Comments on: Rumor: T615C in Best Buy's System

According to two different sources, the Sony T615C appears in Best Buy's inventory system. Sony's suggested retail price is $415. Best Buy doesn't expect to have any in stock until Sunday, January 27, though one of the sources could only say "late January" and that it would cost "approximately $400". He was able to confirm that it would be called the T615C, though it's apparently in Best Buy's system as the "T-615".
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Woo Hoo!!

Beavis @ 12/27/2001 9:04:04 AM #
This should hold me over until OS-5 comes out. I hope it comes in black as was rumoured.

Palm, if you have any new devices up your sleeve, now is the time to let us know, before we purchase the T615C.

Announcing a New Palm
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 9:13:49 AM #
OK, your post has convinced us to announce our new model, the m615 which will be available for preorder starting January 29 for delivery on or after the end of Q1 2002.

The specs of the m615 will be exactly like the T615C except it will have one other feature that we can't specify at this time. However, we CAN say that it is the other thing that you really want on your PDA.

Palm, Inc.

RE: Woo Hoo!!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 9:15:02 AM #
Only can respond to this in the voice of Dr Evil:

RRRIIIIGGGHHHHHTTT....

RE: Woo Hoo!!
Beavis @ 12/27/2001 9:40:28 AM #
Thank you Palm for that wonderful announcement.

I can't wait to pre-order with you again, so I can see all of the retail stores getting delivery before I do.

My credit card is out with eager anticipation.

So is this that super skinny one with the speaker?

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 9:39:00 AM #
Is this the color version of thier super slim one they just released?

RE: So is this that super skinny one with the speaker?
Beavis @ 12/27/2001 9:44:03 AM #
Yes, this should be the color version of the T415

RE: So is this that super skinny one with the speaker?
Ed @ 12/27/2001 9:51:16 AM #
While it has much in common with the T415, remember that the T600C is 25% thicker than the monochrome version, being .49 inches thick rather than .39. It is also .4 ounces heavier. Not slamming the T600C, just making sure people realize what they are getting. Even Sony couldn't cram a color screen into as small a casing as the T415 has.

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RE: So is this that super skinny one with the speaker?
mikeliu @ 12/27/2001 9:52:58 AM #
I've seen the Japanese version, and it's not quite so stunningly skinny and small as the B&W version. Still quite skinny and small, but not stunningly so.

RE: So is this that super skinny one with the speaker?
Beavis @ 12/27/2001 10:13:14 AM #
Are we not just assuming at this point in time that the T615C has the same specs as the T600C?

At .49 Inches, it is ever so slightly thinner than the Palm m505, which I currently have. Source-www.palm.com

With twice the memory and four times the number of pixels, I could live with it.

RE: So is this that super skinny one with the speaker?
mikecane @ 12/27/2001 3:09:49 PM #
Someone on the Writing on Your Palm maillist has reported that on his Japanese T600C, Thin Font Fix -- neither the Japanese nor English versions -- will *not* run. I hope Hacker Dude-san will correct this.

RE: So is this that super skinny one with the speaker?
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 5:45:54 PM #
Hacker Dude San actually does have "thin font fix" for t600.

He actually has 3 different versions.
2 of them are for japanese Clies. to fix japanese writing styles.. kanji and the other one or something like that.

Then When i told about this to my group (nxt's clie club) someone suggested it to him and 1 day later, he released Thin Font Fix (this is the english version for english clies, running this on a japanese clie will not work).

T715C vs. N760C

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 9:54:03 AM #
Can someone explain the difference?

Does this new T615 also have MP3 playback and headphones?

Seems like the N760 will still become the unit to buy...

RE: T615C vs. N760C
Ed @ 12/27/2001 9:58:49 AM #
The T615C has no MP3 playback abilities. If that's important to you, the N760C is indeed the way to go. As the article says, the T615C has more in common with the N610C, which is apparently being discontinued in favor of the T615C.

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RE: T715C vs. N760C
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 11:00:43 AM #
The MP3 player attachment is available for the T415. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work on the T615. It retails for about $130, comes with headphones and the remote. The device connects to the bottom of the handheld.

