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New Palm m505 ColorsThe Palm Online Store is now selling 2 new special edition m505 colors. The new units have the same specs as the metallic silver m505 but in 2 new casing colors. In a sign of the times, the colors are named Patriot Blue and American Cranberry.

The new models are available only at the Palm Store, for a unspecified limited time. They are priced at $399.

Update: Palm has changed the names of these models. They are now simply called Cranberry and Blue.

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Great Job Palm!

I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 6:05:29 AM #
Once again Palm, you continue to amaze me in your Innovation! As if the Claudia and Jordan Palm's weren't enough... I'm quite disappointed. This is likely Carl's last big idea before getting the boot. I think this is a bad idea for Palm.

Many customers are likely to look at this move as Palm trying to profit over the current situation as opposed to Palm trying to be innovative and actually being "Patriotic". If they were being "Patriotic" it would be accompanied by a big drop in price or portion being donated to help the victims in NYC. No such "Patriotism" here. Simply, a desparate effort to improve sales.

Obviously, innovation has been lacking for quite sometime. This was confirmed at this year's COMDEX. No new products from Palm. Palm's stock was riding off of Handspring's TREO Innovation.

I sure hope this isn't the future of Palm's management decisions. Why not actually add new features rather than new colors!

RE: Great Job Palm!
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 6:34:42 AM #
lighten up.

RE: Great Job Palm!
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 8:24:26 AM #
I must say, I am with the first poster on this. In every way.

New colors? Patriotic colors?

This "If they were being "Patriotic" it would be accompanied by a big drop in price or portion being donated to help the victims in NYC." hits the nail right on the head.

It's quite sickening really.

RE: Great Job Palm!
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 9:24:32 AM #
Isn't this a same re-hashed idea they did with the Palm V? I think I remember seeing this same thing offered with the V along with an ugly green. Boy, you can really tell a bunch of ex-CrApples run Palm now.

RE: Great Job Palm!
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 9:48:28 AM #
Yeah the CLaudia Schiffer Palm V.

HAH. What a waste. Handspring donated deluxes/platinums and visorphones /w service. Thats patriotism!

Price gouging helps nobody.

RE: Great Job Palm!
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 10:00:02 AM #
The limited addition Palm Vx units were Gold or Blue. Blue ended up being very popular... like the black IBM unit was amongst those that care.

There are those out there (like the Claudia Greeenish.) that just like a bit of color splash on the unit. If they are going to buy a unit already why not get it a bit more personal.

Palm isn't saying this is some great new thing, just more personal... seems to have worked for Apple didn't it. Now we see all the other computer builders out there following suit. What is interesting is the PocketPC Casio (I think it was Casio, sorry.) tried colors and did not do as well as the Palm limited addition did.

The major item for all of us here, that are real 'users' is that if this is what it takes to get someone to buy a unit, then more power to Palm. Gets more units on the street, Palm makes more money to build cool new devices like we want, software developers have more customers to sell to and we all have a stronger future.


RE: Great Job Palm!
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 10:22:12 AM #
> If they were being "Patriotic" it would be accompanied by a big drop in price

It's disgusting that your idea of patriotism is a discount off the price of something.

RE: Great Job Palm!
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 10:22:40 AM #
What is your point ? Palm's management sucks.

Schiffer, Jordan, Patriotic? PLEASE !!!

Help the industry, the economy and the nation with innovations, not with hypocrite attitudes.

Now we know why they are looking for new management, they don't have any now.

RE: Great Job Palm!
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 10:24:33 AM #
Palm donated Palm VIIx's to relief workers in NYC so they could keep in touch. They also gave millions of dollars worth of handhelds to eBay's Auction for America.

RE: Great Job Palm!
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 10:49:21 AM #
Seems like some people will always complain about something. So what if palm releases 'Limited edition' versions in 'Patriotic blue' and 'American cranberry'? Those are just colour descriptions and if they mirror the mood of the moment, so be it.Ifthey'll help sales, all the better!

