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Windows Mobile 7 Reportedly Delayed

Windows Mobile 7Cnet's Ina Fried has a new article out stating that the next major version of Windows Mobile has been delayed. The report details that device manufactures will not see a release until the second half of 2009.

Although Microsoft has not publicly said when to expect Windows Mobile 7, partners who had expected to have a final release in their hands by early next year have been told now that it won't be ready until the second half of next year, sources told CNET News.

Some preliminary information about Windows Mobile 7 was leaked earlier this year. It is said to feature a host of new input and interaction methods such as camera and motion based gestures, a new system-wide UI revamp and a new web browser and touch controls.

The news is not all bad for Windows Mobile users. The articles does claim that Microsoft still intends to release an improved version of its Internet Explorer Mobile browser. However, the company has not said exactly when or how the new browser will be made available to users.

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Hmmmmmmmm?

LiveFaith @ 9/23/2008 2:12:48 PM # Q
Hmmmmm? What if they called a war and nobody came?

I guess it's better to be nice, this will probably be the front runner for my services in 6 months. You know, when the Nova won't go.

Pat Horne

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Competition is a beautiful thing

Gekko @ 9/23/2008 4:20:13 PM # Q

Thank you Apple and Google for setting the bar at a high level and putting pressure on everyone.

No thanks to you, Palm and Access. FrankenGarnet, Cobalt, ALP, Nova, ain't scaring anybody.

MSFT recognizes that they better kick their game up a few notches.

Prediction - Look for Palm to use this as an excuse to push the Nova release date out even further. Nova development is probably more of a mess than we know. How long ago was FrankenGarnet released?

ALP? Lefty is awful quiet these days.

RE: Competition is a beautiful thing
LiveFaith @ 9/23/2008 4:50:28 PM # Q
Wasn't it 2004? Over a year after the T3 and Treo 600, Palm shook the foundations with the might FrankenGarnet T5-plastic-VRless-LEDless-SamePrice downgrade and the 650-LessMemory-Still2.5mmAudio.

The stillborn Cobalt and the incompetent golden-parachute leadership at Palmsource sealed our fate, beginning that day. The day the "zen" took it on the chin!

Pat Horne

RE: Competition is a beautiful thing
joad @ 9/24/2008 1:13:42 PM # Q
Palm has been setting the bar so low, it's tripping my pet snake.


Paying my annual PDA update tax to Palm since 1997.
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FrankenGarnet, Cobalt, ALP & Nova are all dead in the water

hkklife @ 9/23/2008 10:44:05 PM # Q
OS 5.0 was released on the Tungsten T in October 2002.

The first NVFS-enabled "Garnet" devices, the Treo 650 and Tungsten T5, came out in October 2004.

OS 5.4.x surprisingly wasn't renamed "Garnet" until January of last year!
http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9206/access-renames-palm-os-to-garnet-os/

As always, I ask the question: Why was Cobalt SO bad and would we still be in THIS bad of a situation had Palm released any Cobalt devices?

Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p

RE: FrankenGarnet, Cobalt, ALP & Nova are all dead in the water
Rastick @ 9/24/2008 7:50:07 AM # Q
Garnet, Cobalt and Nova are all development project names and not product names, even though sometimes these evolve into product names, as we've seen recently with Garnet. ALP was a product name, and undoubtedly had one or more development names before being officially given the ALP name. There has been lots written on Palm OS 6.0 and 6.1 (Cobalt) and how the BeOS folks flushed that down the john, though I agree Palm OS 6.1 had potential.

I could bet serious money that Palm's development project with the leaked name of Nova will have an entirely different name when it is formally launched.

RE: FrankenGarnet, Cobalt, ALP & Nova are all dead in the water
Gekko @ 9/24/2008 8:59:49 AM # Q

no shit.

RE: FrankenGarnet, Cobalt, ALP & Nova are all dead in the water
abosco @ 9/24/2008 12:28:54 PM # Q
Licensees hated Cobalt because everything was proprietary.

It's iPhone OS vs Windows Mobile vs Symbian vs Android. I'm even skeptical to place Android in that list because I believe it's going to be a major bust. Nothing is compelling about the G1.