RE: T715C vs. N760C
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 11:14:02 AM #
Ed

The T615 CAN play MP3s:

http://www.sony.co.jp/sd/products/Consumer/PEG/CLIEGEAR/index.html

Please ensure that you provide accurate information for readers (e.g. the CLIE does have an optional MP3 add-on).

Thanks

RE: T615C vs. N760C
Ed @ 12/27/2001 11:35:55 AM #
> The T615 CAN play MP3s

By your logic, almost all Palm OS handhelds can play MP3s, as there is an audio add-on available for most of them, from the Visor to the m100. Let's not confuse people and make them think that their T615C will play MP3s right out of the box, which it won't. A $130 adapter is required.

Though you do have a point, perhaps my comment was a bit too flat. Let's say, the T615C has no "built-in" MP3 playback abilities.

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RE: T715C vs. N760C
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 2:23:01 PM #
I'll trade my N760C, which is quite new (obviously, since it's a pretty new model) for a T715, as I don't use the MP3 features but would really like the remote-control features.


RE: T615C vs. N760C
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 2:25:14 PM #
Oops, it's the T615C that I'll trade my N760 for. If there's interest, I'll post my e-mail address (etc.). I live in Massachusetts, USA.


RE: T715C vs. N760C
polymath @ 12/27/2001 8:09:36 PM #
Well, T715C might be just around the corner.

RE: T715C vs. N760C
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/29/2001 7:35:14 PM #
T715C coming in February. Waiting only for the Motorola Dragonball 66MZ. Hope it has 320 by 400 with 80 pixels set aside for soft grafitti, or in my dreams soft FITALY.
I also see a larger battery, dual MS slots (one half, one full), and a microphone. MP3 Atrac built in. $500 or maybe far less. 16 meg or MUCH MORE?

RE: T715C vs. N760C
I.M. Anonymous @ 1/9/2002 4:15:41 PM #
So I understand battery life is an issue and T615C has remote function on it (enhanced IR) but can anyone can tell me what other diff ther are between T615C and N760C. Which should I buy. Do they both vibrate? Thanks for your help!

Battery Sucks

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 10:39:42 AM #
Just to let everyone know, Some people at nXt's Clie Club has the T600C and ran the Battery Benchmark 2 and well the battery sucks.

Frontlight off, full power test gets about 6 hours and 50 minutes.

Frontlight on, lowest brightness, full power test gets about 4 hours and 45 minutes.

Frontlight On, Highest Brightness, Full Power test gets about 2 hours 33 minutes!

RE: Battery Sucks
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 11:56:56 AM #
Just for comparison: how does the N610C or N760C perform on this battery test?

RE: Battery Sucks
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 12:05:40 PM #
Well with the same program, (i personally didn't perform one myself, but another guy) with an n700c, with normal test, and frontlight on minimum, got 13 hours 18 minutes.

So, maybe with full power test and frontlight at maximum, you can deduct maybe 2 hours... so probably around 11 hours.

RE: Battery Sucks
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 12:58:51 PM #
The T600 series has different screen lighting and a different battery than that of the N6**C and N7**C series. There are tradoffs for bsmaller size.

I will be sticking with my N760C.

RE: Battery Sucks
Altema @ 12/27/2001 2:40:53 PM #
Is Battery Benchmark 2 available for download? If so, where? I tried a few general searches and could not find it. Battery Log induces a delay every 60 seconds, which is not a problem unless you are gaming or watching video.

RE: Battery Sucks
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 3:16:39 PM #
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CLIE_Users_Group/files/miscellaneous%20programs/BatteryBench%202.zip

RE: Battery Sucks
Altema @ 12/27/2001 3:49:19 PM #
Thanks!

RE: Battery Sucks - m505 Problems
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 4:13:09 PM #
Speaking of Battery sucking, this morning my SECOND m505 battery suddenly was out of a charge. I tried to charge it up and it would not hold a charge anymore! I could watch it go from 1/2 full to empty in about 1 min with backlight on. The first m505 I bought this happened 6 months after purchase, the second unit it happened about 1.5 months. IS ANYONE ELSE HAVING THIS PROBLEM??? I'M ON #3!!!!! THANKS!