Palm did their bit after June 12 by providing wireless handhelds and other assistance.

If you want to kick those who profit from War, go after the big defense contractors and their friends in Washington, but gimme a break here.....

RE: Great Job Palm!
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 12:19:49 PM #
In regard to the first commentator, I'd like to note that it's not the intention of Palm to be patriotic, but the user holding one.

RE: Great Job Palm!
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 2:02:29 PM #
People on this board are ridiculous. Palm is not offering a new unit, they are simply offering more colors which is well within their right and allows end users more personal choice of what their PDA looks like. To choose a nice shade of red and blue is nice considering the times. Palm is not claiming they are doing this for any reason other than to offer new colors so why people knock them for it is beyond my understand. Yes I would like to see a m525 with 320x320 bright color screen with 16 RAM and a new processor but in the meanwhile if you are in the market for an m505 you have more choice and that is never bad.

RE: Great Job Palm!
mikecane @ 11/19/2001 8:53:08 AM #
Not everyone wants 320x320. Sony has that now. Most people want 240x320 with Soft Graffiti.

Ah, what a lovely string of messages -- all from people who have the time to rant but not the IQ -- or courtesy -- to *register*.

RE: Is it against the board rules to post anonymously?
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 9:22:39 AM #
As long as this board allows anonymous posting, I am perfectly within my right to choose to post anonymously without having to be insulted or have my IQ questioned.

Your pseudonym of 'mikecane' or whatever means absolutely zilch to me. Just have your say like everyone else and keep things civil.

RE: Great Job Palm!
mikecane @ 11/19/2001 9:43:14 AM #
Hey, brain trust, many people here who post anonymously do so *every damned day.* If you're going to be a regular, take the time to put a name to your comments and stand by them.

You're the leader in no IQ. This is my real name and I've had articles published here. Now go take your medication.

RE: Great Job Palm!
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 9:54:25 AM #
Palm's management sucks. Schiffer, Jordan, <snip>

Do any of you have a clue that the Claudia Schiffer and Michael Jordan Palns were created by PTN Media, not Palm? They came up with the idea, bought the hardware from Palm, and are now marketing and selling them. The only involvement Palm has is making money. While that's not innovative, its what companies are supposed to do. So the next time someone wants to complain about one of these, stuff it.

RE: Great Job Palm!
mikecane @ 11/19/2001 10:03:18 AM #
Thanks for clarifying that for us. I hadn't heard the details.

Isn't the Jordan m505 black like the IBM WorkPad? I'd only seen the box for it at PC Expo earlier in the year and I recall it not having the m505 silver color, but a different one that made it very attractive.

RE: Great Job Palm!
mikecane @ 11/19/2001 11:55:30 AM #
Ooooh, poor baby. Guess momma didn't give you a name because she didn't want you.

RE: Great Job Palm!
mikecane @ 11/20/2001 9:29:22 AM #
Poor child, posts 3 messages to make it look like its three different people. Stop it. You can't disguise yourself.

New Palm Commercials

I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 9:29:43 AM #
I have to admit though, I do like the new Palm commercials featuring the SD Card and the m505. I like the music, I like the visuals, and they are playing it alot so it may have some impact - and Christmas shopping season is here. This is one of the few things Palm has done right lately. Kudos to their ad agency.

RE: New Palm Commercials
Foo @ 11/18/2001 2:54:06 PM #
Does anyone know where I can download or view these new commercials? Palm doesn't have them posted on their site. I would love to be able to download these in Quicktime format.

yes - on TV.
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 4:57:59 PM #

RE: New Palm Commercials
Foo @ 11/18/2001 5:01:08 PM #
Ha Ha! Very funny. =)

RE: New Palm Commercials
mattyparanoid @ 11/18/2001 6:29:16 PM #
Yes, at least one can be seen through a link on

Here is where the site links to, it is a quicktime video

RE: New Palm Commercials
mattyparanoid @ 11/18/2001 6:39:37 PM #
In regards to my last post, the ad that I linked to was the old one. When I read the post on Ludipocket I thought it implied it was the new one for the 500 series.

