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RE: *Yawn*
Same Crap, Different Day
RE: Same Crap, Different Day
Palm needs a complete product line, both high end and low end. One of several reasons Palm is cleaning Microsoft's clock in the handheld market is there is no way to to release a low end PPC. I wish I had a dollar for every post I've read on PPC message boards wishing for a PPC that cost less than $300.
So if you aren't interested in the m105, you don't have to read about it. There will be more news about the m500 coming soon, I've got a source who has leaked a few details about the device and I'm trying to come up with a way to post them in such a way that they can't be traced back to him.
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RE: Same Crap, Different Day
RE: Same Crap, Different Day
I admit that the III series design is looking really dated at this point. But Palm, with the M100 series, is targeting the average user at the expense of power users who want a value-priced unit with expansion potential. For those users, you can either pay approx. $400 for an m500 unit, or buy from Handspring, who does have a value-priced unit for power users.
RE: Same Crap, Different Day
quit your whining and stop acting like the 'tough' teenage kids at the pg-13 movie who have to prove how 'beneath' them everything is.
re-read the post above that explains how this unit has outsold all PPC devices and has brought the Palm platform to many more people. i'd hate to see a company run by you...that's right, top of the line 'power user' stuff....great profits there.
RE: Same Crap, Different Day
palm just hasn't advertised its expansion capabilities properly.
RE: Same Crap, Different Day
I'm not sure what Palm is intending for people who want better than a m105 but can't afford an m500. Perhaps they have decided to limit themselves to three body designs (m100, m500, and the upcoming wireless m700) and decided adding a fourth wasn't worth the money. I'm sure the profit margins are much higher on the m500 series than on the m100's. Perhaps they are hoping to improve the bottom line by forcing people who want better than a base model to buy a high-end one.
There might be another option. Could Palm release a version of the m500 with a plastic, rather than metal, body? This might reduce the production cost enough to let this model fall between the m100 and the m500 series. But that's just an idea.
On the other hand, we rumormongers might have blown it completely and there is an m300 waiting in the wings and Michael Mace is chortling over his coffee right now. Hopefully we'll know by the end of the month.
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RE: Same Crap, Different Day
Compared to the M105, the Visor Deluxe has a true USB connection, a larger screen, and a dedicated expansion port for $50 more - a true "midrange" unit between the M100 and M500 series. In fact, it costs exactly the same as the M105 right now due to a rebate - making it clearly the better buy in my opinion.
As for expansion options, the Springboard slot is technically superior to the hotsync port for expansion options. Witness Handspring users, who can now choose from Compact Flash, Smart Media, and soon Memory stick storage for their units. This was easy to do for Handspring because the Springboard slot makes memory adapters easier and cheaper to implement.
RE: Midrange Palm
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RE: Same Crap, Different Day
If you look at their history, Palm has always been slow to act in all their "innovations". And when thay have acted it was stagger foward. It's just been lately from their other Licensee that has shaken Palm to do something.
The M100 is nice for entry level PDA. But the M105 is a step backwards for what it replaced. Even though Handspring doesn't have a flashable Rom it still is the better buy for a PDA. At least I can keep my attachments and hotsync at the same time and not have to sacrafice SIZE on my display.
Fine, but what about the m505.
III kit with m10x ?
palmIII cradle ? How bad does it fall ?
Afaik the connector is compatible, so a little duct
tape should do it no ? :)
RE: III kit with m10x ?
The serial port on the rest of the Palm units is a opensided connection, meaning the pins are open faced to the back of the unit - some have a little sliding door but are always openfaced to the back of the unit.
The M100 series is closed faced. The connector fits INSIDE the serial port on the unit itself. It does not connect at all in the least with anything else (I've attempted with my III cradle)
RE: III kit with m10x ?
RE: III kit with m10x ?
That works because of the connector on the keyboard.
The cradles have the back right up against it. Look at the design sometime of the cradle and you'll see.