RE: Battery Sucks
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 4:17:22 PM #
Yup. I just did. Last week the same thing happend to me with my m505. I was very surprised. Never happend before. So I did a pin rest and that did nothing. Disabled all hacks and pin rest; nothing. So then I did a warm reset. Same thing. Then I hit reset once, and stupidly hit reset about 3 seconds after that, sending it into a rest loop, which then of course required a hard reset. So, although my dumb Palm had been nuked, the power resumed it's normal power consumption not falling 1% every second like before.

Make sure you have BackUp Buddy installed or something.

I though mine was just a fluke thing, but who knows. I've never seen anything on it before.

But, good luck. Back everything up.

Just scanning the posts, waiting to hear when and where the first T615C's hit the shelves so I can go see about upgrading!

RE: Battery Sucks
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/28/2001 8:40:02 AM #
I read a post at another site that mentioned a similar problem with another handheld. The solution was to do a warm rest while the unit was charging in the cradle. Worth a try.

RE: Battery Sucks
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/28/2001 9:03:10 AM #
I tried the warm, soft, hard, cradle, resets - all to no avail. THANKS ANYWAY AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Lousy buttons

Scott @ 12/27/2001 11:01:42 AM #
How can they keep pumping out handhelds that have such lousy buttons. These devices seem to be aimed at being the best gaming Palm handhelds out there due to their increased resolution, fast processors (for a Palm), and improved sound, yet the gaming advantages fall apart due to the poor design of the buttons.

Once again I'll insert here that, IMO, the best gaming Palm OS device out there is the Visor Prism. The screen is gorgeous, albeit low-res, and the standard buttons have great tactile feedback. Not only that, but you can buy snap-on gaming pads for it. Of course, I don't really play many games on these things, so I don't know why I'm bothering to post about this.

Scott

RE: Lousy buttons
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 11:19:44 AM #
Scott,

I disagree; the M505 had the best, most usable buttons of any Palm Device I've owned...I've owned a Palm IIIc, a Visor Prism, ab N760, and an M505.

The problems with the Visor was the cheap ass construction...the silver paint from the buttons kept rubbing off onto my fingers and the plastic case was a bit wobbly.

RE: Lousy buttons
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 1:02:59 PM #
If I want gaming, I will buy a game boy. Why would I spend $400.00 for a game boy? Someone, tell me?

This is a P-D-A.

RE: Lousy buttons
Altema @ 12/27/2001 2:48:10 PM #
I don't think anyone in their right mind would pay $400 for a game boy. I had trouble convincing my wife that I needed to pay that much for a PDA. BUT having a PDA that does a few good games is better than hauling around two devices. Sneaking a couple rounds of LodeRunner during a drawn-out meeting is less noticible than whipping out a game boy in front of everyone. Plus, you can't really do relational database management on a game boy without cartridge swapping! :)

Seriously, out of all the palms I've used (IIIe, IIIxe, Visor Deluxe, Vx, IIIc, M105, M500, M505), I like the solidness and response of the M5xx buttons best so far. Have not tried games on the Prism, so I can't tell if the controls are the same as the Deluxe. I liked games on the screen of the IIIc (similar to the Prism), but the "carbon contact in a rubber boot" type of button was nothing like having a real brass and steel switch. I also like how you can rock your left thumb across the two left buttons, and rock your right thumb between the up and down buttons.

In this position, you can still press the memo or to-do buttons with the lower part of the thumb, but it's difficult, especially with games that really cry out for a direction pad like Defender (which I STILL don't have the hang of yet...)

Speaking of direction pads, I do feel sorry for those who bought some models of PPC devices with the really sweet control pads... only to find out that they could not press more than one button at a time. This was fixed in the newest models, but imagine shelling out all that money and finding out you can't move and fire at the same time!

RE: Lousy buttons
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/28/2001 2:10:54 PM #
Why not with the new BeOS also license Nintendo Gameboy technology and put a game slot in the top. Of course you would have to add a gamepad to the bottom, but it could be done, then you wouldn't need fames

Sony is kickin'!