After I checked it out I saw it was not, sorry.

RE: New Palm Commercials
Admin @ 11/18/2001 10:07:33 PM #
Does anyone know of any links to the new commercials?


Another example...

I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 10:00:09 AM #
...of trying to cash in on the "patriotic hysteria" in the US today.

I like the colors, but I just don't like the fact that Palm is using the war to sell more handhelds...

RE: Another example...
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 7:57:04 PM #
I have to agree. I read some of the upper posts fromother whoa re defending what Palm is doing and I just laugh. It's true Palm has the right to make their devices in any color they want to help boost sales, but truth be told, Palm is doing it to ride on the profits of Patrisim on the nation. I Palm could of, should of done a better job if they wanted to make these really patrisim for those people who are trying and want to support the U.S. cause in it's recent events. EVEN APPLE computers haven't stooped so low as to use the current events make a buck from everything that has happened recently, and they are the king of eye candy. When they have nothing big to show the world or any new technology, they redesign their iMacs and Laptops. Palm should of just called these "Palms Christmas Additions" or something and they could even just charged doubled for them.....And I'm sure people would of bought them up.

RE: Another example...
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 10:07:49 PM #
geeze! they could of made a transperent. the worlds' computer

RE: Another example...
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 9:49:43 AM #
So, do you have a problem with stores that are selling flags and other patriotic accessories? Are you boycotting these products?


I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 9:55:26 AM #
And Firebirds are quite an improvement over Camaros, as are Johnson outboards over Evinrudes. Last I heard, Outboard Marine was belly-up, and GM is dropping the Camaro/Firebird. Why don't they include a nice, patriotic card-integration feature like PiDirect? They could even use red/ white & blue pixels. I can't see me buying another Handspring, but kudos to them for shipping a bunch to NYC. That is patriotic. This is more like selling cheap plastic flags that fasten to your car's window, and none of the proceeds go to the relief effort.

Why call it patriotic?

wilco @ 11/18/2001 10:23:20 AM #
The colors themselves are cool. It extend the product's lifecycle, like Nintendo do with Gameboy/N64 or Apple with iMac. But to call it patriotic is wrong, especially this late, when there is a public backlash about this 'patriotic commercialism (Note the X-cam type ads for American Flags)'. To be truly patriotic, they should donate all proceeds to the victims of the Sept.11 tragedy or to the Coffers to Uncle Sam. They could have marketed it better as "Limited Edition" or "Collectors-Edition" Palms.

All marketing fluff, no substance.

I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 10:48:15 AM #
We have a buch of marketing people at Palm and not a whole lot of R&D people. The money has been going to marketing, not R&D - hence the result. Here's what Palm should have had at market by now:

1. Hi-Res Color Screen 320x320 (yes, I know of the Clie)
2. OS 5 (or an OS with DRAMATIC improvements over 1.0)
3. XScale/Strong ARM CPU
4. 32+ MB RAM Built-In
5. Built-in Wireless Capability
6. Maintain relatively slim form-factor.

These are the top five priorities that Palm should focus on getting done soon. Better late than never.

I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 10:56:41 AM #
SIX top priorities.

How come CPQ can get it all done and Palm can't?
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 11:15:10 AM #
Compaq IPAQ 3835 Pocket PC
What's small enough to fit in your pocket but has enough storage capacity to manage your whole life? Give up? It's the Compaq iPAQ 3835 Pocket PC. With 64MB RAM and an SD Memory Slot, the iPAQ can store all of your appointments, to-do lists and business contacts with ease while the 206MHz Intel® StrongARM processor accesses them quickly. Spreadsheet, word processing and email functions make the iPAQ truly handy and handwriting recognition and voice commands round out the package. 240 x 320 Color-Reflective TFT Liquid Crystal Display for Indoor and Outdoor Viewing (65,536 Colors).

