Comments on: Rumor: More Details on Sony PEG-N610C/V (Updated)

Another webstore has posted more details on the Sony PEG-N610C/V. According to Insight, the forthcoming handheld will run Palm OS 4.0S, have 8 MB of RAM, and a color screen. They also say it will have MP3 playback capabilities. They are selling it for $400.

This product has not yet been announced by Sony but it first appeared on the CDW webstore yesterday along with another unreleased Sony product, the PEG-S320. Insight doesn't have anything on the S320.

Update 1: The N610C/V has been removed from the Insight webstore.

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PC Zone has it listed too.

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 11:22:13 AM #
http://www.zones.com/cgi-bin/zones/zbs/scripts/product/product_summary_page.jsp?id=250011

Note that there is no memory stick mentioned
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 11:48:09 AM #
Also note that there is no note of a free memory stick with the product. This may be another way of trying to reduce the price.

RE: PC Zone has it listed too.
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 11:55:27 AM #
PC Zone has no details other than a price, $400.

RE: PC Zone has it listed too.
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 12:05:18 PM #
insight mentioned that it had a memory stick

RE: PC Zone has it listed too.
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 12:40:52 PM #
> insight mentioned that it had a memory stick

Insight mentioned that it has a Memory Stick *slot*. No mention of an included Stick.

RE: PC Zone has it listed too.
wilco @ 6/14/2001 2:46:32 PM #
Maybe this is just a bare N710C. I.E. No memory stick, no earphone but same functionality unit specially made for the US market where there's a ongoing price war among Palm PDAs. If it was a major revision to the unit, Sony would have released it first to the Japanese market and information or rumors should emanates from Sony's Japanese site not US vendors and SonyStyle.

RE: PC Zone has it listed too.
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 3:08:34 PM #
I'm sure that is exactly what it is, a 710C without the headphones and memory stick. Now the only question is, is it OS 4.0?

RE: Trimmed Down Version
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 3:45:25 PM #
You also might not get a cradle. You'd get a HotSync cable and a power one.

Insight Mistaken?

RobZombie @ 6/14/2001 11:52:06 AM #
I think that Insight has some of the details wrong. How can Sony offer a handheld that is better than the N710C for less? Why would anyone buy the N710C? Why would Sony give a *lower* product number to something that is their current model with an OS upgrade? I think the earlier rumors were correct and the N610C can't play MP3s, which is cool with me.

this is hillarious

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 12:06:09 PM #
have you guys paid any attention to what insight says!?! It is funny! They have so many typos anf flaws in there . . . in addition to how many contradictions!?!

-Bubba Gump

RE: this is hilarious
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 12:33:56 PM #
The only contradiction I found was that it gave two different screen sizes. And they said "palm" when they meant "Palm".

It looks like their description was supposed to be broken up into paragraphs with subheadings. For example:
Memory Stick expansion slot
Virtually unlimited storage for applications, images, and data content.

Jog Dial navigator2
Access your information on the fly with the easy-to-use Jog Dial navigator

Other than that it isn't too bad. Anything I missed?

RE: this is hillarious
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 12:45:11 PM #
It's called a "CLII".

The battery is "rechargable."

Although the "Product Weight" is 5.65 oz, the "Weight of Product" is 1 lb.

RE: this is hilarious
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 12:58:12 PM #
This was probably put together by some $5 an hour data entry person who doesn't know what a Clie is and was just told to take a product description from Sony and put it on their site.

RE: this is hillarious
bcombee @ 6/14/2001 12:58:13 PM #
Weight of product is correct. The box containing the device, its cradle, the manuals, and all the packaging weighs 1 lb. That is a useful number for the shop, since it determines their shipping cost.

RE: this is hilarious
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 1:06:50 PM #
But the site also lists the Weight for Shipping as 2 lbs. Maybe they'll correct these when they actually start selling the things.

Has anyone put in a pre-order here or from CDW?

New products bane for the Palm OS

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 1:00:59 PM #
While new products "Should" excite the Palm OS community, this recent rash of releases only serves to depress the market. The preannpuncement of the m50x series cause potential buyers to putoff their purchase. With the release of the m50x and CLIE 710, it's looks like time to make a decision on what unit to buy. But the rumours on the new Sony's will throw a monkey wrench into the equation once again. Potential buyers will wait for more information yet again. Maybe these new devices isn't helping Palm at all...

This is just like how Palm hurt Vx sales
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 2:38:03 PM #
Sony is really dropping the ball, just like Palm. No real info, just a low price, with features so similar to the 710C that it might hurt it's sales. (Low as they may be). This really doesn't help Sony to do this now.