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 12:32:15 PM #
It's amazing to see what Sony can come up with on the Dragonball cpu. I bet Sony is just dying for OS 5 to come out so they can make Palm handhelds with 64 megs of ram and hundreds of mhz of ARM power. Compaq has most to lose here
AriB

RE: Sony is kickin'!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/28/2001 2:26:31 PM #
Sony is kind of late dude, lets see, the Ipaq has been out for, 2 years now. Compaq already got the sales out of this machine. now it is for pure fun! palm's and ppc's dont compare (except in price, which PPC's win anyways...)

RE: Sony is kickin'!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/28/2001 3:48:26 PM #
There! I have to say it again to read this fine sites name. PALMinfocenter. This is not some wussy WinCe in pain site. This is Palm, it is different from the rest like the rest are from Palm. Palm is simple, life does not need to be complicated by adding Windows in your hand. Windows the best at home or work, but not in your hand! Bill Gates gets enough money as it is! Don't make me go after you WinCe advocates again!

Sony GOT kicked
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/29/2001 12:07:35 AM #
how the hell do you get MICROSOFT, or WINDOWS, from the name IPAQ?! I am talking about RAW power here, not OS. jeesh! and, being an ex PALM user, I think I am still allowed to read up and post information on a PALM site, as you so nicely put it. and, just in case you are wondering, Microsoft got RID of the name Windows CE. So, you can just call it PocketPC from now on. Thanks!

RE: Sony is kickin'!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/29/2001 7:50:24 PM #
Yeah they need all that processing power to run that machine because Win Ce for Pocket Pc is so complicated.
If and when Sony breaks out with the ARM processor on its clie it will run faster than any of your WinCE for PocketPc junkers.

RE: Sony is kickin'!
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/29/2001 8:02:46 PM #
Ps- Ipaqs operating system uses Windows duh, but you are too impatient to realize such realities!

If sony makes a Treo clone, would that not just kill?!?

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 12:56:42 PM #
Wow. i really like the functionality of the Treo. Now, if sony melded the function of the 615c with the communications capacity of the Treo....well, that would probably be the killer machine to beat. I am sure they must be working on one....anyone know any thing about one? So hard to decide when to upgrade........

RE: If sony makes a Treo clone, would that not just kill?!?
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 10:15:58 PM #
Yes, but the Treo is going to be too cool to not buy the day its available - even though I'll have to replace my cell number of many years, and even though the screen resolution is essentially obsolete. The Treo will retire my IIIxe and my Nokia 8260.

See T600 review with pics

mikecane @ 12/27/2001 3:13:52 PM #
http://www.spug.org/reviews/rt600.htm

Palm engineers vindicated

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 4:39:56 PM #
I just read a very good review of the new T600-series posted earlier:
http://www.spug.org/reviews/rt600.htm

*Let's apolgize to the Palm engineers*

According to this review, the colors on the T600 are "washed out" compared to the N600 series. The review also mentions that the reds are not truly red, but more of a reddish brown.

HA! That is just how I would describe the 505's display. I suspect that current technology is not able to deliver vibrant color with a display thin enough to fit in a .49" case (505 = .5")

The review also states that the battery life for the T600 series is closer to the iPaq than the N600 series. :eek: The shorter battery life is no doubt due to the the brighter sidelighting pulling on a battery closer to 505 size.

IMO, this shows that the engineers at Palm did just as good a job designing the 505 as the engineers at Sony did with the T600 series. So let's ease off those guys.

*Let's tar and feather the Palm market researchers*

This review also rekindles some of early frustration with the 505. WHY not give it a bright sidelight, and let the user choose between brightness and battery life? The T600 series has a real speaker. Would it kill Palm to start using one?

So, the engineering talent these two companies is about equal. The difference is that the marketers and managers at Sony are more willing to take risks with their designs.

RE: Palm engineers vindicated
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 4:55:42 PM #
Idiot!

RE: Palm engineers vindicated
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 5:40:44 PM #
> So, the engineering talent these two companies is
> about equal. The difference is that the marketers
> and managers at Sony are more willing to take risks
> with their designs

Sony has significantly greater engineering and manufacturing resources than Palm. In fact, Palm, Compaq, and other PDA makers actually obtain their color screens from Sony.

Please research your statements in the future before posting comments like this.


RE: Palm engineers vindicated
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 6:59:19 PM #
The result is the same. Thin display. Washed out colors. More sidelights. Shorter battery life. The Palm bashing can stop now.