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 11:39:23 AM #
You forgot to mention that this cost $600, half agin the price of the m505. And you better have a damn big pocket to put it into, too.

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 12:10:04 PM #
So what? A Casio Organizer is $12.99! I am willing to pay more for a device that offers more!!!

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 12:15:20 PM #
Sounds a lot like Apple.... ;0

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 12:16:11 PM #
Yeah.. the iPaq (and other PocketPC's) are nice.. but the operating system still SUCKS.

Last check on showed they have 1806 apps for PalmOS and a mere 386 for PPC.

All that power doesn't mean jack without lots of good (and preferably FREE) software to use on it.

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 9:22:57 PM #
Oh please...the Pocket PC operating is more versital than the Palm OS can ever hope to be in it's current state. The mear fact that it can do true mult-processing as compared to Palm's singulare processing puts the PPC OS years ahead of the Palm. The PPC OS is very stable and anyone who says different must be a true Palm user who barley can operate the remote control for their television and has never really used the OS. The fact that PPC doesn't have as many apps, like the incredible mirror on the Palm, or Tic-Tac-Toe, leaves the PPC with even more credability, since you know what you are paying for is quality and will actually work. And for those of you who may actually wadge a Palm between your butt checks, a naket iPaq will fit in any shirt pocket. And the price is not much more than many higher end Palm based OS PDA. When you think 8 megs or 16 megs verses 64 megs, plus the SD slot that can still be used, and the the sleeve if needed, and intergrated BlueTooth, keeps the PPC even cheaper than any Palm for what you can get and what it can do on a dollar per dollar bases.

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 10:11:59 PM #
dam! I want a mp3 player, portable drive, and cell phone, and pda.. all in one.. and the most I am willing to pay for the base config is $300... and I want to be able to use all the peices at once! first company to do this gets my cash... and I could care less what OS is on it.... well, as long as there is a simcity for it.. I could care less about schedules, expense reports and todo lists.....

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 10:23:23 PM #
memory comparisons are invalid, seeing as palm doesnt need to use extra memory for RAM, and in addition, remember, palm apps use 5x less storage on average

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 10:24:12 PM #
Multitask processing on a 3 inch screen!? You are a joke! PocketPC doesn't have a software library because 80% of handheld users use Palm! No wonder why! ALL Pocket PC's are bricks! All of them, even the Ipaq. Let's see one compare with the m505, or Clie T415. 8 MB is all the space the Palm users need! Shows how efficient the OS is, it holds on 2 MB ROM. Lets see the Pocket PC do that. And if 8 MB of memory isn't enough, pop in a Memory Stick or SD card, without an extra sleeve that takes up space. Useless and crappy design! Uh, lets see, have you heard of Wordsmith, which BTW was rated better than Microsoft's own Pocket Word! Who needs voice recognition?! The Palm is simple enough allready. And, integrated Bluetooth? How much is the device? $700, $800? Another joke! Go spend an extra hundred and get a laptop, or get a bluetooth module for a Palm. Face it, PPC's suck, and Palm still owns the market.

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 12:35:46 AM #
> Multitask processing on a 3 inch screen!?

Sure, download email while writing a memo. Exercise that limited imagination of yours.

> Let's see one compare with the m505, or Clie T415.

Do you have a Clie T415 yet? Let's see a T415 period.

> 8 MB is all the space the Palm users need! ...
> And if 8 MB of memory isn't enough,

You contradict yourself. I have 22MB of stuff on my Clie too.

> without an extra sleeve that takes up space.

How many PocketPCs have you seen?

Are you more than 12 years old?

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 1:24:50 AM #
Hey...I'm not busting on Palm users, but it is that same attitude about the Palm not needing anymore memory that has kept it from moving a head. I had a Palm with 8 megs on it and let me tell you that it was easliy filled. Multi-Tasking does come in handle when you have it. The 3 inch screen is more of a bust on Palm than any PPCs, since Palm still waste have of the screen with it's low resolution and the grafity area. And wordsmith is bought where as Pocket Word is included, so what's the point? Besides if you were really going to do heavy wordpressing with grafity and on a 2 inch screen who's the nut? That's what Laptops are for.

