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Any PDA that doesn't sell well will not be supported
I feel sorry for poor CESD, the DateBk4 author. This guy must be sick of dealing with these idiots. And heaven forbid he annoy one of the zealots by blowing them off with a flippant answer like "e will support that display format if and when we feel like it" - then he would have to endure a barrage of derogatory posts to every Palm newsgroup and message board.
Once programmers see how few sales the HandEra generates, they will be a lot less inclined to be badgered into supporting it, despite how much screaming people like Joshy do. READ MY LIPS: IF IT DOES NOT SELL, IT WILL NOT BE SUPPORTED. Think of it as survival of the fittest (display).
RE: Jot sucks anyway
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He's right in saying that products that don't sell don't get support. That's business. However, this very same resolution has been standard for WinCE/Pocket PC devices for some time, and can hardly be called a "fringe display format". Get used to it guy, hi res is the future. In speaking of zealots, it's wise not to look like a neophobe zealot yourself.
Why doesn't..
CIC has not yet received a copy of the HandEra 330 so they haven't been able to test Jot with it. A spokesperson said, "I will have to assume that Jot will not be compatible with this particular model." "
Well doesn't HandEra have a rom and an emulator for CIC to test Jot with? They probably don't want to invest more money into supporting hi res
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How to convert your apps.
This contains all the documents (ref man and companion) for the new functions, as well as great exampleprograms with sources.
2. Download the POSE3.1Handera version.
3. Apply on handera.com as developer. In a few minutes, you recive an email with a link.
Follow the link, log in and download the ROMs.
4. Follow the guidelines in the Handera330 Programmers Companion and in a few minutes you will have your old apps working perfectly!
5. Test them in the emulator.
6. Share and enjoy!
How many shades of gray on new Clie?
La Clie
I guess Sony had to give something up for the increased resolution.
Now, the dilemma: 16 bit color m505 or the high res yet 8 bit Clie...
Peace Out,
Nixter
RE: How many shades of gray on new Clie?
RE: How many shades of gray on new Clie?
RE: How many shades of gray on new Clie?
It seems that the Palm market has been well served these last couple of months. Everyone has specific needs/wants and there are plenty of Palms to choose from. Personally I love the high resolution of my N700C, but I understand why some others would prefer the lighter weight of the M505, soft grafitti area of the Handera, etc.
RE: How many shades of gray on new Clie?
BTW: An adaptive pallet means that even though the device is only capable of displaying 256 colors at a time, the palate is not fixed and the device can display *any* combination of 256 colors (including 256 shades of gray).
2c
RE: How many shades of gray on new Clie?
RE: How many shades of gray on new Clie?
that happens to me!!!
Red Mercury will support the Handera 330
http://www.palmstation.com/view_article.py?article=4117&flat_mode=1
--GrouchoMarx
RE: Red Mercury will support the Handera 330
RE: Red Mercury will support the Handera 330
All hardware manufacturers face a dilemma - they want support for their new features, but they can't let everyone in the world know about their new products. They also don't have enough hardware to give a unit to every developer in the world. Developers that do get sneak preview info or hardware usually only have to agree to keep things secret, nothing more.
We of course will support the Handera 330, in keeping with our goal of supporting all Palm OS hardware.
That said, you should take Red Mercury's comments and huge web site extravaganza with whatever size grain of salt you are comfortable with. Clearly we're happy to support new technology, and we'll promote the crap out of ourselves over it, since it's the most exciting thing that's happened to us lately. If we had an m505, and we supported 16 bit color on it, we'd probably have a big "m505 rules" section on our site too, ditto for the Handera 330.
On the other hand, what we say is true, and we don't just make stuff up. You'll notice that our site isn't full of too many fancy buzzwords, just technical facts and screen shots. Sony was frankly surprised when we put the N710C preview up on May 1st - they had nothing to do with it.
So, if you trust Red Mercury, trust what we say about the N710C. If you don't trust us, or don't know us, that's cool too.
Scott
RE: Red Mercury will support the Handera 330
hi-res for older palms
RE: hi-res for older palms
-Greg
When is the new handspring (Prism2?) coming ??
wouldn't that be cool :)
RE: When is the new handspring (Prism2?) coming ??
Visor Snap
$499
16 bit color
Size of Visor Edge
Available first week of July
RE: When is the new handspring (Prism2?) coming ??
from visorcentral:
"I think the Twist in VisorTwist refers to SuperTwist LCD technology So maybe we will see a color unit with the VisorEdge form factor. "
http://www.zdwebopedia.com/TERM/s/supertwist.html
RE: When is the new handspring (Prism2?) coming ??