RE: Palm engineers vindicated
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 7:02:48 PM #
>>Please research your statements in the future before posting comments like this.

Hmm... I'm going to do research to confirm speculatory discussion on a rumor.... neat trick!

RE: Palm engineers vindicated
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 7:12:46 PM #
Idiots!

RE: Palm engineers vindicated
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 7:25:55 PM #
Clever theory, but you did not mention that the new CLIE has 320x320 resolution. Another point for Sony.

RE: Palm engineers vindicated
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 7:59:36 PM #
Twice the pixels but half the battery life. Not a very good trade off.

RE: Palm engineers vindicated
Smaug @ 12/27/2001 8:40:44 PM #
To be correct, 4x the pixels

RE: Palm engineers vindicated
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/28/2001 2:41:52 PM #
The T415's screen is downright awful. I'm holding out judgement on the T615's screen until I can actually see one, but the battery life is already a bad sign. I played with the T415's contrast and backlight and even in the best case settings it was practially useless. Anything worse than the 610/710's borderline screen would be just as useless, so I'm not very optimistic. Do the people developing these work in a cave all day?

RE: Palm engineers vindicated
Altema @ 12/28/2001 8:23:04 PM #
>According to this review, the colors on the T600 are "washed out" compared to the N600 series. The review also mentions that the reds are not truly red, but more of a reddish brown.

>HA! That is just how I would describe the 505's display.

Actually, the reds and blues on the 505 are quite a bit better than those in the screen shots, with the greens being on the weaker side. Of course, it's hard to tell since pda's are difficult to photograph. I'd have to compare them in person to make a fair judgement. I do know that on the several 505's I've been through, only one had a problem with the red not being very accurate, and another had too much red. Still, I would not put a picture of a stop sign on my Palm and expect a car to stop (well, maybe AFTER they hit me!), but the red is still pretty red on my current device.

Either way you look at it, the T600 screen is light years better than the T415's horrible screen. Does anyone know if the T600 screen is slow like the T415?

I would be more concerned about the short battery life. One of my Palms had similar battery life, and Palm took it back as defective.

RE: Palm engineers vindicated
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/31/2001 10:31:41 PM #
I'd love to see some side-by-side comparison shots of the M505 and T600 like the T600 and N760 shots on the spug review.

Best buy and the t600

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 9:02:11 PM #
Just to let you know that those instock dates in the best buy system are usally wrong and units come out before then...also every handheld that sony has released has come out in BEst buy bofore everyone else even the sony website...I am going to be looking for this

RE: Best buy and the t600
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 9:25:42 PM #
Let me know if you see any.

RE: Best buy and the t600
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/27/2001 11:48:10 PM #
The T415 was in store (locally) at Best Buy about 4 days after release in the US, so it takes a few days, however, PPC devices show up months later, go figure. The HP 560 series is still not available at the local Best Buy.

Oh, and yes the in stock dates are usually not the release dates, however, the in stock dates will always occur after the unit is announced (obviously).

RE: Best buy and the t600
Karshikinpa @ 12/28/2001 2:06:20 AM #
I would have to disagree with you that Best Buy has all new CLIE's first. I posted about the N710C ni CompUSA's stock before that, and found it on Sony's website.

Anyways... Just posting to let you guys know that SKU# 289707 for CompUSA is the new Sony CLIE S360. There is nothing on our website yet, but the price is going to be $199.99. Also, the S320 is not yet showing as discontinued, but we have had limited quantity available for a couple of weeks now. There is no ETA on it yet.

RE: Best buy and the t600
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/28/2001 10:29:07 AM #
A new Sony S-series? Anyone else heard about this? Makes sense though - probably just an OS update(?). I didn't believe Sony would just totally abandon the low-end market and the T415 is still a little too expense to be called low-end.

RE: Best buy and the t600
randomguy1900 @ 12/29/2001 8:10:42 AM #
stick by it Ecery SOny that has been released has been in my store before they were on the web site and before the relse date that sony sets

Rob

Why get excited over nothing??