Truthfully speaking, If Palm had the capibilities of their OS and the hardware behind it, I would consider moving to a Palm. If Linux based PDAs had the same and the software to make it worth any time I might move to that as well, but right now, Palm is behind in it's effort and is only riding on their name "Palm" and the luck that they got to the PDA market first...
But keep this mind.
Looking at the history of Palm, Palm has never made a HUGE change to their OS. Palm was in the hardware business more than the OS business ( 3Com, Palm Pilot, now Palm), and that's where their money comes from. Palm will have more of a struggle getting the new OS 5 to work like they claim it will with the ARM processor, than a company like Microsoft who only does software and OSes.

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
mikecane @ 11/19/2001 8:55:46 AM #
"ALL Pocket PC's are bricks!"

Not so. Go handle a Toshiba e570.

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 9:22:50 AM #
Let's be fair. Palm may have a lot more applications, but how many different calculator programs does one really need? Infinity softworks makes a fine set of calculators for the Palm OS, then you have like 3000 shareware calculator programs out there.

A lot of the Palm applications are nothing but clones of other existing applications.

I don't know if it is the same for the PocketPC, but the actual number of unique Palm apps is not nearly as many as palm would like us to believe.

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
mikecane @ 11/19/2001 11:56:58 AM #
That may be true. But for PPC, I doubt you'll see anyone jump in with a WP program, even though it needs it (PWord is not so good). Who wants to compete with MS?

RE: All marketing fluff, no substance.
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/20/2001 2:47:04 AM #
It will be just a matter of time before the PPCs get smaller, because the PPC is continuing to evolve much faster than Palm. Its just a matter of time. What last remnant of defense are you going to cling to then?

Patriotism at Palm

Moosecat @ 11/18/2001 11:02:53 AM #
I've got two comments.

1) To those who assault this as another example of non-innovation from Palm, I don't think they're selling this as big-time innovation. It's not like they're launching a massive advertising campaign to sell blue and red machines. It is a virtually no-cost way to sell a few more computers.

2) To the poster who is offended that Palm is using the war to sell more machines, I think you've got a decent point. But, hey, car companies have commercials about America getting back on track with 0% financing. Airlines have commercials about how much they care. It's all the same stuff. Capitalism.

RE: Patriotism at Palm
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 12:22:08 PM #

I agree with your #2 point. What's more, if people want to bash companies for cashing in on the tragedy & war, go after the airlines, farmers, oil companies, and all the other corporations that are whining that they need a "government bailout" due to fallout from Sept. 11. Who pays for that? YOU do, in the form of tax dollars. Palm is offering this up--if you don't like it, DON'T BUY IT.

And please, people, be fair. Palm donated toward the relief efforts, just like Handspring did (though not in the same way). Stop using the war as a crass effort to justify your handheld of choice...

I'd buy one...

I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 11:20:28 AM #
... if I didn't already have a Palm m505. I may buy one anyway.


I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 11:52:34 AM #
If Cranberry is "American" and Blue is "Patriotic", what does that make my original M505; "Capitalist Silver"? Truth in advertising...

I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 1:15:51 PM #

Gold is coming.......
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 1:16:16 PM #
For me, I want a black unit...but as someone already mentioned...what I truly want is a 320X320 color TFT with bluetooth, ARM processor and MP3 either as add on or standard.

Then we will deal with color, like Nokia and Motorola's V66.....face-plates...

RE: Silver?
EGarrido @ 11/18/2001 3:30:36 PM #
IBM sells the m505 in black. It's actually an OEMed version, but if you want black, they have it.

Eric Garrido

Has to come with a Taliban bombing game....

I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 1:20:46 PM #
and all songs and flags software so that we can all start a chorus anytime we want. Most wanted list in a database. All disaster relief/donation telephone numbers would be handy too.

At least the jordan palm was filled with the basketball game, so why not this patriotic one?