RE: New products bane for the Palm OS
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 3:14:40 PM #
I completely disagree with the notion that Sony is "dropping the ball" by diluting to Palm market with their handhelds. The N710C and the N610C both have distinct differences and each will find a niche in the handheld market. The N610C offers the customers who really don't use MP3, an outstanding handheld at a very affordable price.

Just like Palm and Handspring, Sony now hand a handheld represented at the different price and market ranges.

1. The N710C is the top-of-the-line PDA

2. The N610C (and N610V?) will be the middle of the road PDA

3. The S320 will be the lower end of the PDA market.

I think that SONY has done a fantastic job, offering a variety of choices.

The only hurting in the Palm market will be Palm itself. The N710C at $450-$500 and N610C at $350-$400 will absolutely kill the m505 and the m500. The S320 at $188 will offer some stiff competition for the m100 series.

A little drama:(mostly kidding of course)
Sony smells blood!!! With Palm in its weaken condition, Sony is going in for the kill and will take away the Palm OS as prize.

RE: New products bane for the Palm OS
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 4:30:26 PM #
How do you quote stuff like that? The NC610 C will be a distinct machine? You didn't know it even might have existed till this morning? This is the same thing that happended with the other Clie, it was hyped senselessly, and then deliverded a great product, but nowhere near as well as the hype. The screen is quite glary on the Clie, and it doesn't run thousands of colors (yet). The memory stick has been around for years and has never caught on, and it is thicker, heavier, and taller (but not wider) than the m505. The graffiti is not back-lit, the buttons are cheesy. The screen has a weird bounce to it, and scratches quite easily. The Clie was hyped to be the ultimate Palm, and while it is good, it is not the Ultimate Palm. Hyping this Clie will not help your cause.

RE: New products bane for the Palm OS
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 4:41:53 PM #
Trying to downplay how much better the Clie N710C is compared to the m505 will not help your cause either.

RE: New products bane for the Palm OS
slot_machine @ 6/14/2001 8:26:45 PM #
The memory stick hasn't caught on?? Ten million memory sticks have been sold to date!

http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1352&MODE=FLAT

Check your facts please!!

RE: New products bane for the Palm OS
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 8:45:45 PM #
For one, 10 million shipped isn't a large number, and doesn't really apply to this discussion. There are about 11 milion PDA's, and about 2-3% of those are Clies. Sony packages a memory stick with almost every product it sells, computers, digital cameras, digitial video cameras, walkmans, and Clies. That number is hardly impressive. Your story is also almost a year old. I would like to see a recent report to see if sales have slowed, which would explain the lack of news about it.

RE: New products bane for the Palm OS
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 12:29:46 AM #
Funny you should bring that up, the Memory Stick now controls 25% of the market: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-6282230.html?tag=mn_hd


RE: New products bane for the Palm OS
drw @ 6/15/2001 2:18:30 AM #
Re: putting off purchases

The story in the desktop market has always been, "you wanna buy a computer? wait 6 months, prices will be cheaper then"

You know what? Sometimes you just need to buy something. The people that waited on the 505, then waited on the 330, and 710, and now choose to wait on the newer clies will find that handspring or somebody will leak news of fall models so the sos keeps going on. What are they going to do? Wait their whole life for the perfect product to be produced, or do what I do and upgrade every two years and be satisfied with whats out at the moment?

I upgraded to the Kyocera 6035, but I fear that this and the Samsung palmphone coming out at the end of the summer (oh yes, more vapor) will be dropped by the Wireless Service providers because they (verizon, sprint) don't have the ability to handle technical questions, and because of that they'll find that the customer returns make the phones unprofitable to sell. I'll be ok with that so long as bluetooth has taken hold by then.

David in Pflugerville, TX

as hard as I try

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 1:23:48 PM #
as hard as I try to look this up, none of our distributers can find this product!!! No specs, and no proof of its actual existence! It is getting rather frusterating looking . . .

oh well, what else should I do? WORK!?!?!?!

It's Gone!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 1:39:46 PM #
Like dust in the wind, the fabled N610 has disappeared from insight.com.

RE: It's Gone!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 10:54:30 PM #
It is not quite gone.

http://www.insight.com/cgi-bin/bp/2089285620/web/result.html?a=s&f=p&t=A&d=clie

It's not a rumor!

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 2:07:16 PM #
My friend spotted this rebate coupon several days ago on Sony web site. I thought it was a printing mistake.