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/28/2001 2:34:22 PM #
Having BEEN a diehard Palm user I think it is amusing that ANY new Palm handheld draws any excitement. WOO HOO a cool screen, BUT NOTHING to impfan but improve a dated OS. I am not a MS fan,but at least they are on the ball as far as improving their OS. Lets see OS 4, Ummm vibrate and umm NOTHING. Gimme a break! My prediction is that there will be a crapload of Palm discounts coming soon. Gee I wonder how many t415's are sitting on the shelves??? I am sure that the 615 will sell but for $400?? Palms current technology is worth 99-299 and no more IMHO. I am sure all the PALM diehards will flame my post, but the fact is the Palm lacking BIGTIME in their OS.

RE: Why get excited over nothing??
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/28/2001 3:39:09 PM #
Who are you to say any of that. I think you need to read this fine sites name. PALMinfocenter. This is not some WinCE site it is palm what are you doing here if your supporting the WinCE in pain systems. They are both completely different things!(Palm and WinCE)

RE: Why get excited over nothing??
Altema @ 12/28/2001 8:53:38 PM #
>Lets see OS 4, Ummm vibrate and umm NOTHING.

There is obviously nothing exciting at the wince site or you would not be here.

Perhaps you should take up a hobby like reading, something which you apparently have not done for OS4. Were you were too anxious to do any research while waiting for the latest bug fix from microsoft? I hear that you can actually press TWO buttons now...

RE: Why get excited over nothing??
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/29/2001 7:56:43 PM #
I dont have to read to much about it since i have first hand experience with OS4. I think if you want to tango with opinions sire, you need to READ yourself some and get some facts posted up here to prove your points of uneducated opinions!

RE: Why get excited over nothing??
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/29/2001 8:10:15 PM #
Ps- Give some reasons why WinCe machines are any better than Palm?

RE: Why get excited over nothing??
I.M. Anonymous @ 12/30/2001 8:32:22 PM #
I like them both. I have given up on PPC 2002 for datebook and to do list purposes, and am returning to Palm for these things. But I can't part with my Jornada 567 for its sub-notebook computer uses like word-processing, web access, e-mail, note-taking (I am much better at the new Transcriber than Palm graffiti), etc. In short, my Palm will go wherever I go (and I will have Bubble Shooter again). My PPC and Stowaway will go in my backpack when I go to school (college) and on trips.



Sony kicks ass!

SaxonMan @ 12/29/2001 2:46:55 AM #
From my point of view ( i am a k-12 student ) it's pretty sad to see the technical development in the last months/years.
It seems to me that Sony is pushing for its Clie Handhelds... with success... really nice machines, maybe the best available if u wanna get a handheld.
I consider me for the future user. i just got the stowaway keyboard for christmas ( what an awesome tool! ).... but it seems to me that i have to throw away my Visor Platin (memplug) in some months. i put so much money and love in my palm and it really hurts me when i see handspring going down...
i can imagine that very many user are pissed off cuz the incompatiblities. sony is comin out with great devices... and basicl we can throw away our old staff. it really hurts me.... but i think i am just on of those teenagers who dont understand buiz.

Peg-N610CS Clie on CompUSA website

I.M. Anonymous @ 12/29/2001 7:03:06 PM #
Can anyone tell me what is difference between Peg-Clie N610CS and Clie N610C??? CompUSA list the Clie N610CS has CompactFlash Card slot. Any comments?? Thanks. Could this be T615 everyone is talking about??? The link for this site is http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=289379. BTW, ship date is 2-4 weeks.

RE: Peg-N610CS Clie on CompUSA website
Ed @ 12/29/2001 7:25:01 PM #
There are actually two forms of the N610C but there's hardly any difference between them. One had a silver housing and one had a purple. The S on the end of the name just means that this is a "satin silver" model.

I think the Compact Flash thing is just a mistake. Funny, though.

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www.sonystyle.com

I.M. Anonymous @ 1/29/2002 10:45:39 PM #
I bought a clie 615c on Jan 20, it was shipped on the 22, and I recieved it on Fri Jan 25. it has been in sonystyle's website for a while, although when i ordered mine the blue was sold out. I read that a black one was rumored to be realeased but sonystyle did not advertise anyhting but an aluminum and a blue model. All of the technical specs are on the website, so anyone interested can find out whatever they are looking for there.

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