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + S710a

RE: FrankenGarnet, Cobalt, ALP & Nova are all dead in the water
joad @ 9/24/2008 1:19:08 PM # Q
Yeah, Android 1.0 hardware doesn't seem to be that compelling. Though they did add some front buttons (ala Palm) and one of those big honking keyboards like an HTC Mogol. Wouldn't tempt me to dump a PalmOS Treo.

But given time, I'm sure Palm can make enough missteps to make Android a compelling competitor.




Paying my annual PDA update tax to Palm since 1997.

RE: FrankenGarnet, Cobalt, ALP & Nova are all dead in the water
hkklife @ 9/24/2008 2:05:17 PM # Q
Don't forget RIM, bosco. And Symbian enjoys much stronger support in Europe & elsewhere than in the US.

I'd only pencil in Adroid at this stage of the game, due to the utter lack of excitement surrounding the G1, but it's still early in the game.

Pilot 1000->Pilot 5000->PalmPilot Pro->IIIe->Vx->m505->T|T->T|T2->T|C->T|T3->T|T5->Zodiac 2->TX->Verizon Treo 700P->Verizon Treo 755p

RE: FrankenGarnet, Cobalt, ALP & Nova are all dead in the water
mikecane @ 9/24/2008 5:44:11 PM # Q
>>>OS 5.0 was released on the Tungsten T in October 2002.

Wait. What? SIX YEARS have gone by? When? How?

Screw the frikkin jetpack, 21st century! Gimme my time machine!!!

RE: FrankenGarnet, Cobalt, ALP & Nova are all dead in the water
abosco @ 9/24/2008 5:53:48 PM # Q
Ah, RIM. Forgot about them, good call.

iPhone vs Windows Mobile vs RIM vs Symbian

In all honesty, Europeans love their own stuff for no other reason. They eat up Nokia like it's Jesus, but they sell incredibly poorly in the states. Symbian only appears popular because they throw it onto any and every cell phone. How are software sales and development on Symbian?

I've seen sales numbers, and Windows Mobile is apparently improving. But from personal spotting, how many of you actually see tons of Windows Mobile devices out in the wild? In businesses, I see Blackberries by the dozen. On campuses, I see iPhones as far as the eye can see. But who is buying these giant, ugly HTC handsets powered by Windows?

Are Gartner and Microsoft inflating numbers as usual?

-Bosco
NX80v + Wifi + BT + S710a

RE: FrankenGarnet, Cobalt, ALP & Nova are all dead in the water
mikecane @ 9/25/2008 10:03:04 AM # Q
Nah, I've seen WinMo in the wild. And I'm always confused why it's being used.

I see lots of Sidekicks too. And Berries.

And now lots of iPhones and the iPod Touch.

Zunes? HAHAHAHA

Few Treos, few Centros.

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Android has WinMo in its sights!

Rastick @ 9/24/2008 9:54:48 PM # Q
If you look through the stated aims of Android it surely looks like it is targeted at WinMo. Android gives mobile phone manufacturers, like HTC, an independent OS source and allows them to move away from WinMo.

Apple isn't going to license out their BSD Unix-based OS and RIM isn't going to license out either. Access's ALP increasingly looks like dead meat, but it was was an alternative until Android was announced. Nokia have taken control of Symbian, and their competitors aren't going to be happy about sourcing an OS from such a big competitor. Palm still have two irons in the fire, using WinMo and building their own Linux-based phone OS to replace Palm OS 5.4.

If you are running a phone manufacturer and don't have your own in-house OS, your choices are WinMo and Android, and right now Android is coming on strong and is free, but WinMo is slipping and licensed.

The comparisons of Android to Apple's OS are relevant, but the real comparison is to WinMo, and there it really seems to shine!

RE: Android has WinMo in its sights!
BaalthazaaR @ 9/25/2008 8:04:40 AM # Q
Palm still have two irons in the fire, using WinMo and building their own Linux-based phone OS to replace Palm OS 5.4.

Well that is true... but it is more like a small fire... well, ok, it's just embers then... dying embers at that.

RE: Android has WinMo in its sights!
SeldomVisitor @ 9/25/2008 8:19:41 AM # Q
Tsk tsk tsk...you guys are aiming WAY too low.

Google isn't aiming at Windows Mobile.

It's aiming at Windows. Period.

- http://www.unstrung.com/document.asp?doc_id=164578

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