The keyboard connector is open, theres no "back" to it. The palm pretty much just sits on it, whereas with a cradle it rests against it.
RE: III kit with m10x ?
RE: III kit with m10x ?
No new perhipals for non m series palms!?!?
RE: III kit with m10x ?
Depth
RE: Depth
i had an m100 till i upgraded the thing to the iiixe
this m105 sounds like crap
Palming away.....
Yawn II
It is true that they are the biggest handheld device, but the question is are they going to retain future buyers? I can see future new users rolling into the Palm platform, but without new enhancements soon, they will start to lose the veteran users.
Give me one new function. Just one. Like HoySync Mail directly with a SMTP server. Currently,
if I want my Yahoo! mail on my Palm, I need to run a local program to get the mail, then HotSync. Or how about standard USB hotsync?
Let's hope they don't fall by the wayside like other hardware focused company/products like ReplayTV and Sega Dreamcast...
M.
RE: Yawn II
"New hardware...yeah, nice. But where is the increased functionality?"
Dude this is an ENTRY level device. You expect INCREASED FUNCTIONALLITY for 200 bucks Get real. Wait for the 505, then do your whining!!!!
RE: Yawn II
I am not whining about the new model. I am pointing out that the Palm model, barring the introduction of the IIIc, have not changed since the first III series. Even the Palm V is the same, just a different case and thinner. I am talking about 'innovation'. I'd rather buy a discontinued Palm IIIxe than the new m105. Smaller isn't always innovation. Same memory. Same features. Less price at the moment.
Here's innovation. Improve the 'mail' application. Allow attachments. Allow HTML format. Allow HotSync via SMTP.
If the future is low-end for Palm, fine. Let Handspring take over. But even for high-end, Palm is not the clear winner.
M.
I am
Maybe not so bad
Or if 505 is 500 and 500 is 400, Who is to say that the very successful Vx must be discontinued? It may settle into that midrange 300 dollar spot. BTW 300-350 bucks is around the price that seem to be the starting price for the III series type user. We were getting spoiled with recent reductions on the IIIx. No way would a replacement for it be 200 buck anyway.
My guess is that the V will continue and be sold at 300, the mono 500 will start at 400.00, with the 505 at 500.00. The 500 and the 505 will eventually be reduced by 50 bucks each, at which point the V will be eliminated.
Bottom line, SOMETHING will fill the middle area.
Good news for future 505/500 buyers. A Palm spokesmen said that one more palm would be released after which all future palms would have better compatbility so that things like keyboards could be used across the board. It looked like the 500 series was the last incompatable design. Now it appears that the 500 series is the first compatable design.
Ok. What's next, please?
RE: Ok. What's next, please?
Actually... that Burl Wood one looks rather nice. For $20, though, they should come with matching flip covers. That's just too much money for a piece of plastic.
Then again, it's smart business sense for Palm. not only do they make money on one of the most popular Palm devices, but they're bound to make a lot more on faceplates. I'd imagine the profit margin is quite high on those. You know it doesn't cost anywhere near $20 per faceplate to produce. $.20 maybe. ;-)
-Greg
You get what you pay for!
IIIxe owners out in the cold?
RE: IIIxe owners out in the cold?
On the other hand, I'm hoping someone is developing adapters to let the III and V series use peripherals designed for the upcoming Universal Connector. This is probably be a bit kludgy but better than having to replace all accessories immediately.
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RE: IIIxe owners out in the cold?
RE: IIIxe owners out in the cold?
m105
RE: m105
Women and younger buyers were especially attracted to the Palm m100 series, expanding Palm's reach into new markets beyond its traditional mobile professional customer base.
"These new buyers immediately loved the innovative design and low price, making the m100 the fastest-selling product in Palm's history. And our research indicates m100 handheld owners are extremely happy with their purchases," said Byron Connell, vice president, Consumer Markets Group, Palm, Inc. "The m105 builds on that foundation."
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RE: m105
Entry-level m105
Bubblegum pink
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