At least we know now it's not just a rumor.

http://www.sonystyle.com/vaio/popup/connectandcreate.pdf


RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 2:28:21 PM #
Yep, right there in the middle they are offering a $30 rebate on the N610C. Sony appears to be leaking info on this product like a sieve.

RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 2:43:39 PM #
either sony is really bad at keeping a secret, or they're compplete idiots. There is no reason to let info like this out! All it'll do is hurt sales of their current model (n710c)! I just never understood the point of "accidental" leaks like this! Why would a company do such diliberate damage to itself? Unless they're making really bad profit margins, it just seems foolish

My 2 cents,
Joe Schmo

RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 2:46:58 PM #
"It's not a rumor!"

Isn't that what Arnold Schwarzenegger said to that classroom full of kids in Kindergarden Cop?

RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 3:07:01 PM #
I don't see any reason why it would hurt sales of the 710 if it was dramatically different. It seems logical that something big will be missing between the 610 and 710 and mp3 playback is probably a likely candidate and along with that, the earphones and maybe even the memory stick.

It's a good way of segmenting. Now they can reach two different levels and beat the m50x series til Palm gets blue in the face.

RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 3:11:52 PM #
The price tag of $400 would put M505 right in the middle between 2 Clie models. This strategy may work on potential customer trying to choose between Sony and Palm. If I don't need MP3, Sony 610 is $50 cheaper than M505. If I want MP3, 710's only $50 more than M505. Either way, Palm loses.

BTW, the Sony promotional page where the coupon link is from mentions only 710. I guess Sony tries to be quiet about the 610 but thinks it's cheaper to include it in the coupon now instead of reprinting the coupon when it's out.

http://www.sonystyle.com/vaio/promotion_connectcreate.htm



RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 3:14:05 PM #
Okay. It's undeniable now.

RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 3:39:14 PM #
This won't hurt sales at all. Give me a break- we all knew that Sony wasn't going to use it's current model forever.

RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 3:48:10 PM #
I think this period when we know there will be some new models out soon but we don't know much about them will cut sales of ther N710C a bit. In my opinion, if you buy a N710C today you are a fool. Sony might release a better and cheaper tomorrow or next week.

As long as Sony announces the N610C soon then this won't have much of an impact. But if they try to sit on this story for months, buyers will hold off until they know all the facts.

RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 3:51:37 PM #
I hope the 610 has no MP3/Atrac3 capabilities, thus is thinner and/or smaller. It would hurt m505 sales "a bit" (just because of a brighter screen)...

RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 4:08:50 PM #
Well, the leak of the N610C may slightly affect the sales the N710C. I don't think that this leak will damage Sony like the leak of the m500's hurt Palm in March. The m500 and m505 is Palm's primary product. The Clie is only a small part of Sony, selling a few less N710C is not going to affect Sony at all.

Sony is so big that it can affort a leak like this, they may even encourage the rumors because the N610C may affect N710C sales, but it also could affect the sales of Palms.

If these new Clie's are anything like the quality of the N710C, Palm is in serious trouble. Unlike Handspring with their sprinboard slot or HandEra with their dual slots and engineering innovations, Palm has nothing unique to fall back, their OS 4.0 is a combination of its licensees, its form factor is old, its SD slot technology and color screen is borrowed from Sony and Handspring.

RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 4:52:50 PM #
uhh...is it me or has the 610c been removed from the sony advertisement?

RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 5:04:36 PM #
Well, I didn't see the coupon before, but it definitely only mentions the N710c now. Does anyone have a copy of the original coupon which mentioned the N610c?

RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 5:22:52 PM #
Yes, I have a copy of when it said 610. Now it is a completely different coupon. Something strange definitely happened. Word got around quickly to Sony apparently. The coupon was for buying a computer AND a Clie for a $30 rebate. Since I'm not planning to buy a computer I tossed it in the trash. Now I just pulled it out as this might be a collectors item! I'm hanging on to it although I'm not exactly sure why.

It gets even better
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 7:33:12 PM #
All of you potential Clie 710 buyers really need to hold off. I know someone who knows someone who works for Sony Japan. He says that there will be a Clie 800 Series coming out sometime in September. It will have 16 Megs RAM built in, a new 640x640 Hi resolution display capable of displaying 32 bit colors, and both a memory stick and an SD slot built in. The processor will run native at 66 Mhz. The Cradle will support USB, USB 2.0 and firewire hotsyncing. It will also come with a 128 Mb SD Card and an FM Radio memory stick. The audio will play through the built in speaker as well as the included noise reducing headphones. MSRP on this baby will be $449. Sony will be taking preorders the first week of July

RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 7:48:05 PM #
Yeah, right ! 800 series with FireWire support ! Dude, a little piece of advice for future hoaxes: don't go overboard otherwise everybody knows its a hoax !