RE: Has to come with a Taliban bombing game....
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 6:02:21 AM #
Yes.. because Americans just love bombs right now... NOT! Get a clue.

RE: Has to come with a Taliban bombing game....
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 6:16:23 AM #
While I have no wish to insult anyone regarding September 11 and the attrocities perpetrated that day on innocent civilians, I had to respond to this..

>Yes.. because Americans just love bombs
>right now... NOT! Get a clue.

Sir, if you were living in Afghanistan today you'd think that the US and the Brits were pretty enamoured with bombs, judging by the quantity raining out of the sky.

In all fairness bombing has served its role and pushed the Taliban out of its positions of power. Perhaps the time has come now to step back and try and restore order in the country. One must not forget, that the Afghani people are more or less innocent bystanders in this. The US' argument is with Osama bin Laden and al Quaeda. Even the Taliban's role was incidental. The reason they came under attack was because they failed to hand him over. Recently Spain called for Britain to hand over General Pinochet. Britain said no. Should Spain be allowed to bomb the UK? Of course not. I don't feel further widespread military action, except to support a free and fair Afghani government, is justified either. By all means attack al Quaeda strongholds, send in special forces to destroy cells (with Afghanistan's permission)

The above of course totally off topic. As for Palm milking the cow of patriotism, I must admit it would have been easier to swallow the two colour schemes, or rather their names, if they had offered a small donation to relief charities for every unit sold.

RE: Has to come with a Taliban bombing game....
mikecane @ 11/19/2001 8:57:21 AM #
What if they hadn't offered a blue one, but a green one instead and called these "Holiday Colors"? Would all of you PC (as in Pol Cor) creeps still whine? Probably.

RE: Has to come with a Taliban bombing game....
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/20/2001 3:57:07 AM #
Mike.. its not a case of political correctness. The way I see it, Palm can colour their devices whatever hue they like. And they can name them whatever they like. However, when their colour names ride on a marketing wave caused by massive human suffering, they should do something to help assuage the pain that is helping them to sell their product. Had they called the colours blue and red, there wouldn't have been this outcry.

RE: Has to come with a Taliban bombing game....
mikecane @ 11/20/2001 9:31:32 AM #
Yeah, perhaps you have a point there. I can see the case for a portion of the proceeds going to a 911 Fund, but most of the posters are whining about colors vs. innovation.

My own question is, why didn't Palm go whole hog and release a white m505 too? That might have sold the best, especially to nurses.


I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 2:12:46 PM #
can you all just get off your anti-palm kick and look at the world with an open mind? is that asking SO much!?!

okay, i dont care about whether or not they're marketing it as patriotic - i like it! i think the blue is quite classy, and the red isn't too bad ether. infact, this is the sorta thing i wish there wwere all along! i mean, it gets so boring looking at one silver palm after another. and the purple clie is a bit too femenine for some of us, leaving us only w/ silver there. i am really into the blue one - now all i need is someone to buy my current palm!

just keep an open mind folks, and let everyone hold an opinion. give people a chance, dont just flame them for how they think

This is Palm's marketing "genius" behind this stuff:

I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 4:53:56 PM #
RE: This is Palm's marketing
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 6:52:40 PM #
darkly humorous, ironic, poignant.

RE: This is Palm's marketing
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 12:27:42 AM #
Just goes to show that the American (Thunderbird) Graduate School of International Management, Punjab University and the University of Cambridge don't mean sh*t when it comes to the real world.

But, hey, the colors would have been nice if they were included from the first launch...

Hmm wonder they got the colors from...?

I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 5:26:03 PM #
It just hit me that Handspring's Visor Neo has the exact same colors, sans the 'patriotic' twist. Just an observation...

RE: Hmm wonder they got the colors from...?
kevdo @ 11/18/2001 10:15:13 PM #
Actually, the more appropriate comparison would be to the Visor Edge, which is also available in Red and Blue (more muted versions of those two colors, however).