HewlettPackard 543p
206mhz processor
16MB flash
32MB Ram
1GB microdrive
108kbs wideband wireless modem
All running PalmOS 5.43 at 640x640 in 24bit color!
RE: When is the new handspring (Prism2?) coming ??
RE: When is the new handspring (Prism2?) coming ??
X-rays on Sony Clie?
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map software
Later,
David in Pflugerville
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RE: map software
The rest of us would appreciate support as well. I've been looking for Canadian city maps (especially
for Mapopolis, since I own a Handera 330, but their response is that they have no timeframe for providing
non-U.S. city maps)
RE: map software
Thanks,
Jeremy Straub
Mapopolis.Com, Inc,
Seahorse Software has 10 HandEra 330 ready programs
His programs can be see at:
http://www.handera.com/accessories/seahorse.asp
RE: Seahorse Software has 10 HandEra 330 ready programs
Other HandEra-Ready Apps
BigClock:
http://www.handera.com/accessories/bigclock.asp
Tank Pilot:
http://www.handera.com/accessories/tankpilot.asp
If anyone knows of any other apps that are HandEra- or N720C-ready, please let us know.
---
News Editor
Palm Infocenter
RE: Seahorse Software has 10 HandEra 330 ready programs
http://www.handera.com/accessories/software.asp
Also Silkclockhack is cool. It could be a contest winner.
http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=14396
HandEra development contest details:
An app I'd like to see for the Handera 330
Graphing Calculator
M505lnternet orScreen o
Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
The m505 may not have the best screen, but it succeeds in what it was intended to do, be a small, elegant, color PDA.
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
I think people who buy the m505 are going to be kinking themselves in a month. Palm is about to get deluged with returns from unhappy m505 purchasers. I wouldn't be surprised to see a recall soon.
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
;-)
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
In terms of battery life, Sony claims two weeks but can they really do that with a screen that bright? Probably not. Statistics can be twisted in many different hours. And THREE hours playing mp3's? Please. I won't even consider their stat about 11 hours mp3 playback with the screen off since I'm not going to be playing the same two or three songs for entertainment because of the small 8MB mem stick. I'm sure as heck not buying the $120 64 MB mem stick.
Sony is overpriced. The m505 does everything I need it to do and has more/better third-party hardware support so buy Q3 or Q4, we should start seeing a proliferation of SD devices.
By the way, the screen isn't bad. At all.
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
Wendy
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I purchaed the m505 from Office Depot. I had a hard time adjusting from the Prism's screen to the new 505 screen. Do you have any suggestions?
Wendy
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
Thanks
RE: There Not even Close!
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
I agree with you. I don't know if it was all this built up expectation from the hype, but I was disappointed when I saw the m505 screen.
First off, there is still a grid on the screen (yes it may be a little better, but it doesn't empower any m505 owner to put down the IIIc or Prism by far) – too hard on my eyes.
Second, I don’t know if it was the lighting at OD, but I had to strain to see the color (it was already on when I walked up and, for a second, I though I was looking at a m500.. bad sign). It was ok, once I turned the backlighting on, but wasn’t it designed to work indoors without it? Bottom line, I only liked it with the backlight on and even then I still wanted to make it brighter. The fact that there are hacks for this issue means im not the only one with this opinion.
Don’t get me wrong. I think it is a cool device. It incorporates a lot of technology into a small package, but does that make it a good product? At the very least the bar has been raised and progress has been made in the Palm platform. ;)
Just look for yourself. Form your own opinions.
2c
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
And to those people who say wait for a Clie, I say, yes it may have a better screen, but let's compare PDA's to notebooks. I could get an 8lb Dell with a beautiful 15" screen or I could get a 3lb NEC Subnotebook with an 11" screen. While the Sub-note might not have the big, bright screen that gets you all hot and bothered, it will be more usable to ME because
1. It is easier to take with me (VERY IMPORTANT)
2. Longer battery life
and 3. It still has a color screen (Although not as nice of one).
Until that Sony is at least Half the width that it is, the ONLY pda it should be compared to is the iPAQ (Which would be more like a Desktop PC in my analogy above)
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
This irrational justification is exactly what the other guy above was talking about when he said:
"...humans can adapt to almost any adverse condition, and fool themselves into thinking that a mediocre situation is not so bad ..."
