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RE: Power Draw for the m50#
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sounds good
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Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old...
Granted, the GPS module is not availible in the US (yet), but come on, That thing looks huge...
Hey, for a Palm v, m500 user, I guess that's what you have to live with.
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old.
1. Who knows when/if it'll be available in the US.
2. Takes up your only memory slot, so there's no place to store maps.
3. Probably doesn't allow for any software, but what is provided, to work with it.
4. Drains the Sony's battery rather quickly.
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old...
Be Honest:
1. This module will probably come out in the U.S. , and we all know it.
2. In case you didn't read the specs on the company's maps, they're 3 to 4 MB, meaning you can keep them in the ROM, and transfer them back to a stick when done.
3. Sony's not stupid, and everyone knows it. If they don't provide quality sw, no one will buy the add-ons.
4. I would love to see the "specs" you have on battery consumption Sony's GPS add-on. I have a hard time believing they won't provide more than the battery eating bricks that were announced above.
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old...
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old...
For the 50x, they have the entire US on SD card (well, 48 states at least, but I don't plan on driving to Alaska). This lets you get point to point driving directions from New York to California, and leave your PC at home.
The two choices are really geared for different styles, the Sony GPS is way off the top of COOL meter, but works best for the ocassional short-range use.
The GPS sled for the Palm does not force you to neuter your handheld by eliminating your card and storage, and would be better suited for the road warrior, heavy user, or vacation traveler.
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old...
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old.
Definition of Memory Stick Expansion Module
In addition that the Memory Stick expansion module has to have the shape and terminal same as Memory Stick, the expansion module is defined as following:
1. The devices that have the function other than that of Memory Stick.
2. The devices that have more than one function other than that of Memory Stick.
so in the otherwords, MS modules should have "some" builtin memory.
Oh, no! Another pro-Sony jerk!
And then we get this:
"Ah Ha! I just thought of a workaround. You could load all your maps on a Memory Stick, and just install maps from the MS by swapping out the GPS for a moment. Sure would beat lugging a laptop or PC just for the maps."
OK, not as heavy, but who wants to jack around with that?
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old...
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old.
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old...
I swear, you Sony users seem to have nothing to do but bash everyone else...
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old.
Duh, OK.
> 1. This module will probably come out in the U.S.,
> and we all know it.
That brilliant deduction is based on what MemoryStick module that is announced/out in Japan that is now out in the U.S.? Not Bluetooth, not the camera, not this GPS.
> 2. In case you didn't read the specs on the company's
> maps, they're 3 to 4 MB, meaning you can keep them in
> the ROM, and transfer them back to a stick when done.
What do you do with your PDA??? I certainly don't have 3-4 MB free for maps!
> 3. Sony's not stupid, and everyone knows it. If they
> don't provide quality sw, no one will buy the add-ons.
Which has zero to do with what I said. There are many 3rd party apps I'd probably rather use with a GPS than what Sony is providing. To work with 3rd party apps, the GPS would have to behave like some kind of serial port API type GPS device. Nothing Sony has said/done convinces me that there's a standard way and sofware driver to create and support a MemoryStick serial I/O type device. The driver for the GPS is likely proprietary and it'll be a long time before you see other map software supporting it.
> 4. I would love to see the "specs" you have on battery
> consumption Sony's GPS add-on. I have a hard time
> believing they won't provide more than the battery
> eating bricks that were announced above.
You mean the specs posted in the news article about Sony's GPS, ON THIS WEBSITE? 50 minutes with the T series and 75 minutes with the N series. If you read this article and that one, which apparently you haven't, the "sled" for the Palm contains its own battery and runs for 3 hours continuous. Of course even when those 3 hours are up, the Palm handheld will still be able to run without the GPS and the batteries on your Sony handheld will be long dead.
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old.
I remember once upon a time my palmpilot pro only have 1MB of Ram, and I can't really fill up all the space. Now nearly everyone has 8-16MB on their handheld, hmm ........ and you can't spare 3-4 MB for map ??
"Nothing Sony has said/done convinces me that there's a standard way and sofware driver to create and support a MemoryStick serial I/O type device. The driver for the GPS is likely proprietary and it'll be a long time before you see other map software supporting it."
goto www.memorystick.org for more MS I/O information (do some research b4 typing next time, don't want everyone to be as misinformed as you are)
btw: I've never heard of proprietary software, nearly all software/drivers are proprietary, except open-source software.
"50 minutes with the T series and 75 minutes with the N series. "
yes that's the battery life of MS GPS, but it draws power from the device.
RE: Oh, no! Another pro-Sony jerk!
>>"Ah Ha! I just thought of a workaround. You could load all your maps on a Memory Stick, and just install maps from the MS by swapping out the GPS for a moment. Sure would beat lugging a laptop or PC just for the maps."
>OK, not as heavy, but who wants to jack around with that?