RE: It's not a rumor!
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 8:32:57 PM #
Yeah...no kidding. "i know someone who knows someone who knows someone" who knows your full of sh*t.

RE: It's not a rumor!
slot_machine @ 6/14/2001 8:39:59 PM #
Ah, yeah... and the 800 will also come with dual retro-rockets that can break your fall if you get sucked out of a palne. Funny thing is, you can only use them once, and their use voids the CLIE's warranty.

Technology by AfterBurner.



Big Brother is watching

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 5:16:40 PM #
Given the sudden and unexplained disappearance of the N610 from various web sites, including Sony's, I can only surmise one thing: Sony reads this site, and saw that some retailers (and some dumb Sony web designer) were jumping the gun on an announcement yet to be made. So they issued a directive to remove all offending references. And the retailers made it so.

Someone is monitoring this discussion -- things disappear right after they are noticed here.

RE: Big Brother is watching
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 6:03:59 PM #
wow, sony is really bad at keeping secrets, huh?

RE: Big Brother is watching (humor)
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 8:13:16 PM #
He is right. My job at Sony is to monitor this site. All companies who leaked info will face retribution!!!

As for you individuals who posted links you too will not go unpunished. Do not think you hide under the title "Anonymous." We will find you. Be afraid, very afraid. Fear the WRATH of Sony. We know who you are.

RE: Big Brother is watching
slot_machine @ 6/14/2001 8:47:29 PM #
AN OPEN REQUEST TO PALMINFOCENTER MODERATORS:

Please require all people who post to this site to register. Thanks! :)

RE: Big Brother is watching
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 9:06:55 PM #
Why? So we can catch the watchers? Moron.

RE: Big Brother is watching
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 1:16:00 AM #
Heh, sites that require logins maintain (for the most part) some level of civility at the sacrifice of a few less anon leaks.

Civil discussions? We can't have THOSE here, can we? Just wouldn't be PIC without the daily "Your m505 sucks" or "Your 710C sucks... batteries!"

;)

RE: Big Brother is watching
Islander @ 6/15/2001 6:05:02 AM #
Ok NOW I am registered Slot_machine.
So what!
Why dont you get a sense of humor, dude.

RE: Big Brother is watching
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 7:49:50 AM #
Your GameBoy is getting cold Islander....

Interview with Sony Rep on CNET

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 9:50:21 PM #
I saw this streaming video interview a while back with a Sony representative who definitely mentioned that Sony would be introducing a "family" of CLIEs to the US this year (I think he said this summer).

RE: Interview with Sony Rep on CNET
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/14/2001 10:01:39 PM #
I think it's a pretty good strategy by Sony - putting out the strong 710 and then leaking just enough info to make you think, "whatever my needs are, maybe a new CLIE will be right for me?" After seeing that interview, I definitely put a lot of thought into whether or not I should wait to try the whole "family" of CLIEs before getting the m505. After trying the flagship 710, I think I have a solid enough sense of what the whole line will be like to be comfortable with my choice. On the other hand, if I were shopping in the under $200 category, I have a feeling the new lower-end CLIE might end up being my best bet.

Name

Cheetah @ 6/15/2001 12:41:21 AM #
This is really irrelevant to the above discussions, but am I the only one who thinks that Sony has good Palm OS products BUT lousy names???

How did they come up with a Clie PEG-N610C???

Not only does the name Clie not inspire me (don't even know how to pronounce it actually), but I also have no idea what the "PEG" represents.

I prefer to say, "I have a Palm V" rather then I have a Sony Clie Peg-N6104553NCV

Oh well

RE: Name
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 2:26:56 AM #
The names sound quite similar to the ship designations on Star Trek...

But then again, Sony's not really gunning for that market...

RE: Name
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 5:04:45 AM #
It's pronounced "clee-ay", sort of.

RE: Name
Roy @ 6/15/2001 8:14:38 AM #
PEG means "Personal Entertainment OrGanizer.

Clie means "Communications", "Link", "Information" and, "Entertainment"



RE: Name
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 9:31:50 AM #

The name actually falls right in to Sony's other product's naming. Have you ever compared CD Changers or VCR's? Their names pretty much are like CDC-1603 or VBP-810.
So the name probably make perfect sense to Sony.