Some of you wanted the color so bad that you bought the m505 without taking the time to see the product first. Now you are disappointed and have to justify your purchase. But to do so by comparing the Clie to a notebook/desktop?!?! WOW!
Thanks for the good laugh. ;)
2c
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
I mean, you do exaggerate the size difference between the Clie and the III-series, but you are correct in principle- the Clie has more features.
But if I don't *want* those features as much as I want a small handheld, they are no consolation to me...
Let's be serious, though. If those features were all available in a cheaply priced unit the size of a Vx, I'd buy it in a flash. But life's not like that, and all features are not equally important to everyone...
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world."
- Mahatma Gandhi
d r. a. c h a r l e s
barbados
Size Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C etc.
Volume calculated by me.
Unit length width depth volume weight
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m550 4.5" 3.1" 0.4" 5.58 4.9 oz
IIIx 4.7" 3.2" 0.7" 10.53 6 oz
Clie 4.7" 2.8" 0.7" 9.21 5.6 oz
Prism 4.8" 3.0" 0.8" 11.52 6.9 oz
iPaq 5.1" 3.3" 0.6" 10.10 6.3 oz
The surprise winner for me here was actually the iPaq, which is really not that much bigger than a IIIxe.
Please note that the Clie is more than half again the volume of the m500- 165%, to be more accurate.
Some may consider the inferior screen quality of the 550 to be worth the sacrifice for the form factor; others may disagree.
But to insult either opinion is nothing but idiotic.
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world."
- Mahatma Gandhi
d r. a. c h a r l e s
barbados
Size is not SONY's Problem!!
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
RE: Screen Comparison of Palm m505 vs. Sony Clie-N710C
> but the 610 doesnt support mp3 audio.
Because Sony didn't want to go to the huge expense of changing their entire handheld design. The idea was to save money by leaving out the DSP chip. If they went back to the drawing board and redesigned the whole device to make it a bit smaller they'd have had to pay the designers, make all new molds, etc. They would have had to pass these costs on to consumers. Also, cases and clip-on peripherals for the N710C might not have worked with the new N610C.
Why didn't Palm redesign the III series every time they come out with a new version? The internal were slightly different, they could have been different sizes. But Palm needed them to be consistent for the same reasons I've just listed.
So no matter what internal changes Sony makes, the eternal housing of the N series isn't gong to change in any material way.
Gray Scale on New Sony - 16 or 256 shades?
Is it only going to be 4 bit (16 shades)?
RE: Gray Scale on New Sony - 16 or 256 shades?
Let us know what you find.
envy
mono just be ok
palm is favor for its simple
but now we will make our palm more and more like POCKET PC. i don.t think it is a good idea.
Accesories for Sony Clie-N710C
RE: Accesories for Sony Clie-N710C
RE: Accesories for Sony Clie-N710C
Toysoft Support for HandEra 330
www.toysoft.ca
16 bit or high-resolution screen?
Thanks for any insight!
Rob at rgilber@dwrite.com
RE: 16 bit or high-resolution screen?
Palm JPG
It also supports the hi-res screen, as well as the screen rotation feature of the 330, so you can view it landscape or even upside-down!
Wow!
How to make a audio file for sony clie' N710C?
I begin write for Palm and I have a little knowledge about it. So I have many problem to slove.
I want to make a sound program or a program which play file .mp3 or .wave, but I don't know how to begin.
A, I write for Sony Clie' N710C.
Can you give me the way to make it?
I look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks for your reading
Please reply as soon as possible.
RE: How to make a audio file for sony clie' N710C?
If you join that Group, all of your questions can be answered just by reading the messages!
High resolution for more text, or just smoother text?
The applications that are being designed to work with the high-res screens - are they using the extra resolution to provide smoother letters (more pixels per letter), or can they provide more text on a page (pixels per letter stays the same).
As an analogy - when I change my PC screen resolution from 640x480 to 1280x960 (say), I get four times the screen space to play with, allowing a much better view of a page (for instance).
Personally, I'd love to have a palm device which was 320x320 and let me see 4 palms worth of information at once :)
Any feedback much appreciated
RE: High resolution for more text, or just smoother text?
Why not join the CLIE YahooGroup? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CLIE_Users_Group
RE: High resolution for more text, or just smoother text?
Cheers
MP3 Player
Clie T615 serial cable internet connection
Can somebody help me out with this? I would appreciate the help if anybody could guide me through the steps.
Thanks.
about screen rotation
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