: Still waiting for a PalmOS Skype client.
steve-hydro @ 9/14/2006 3:09:44 PM # Q
I dont think there will be any Skype client for Palm.

1] There is no alternative Skype even for desktop and is totally closed.
2] Third parties to implement without knowledge of Skypes authentication is litreally waste as Skype can change the scheme at anypoint making the new product dust.
3] Skype seems to show little or no interest with Palm - as Palm Os has been almost not evolving after v 5.x and almost saturated at 5.4.x for last two years - hinting the end of Palm OS based products. And PalmOne is more intersted with Windows Mobile for now and Linus in future.

Considering them all - Skype for Palm is a dream that will never come true.

I was able to use Free World Dialup account with VOYP - FWD account ( it is free and calls between other FWD user is free, calling toll-free is free as some Voip providers charge for it. and fwd-out is also cheap (yet to check their rates) - I actually did pick this from the user-manual of VOYP. More important FWD is from Pulver the original guy behind Vonage, he got FWD declared as unregulated information service from FCC and more.

Read this article for Why FWD is better than Skype -

RE: Still waiting for a PalmOS Skype client.
dcramirez @ 12/9/2006 2:40:02 AM # Q
"I dont think there will be any Skype client for Palm."

do some research before you post

RE: Still waiting for a PalmOS Skype client.
Wollombi @ 12/9/2006 2:20:18 PM # Q
Hmm...not a *real* Skype client, and it only supports two Palm powered Treos which isn't even the entire line. It also doesn't support Palm devices with WiFi such as the TX, LD, or the T3/T5 with the SD WiFi card. So, no, this doesn't really qualify as the PalmOS Skype client that Palm users have been, and will continue to wait for. May YOU should be the one doing your researh/homework instead of insulting the other poster?

The fact is that until Palm on Linux arrives (if ever), there will not be an overall PalmOS client for Skype. Palm and PalmSource (now Access) made the task of programming for devices too convoluted, so that one Palm version will not work on all Palm based PDA's. Add to that that Palm flat missed the boat on Wifi in their handhelds, adding it in only when they realized (two years after everyone else, including their customers) that they were getting trounced in the market on such features. They weren't on the boat, just kind of "water skiing" behind it as they threw a grappling hook to catch the rear rail of the boat.

Don't get me wrong. I love the simplicity of PalmOS. I love that it could do so much with so little. What I hated, and still hate, was Palm's lack of concern for customer wants and needs (and the accompanying hubris), their lack of solid product design (how many people had to return T-series models for various reasons?), lack of robust OS development and standardization of API's across the platform, their lack of ideas and direction, lack of simple foresight, and just plain lack of VISION.

Compound this with the extremely poor business strategy of putting all eggs in the smartphone basket, where competition is fierce and includes many huge players, and abandoning a market they had all but dominated at one time (declining or not, that market is still there and is a revenue stream) and abandoning your most loyal customers who occupy that market, and I fail to see how Palm has survived for so long. Treos will be beat in the market one day. All products are eventually surpassed. What then, Palm?


There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.

RE: Still waiting for a PalmOS Skype client.
twrock @ 12/9/2006 7:58:46 PM # Q
Sean, admit it, you're just upset because you never got the chance to buy a color HandEra. ;-)

Can't agree with you more!

I'm still waiting for the mythical color HandEra.

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A review over at TamsPalm

steve-hydro @ 9/14/2006 3:03:26 PM # Q
There is a good review on VOYP already at TamsPalm

Seems good to me. Tried the latest version that I downloaded from - it read version 1.0 and works good on my lifedrive over WiFi with Vonage.

The reason why I like this is that it can connect to any voip provider unlike the mobivoip from Matragroup which ate my $15 for nothing and turned to vapor with litrally ZERO support.

The battery saver feature is great to check out as normally my LD would drain fast with WiFi On, but when i choose to turn off display it lasted longer with lesser drain.

- Steve

RE: A review over at TamsPalm
dbulante @ 9/15/2006 12:46:32 PM # Q
What codes do you enter to access your Vonage account using VOYP?

RE: A review over at TamsPalm
steve-hydro @ 9/15/2006 2:45:59 PM # Q
I got these info from the VOYP user manual, it has tons of server configuration details and list of free servers like FWD, iptel etc.

For vonage I used the following:
Server page:
Ports: Sip: 5061 (but for first tie i accidentally entered 5060 and it also worked)

Account Page:
Username: (number provided by Vonage)
Password: (password for that account)

Also make sure you are able to make calls from softphones - I think it should be activated from your account or by contacting the Vonage tech support. I had it enabled long before and had been using Vonage on xten in my PC for a while.

Goodluck - try and reply in here if you need any assistance. I think VOYP also provide support via their email and at forum. You can contact them too.

- Steve.

RE: A review over at TamsPalm
Toysoft @ 10/4/2006 2:04:32 AM # Q
v1.4 Update

- Fixed the auto turn off screen bug
- Fixed the address book lookup

- Fixed the crash when there is no connection
- Fixed the Edit menu
- Fixed registration bug
- Fixed the phone lookup. Currently only the Main field is accepted when doing a lookup

- Modified the status

- Added Voice Activity Detection/ Silence Suppression
- Added dial tone
- Added new Address Book look icon
- Added new Turn off screen icon

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