RE: Name
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 9:57:55 AM #
OrGanizer?

RE: Name
Ed @ 6/15/2001 10:22:00 AM #
About a year ago, before Sony released the first of its handhelds, they called them PEO for Personal Entertainment Organizer. Later that was changed to PEG and the whole group is refered to as Clié, for Communication Linkage for Information & Entertainment. Frankly, I'm not fond of Sony's naming system but it is fairly typical for a very large company with a lot of products.

www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1056
www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=1156

---
News Editor
Palm Infocenter

RE: Name
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 11:20:08 AM #
I think that they should just name their PDA's after various fast land animals.

RE: Name
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 12:16:36 PM #
PEG, is it like jpeg where you can say (jay-peg), or juest pronounce j,p,e,g. Is is Peg? Or is it P.E.G? Buh?

RE: Name
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 3:01:04 PM #
P-personal, e-entertainment, and g-gamer

The original PDF is here! + OS 4.0 upgrade info....

tiger_bb @ 6/15/2001 1:42:42 AM #
Hi everybody,

I have saved the original PDF which shows PEG N610c, and my web site contains many news regarding Palm too, sorry that, it's in Chinese.

I think the reason for SONY to take the original PDF out, and replace a new one is, I contacted SONY US's sales department last night(HK Time), the sales represtative Alex was shocked after i show him the link of that rebate program.

I had asked Alex about OS 4.0 upgrade project too, his answer is, the OS 4.0 upgrade for S300 and N710c will be coming *SHORTLY*, he refused to release any info about date and price, but, confirmed that there WILL be a OS 4.0 update.

Anyway, this is my web site:
http://www.palmbb.f2s.com/

The direct link for the original Rebate PDF is here:
http://www.palmbb.f2s.com/connectandcreate.pdf

I wish I won't receive any SONY's warning letter then.... Sorry that English is not my first language...

See ya!!

tiger_bb

RE: The original PDF is here! + OS 4.0 upgrade info....
tiger_bb @ 6/15/2001 1:54:16 AM #
Hi guys,

oh! one more info...

CDW has announced the date of release for S300 and N610C:

Thursday August 1 2001....

Hope it's true...

tiger_bb

Clie vs. HandEra 330.

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 2:09:50 AM #
Hand Era 330 is truly very functional, even if it is not sleek as m505. I own both the m505, Clie, and now the HandEra, must say that I love m505 for form and color, but HandEra is "the best" functional palm, IMHO.
My 128 MB CF card and the 64 MB SD card turn this machine into a monster. The AutoCF allows program to run dirrect from CF card, and the AutoCard program is about to release (Beta version already out) would allow application to appear on launcher as native application run from RAM.
The voice recorder is great. Speaker play wav file.
Virtual grafity area is awsome. Ability to read horizonal (rotate screen to take advantage of space) is excellent for chart, word file, graphic...
Jod Dial wheel is very convenience.
Beside for the color part, the HandEra beats the Clie in every way, IMO. Although I only got to play with the Clie (both version) for about 3 hrs. I don't think I give up HandEra functionality for Clie's color. Beside, CF and SD rocks, who care about proprietary memory stick.


RE: Clie vs. HandEra 330.
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 11:02:37 AM #
I tend to agree. The extra screen real estate of the HandEra is the real kicker here. I've checked out the Clie display models, and while the screen looks good, I'm struck by how small it appears, especially sitting next to an iPaq. What's more, the Sony's buttons seem REALLY cheap. I'm willing to give up the smaller size for the functionality of the 330.

HandEra is about to crash and burn
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 11:22:44 AM #
The HandEra 330 is an ugly piece of crap that will only be purchased by a couple thousand engineer geeks. It's going to bomb and take HandEra down with them.

They are currently having problems with the company that's making the 330 for them and have only sold a FEW HUNDRED 330s so far. That's right. Despite all of the pathetic messages posted to EVERY Palm message board by the 4 or 5 HandEra supporters we all know by now, they just aren't selling anything.

If you haven't used the CLIE, don't lie and pretend you have.



RE: Clie vs. HandEra 330.
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 12:11:10 PM #
Wow - After visiting two Sam's Clubs, I've seen over twenty 330's sitting on shelves. I've actually seen 1/5 of the total stock of Handera330's? That's pretty amazing, isen't it?

No-one is buying HandEra 330s
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/16/2001 12:50:39 AM #
Despite all the chatter here about the 330, no-one seems to be buying them. And the TRGPro seems to be about to be discontinued.