If you read my post before the one you quoted, you would understand that I was just giving an alternative to downloading maps via PC (as mentioned in the my first post) if you happen to have a Sony. I was not attempting to be pro-Sony, and try not to be over-zealous about a particular Palm OS device. My apologies if it was not clear enough. I don't want to jack around with swapping cards either, which is why I favored the sled so I can keep my SD card where it belongs, and why I will be buying one of these GPS sleds for my 505.
Regards,
Altema
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old.
> ........ and you can't spare 3-4 MB for map ??
I can't spare 25-50% of my memory for maps? What a dumb question. That's exactly the kind of thing expansion memory is supposed to be for. Mapopolis, maps on an SD card, and a serial GPS device. It is silly to connect a GPS to a high speed expansion port.
> goto www.memorystick.org for more MS I/O information
> (do some research b4 typing next time, don't want
> everyone to be as misinformed as you are)
> btw: I've never heard of proprietary software, nearly
> all software/drivers are proprietary, except
> open-source software.
Do you actually read the things on these sites, or just see the word "serial" and accuse people of being misinformed? Although Sony certainly has added a lot of info to their site in the last month, the only discussion of "serial" I see there has to do with the hardware serial interface of the MemoryStick to the device. Maybe it is in their password protected info for licensees, but I am certainly not that interested. I am talking about a serial device that works with Palm's standard serial API. If the device can't behave like a standard Palm serial API GPS device, then Sony has a proprietary driver for it, period.
> "50 minutes with the T series and 75 minutes with the > N series. "
> yes that's the battery life of MS GPS, but it draws
> power from the device.
Duh, that's what I said, "The announced Sony GPS drains the Sony's battery rather quickly." In comparison, there is minimal added drain on the Palm device.
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old...
This means their NAVMAN GPS for SONY will be a sled as well as being bundled with their in-vehicle suction mount plus the power cable which also charges the Palm!
Sometime in April???
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old.
I am sorry, but I don't quite get what you are saying, when did people start to separate memory between, this memory is used for Pictures, this memory is for preference files, this memory is for applications ?? All I know is expansion memory is mostly used for backup purpose. and interneal memory are supposed to be used for applications, frequently used documents stuff like that.
"Maybe it is in their password protected info for licensees, but I am certainly not that interested. I am talking about a serial device that works with Palm's standard serial API. If the device can't behave like a standard Palm serial API GPS device, then Sony has a proprietary driver for it"
LOL, it's not like you can use the Memory stick on any Palm INC device anyways, so what's your problem, But the thing is, panasoncis do have adapter MS modules for SD Card -> MS adapter, so I guess my answer would be, I don't care, COZ I know that when I get a clie, I'll be able to use all the SD device for Palm.
btw: I sometimes read those sites, but not daily. So if you don't read it, maybe you should just sit aside and shutup b4 reading it. it won't take an idiot to realize that MS modules are not serial device. So are SD Cards serial device ?? and is palm making proprietary software ??
"Duh, that's what I said, "The announced Sony GPS drains the Sony's battery rather quickly." In comparison, there is minimal added drain on the Palm device."
Well considering I don't need to make a Clie device more bulky in order to use that MS modules for 50 mins to 1 hr 15 mins, I'd consider MS modules more successful than the serial GPS Device palm uses. and what ?? after adding all that battery pack for that GPS thingy u can only use it for 2 hours ?? that's just ridiculous ...
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old...
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old...
My PDA model "Sony Clie T615C". How come the Clie "GPS" device still not find in the Asia or Euro market, the Japanese version GPS device (MEGA-MSG1) and software(NAVIN) already existed in the Japan market few month ago. I believe the GPS is no problem I only concern the support English software and suitable map. I don't want to purchase some external device (not from SONY) and without software. As you know, Sony competitor Palm and IPAQ also have their own GPS device and software sell in the market. I hope somebody can answer me.
Thank ¡V Jason
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RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old...
RE: Sony Clie GPS makes this look like it's three years old...
Getting gouged in the EU?
Since (at today's rate) 230 pounds is 369 euros, that last part makes sense, but 230 pounds is also around 325 US dollars. Either that 200 dollar price is bogus, or you are getting hosed if you buy this in Europe.
Perhaps they felt that they had to offer it at a lower price since you can get the magellan for the Palm V for around 100 dollars now.
RE: Getting gouged in the EU?
RE: Getting gouged in the EU?
I don't know if that is part of the reasons
GPS is a lot more expensive in Europe.
-tz
GPS
It has exceeded all of my expectations.
When an SD GPS?
RE: When an SD GPS?
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RE: When an SD GPS?
Great!!! Another Product with No Mac Support...
RE: Great!!! Another Product with No Mac Support...
why does it need mac support .....
Rand McNally StreetFinder
I hope Rand McNally's made some major improvements to this version, because the previous one had some serious usability problems -- the maps were big, and the user interface was slow and clunky.
BTW, I recently picked up the Streetfinder GPS for Palm V for $60 at a local Staples. Replace the included software with Quo Vadis, and you've got yourself a great navigation aid.
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