The difference (talking about the colored Neos) is that Palm's are on a good handheld with a great form factor!


I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 7:08:08 PM #
Where can I get a "Patriot" Blue m505 made in Hungary? :)

RE: So...
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/18/2001 9:39:29 PM #

everybody's colors

mj6798 @ 11/19/2001 6:19:31 AM #
I'm sorry, but why exactly are the French or British national colors considered "patriotic" in the US? And even if the m50x came with a US flag emblazoned across it, what exactly does buying an expensive electronic gadget have to do with doing anything for the welfare of Americans or for justice in the world?

RE: everybody's colors
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 7:45:27 PM #
Well, you'll have to ask our Punjabi friend, Satjiv.

Bio here:

He's the failed CrApple marketing exec whose best idea was the PIPPIN.

Why is it that every failed CrApple exec ends up at Palm? It must be a finishing school.

Special Edition for whom?

I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 8:16:05 AM #
Sony just announced two new models(japanese version), colored T600C(138g) and mono T400(122g).
In Constrast, Palm Inc. doesn't have any announcement since m505. We just heard that SD is so superior to MS, don't invest too much on sony's PDA.......
But, Plam give the loyal customers a "special edition" of 505 but not a more up-to-date model.
How about special edition of Palm pilot, palm III, Palm V, and VII?

RE: Special Edition for whom?
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 8:20:34 PM #
"Palm Inc. doesn't have any announcement since m505"

You forgot the m125.

Freedom of Choice

PalmPowered @ 11/19/2001 8:41:00 AM #
I think it's great that in a country where freedom of choice exists that Palm is making choices available by offering these colors. Whether you tend to think about them as "Patriotic" or just some new colors to add some variety to the offerings is your "choice" to make. Some people are going to dog Palm no matter what they do. If Palm offered a mail in coupon good for a free m505 handheld, some people would complain about having to pay the the cost of the stamp to mail it in. But again, that is their choice just as it is our choice to complain about the complainers. As for me, I have a new WorkPad c505 on order. That was my choice because I personally like the black case over all the others. Henry Ford liked black too but he made it clear that the consumer had no choice in the matter when he said you could have his car in "any color you want so long as it's black". Isn't it nice to live in a country where you have the freedom to choose!

Happy Thanksgiving!

Power Up!

are you kidding me !

I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 4:50:46 PM #
Come on Palm... Do you STILL think that we accept this as "new" from you. Havent you learned ? I guess you never will. How aobut really releasing a truely *new* product instead of changing the color cuz you have no other ideas on what to do.. Seeing things like this just reinforces in my mind why it was a good idea to switch from m505 to iPAQ.

RE: are you kidding me !
weiwentg @ 11/19/2001 4:58:24 PM #
Please stop flooding. And get a nick registered.

RE: are you kidding me !
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/19/2001 7:47:28 PM #
Yoh, Wei Wen Poon Tang: Shut duh heck up.


Carl is looking for a job with Apple

I.M. Anonymous @ 11/20/2001 12:03:12 PM #
Can't you tell? More glitter than innovation. Carl wants a job with Apple. What do you think Steve?

Palm's "un"American colors

mikecane @ 11/21/2001 10:58:57 AM #
Go check the link. They are now simply called Red and Blue.

Everyone who complained here had an impact, I guess.

OK, so I was wrong. That can happen (contrary to those who think I think I am always right!).

RE: Palm's
I.M. Anonymous @ 11/21/2001 1:05:18 PM #
I've always read the negative comments about Palm and just dismissed them as hyperbole. This "little" act of undecisiveness by Palm makes me think that maybe Palm IS a company without competent leadership, like many posters allude to. How in the h-ll can you screw up with a name for a color? Hell, Sony got much more grief with the name CLIE and they stuck with it. Palm - make a decision and stick to it! What next, an apology to folks for using the the terms?

P.S. A little OT, but I saw an article today about the little magnetic flags people are buy and putting on their cars. It seems the flags are screwing up the paint jobs!



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