RE: Clie vs. HandEra 330.
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/17/2001 9:25:05 PM #
Quote: "The HandEra 330 is an ugly piece of crap that will only be purchased by a couple thousand engineer geeks. It's going to bomb and take HandEra down with them."

Well, I guess it takes crap to know crap.
This sounds like the kind of sophomoric b.s. that comes from a "Sony-ista" who knows NOTHING about PDAs except that he likes Sony. Use your Clie and like it, but STFU about how other PDA companies are about to crumble. Let me guess--HandEra and Palm will be bankrupt by August, right? Please!

RE: Clie vs. HandEra 330.
Tungsten @ 9/29/2003 7:06:31 PM #
HandEra is dead. Long live the T3.

Originial insight page (now gone.)

I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 11:06:02 AM #
SONY CLIE 610 HANDHELD 8MB PALM OS
Product Code:
SODN610

Mfr Part #:
PEG-N610C/V
$ 399.99

Ordered upon request.

No image available.

Product Highlights:

» Palm OS 4.0S
» 8MB Memory
» Color display
» Lithium-polymer rechargeable battery (internal)


Product Overview:

Now with built-in MP3 audio player and high resolution color screen, the all new CLII handheld is more attractive than ever!

Product Specifications:
Product Description
SONY CLIE HANDHELD SILVER 8MB COLOR PALM 4.0S

Standard Memory
8 MB

System Type
Handheld

Operating System
Palm 4.0S

PDA Link
Optional

Infrared Port (IR)
IRDA Serial

Product Weight
5.65 oz.

Product Height
4 3/4

Product Length
11/16"

Product Width
2 7/8 "

Batteries Included
Rechargable Internal Battery is Standard

Battery Technology
Lithium Polymer

Weight for Shipping
2 lbs

Weight of Product
1 lbs.

Display Resolution
480 x 240 Pixels

Manufacturer Part Number
PEG-N610C/V

Features and Benefits
Palm OS software v. 4.0S
The CLIE handheld comes complete with all of the standard Palm OS applications you need for organizing your life. Plus it's fully compatible with thousands of Palm OS add-on applications.
High-resolution color display
High-resolution color screen (320 x 320 pixels)1 shows images in fine detail.
Reflective TFT color display with front lights for excellent visibility both indoors and outdoors.
Memory Stick expansion slot
Virtually unlimited storage for applications, images, and data content.
Jog Dial navigator2
Access your information on the fly with the easy-to-use Jog Dial navigator
Video player and image viewer software
PictureGear Pocket application allows you to view high-resolution digital images on your CLIE handheld.
Watch video clips in the palm of your hand with gMovie video player.



RE: Originial insight page (now gone.)
I.M. Anonymous @ 6/15/2001 12:19:08 PM #
There is something really messed with those facts. It is thicker as the Clie, way smaller length and width wize. The screen on the current Clie is larger than the whole unit. 480x240 is a rectangular display like this [] 1 by 2 basically. Somethings really messed.

RE: Originial Insight page (now gone.)
Ed @ 6/15/2001 1:05:14 PM #
I don't have one to check but, according to Sony, the N710C is 2.88 x 4.75 x 0.69 inches. According to Insight, the new model is 2 7/8 " x 4 3/4" by 11/16". Seems pretty much the same to me.

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How?

Hugo @ 6/15/2001 7:44:03 PM #
If the 610 still has colour, MP3, etc. as well Palmos 4 how is it $100 cheaper? No wonder insight removed the description!

Palm OS compatible not

Leader @ 6/18/2001 6:12:49 AM #
Sony's products use Palm OS, but they are not able to be synced on the same computer with a Palm unit. For us multi-PDA familys this seems to be an insurmountable problem. I am going to return my sony (which is otherwise a wonderful machine) and get something less nice that is really compatible.
David Leader, DMD

Quit bashin' the 330

AzureGuy @ 6/18/2001 5:15:17 PM #
Would the easily offended CLIE owner-PLEASE-grow up? So someone chose the 330 over the CLIE, so what?? The 330 is an information and compatibility POWERHOUSE!! It uses older expansion technology w/ III series compatibility to provide a higher quality product for professionals and people who need access to large amounts of data, not to mention the large number of already existing CF tech.

No, I don't own a 330, but I wish I did! I own a IIIxe, so take your bad attitude and go listen to an MP3 and enjoy the outdoors...

question

I.M. Anonymous @ 4/22/2002 11:07:19 AM #
why does the 360 have more memory than the 415 or the 610?
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