Comments on: Nagel Promises More Innovation

You should also read the articles that you are commmenting on. Nagel works for the part of the company that manages the Palm OS. That's why they did this so that the OS group could focus more on increasing market share for ALL Palm OS handhelds.

So everything fine - agreed - do you buy my Palm shares now at 50 bucks?
I have tons of

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10.000 thousand sole shareware programmers, sitting alone with only the basic tools and rudimentary information on a Chiquita box are alone porting their (partly very complex) Palm programs to PPC lietrally in months.

Clearly this is a hypothetical. There aren't "10,000 thousand" or even "10,000" or even "1,000" developers "porting their Palm programs to PPC" in months or otherwise.

Trot out some support for your statements, why doncha?

Walk blindfold like Taliban. Cute. You're one of the most pointless trolls I've seen in a long time.

Was Weird Al the CEO of Palm all this time? That's why their stock plummeted. He should stick to writing song parodies. ;-)

I know some CIO/CTO's at some fortune 500 companies and
they are all standardizing with the pocket PC. Palm
just doesn't come with the functionality out of the box.
They seem to like the iPaq and Jornadas

Benhamou and the Palm Board are still there. If you think all bottlenecks are gone, you are dreaming.

You better becareful in wanting a High Screen Resolution and digital audio support. By Nagel's view, that just might all be bloatware. I wonder if Sony is aware that they in danger of playing the PPC game with all it's added features that native Palms can't do? Besides I thought the Palm community took programs which allowd your Palm OS PDA to do presentations very well... But I gus again Nagel sticks his foot to far in his mouth by comming short and telling the Palm community that we must be jacks**es for wanting these things. Way to go Palm. Maybe this guy should leave the company too and go work for Rebock.

<You better becareful in wanting a High Screen Resolution and digital audio support. By Nagel's view, that just might all be bloatware.>

Do you honestly think every single handheld that runs the Palm OS needs to have an MP3 player? If you do, then you are projecting your needs onto everyone else. Let me put it as plainly as I can. I DO NOT WANT MY HANDHELD TO PLAY MP3S!!!!! Nagel is going to make an OS that is flexible so that some companies can add MP3 playback but not everyone has to. So you can have the MP3 player you want (and pay for it) while I can save money by not having one.

Will you PLEASE stop the constant whining about music playback. That is a niche product that very few people over the age of 25 think is important. It is NOT the main purpose of a handheld!!! Geez.

Well, I agree that not every devices should support MP3 playback. WAV audio (like the Clie T415 would be nice). But I DO believe Palm should standardize the entire platform on high resolution. 160x160 has got to go. =)

> Will you PLEASE stop the constant whining about
> music playback. That is a niche product that very
> few people over the age of 25 think is important.
> It is NOT the main purpose of a handheld!!! Geez.

Niche product ?!? Speak for yourself and what praytell is the "main purpose" of a handheld? If you want a Casio organizer then stick with one, but YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE REST OF US. And Yes, I'm older (much older) than 25 and I want MP3 playback capability.

You would have made a "brilliant" [sic] sidekick or flunky for Yankerkowski. He needs you right now !!!

"I'll speak for myself. My handheld has 4 main purposes:
1) Keep me on time
2) Keep my budget
3) Organize my thoughts
4) Mobile word processing"

Sure, if you have more memory you can do more word processing and keep more files. If you have high resolutions your excel spreadsheets comes out nicer and in more detail. If you have internal wireless networking you can send your thoughts, articles, budget and even your schedule to your secretary or friends..... Maybe a little music to help you unwind while you are word processing and organizing your thoughts would be nice too...

Even people with basic needs would somehow find the additional features useful, it's just that people don't dig deep enough to demand those needs. I would buy one that can do things as fast as possible, as many as possible so that I don't carry five devices and get things done quicker.

See the point?

* But we are the VAST minority.
*
* "The needs of the many outweight the needs of the
* few...Or the one."So sayeth Spock.

Not only a Vidiot but also a bloated Trekkie fan.
Gimme a break. You represent yourself and others represent themselves. Don't even think for a moment that you speak for the VAST minority or majority or whatever you believe in your deluded fantasies.

Let me ask you: Did Spock or Janeway command you to represent the VAST minority? Or did you believe this fantasy after you received a BORG probe where the sun don't shine?

Son, I think it's back to the Casio organizer for you. You can pick 'em up at the local $1 store. There is definitely a VAST sumo-sized minority looking for cheap organizers.

Quik_fix happens to be right.

Adding useless features is the only thing that is going to allow MSFT to compete. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that Palm should cease to innovate. Just that it should be very careful about which so-called 'features' it adopts.

The Newton failed because it was too complex for the average user and because it tried to do too much within the confines of the technology. PPC is dying (despite the brave face that MSFT is putting on) for the same reason. Palm dominates the market because it has stuck with a winning formula.

Resting on Palm's laurels would be wrong; adopting a failed strategy would be suicide.

> I want to see products - and I want to see them now! at Christmas!

Nagel has nothing to do with making hardware. He is in charge of the Palm OS. A different part of the company does Palm's hardware now.

And demanding new products from a guy who's been at a company for 3 months is unrealistic. You can't blame him for the screw ups of the past.

> any comment what the chap was doing in the last 3
> months on the OS?

Probably having a circle jerk with Yankerkowski and the rest of the "supergenius" boardmembers.

It's amazing that all the rejects from CrApple are showing up. With the rumor of Sugar Water Man (aka Sculley) being the next CEO the circle will be complete and Palm will be finished.

+++...Remember, he has financial incentives to get PalmOS 5.0 (with ARM support) out the door...+++

Gimme a break...

Palm was not founded the dayy when Nagel apperared as the big zampano on the board.

The four year old Newton had no problem doing a far better job on the very same ARM processor Palm is looking now in and will never achieve. Palm is now working complete under (de facto) former Apple / newton staff / leadership for years on the ARM procejct without any product visible for the next 12 months ahead - where the leaders and programmers of Palm all on a party trip to / from Mars for the last 4 years?

> Probably having a circle jerk with Yankerkowski and the rest of the "supergenius" boardmembers.

How old are you kid, 15? Hush now, the adults are talking.

I see it's fixed now.

You're welcome.

They're gonna need security for wireless connections. Of course I don't know if wireless counts as "bloat" or not. :) I don't know what speed improvements they can make in the OS, but they could do a lot with the hardware of course (ARMs, faster memory access, etc). And stability, well it's sad that nowadays "stability" has become an "innovation."

Well I suppose that the MS lackeys must be getting a little touchy about the failure of PPC. Guys, what are you going to do when PPC2002 is aborted?

Sony listens to their customers? Is Clie your first ever Sony product??? If so, be prepared for a nightmare. Yes, the Clie might have more gimmicks than the m500 series but wait till it breaks down and you spend 2 months trying to get it fixed from overconfident Sony customer service. I think I am qualified to mention this since I have owned atleast three Sony TVs, all which has broken down atleast twice, two Sony VCRs, one which breaks down every 3 months!, a Sony Laser Disk, which did not break down yet, a Sony Mini Hi-Fi whose cassatte player is not working after a year. Two compos which BOTH broke down after 3 months and continue to do so even after 5 fixes. Components had to be shipped from Japan and takes up to months to repair on some products. My latest Sony Minidisc player broke down 1 week after buying it. I exchanged it for a Panasonic model which worked fine. I have heard nightmarish stories of Sony Vaio's series breaknig down easily.

the guy above who compains bout sony but has EVERYTHING Sony he must be eeither A) liar (most likely) or B)stupid enough to keep buying them
..anyway its a well known fact that sony products are usually above average (quality terms).